Hiya Folks,
Not quite fine woodworking here but I'm looking to build a couple of
dressers for the cabin. I'm planning to build the carcasses and drawers
pretty much like
I would if it were fine furniture but want to put logs at the corners. I'm
thinking about removing a slice of the log (1/4 of it if looking from the
top) so it wraps around
the corners. I did this once before with a handsaw and it took a whole
lotta work. I'm wondering if there is a SAFE alternative (ie. table saw or
router or ???).
I've been pondering a jig for either the router or table saw but haven't
really come up with much that I feel safe about. Any ideas?
Thanks,
cc
"Cubby" wrote:
> Not quite fine woodworking here but I'm looking to build a couple of
> dressers for the cabin. I'm planning to build the carcasses and
drawers
> pretty much like
> I would if it were fine furniture but want to put logs at the
corners.
<snip>
About the only safe way to approach this problem is with a gantry
approach.
You need a fixxture that will clamp the part to a gantry bed while
first cut is made, then index 90 degrees and repeat.
You will need a left and a right hand fixture.
As for the gantry, it would be a design and build item using a
circular saw.
Probably take as much or more time to design and build as the final
product, and cost about the same.
Lew
On Jan 7, 5:58=A0am, RayV <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jan 7, 6:35=A0am, Puckdropper <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Cubby" <[email protected]> wrote innews:-sudnXnskbCSfhzanZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d=
@comcast.com:
>
> > > Hiya Folks,
> > > Not quite fine woodworking here but I'm looking to build a couple of
> > > dressers for the cabin. =A0I'm planning to build the carcasses and
> > > drawers pretty much like
> > > I would if it were fine furniture but want to put logs at the corners.=
> > > =A0 I'm thinking about removing a slice of the log (1/4 of it if looki=
ng
> > > from the top) so it wraps around
> > > the corners. =A0 I did this once before with a handsaw and it took a
> > > whole lotta work. =A0I'm wondering if there is a SAFE alternative (ie.=
> > > table saw or router or ???).
> > > I've been pondering a jig for either the router or table saw but
> > > haven't really come up with much that I feel safe about. =A0 Any ideas=
?
> > > Thanks,
> > > cc
>
> > You've got this, right:
> > =A0 =A0 =A0____
> > =A0 =A0 ( =A0 =A0)
> > =A0 =A0( =A0 =A0 =A0)
> > =A0 ( =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0)
> > =A0 =A0( =A0 =A0 =A0)
> > =A0 =A0 ( =A0 =A0)
> > =A0 =A0 =A0----
> > You want this:
> > =A0 =A0 =A0____
> > =A0 =A0 ( =A0 =A0)
> > =A0 =A0( =A0 =A0 =A0)
> > =A0 ( =A0 =A0____)
> > =A0 =A0( =A0 |
> > =A0 =A0 ( =A0|
> > =A0 =A0 =A0--|
>
> > Depending on the log, you could take two passes on the table saw. =A0Mak=
e a
> > jig to hold the log securely in place (remember, round rolls) and make
> > your cuts. =A0It might be the fastest way to do it... (but not necessari=
ly
> > the safest.) =A0Maybe a circular saw would be best?
>
> > If you don't mind using a little glue, you could cut the log in to
> > quarters, and glue the sections back together. =A0(Actually, you'd half =
the
> > log, then quarter one side.) =A0This can be done with a band saw. =A0(It=
> > might be a little safer.)
>
> > Puckdropper
> > --
> > Marching to the beat of a different drum is great... unless you're in
> > marching band.
>
> > To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm- Hi=
de quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Cut your logs a little over length and screw a square piece of plywood
> on either end just big enough so the log is inside the square. =A0Then
> bridge between the two squares with this circular saw jig:http://www.women=
inwoodworking.com/tips/startingpoints7.cfm
> Make the the first cut
>
> Move your bridge to the next side of the square and make the second
> cut.
>
> Trim log to length.
>
> Have a gimlet and admire your work.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
the square pieces of plywood are a good idea, but why not just run it
over the tablesaw? Don't hit the screws in the process.
montyhp
"montyhp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Jan 7, 5:58 am, RayV <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jan 7, 6:35 am, Puckdropper <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Cubby" <[email protected]> wrote
> > innews:[email protected]:
>
> > > Hiya Folks,
> > > Not quite fine woodworking here but I'm looking to build a couple of
> > > dressers for the cabin. I'm planning to build the carcasses and
> > > drawers pretty much like
> > > I would if it were fine furniture but want to put logs at the corners.
> > > I'm thinking about removing a slice of the log (1/4 of it if looking
> > > from the top) so it wraps around
> > > the corners. I did this once before with a handsaw and it took a
> > > whole lotta work. I'm wondering if there is a SAFE alternative (ie.
> > > table saw or router or ???).
> > > I've been pondering a jig for either the router or table saw but
> > > haven't really come up with much that I feel safe about. Any ideas?
> > > Thanks,
> > > cc
>
> > You've got this, right:
> > ____
> > ( )
> > ( )
> > ( )
> > ( )
> > ( )
> > ----
> > You want this:
> > ____
> > ( )
> > ( )
> > ( ____)
> > ( |
> > ( |
> > --|
>
> > Depending on the log, you could take two passes on the table saw. Make a
> > jig to hold the log securely in place (remember, round rolls) and make
> > your cuts. It might be the fastest way to do it... (but not necessarily
> > the safest.) Maybe a circular saw would be best?
>
> > If you don't mind using a little glue, you could cut the log in to
> > quarters, and glue the sections back together. (Actually, you'd half the
> > log, then quarter one side.) This can be done with a band saw. (It
> > might be a little safer.)
>
> > Puckdropper
> > --
> > Marching to the beat of a different drum is great... unless you're in
> > marching band.
>
> > To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm-
> > Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Cut your logs a little over length and screw a square piece of plywood
> on either end just big enough so the log is inside the square. Then
> bridge between the two squares with this circular saw
> jig:http://www.womeninwoodworking.com/tips/startingpoints7.cfm
> Make the the first cut
>
> Move your bridge to the next side of the square and make the second
> cut.
>
> Trim log to length.
>
> Have a gimlet and admire your work.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
>the square pieces of plywood are a good idea, but why not just run it
>over the tablesaw? Don't hit the screws in the process.
>montyhp
Consider what would happen when the plywood passes off the back edge of the
table saw.
- Owen -
On Jan 7, 2:30=A0am, "Cubby" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hiya Folks,
> Not quite fine woodworking here but I'm looking to build a couple of
> dressers for the cabin. =A0I'm planning to build the carcasses and drawers=
> pretty much like
> I would if it were fine furniture but want to put logs at the corners. =A0=
I'm
> thinking about removing a slice of the log (1/4 of it if looking from the
> top) so it wraps around
> the corners. =A0 I did this once before with a handsaw and it took a whole=
> lotta work. =A0I'm wondering if there is a SAFE alternative (ie. table saw=
or
> router or ???).
> I've been pondering a jig for either the router or table saw but haven't
> really come up with much that I feel safe about. =A0 Any ideas?
> Thanks,
Cubby,
I'd do it this way.
1. Using 3/4 ply, build a long narrow "shoe box" with no top, with
inside dimensions large enough to hold your largest log. At the
center of each end of your shoe box, drill a hole.
2. Cut each log to length so that it just fits inside the box. Drill
a pilot hole to accept a screw in the center of each end of each log.
3. Place your log in the box and attach by screwing through the
center holes into each end of the log.
4. Pre-drill and drive several additional screws through the end of
the box and into each end of the log to hold it securely.
5. REMOVE CENTER SCREWS!
6. Place the box on the table saw with the open side away from the
fence.
7. Adjust fence and blade height so that the blade reaches the center
screw holes.
8. Make one cut with the table saw.
9. Replace both center screws.
10. Remove the rest of the screws and rotate the log 90 degrees.
Replace the attachment screws.
11. REMOVE CENTER SCREWS!
12. Make the second cut.
13. Repeat steps 1-9 for the rest of the logs.
DonkeyHody
"Even an old blind hog finds an acorn every now and then."
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:NXmgj.47786$8Z1.7196@trnddc05...
> Bandsaw
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
Ok. How would I use a bandsaw to do this? I probably need to remove the
"quarter slice" if you will, from 40" of the logs.
Unless I had a massive bandsaw (and it would be huge!), I'm missing how to
do this. Maybe I'm missing somthing here so let me know
how you'd do it.
Cheers,
cc
On Jan 7, 6:35=A0am, Puckdropper <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Cubby" <[email protected]> wrote innews:-sudnXnskbCSfhzanZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@c=
omcast.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hiya Folks,
> > Not quite fine woodworking here but I'm looking to build a couple of
> > dressers for the cabin. =A0I'm planning to build the carcasses and
> > drawers pretty much like
> > I would if it were fine furniture but want to put logs at the corners.
> > =A0 I'm thinking about removing a slice of the log (1/4 of it if looking=
> > from the top) so it wraps around
> > the corners. =A0 I did this once before with a handsaw and it took a
> > whole lotta work. =A0I'm wondering if there is a SAFE alternative (ie.
> > table saw or router or ???).
> > I've been pondering a jig for either the router or table saw but
> > haven't really come up with much that I feel safe about. =A0 Any ideas?
> > Thanks,
> > cc
>
> You've got this, right:
> =A0 =A0 =A0____
> =A0 =A0 ( =A0 =A0)
> =A0 =A0( =A0 =A0 =A0)
> =A0 ( =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0)
> =A0 =A0( =A0 =A0 =A0)
> =A0 =A0 ( =A0 =A0)
> =A0 =A0 =A0----
> You want this:
> =A0 =A0 =A0____
> =A0 =A0 ( =A0 =A0)
> =A0 =A0( =A0 =A0 =A0)
> =A0 ( =A0 =A0____)
> =A0 =A0( =A0 |
> =A0 =A0 ( =A0|
> =A0 =A0 =A0--|
>
> Depending on the log, you could take two passes on the table saw. =A0Make =
a
> jig to hold the log securely in place (remember, round rolls) and make
> your cuts. =A0It might be the fastest way to do it... (but not necessarily=
> the safest.) =A0Maybe a circular saw would be best?
>
> If you don't mind using a little glue, you could cut the log in to
> quarters, and glue the sections back together. =A0(Actually, you'd half th=
e
> log, then quarter one side.) =A0This can be done with a band saw. =A0(It
> might be a little safer.)
>
> Puckdropper
> --
> Marching to the beat of a different drum is great... unless you're in
> marching band.
>
> To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm- Hide=
quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Cut your logs a little over length and screw a square piece of plywood
on either end just big enough so the log is inside the square. Then
bridge between the two squares with this circular saw jig:
http://www.womeninwoodworking.com/tips/startingpoints7.cfm
Make the the first cut
Move your bridge to the next side of the square and make the second
cut.
Trim log to length.
Have a gimlet and admire your work.
"Cubby" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Hiya Folks,
> Not quite fine woodworking here but I'm looking to build a couple of
> dressers for the cabin. I'm planning to build the carcasses and
> drawers pretty much like
> I would if it were fine furniture but want to put logs at the corners.
> I'm thinking about removing a slice of the log (1/4 of it if looking
> from the top) so it wraps around
> the corners. I did this once before with a handsaw and it took a
> whole lotta work. I'm wondering if there is a SAFE alternative (ie.
> table saw or router or ???).
> I've been pondering a jig for either the router or table saw but
> haven't really come up with much that I feel safe about. Any ideas?
> Thanks,
> cc
>
>
You've got this, right:
____
( )
( )
( )
( )
( )
----
You want this:
____
( )
( )
( ____)
( |
( |
--|
Depending on the log, you could take two passes on the table saw. Make a
jig to hold the log securely in place (remember, round rolls) and make
your cuts. It might be the fastest way to do it... (but not necessarily
the safest.) Maybe a circular saw would be best?
If you don't mind using a little glue, you could cut the log in to
quarters, and glue the sections back together. (Actually, you'd half the
log, then quarter one side.) This can be done with a band saw. (It
might be a little safer.)
Puckdropper
--
Marching to the beat of a different drum is great... unless you're in
marching band.
To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
On Jan 7, 3:32 am, "Cubby" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I might add that I thought of a chainsaw but honestly, I'm not sure
> I'm good enough with one to avoid kickback.
> I'm pretty good at cutting firewood but not sure about this!
The underside of the nose won't kick, just anything north of
4:00. Keep your end of the bar low and take your time, the
chain on your saw didn't come filed for ripping. You'll still
need to plane the inside of the channel true.
"Cubby" <[email protected]> writes:
> I've been pondering a jig for either the router or table saw but haven't
> really come up with much that I feel safe about. Any ideas?
A sliding sled that follows the fence seems to be the key.
How long will it be? How about you fasten a square piece on the top
and bottom, and then a third reusable piece on the side connecting the two?
Then cut away the excess at the ends to hide the screw marks.
"Father Haskell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:528c022a-5999-4dbe-8568-2973eec8b210@j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 7, 3:32 am, "Cubby" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, I might add that I thought of a chainsaw but honestly, I'm not
>> sure
>> I'm good enough with one to avoid kickback.
>> I'm pretty good at cutting firewood but not sure about this!
>
> The underside of the nose won't kick, just anything north of
> 4:00. Keep your end of the bar low and take your time, the
> chain on your saw didn't come filed for ripping. You'll still
> need to plane the inside of the channel true.
>
>
In fact - I have done exactly this. Had to notch logs to make corner
pillars on my garage, and just used my chain saw.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Cubby wrote:
> Hiya Folks,
> Not quite fine woodworking here but I'm looking to build a couple of
> dressers for the cabin. I'm planning to build the carcasses and
> drawers pretty much like
> I would if it were fine furniture but want to put logs at the
> corners. I'm thinking about removing a slice of the log (1/4 of
> it if looking from the top) so it wraps around
> the corners. I did this once before with a handsaw and it took a
> whole lotta work. I'm wondering if there is a SAFE alternative
> (ie. table saw or router or ???).
Bandsaw
--
dadiOH
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"Cubby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hiya Folks,
> Not quite fine woodworking here but I'm looking to build a couple of
> dressers for the cabin. I'm planning to build the carcasses and drawers
> pretty much like
> I would if it were fine furniture but want to put logs at the corners.
> I'm thinking about removing a slice of the log (1/4 of it if looking from
> the top) so it wraps around
> the corners. I did this once before with a handsaw and it took a whole
> lotta work. I'm wondering if there is a SAFE alternative (ie. table saw
> or router or ???).
> I've been pondering a jig for either the router or table saw but haven't
> really come up with much that I feel safe about. Any ideas?
> Thanks,
> cc
>
>
Sorry, I might add that I thought of a chainsaw but honestly, I'm not sure
I'm good enough with one to avoid kickback.
I'm pretty good at cutting firewood but not sure about this!
Cheers,
cc
Cubby wrote:
> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:NXmgj.47786$8Z1.7196@trnddc05...
>> Bandsaw
>>
>> --
>>
>> dadiOH
>> ____________________________
> Ok. How would I use a bandsaw to do this? I probably need to
> remove the "quarter slice" if you will, from 40" of the logs.
> Unless I had a massive bandsaw (and it would be huge!), I'm missing
> how to do this. Maybe I'm missing somthing here so let me know
> how you'd do it.
I missed the "quarter slice" :(
One way to do that is with a hand held circular saw with depth of cut
set appropriately. A lot depends on the diameter of the logs - gotta
be small enough so that the blade at max depth will reach half way.
Of course, you could do the same thing with a table saw, just gotta
keep the log from rolling by temporarily nailing to a flat board.
--
dadiOH
____________________________
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Cubby <[email protected]> wrote:
: Hiya Folks,
: Not quite fine woodworking here but I'm looking to build a couple of
: dressers for the cabin. I'm planning to build the carcasses and drawers
: pretty much like
: I would if it were fine furniture but want to put logs at the corners.
You might be interested in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HKA1mvhV5Y&feature=related
It doesn't have to do with your immediate question; it shows how to
make rustic furniture with "natural" surfaces.
--- Chip
"Cubby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hiya Folks,
> Not quite fine woodworking here but I'm looking to build a couple of
> dressers for the cabin. I'm planning to build the carcasses and drawers
> pretty much like
> I would if it were fine furniture but want to put logs at the corners.
> I'm thinking about removing a slice of the log (1/4 of it if looking from
> the top) so it wraps around
> the corners. I did this once before with a handsaw and it took a whole
> lotta work. I'm wondering if there is a SAFE alternative (ie. table saw
> or router or ???).
> I've been pondering a jig for either the router or table saw but haven't
> really come up with much that I feel safe about. Any ideas?
> Thanks,
> cc
>
>
Thanks folks. These "logs" are only about 3"-4" in diameter so not huge.
I will probably have 20-24 to do so building a jig is probably worth the
effort. Plenty of ideas thrown out here so that is most appreciated. I
may even try the chainsaw method as well. Thanks folks for helping me out!
Cheers,
cc