On Feb 2, 12:50 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> CW, what file to I need to restore/save if/when I need to restore my AutoCAD
> LT tool bars
> and their locations?
>
> If I reinstalled AutoCAD LT I would have to set up custom tool bars and
> their locations again. Do you know which file/files keep this info?
>
> Thank you
>
> Leon.
Leon,
I'm not familiar (intimately) with ACAD "LT" - but am an architect
that has been working with the 'full' AutoCAD since the '80s (and
teach it, as well).
I can offer this info...
In full AutoCAD, these kinds of things are saved in the 'menu' files
(there are 4 -- acad.mns, acad.mnc, acad.mnr & acad.mnl). The '.mns'
file is the 'menu source' (text readable and editable), while the
'.mnc' is a 'menu compiled'. Can be confusing -- but the best bet is
to simply grab/backup all 4 files - or, for that matter, *any* '.mn_'
file you find (there can be others).
Additionally, other setup information is in the 'acad.lsp' (Lisp)
file, the 'acad.pgp' (Program Parameters) and the
'acad.pat' (Patterns) files.
These files are found in the "support" (sub)directory under the main
ACAD installation.
All that said, ACAD LT is notable in one instance due to the fact that
it is *not* as customizable as the full-blown ACAD, so I can't speak
with authority as to how the above may or may not be implemented on
your installation - because many of these files (and this is one of
the reasons there are so many of them) deal specifically with all that
customizability.
I would study your installation and see if Autodesk implemented things
in a similar way -- if you see files of similar names (and, most
notably, extensions), these would probably be what you are looking
for. Several of these files are simply text files -- and can be
readable in Notepad, so you should be able to open them and study them
a bit.
Another approach may would be to look at your full ACAD LT
installation and note the file DATE (reset Windows Explorer to show
"details", so you can see the file date). From that, you should be
able to determine files that have been modified since the original
installation (like the 'acad.exe' application file).
Between the two, you should be able to correctly find those files that
hold that customize information.
Alternately, Google on "AutoCAD LT backup" and you may find some hits.
Hope this helps...
-- john.
Leon wrote:
> CW, what file to I need to restore/save if/when I need to restore my AutoCAD
> LT tool bars
> and their locations?
Forget about it today.
Tomorrow, open ACAD first thing ... before using ANY OTHER PROGRAM.
Change each of those menus you are anxious to keep. Exit ACAD (forcing
it to save the settings on the way out). Use the Windows 'search'
function and look for files saved today. That should show you the
smoking gun(s).
If you were using Linux, there would be a simpler, more immediate
answer*. But you aren't so there isn't.
Bill
*using "find' in the terminal and piping the results to "cp /some/path"
would locate the needed files and move a copy of them to safekeeping all
in the same command. You could end the command string with "ls
/some/path" to see what had been copied.
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Swingman wrote:
> LOL ... If he was using Linux he couldn't "simply" run it at all!
>
> ... at least not without a Windows api layer, like Wine, of some sort,
> which is a damn sight less "simple" to do than the few seconds it takes just
> doing a Search for the appropriate menu files under Windows.
>
That's why I know without asking that he isn't using Linux. <grin>
Searching for the files is easy ... figuring out what they are named is
the challenging part. That's the part I was focusing on.
(trim irrelevant discussion of relative merits of Wine, Bosch, CrossOver
Office and VMWare)
However, if the Windows box could be accessed by a Linux box across a
network, then I think that the Linux find command could be used across
the network. And I KNOW that the affected files could be pulled to the
Linux box and held safe from accidental clobbering during the ACAD
re-install. (There are lots of other safe places ... I sometimes send
myself files in email. Gmail will hold them until I get the computer
rebuilt to the point that I can access my email again.)
But the reality is that he's mostly familiar with ACAD, modestly
familiar with Windows, probably has heard of Linux and has almost
certainly never used a Unix type terminal for any 'for all the marbles'
purposes. That's a fairly steep learning curve just to find a handful of
files one time. For such limited use, it's not worth doing.
He could also skip the one day wait and just fiddle with the time stamp.
Tell the computer that it's tomorrow. Modify the files. Tell it that its
two days from now and ask 'search' for yesterdays files. When you get
them stashed, reset the clock to space time local. ;-)
DAMHIKT
Bill
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On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:46:34 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>LOL ... If he was using Linux he couldn't "simply" run it at all!
>
Somebody on a flying group recently called a Linux TiVO replacement
"easy to use and free", even though you'd need a powerful computer
with a huge drive (possibly dedicated), video capture card(s), time to
learn it and configure it, and it still won't change the channel on a
DirecTV receiver. Compared to a $5 a month TiVO fee with recorder
provided simply for committing for another year to DirecTV.
Linux is becoming the computer "political religion" of the new
millennium. <G>
The bottom line is that my wife can use TiVO after 10 seconds of
simple pointers. I don't even want to picture what it would be like
teaching her to use a freeware program running a non-windows OS, on a
computer sitting next to the TV, and she'd still have to be there to
change the channel.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Leon" wrote in message
>> CW, what file to I need to restore/save if/when I need to restore my
> AutoCAD
>> LT tool bars
>> and their locations?
>>
>> If I reinstalled AutoCAD LT I would have to set up custom tool bars and
>> their locations again. Do you know which file/files keep this info?
>
>
> Just a SWAG, but is their an .ini file? That's where the tool bar
> locations
> are usually stored in most applications.
Yes, normally that is the file to look for but AutoCAD has several other
files that keep up with settings. I usta know them but have lost the list.
"Bill in Detroit" wrote in message
> If you were using Linux, there would be a simpler, more immediate
> answer*. But you aren't so there isn't.
> Bill
LOL ... If he was using Linux he couldn't "simply" run it at all!
... at least not without a Windows api layer, like Wine, of some sort,
which is a damn sight less "simple" to do than the few seconds it takes just
doing a Search for the appropriate menu files under Windows.
--
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Last update: 1/27/07
"jcatora" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Feb 2, 12:50 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> CW, what file to I need to restore/save if/when I need to restore my
>> AutoCAD
>> LT tool bars
>> and their locations?
>>
>> If I reinstalled AutoCAD LT I would have to set up custom tool bars and
>> their locations again. Do you know which file/files keep this info?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Leon.
>
> Leon,
Snip
Thank you John, those files look familiar from what I recall. I'll take a
look for them and see what happens.
Leon
"Leon" wrote in message
> CW, what file to I need to restore/save if/when I need to restore my
AutoCAD
> LT tool bars
> and their locations?
>
> If I reinstalled AutoCAD LT I would have to set up custom tool bars and
> their locations again. Do you know which file/files keep this info?
Just a SWAG, but is their an .ini file? That's where the tool bar locations
are usually stored in most applications.
--
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Last update: 1/27/07
"Old Grey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:43:07 -0500, Bill in Detroit <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Leon wrote:
>>> CW, what file to I need to restore/save if/when I need to restore my
>>> AutoCAD
>>> LT tool bars
>>> and their locations?
>>
> Not sure if you found the files but there are 3 files that support the
> menu system in AutoCAD LT. The main one is the ACLT.mns file. This
> is the file that contains the code. When you open AutoCAD (either
> AutoCAD or LT) it compiles the other two (ACLT.mnu and ACLT.mnr) or it
> could be that only the .mnu file is compiled. But at any rate, you
> want the ACLT.mns file from the orignal program to go back tot he
> default.
>
> Now these files are specific to AutoCAD LT series before the 2006
> release. In 2006 they changed the menu system to customization files
> with extensions of CUI. Made it graphical input format so I find it
> harder to write the menu code straight in a text editor. Since I
> don't have an 06 series here, not sure where they put the cui files,
> but think they are located in the same spot as the mns files.
>
> If you have 2002 or earlier, the menu files are located in your
> program files\autocad 2002\support directory. If you have 2005 LT
> they are located within you documents and settings folder buried down
> in the hidden folders of Application Data. Mty path is:
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\Autodesk\AutoCAD LT
> 2005\R10\enu\Support. Now these files usually get updated everytime
> you load the menu, so everytime you start the program. So using the
> What changed from before concept may not really work.
>
> Good luck
Thank you Sir for the detailed explanation. My search results agree with
your suggested locations. I appreciate your help.
"Bill in Detroit" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Swingman wrote:
>
> He could also skip the one day wait and just fiddle with the time stamp.
>
> Tell the computer that it's tomorrow. Modify the files. Tell it that its
> two days from now and ask 'search' for yesterdays files. When you get them
> stashed, reset the clock to space time local. ;-)
>
> DAMHIKT
LOL, I remember years ago setting my computer date many months in advance
before installing a piece of trial ware.
Anyway, the simpler method that I use if I do not know the file name is with
a more powerful file manager.
I make a change to the program and then immediately search for those files
that have changed in the last 5 or less minutes.
Leon, I don't remember the specifics but the files you are looking for are
the .MN types. There are three or four of them.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Leon" wrote in message
> >> CW, what file to I need to restore/save if/when I need to restore my
> > AutoCAD
> >> LT tool bars
> >> and their locations?
> >>
> >> If I reinstalled AutoCAD LT I would have to set up custom tool bars and
> >> their locations again. Do you know which file/files keep this info?
> >
> >
> > Just a SWAG, but is their an .ini file? That's where the tool bar
> > locations
> > are usually stored in most applications.
>
>
> Yes, normally that is the file to look for but AutoCAD has several other
> files that keep up with settings. I usta know them but have lost the
list.
>
>
"Old Grey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 17:05:49 GMT, "Leon"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Old Grey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:43:07 -0500, Bill in Detroit <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>
>>
>>Thank you Sir for the detailed explanation. My search results agree with
>>your suggested locations. I appreciate your help.
>>
>
>
> If you need the mns file, let me know and I should be able to email
> you a copy. However, it will likley be modified to my very warped way
> of doing CAD :)
>
>
Thanks but I am thinking ahead for once. ;~) I wanted to save these files
with my data back ups, just in case.
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:43:07 -0500, Bill in Detroit <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Leon wrote:
>> CW, what file to I need to restore/save if/when I need to restore my AutoCAD
>> LT tool bars
>> and their locations?
>
>Forget about it today.
>
>Tomorrow, open ACAD first thing ... before using ANY OTHER PROGRAM.
>
>Change each of those menus you are anxious to keep. Exit ACAD (forcing
>it to save the settings on the way out). Use the Windows 'search'
>function and look for files saved today. That should show you the
>smoking gun(s).
>
>If you were using Linux, there would be a simpler, more immediate
>answer*. But you aren't so there isn't.
>Bill
>
>
>
>*using "find' in the terminal and piping the results to "cp /some/path"
>would locate the needed files and move a copy of them to safekeeping all
>in the same command. You could end the command string with "ls
>/some/path" to see what had been copied.
Dragging them out of the search window will work.
Or you can do "xcopy /s /d:02-04-2007 *.* /some/path"
You can also do this using the Windows Scripting Host with whatever
degree of granularity you might need, however the language there is
not so widely known as for Unix--Windows people tend not to use it--I
learned some of it a long time ago but never used it enough to
remember it--there are both BASIC-derived and Java-derived scripting
capabilities.
With Server 2K3 R2 and Vista Ultimate it should be possible to just
run find and cp however on 2K3 the default installation is hosed to
the point of frustration--I'd have to beat on it more than I have time
for right now to get it to go--haven't tried it with Vista Ultimate
yet.
Then there's Powershell which is slated to replace Windows Scripting
Host at some point in the dim distant future--should be able to do it
with any degree of precision with that. In the meantime both that and
Services For Unix, which on 2K and XP provides more or less the same
korn and c shells and utilities as on 2K3R2 and Vista Ultimate, are
free downloads from Microsoft.
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Leon, I don't remember the specifics but the files you are looking for are
> the .MN types. There are three or four of them.
Thank you CW, that confirms what Jcatora mentioned and doing a search for
those files revealed the aclt.* prefix that I recall.
I found 4 of them in 2 different locations. They appear to be duplicates of
each other.
Thanks again.
On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 17:05:49 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Old Grey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:43:07 -0500, Bill in Detroit <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>
>Thank you Sir for the detailed explanation. My search results agree with
>your suggested locations. I appreciate your help.
>
If you need the mns file, let me know and I should be able to email
you a copy. However, it will likley be modified to my very warped way
of doing CAD :)
On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:20:35 -0500, J. Clarke <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>While I agree that it's a lot simpler just to get a Tivo, you have
>been misinformed on several points.
Compared to a $5 / month TiVO w/ free hardware, thanks for reinforcing
my points. <G>
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:43:07 -0500, Bill in Detroit <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Leon wrote:
>> CW, what file to I need to restore/save if/when I need to restore my AutoCAD
>> LT tool bars
>> and their locations?
>
Not sure if you found the files but there are 3 files that support the
menu system in AutoCAD LT. The main one is the ACLT.mns file. This
is the file that contains the code. When you open AutoCAD (either
AutoCAD or LT) it compiles the other two (ACLT.mnu and ACLT.mnr) or it
could be that only the .mnu file is compiled. But at any rate, you
want the ACLT.mns file from the orignal program to go back tot he
default.
Now these files are specific to AutoCAD LT series before the 2006
release. In 2006 they changed the menu system to customization files
with extensions of CUI. Made it graphical input format so I find it
harder to write the menu code straight in a text editor. Since I
don't have an 06 series here, not sure where they put the cui files,
but think they are located in the same spot as the mns files.
If you have 2002 or earlier, the menu files are located in your
program files\autocad 2002\support directory. If you have 2005 LT
they are located within you documents and settings folder buried down
in the hidden folders of Application Data. Mty path is:
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\Autodesk\AutoCAD LT
2005\R10\enu\Support. Now these files usually get updated everytime
you load the menu, so everytime you start the program. So using the
What changed from before concept may not really work.
Good luck
On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:46:15 GMT, B A R R Y <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 11:46:34 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>LOL ... If he was using Linux he couldn't "simply" run it at all!
>>
>
>Somebody on a flying group recently called a Linux TiVO replacement
>"easy to use and free", even though you'd need a powerful computer
>with a huge drive (possibly dedicated), video capture card(s), time to
>learn it and configure it, and it still won't change the channel on a
>DirecTV receiver. Compared to a $5 a month TiVO fee with recorder
>provided simply for committing for another year to DirecTV.
>
>Linux is becoming the computer "political religion" of the new
>millennium. <G>
>
>The bottom line is that my wife can use TiVO after 10 seconds of
>simple pointers. I don't even want to picture what it would be like
>teaching her to use a freeware program running a non-windows OS, on a
>computer sitting next to the TV, and she'd still have to be there to
>change the channel.
While I agree that it's a lot simpler just to get a Tivo, you have
been misinformed on several points.
First, MythTV (the standard Linux PVR application) doesn't require a
"powerful computer". It may have several years ago but not anymore,
not if you're using a decent tuner board--a 1 GHz machine with one or
two or three or four of the Hauppauge WinTV-PVR boards should be fine.
Second, how huge the drive needs to be depends on how much TV you want
to store. Figure 2 gig an hour. The cheapest drive that Newegg sells
will store about 20 hours, but you can double that for another five
bucks.
Third, changing the channel on a DirecTV receiver using MythTV is well
documented.
Fourth, while configuring it requires considerable expertise, actually
_using_ it is not much different from using a Tivo.
Fifth, when you taught her to use that Tivo you were teaching her to
use a program running on a Linux box on a computer sitting next to the
TV.
Don't believe me? Google "Tivo hacking". That's all a Tivo is, a
computer running Linux with a Tivo-developed front end instead of a
freeware front end.
Now if you're talking an HDTivo it's a different story--right now
there's no way to replicate the functionality of an HDTivo with a
Linux box--there will be with a Windows box later this year but
initially you'll have to buy the machine preassembled--whether the
pieces to roll your won become available later is an open question,
and whether that capability will ever be available with Myth is even
more open.