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"Bill"

19/08/2009 10:38 PM

Went back to auction again...


Went to the auction again today:

Acquired a Delta 12.5" Planer (Model 22-560) with 3 extra sets of blades, a
"dust chute", and an instruction manual for $200. Looks extremely similiar
to the new model (#TP305); does it take the same blades? It seems to be in
extremely good condition, probably seldom used, but in retrospect it doesn't
appear that I got a bargain on it. Next time I should maybe take a tool
catalog with me... : ) In this case, I think I got confused with the
price of jointers... Could have got one of those, a Jet, for $150, but
moving it would have been an issue--and Lew said I didn't need one yet.

Also got a #5, 14" Bailey plane (with 3 patented dates listed, the last was
1910) for $30. It will complement the Bailey #4 (9") one I picked up
last week. If you followed the recent thread I started on building a
workbench top, I'm curious how effective will these planes be in smoothing
the top---compared to taking it to someone with a drum sander (as was
suggested).

I was an "aggressive bidder" on both of these items. I've got to learn to
cool it, a little. :) By the way, it was really good to hear the sound
of the planer when I turned it on at home (after reading the manual,
honest). The sound of silence was a distinct possibility--I like to think I
just took it for granted that the other bidder tested it!

Regards,
Bill


This topic has 12 replies

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Puckdropper

in reply to "Bill" on 19/08/2009 10:38 PM

22/08/2009 6:09 AM

[email protected] (Edward A. Falk) wrote in news:h6nl8l$htq$1
@blue.rahul.net:

> I was looking at planers the other day. Salesdroid told me
> that DeWalt was notorious for poor quality control, and that
> I should get Ryobi instead. Was he full of it? I always
> thought of DeWalt as quality stuff.
>

Don't go by brand name--go by reviews. I was looking at planers several
months ago and the Dewalt DW735 was getting the best reviews of the
portable planers.

Sometimes you can pick up a good tool from a junk manufacturer. (Other
times, you pick up a junk tool from a good manufacturer.)

Puckdropper
--
"The potential difference between the top and bottom of a tree is the
reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on
rec.woodworking

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

RS

"Roger Shoaf"

in reply to "Bill" on 19/08/2009 10:38 PM

21/08/2009 12:33 PM


"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Went to the auction again today:
>
> Acquired a Delta 12.5" Planer (Model 22-560) with 3 extra sets of blades,
a
> "dust chute", and an instruction manual for $200.


Could have got one of those, a Jet, for $150, but
> moving it would have been an issue--and Lew said I didn't need one yet.
>

It would seem to me that while you did not steal the planer, you certainly
did not get hosed.

You got the Delta for the same price as the Jet, assuming that the 3 extra
sets of blades are worth the $50.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

GS

Gordon Shumway

in reply to "Bill" on 19/08/2009 10:38 PM

22/08/2009 12:21 AM

On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:30:45 +0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Edward
A. Falk) wrote:

>I was looking at planers the other day. Salesdroid told me
>that DeWalt was notorious for poor quality control, and that
>I should get Ryobi instead. Was he full of it? I always
>thought of DeWalt as quality stuff.

Ryobi is probably the lowest quality of just about any national brand.
Roughly the same as Black & Darker. In my opinion I wouldn't rank
Dewalt much higher. Of the three brands you mentioned Makita is head
and shoulders above the other two. I own several Makita tools and
have never regretted getting them.

Just my $0.02

Gordon Shumway

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "Bill" on 19/08/2009 10:38 PM

22/08/2009 11:20 AM

On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:59:07 +0000, Lew Hodgett wrote:


> "Edward A. Falk" wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
>>I was looking at planers the other day. Salesdroid told me
>> that DeWalt was notorious for poor quality control, and that I should
>> get Ryobi instead.
> -------------------------------------------------- 20 years ago I had an
> AP-10.
>
> Did it's job until somebody needed it more than me.
>
> That said, the Ryobi of 20 years ago, is not the Ryobi of today.
>
> Bought a DeWalt 733 or 734 about 10 years ago.

I plan on buying a DeWalt - whenever my Ryobi AP-10 finally dies :-).

But you're right. DeWalt is a much better choice today.

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

l

in reply to "Bill" on 19/08/2009 10:38 PM

22/08/2009 11:14 AM

On Aug 19, 9:38=A0pm, "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Went to the auction again today:
>
> Acquired a Delta 12.5" Planer (Model 22-560) with 3 extra sets of blades,=
a
> "dust chute", and an instruction manual for $200. =A0Looks extremely simi=
liar
> to the new model (#TP305); does it take the same blades? It seems to be i=
n
> extremely good condition, probably seldom used, but in retrospect it does=
n't
> appear that I got a bargain on it. =A0Next time I should maybe take a too=
l
> catalog with me... : ) =A0 =A0 In this case, I think I got confused with =
the
> price of jointers... =A0 Could have got one of those, a Jet, for $150, bu=
t
> moving it would have been an issue--and Lew said I didn't need one yet.
>
> Also got a #5, 14" Bailey plane (with 3 patented dates listed, the last w=
as
> 1910) for $30. =A0 =A0 It will complement the Bailey #4 (9") one I picked=
up
> last week. If you followed the recent thread I started on building a
> workbench top, I'm curious how effective will these planes be in smoothin=
g
> the top---compared to taking it to someone with a drum sander (as was
> suggested).
>
> I was an "aggressive bidder" on both of these items. =A0I've got to learn=
to
> cool it, a little. =A0:) =A0 =A0 By the way, it was really good to hear t=
he sound
> of the planer when I turned it on at home (after reading the manual,
> honest). =A0The sound of silence was a distinct possibility--I like to th=
ink I
> just took it for granted that the other bidder tested it!
>
> Regards,
> Bill

I have to agree with Larry. I bought an AP10 (the first portable
planer) a number of years ago. I hae sharpened the blades a couple of
times, and it has worked like a dream. I do have to watch it for
snipe, but that is true of most small planers. I'm sorry to hear that
Ryobi has gone to the dogs in recent years, but I do stand by the
AP10.

Len

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Bill" on 19/08/2009 10:38 PM

22/08/2009 3:59 AM


"Edward A. Falk" wrote:
--------------------------------------------------
>I was looking at planers the other day. Salesdroid told me
> that DeWalt was notorious for poor quality control, and that
> I should get Ryobi instead.
--------------------------------------------------
20 years ago I had an AP-10.

Did it's job until somebody needed it more than me.

That said, the Ryobi of 20 years ago, is not the Ryobi of today.

Bought a DeWalt 733 or 734 about 10 years ago.

Had the blades sharpened once or twice.

DeWalt Tech Service resolved a small problem on the phone long past
warranty.

It doesn't owe me anything.

Have had an 18VDC DeWalt drill and panel saw kit for over 10 years
until it got legs.

Drill didn't owe me anything either.

Based on my experience with DeWalt products, they would deserve prime
consideration if I were looking.

YMMV

Lew



BB

"Bill"

in reply to "Bill" on 19/08/2009 10:38 PM

21/08/2009 7:27 PM


>
> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Went to the auction again today:
>>
> Acquired a Delta 12.5" Planer (Model 22-560) with 3 extra sets of blades,
> a "dust chute", and an instruction manual for $200.




"Roger Shoaf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It would seem to me that while you did not steal the planer, you certainly
> did not get hosed.
>
> ... assuming that the 3 extra sets of blades are worth the $50.
>
> --
>
> Roger Shoaf

Thank you for saying I did not get hosed on the deal.
Even though I am not ready to use it for anything at the moment,
I think it's a tool that will help teach me something--I'll be setting it
up, thinking
about a stand and outfeed table, and thinking about applications. I'll be
getting some
hearing protection too!

The auction is every Wednesday and I usually have that day off, so I'm sure
my
wife is happy about that. I "broke the news" that I thought I was going to
need
12 pipe clamps tonight at dinner tonight (to complete a workbench top--other
thread).

Here's a twisted way of looking at things: if the Delta planer hadn't been
at the
auction, I woudn't have one. But now, I am a happy owner of one so how
do you put a value on that? :)

To those who have a workbench planer, do you prefer using it on a stand
(about $60)?
It seems, at least, a nice way to get it off of the floor.

Bill

fE

[email protected] (Edward A. Falk)

in reply to "Bill" on 19/08/2009 10:38 PM

22/08/2009 2:30 AM

I was looking at planers the other day. Salesdroid told me
that DeWalt was notorious for poor quality control, and that
I should get Ryobi instead. Was he full of it? I always
thought of DeWalt as quality stuff.

--
-Ed Falk, [email protected]
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/

Pu

"PDQ"

in reply to "Bill" on 19/08/2009 10:38 PM

22/08/2009 12:39 PM

If I recall correctly, DeWalt always was a quality product.
After it was bought by B&D in an effort to restore lost quality I am not =
so sure.

Best bet is to read spec sheets carefully and examine pros and cons of =
each item carefully.
I have seen cases where DeWalt was a best buy and others where Makita =
was.

That said, I have an old belt sander, nigh onto 50 years, by B&D with =
which I will never part.
I also have picks from both DeWalt and Makita I swear by.

Notice, nothing by Ryobi.

P D Q

"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message =
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> [email protected] (Edward A. Falk) wrote in news:h6nl8l$htq$1
> @blue.rahul.net:
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> > I was looking at planers the other day. Salesdroid told me
> > that DeWalt was notorious for poor quality control, and that
> > I should get Ryobi instead. Was he full of it? I always
> > thought of DeWalt as quality stuff.
> >=20
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> Don't go by brand name--go by reviews. I was looking at planers =
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> months ago and the Dewalt DW735 was getting the best reviews of the=20
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> Sometimes you can pick up a good tool from a junk manufacturer. =
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> Puckdropper
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> "The potential difference between the top and bottom of a tree is the=20
> reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on=20
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[email protected] (Edward A. Falk)

in reply to "Bill" on 19/08/2009 10:38 PM

23/08/2009 10:46 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I agree about Ryobi is to be avoided.

That's what I thought. I have a Delta drill press and a Ryobi in my
shop right now (the Ryobi is a loaner). They're nearly identical models,
but the quality difference when I run them is very apparent.

How about Makita?

--
-Ed Falk, [email protected]
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Bill" on 19/08/2009 10:38 PM

21/08/2009 10:54 PM

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:48:35 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Edward A. Falk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>I was looking at planers the other day. Salesdroid told me
>> that DeWalt was notorious for poor quality control, and that
>> I should get Ryobi instead. Was he full of it? I always
>> thought of DeWalt as quality stuff.
>>
>> --
>> -Ed Falk, [email protected]
>> http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
>
>I'd not buy a Ryobi anything. Once was enough.
>


I agree about Ryobi is to be avoided.

EP

"Ed Pawlowski"

in reply to "Bill" on 19/08/2009 10:38 PM

21/08/2009 10:48 PM


"Edward A. Falk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I was looking at planers the other day. Salesdroid told me
> that DeWalt was notorious for poor quality control, and that
> I should get Ryobi instead. Was he full of it? I always
> thought of DeWalt as quality stuff.
>
> --
> -Ed Falk, [email protected]
> http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/

I'd not buy a Ryobi anything. Once was enough.


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