Greetings,
I lurk here off and on I don't contribute much info, due to the fact I feel
there are many here more experienced than myself.
With that precedent,I have a wood working predicament.
I have to put egg shaped impressions in harwood 1-3/4 wide by 2-1/4 appr.
3/8 deep.
I have been using a jig that I clamp to the wood and I use a 1-1/2" dia.
cove shape cutter in a 3 hp plunge router. This is a very labor intensive
way to accomplish this task. The bit leaves a small area in the center I
need to sand out with my Foredom, and it is very scary plunging into the
wood.
Any ideas?
Maybe get a special made cutter, so I don't have to go around in the jig?
Chip clean out is a problem as well.
Here is a link to a pic of the finished pocket.
http://www.lambpipes.com/bowlcloseup.jpg
I do these inline.
Could this be accomplished with a cnc router?
Thank you for your time.
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Thanks Frank the flat bit sounds like a good idea.
I do take 3 passes to finish the pocket, mostly for removing the chips.
I have a jig that allows me to make 20 pockets without moving the jig.
It is scary because I am trying to remove to much at once. (poor techinique)
I would love to outsource this operation to a large woodshop with a CNC
router.
I am in Michigan
Thanks again,
Ken
"Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Ken Lamb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> > The bit leaves a small area in the center I
> > need to sand out with my Foredom, and it is very scary plunging into the
> > wood.
>
> A second router with a flat cutting bit set to the correct depth (not a
> plunge setup) would make the leftover cleanup a breeze.
> Why is it scary plunging the router into the wood? Routing is a relativly
> safe activity with the correct techniques. Maybe there is something in
your
> technique that needs to be fixed. Maybe you need to make the plunge in a
> couple of steps so you are not removing too much at once. Maybe if you
take
> my advice about the second router, you could clean out the middle first
with
> the flat bit and that would be less for the profiled bit to remove.
>
> > Any ideas?
> > Maybe get a special made cutter, so I don't have to go around in the
jig?
> > Chip clean out is a problem as well
> > Here is a link to a pic of the finished pocket.
> > http://www.lambpipes.com/bowlcloseup.jpg
> > I do these inline.
>
> If you are doing several next to each other like it appears on the
picture,
> make a jig that will do all of the cutouts at once so you only have to
> position the jig once instead of moving it and realigning it for each cut.
>
> > Could this be accomplished with a cnc router?
>
> Yes definately, but the cost may be excessive. I would spend some time
> making your current setup work better before deciding to tak the plunge
> (ha!).
>
> Frank
>
>
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"Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Ken Lamb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Thanks Frank the flat bit sounds like a good idea.
> > I do take 3 passes to finish the pocket, mostly for removing the chips.
> > I have a jig that allows me to make 20 pockets without moving the jig.
> > It is scary because I am trying to remove to much at once. (poor
> techinique)
> > I would love to outsource this operation to a large woodshop with a CNC
> > router.
> > I am in Michigan
>
> Makes sense. I am also in Michigan (Clarkston) but am unaware of any
shops
> that could help. I'm sure they exist however.
> Where do you live?
>
> Frank
Saginaw
1hr 15min N of you
Ken
>
>
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These are all great ideas guys.
I am going to try these tips.
Thank you very much,
Ken
"Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Would it save passes to hog out material with a big fortner bit in a DP
> first?
>
> -s
>
> "Ken Lamb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Greetings,
> > I lurk here off and on I don't contribute much info, due to the fact I
> feel
> > there are many here more experienced than myself.
> > With that precedent,I have a wood working predicament.
> > I have to put egg shaped impressions in harwood 1-3/4 wide by 2-1/4
appr.
> > 3/8 deep.
> > I have been using a jig that I clamp to the wood and I use a 1-1/2" dia.
> > cove shape cutter in a 3 hp plunge router. This is a very labor
intensive
> > way to accomplish this task. The bit leaves a small area in the center I
> > need to sand out with my Foredom, and it is very scary plunging into the
> > wood.
> > Any ideas?
> > Maybe get a special made cutter, so I don't have to go around in the
jig?
> > Chip clean out is a problem as well.
> > Here is a link to a pic of the finished pocket.
> > http://www.lambpipes.com/bowlcloseup.jpg
> > I do these inline.
> > Could this be accomplished with a cnc router?
> > Thank you for your time.
> >
> >
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"Ken Lamb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> The bit leaves a small area in the center I
> need to sand out with my Foredom, and it is very scary plunging into the
> wood.
A second router with a flat cutting bit set to the correct depth (not a
plunge setup) would make the leftover cleanup a breeze.
Why is it scary plunging the router into the wood? Routing is a relativly
safe activity with the correct techniques. Maybe there is something in your
technique that needs to be fixed. Maybe you need to make the plunge in a
couple of steps so you are not removing too much at once. Maybe if you take
my advice about the second router, you could clean out the middle first with
the flat bit and that would be less for the profiled bit to remove.
> Any ideas?
> Maybe get a special made cutter, so I don't have to go around in the jig?
> Chip clean out is a problem as well
> Here is a link to a pic of the finished pocket.
> http://www.lambpipes.com/bowlcloseup.jpg
> I do these inline.
If you are doing several next to each other like it appears on the picture,
make a jig that will do all of the cutouts at once so you only have to
position the jig once instead of moving it and realigning it for each cut.
> Could this be accomplished with a cnc router?
Yes definately, but the cost may be excessive. I would spend some time
making your current setup work better before deciding to tak the plunge
(ha!).
Frank
"Ken Lamb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings,
> I lurk here off and on I don't contribute much info, due to the fact I
feel
> there are many here more experienced than myself.
> With that precedent,I have a wood working predicament.
> I have to put egg shaped impressions in harwood 1-3/4 wide by 2-1/4 appr.
> 3/8 deep.
> I have been using a jig that I clamp to the wood and I use a 1-1/2" dia.
> cove shape cutter in a 3 hp plunge router. This is a very labor intensive
> way to accomplish this task. The bit leaves a small area in the center I
> need to sand out with my Foredom, and it is very scary plunging into the
> wood.
> Any ideas?
> Maybe get a special made cutter, so I don't have to go around in the jig?
> Chip clean out is a problem as well.
> Here is a link to a pic of the finished pocket.
> http://www.lambpipes.com/bowlcloseup.jpg
> I do these inline.
> Could this be accomplished with a cnc router?
> Thank you for your time.
Ken,
Couple thoughts. Are these cups the same depth front to back, or
shallower @ the front edge(or would you like them shallower @ front edge)?
The picture looks like same depth. I agree with Frank that you may need to
do it in 2 steps, taking about half the depth, then coming back @ full
depth.
I understand the "labor intensive" part! Did the whole front porch railing
system, cutting pockets for spindles in the bottom rails with 3/8" straight
bit & plunge router. Can't help you with that dilemma unless you're willing
to shuck out the shekels for the CNC work.
IF you wanted the pocket "tapered" you could make your jig tapered, say 1/4"
higher @ the front edge. Might also help some of the *scary* plunge, start @
the shallow end and go deeper.
Just my $.02
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Nahmie
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safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'WOW! What A
Ride!'"
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Would it save passes to hog out material with a big fortner bit in a DP
first?
-s
"Ken Lamb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Greetings,
> I lurk here off and on I don't contribute much info, due to the fact I
feel
> there are many here more experienced than myself.
> With that precedent,I have a wood working predicament.
> I have to put egg shaped impressions in harwood 1-3/4 wide by 2-1/4 appr.
> 3/8 deep.
> I have been using a jig that I clamp to the wood and I use a 1-1/2" dia.
> cove shape cutter in a 3 hp plunge router. This is a very labor intensive
> way to accomplish this task. The bit leaves a small area in the center I
> need to sand out with my Foredom, and it is very scary plunging into the
> wood.
> Any ideas?
> Maybe get a special made cutter, so I don't have to go around in the jig?
> Chip clean out is a problem as well.
> Here is a link to a pic of the finished pocket.
> http://www.lambpipes.com/bowlcloseup.jpg
> I do these inline.
> Could this be accomplished with a cnc router?
> Thank you for your time.
>
>
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"Ken Lamb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Thanks Frank the flat bit sounds like a good idea.
> I do take 3 passes to finish the pocket, mostly for removing the chips.
> I have a jig that allows me to make 20 pockets without moving the jig.
> It is scary because I am trying to remove to much at once. (poor
techinique)
> I would love to outsource this operation to a large woodshop with a CNC
> router.
> I am in Michigan
Makes sense. I am also in Michigan (Clarkston) but am unaware of any shops
that could help. I'm sure they exist however.
Where do you live?
Frank