I don't know about you, but I think it's awful how some things are
definitely NOT better in this global market. One thing that has
deteriorated in the name of profit is aglets. They used to be made of
durable metal, and almost invariably outlasted the laces they were
crimped on to. Now, however, they are almost universally cheap plastic,
and fall apart before the shoelaces are barely worn.
While this is not a problem for boots with hooks, my boots require that
I pull the laces through the eyelets every time I don or doff them,
wearing out the aglets in short order. But, I have discovered a cure!
I got some heat-shrink tubing and cut pieces just a bit longer than the
aglets, and shrank them up tight over the aglets, creating a much more
durable, and replaceable, aglet than the originals.
On 3/21/2013 5:13 PM, willshak wrote:
> It's only regional in those areas where most know what it means.
> In areas where most do not know what it means, it is foreign.
Really? No kidding?
<Watch those brilliant displays of logic there, Bill. Had to adjust the
contrast on my monitor for that one>
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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> How does anyone get sensitive when talking about a fricking
> shoelace?
Over here in far East (Texas), that's a "farking" shoelace, Bubba!
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"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> How does anyone get sensitive when talking about a fricking
>>> shoelace?
>>
>> Over here in far East (Texas), that's a "farking" shoelace, Bubba!
>> ;)
>
> Bullshit - it's "them string things on yer boots"
>
> Who in the hell wears them on cowboy boots anyway?
No need, cowboy boots are aglets ... they lets you do agriculture without
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:53:45 -0500, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/21/2013 7:18 AM, Dave wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:08:47 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Never heard that word in my life, and I haven't lived a sheltered life.
>>> Must be Northern terminology?
>>
>> Hey! Don't throw your lack of knowledge on us. Apparently, its origin
>> comes from an old French word~ European French, not even Quebec
>> French.
>
> Can you add something, other than your bibliobibuli Google barf above,
> to the query about whether "aglet" is mostly regional in use?
>
> <That's right, go ahead and Google that other word while you're at it>
It can't be common southern usage, I had never heard it either, always
referred to it as the hickey on the end of a shoestring.
basilisk
Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:53:45 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:08:47 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Never heard that word in my life, and I haven't lived a sheltered life.
>>>> Must be Northern terminology?
>>>
>>> Hey! Don't throw your lack of knowledge on us. Apparently, its origin
>>> comes from an old French word~ European French, not even Quebec
>>> French.
>>
>> Can you add something, other than your bibliobibuli Google barf above,
>> to the query about whether "aglet" is mostly regional in use?
>>
>> <That's right, go ahead and Google that other word while you're at it>
>
> Google barfed or not, you didn't know it so that automatically means
> it's Northern Terminology?
Having lived every other place than the North, and not having heard the
term anywhere else, it was a legitimate question totally unworthy of your
unnecessary, out of left field snideness.
> Maybe I should just attribute your dispensing attitude to one born of
> Texas drawl.
And to what do we attribute your original "dispensing of attitude" with
the uncalled for:
>>> Hey! Don't throw your lack of knowledge on us.
Might want to try getting your panties untwisted and starting the day over
... and not for the first time.
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:29:07 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:46:58 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Having lived every other place than the North, and not having heard the
>>> term anywhere else, it was a legitimate question totally unworthy of your
>>> unnecessary, out of left field snideness.
>Hell, Bubba ... around here "North" could mean Dallas ... WTF is it with
>this "Canada" shit?
>Well, it arguably took a considerable pile of shit from you to
>unilaterally introduce "Canada" into the discussion, eh?
Considering that Canada frequently is called the Great White North,
AND considering that you just stated that you've lived everywhere
else, the assumption that you were talking about Canada is not a big
stretch at all.
As I stated and very much amplified with every reply you come up with
~ You're full of shit. Keep digging, you're only covering yourself
with more of it.
On 3/21/2013 9:10 AM, basilisk wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:02:25 -0400, Dave wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:46:58 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Having lived every other place than the North, and not having heard the
>>> term anywhere else, it was a legitimate question totally unworthy of your
>>> unnecessary, out of left field snideness.
>>
>> Riiiiight! You haven't lived in Canada so if there's something you
>> don't know, that presupposes that it's of Canadian origin.
>>
> Swing could have been referring to Dallas...
>
> basilisk
>
ROTHF No kidding. Parts of Texas are actually in the North!
On 3/21/2013 10:51 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 3/21/13 8:52 AM, Leon wrote:
>>
>> Swingman is right! ;~) In Texas we commonly call the "aglet" that dam
>> little plastic thang on the end of the shoe lace that fails. ;~)
>
>
> I that was the term for what happens 9mos after an A&M co-ed gets pregnant.
My initial thought also ... WTF does an aglet have to do with shoelaces??
You are a product of your environment. :)
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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
"scritch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I don't know about you, but I think it's awful how some things are
> definitely NOT better in this global market. One thing that has
> deteriorated in the name of profit is aglets. They used to be made of
> durable metal, and almost invariably outlasted the laces they were crimped
> on to. Now, however, they are almost universally cheap plastic, and fall
> apart before the shoelaces are barely worn.
>
> While this is not a problem for boots with hooks, my boots require that I
> pull the laces through the eyelets every time I don or doff them, wearing
> out the aglets in short order. But, I have discovered a cure! I got some
> heat-shrink tubing and cut pieces just a bit longer than the aglets, and
> shrank them up tight over the aglets, creating a much more durable, and
> replaceable, aglet than the originals.
>
There ya go. I have lots of shrink tubing laying around and use it for all
kinds of repairs. I never thought of aglet repair. And they come in bright
colors too. So you won't have problems seeing them.
And I do have aglet problems. Between two kittens and a puppy, the only
shoes around here with aglets left were locked up in a closet during their
younger days. We had this one monster kitty who used to untie my shoelaces
every time I sat down. It got to be downright dangerous around it. It got
to such a monster, we got rid of her. Replaced it with a kitten from a
neighborhood cat and he was fine. By the time he arrived, all the aglets
were gone!
"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 3/21/2013 8:17 AM, Dave wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:53:45 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:08:47 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Never heard that word in my life, and I haven't lived a sheltered
>>>>> life.
>>>>> Must be Northern terminology?
>>>>
>>>> Hey! Don't throw your lack of knowledge on us. Apparently, its origin
>>>> comes from an old French word~ European French, not even Quebec
>>>> French.
>>>
>>> Can you add something, other than your bibliobibuli Google barf above,
>>> to the query about whether "aglet" is mostly regional in use?
>>>
>>> <That's right, go ahead and Google that other word while you're at it>
>>
>> Google barfed or not, you didn't know it so that automatically means
>> it's Northern Terminology?
>>
>> Maybe I should just attribute your dispensing attitude to one born of
>> Texas drawl.
>>
>
>
> Swingman is right! ;~) In Texas we commonly call the "aglet" that dam
> little plastic thang on the end of the shoe lace that fails. ;~)
I first heard the term on the old Johnny Carson show.
"Swingman" wrote:
>> I first heard the term on the old Johnny Carson show.
>
> Well, there you go ... Iowa is indeed way "Northern" to this
> coonass.
>
> Which begs the question ... how on earth did it come up on the
> Carson show?
----------------------------------------------------
Since Carson was from Nebraska, where is the Iowa fit?
Lew
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Well, there you go ... Iowa is indeed way "Northern" to this coonass.
>
> Which begs the question ... how on earth did it come up on the Carson
> show?
>
Jonny liked words. One of the reasons that he loved George Carlin. Carlin
had whole routines just based on words. Anyway, Johnny would often ask,
did you know the word for....? And he did ask the question about the little
thing on the end of the shoe lace. In fact, I remember he asked that
question a number of times.
"-MIKE-" wrote:
> Yep. And you probably know how to pronounce Ashtabula.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Yep,have also sailed in and out of Ashtabula many times.
-----------------------------------------------------------
> I live there the first 30 years of my live and I still can't spell
> Cuyahoga without looking it up.
-------------------------------------------------------
What part of Cleveland or should I say Cuyahoga County?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Pierogi is the real qualifier. If you even know what it is, can
> spell it, *and* have eaten them on occasion, you're a real Great
> Laker.
------------------------------------------------------------
Kraut, potato, various fruits, take your choice of fillings.
Lots of sour cream on top.
Could almost be sure they would be served on Friday.
Lew
"-MIKE-" wrote:
> Crap Lew, now you got me craving.
> There's only ONE real Jewish deli in all of Nashville and I don't
> think they've ever served them.
---------------------------------------------------------
Don't feel like the Lone Ranger.
Here in SoCal, almost impossible to find real deli rye bread.
They are truly clueless when you ask for rye bread "with seeds".
Lew
<[email protected]> wrote:
> How does anyone get sensitive when talking about a fricking
> shoelace?
>
> Robert
--------------------------------------------------
It's been a slow day in the news room.
Lew
"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:
> "scritch" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> I don't know about you, but I think it's awful how some things are >
>> definitely NOT better in this global market. One thing that has >
>> deteriorated in the name of profit is aglets. They used to be made of >
>> durable metal, and almost invariably outlasted the laces they were
>> crimped > on to. Now, however, they are almost universally cheap
>> plastic, and fall > apart before the shoelaces are barely worn.
>>
>> While this is not a problem for boots with hooks, my boots require that
>> I > pull the laces through the eyelets every time I don or doff them,
>> wearing > out the aglets in short order. But, I have discovered a cure!
>> I got some > heat-shrink tubing and cut pieces just a bit longer than
>> the aglets, and > shrank them up tight over the aglets, creating a much
>> more durable, and > replaceable, aglet than the originals.
>>
> There ya go. I have lots of shrink tubing laying around and use it for
> all kinds of repairs. I never thought of aglet repair. And they come in
> bright colors too. So you won't have problems seeing them.
>
> And I do have aglet problems. Between two kittens and a puppy, the only
> shoes around here with aglets left were locked up in a closet during
> their younger days. We had this one monster kitty who used to untie my
> shoelaces every time I sat down. It got to be downright dangerous around
> it. It got to such a monster, we got rid of her. Replaced it with a
> kitten from a neighborhood cat and he was fine. By the time he arrived,
> all the aglets were gone!
Never heard that word in my life, and I haven't lived a sheltered life.
Must be Northern terminology?
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"Dave" wrote:
> Well, I'm at fault in one respect. I made the mistake in not
> realizing
> that in your mind, the USA is the centre of the universe. Why would
> I
> think that "North" was *anywhere* outside of the USA?
>
> What the hell was I thinking? Why would I even consider that the
> topics and users of this newgroup might span many, many countries?
>
> Well, it won't happen again. When YOU are posting, unless you state
> otherwise, I will KNOW that you are talking about the USA and in
> particular, your own little section of the great USA.
-------------------------------------------------------
"North" is anything over the "Grapevine" on I-5 from LA.
It is about 4100 ft elevation so makes an easy line of demarcation.
Lew
On 3/21/2013 10:28 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:47:36 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You, who just admitted above to making "assumptions", and proving the
>> old saying in doing so, now calling someone else full of shit?
>
> Well, I'm at fault in one respect. I made the mistake in not realizing
> that in your mind, the USA is the centre of the universe. Why would I
> think that "North" was *anywhere* outside of the USA?
>
> What the hell was I thinking? Why would I even consider that the
> topics and users of this newgroup might span many, many countries?
>
> Well, it won't happen again. When YOU are posting, unless you state
> otherwise, I will KNOW that you are talking about the USA and in
> particular, your own little section of the great USA.
Again, Dave ... it is _provably_ you, and ONLY you, who (foolishly and
without provacation) introduced nationality into this discussion ...
live with it.
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:47:36 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>You, who just admitted above to making "assumptions", and proving the
>old saying in doing so, now calling someone else full of shit?
Well, I'm at fault in one respect. I made the mistake in not realizing
that in your mind, the USA is the centre of the universe. Why would I
think that "North" was *anywhere* outside of the USA?
What the hell was I thinking? Why would I even consider that the
topics and users of this newgroup might span many, many countries?
Well, it won't happen again. When YOU are posting, unless you state
otherwise, I will KNOW that you are talking about the USA and in
particular, your own little section of the great USA.
Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
> You know what pisses people off and precipitates every argument you
> get into? Every time someone disagrees with you, even in the slightest
> form, your reply automatically includes some sort of insult ~ without
> exception.
>
> You're just too fucking arrogant to accept any explanation except your
> own. That's why you're full of shit.
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On 3/21/2013 10:17 PM, Larry Kraus wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>
>> On 3/21/2013 6:55 PM, scritch wrote:
>>> On 3/21/2013 6:48 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I tried that years ago with Rockport shoe laces, the ends always
>>>> prematurely failed. The problem with the heat shrink tubing is that it
>>>> did not hold up as well as the original aglets.
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, I have found that the aglets on every pair of replacement shoe
>>>> laces hold up well as long as they are not Rockport brand.
>>>
>>> But the heat-shrink is replaceable!
>>
>>
>> Yes it is, and in my experience it not only is replaceable but has to be
>> replaced more often than the originals. Basically, I choose to spend
>> the $2 for a better pair of laces that break before the aglet does.
>>
>> It was a cool idea but I felt it was too much trouble to continue that
>> cycle. YMMV
>
> The heat shrink snags a bit when pulling the lace back out of the
> eyelet during boot removal and eventually pulls off.
>
> This works:
> Slide a short (1/2") length of heat shrink a few inches down the
> lace.
> Work some black silicone sealer into the last 3/4" of the lace
> fabric.
> Slide the heat shrink to cover the end and shrink it down.
> Let the silicone set up and trim the lace end to angle.
>
> Eventually the heat shrink will come off, but now you have a flexible
> rubbery end that does not snag or fray and will last the life of the
> lace.
>
;~) Now on to solve other worldly problems.
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:46:58 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Having lived every other place than the North, and not having heard the
>term anywhere else, it was a legitimate question totally unworthy of your
>unnecessary, out of left field snideness.
Riiiiight! You haven't lived in Canada so if there's something you
don't know, that presupposes that it's of Canadian origin.
Sometimes Karl, you're so full of shit it's stifling.
>Might want to try getting your panties untwisted and starting the day over
>... and not for the first time.
Yup. Don't have to start anything over, I'm just fine.
I must be getting too old.
I had no idea what an aglet was... didn't care. Never spent a day
thinking about one. What caught me about this thread was that Karl
makes an off handed innocent reference/guess to a region by direction
when trying to find out what an aglet actually is or does, and panties
knot so tightly that the thread generates more activity than those
dedicated to wood working.
I thought the original post was interesting and kind of fun, but I
think now I don't want anything to do with aglets. It seems that it
is a much hotter topic than I would have ever guessed it to be.
Sadly, I am not well traveled and as a result I don't think too hard
on regional references. I enjoy them. Around here, we laugh about
our regional references, idioms and colloquialisms and get a kick out
of something being "a Southern thing". A shortcoming on my part, no
doubt. I will endeavor to be more watchful for regional or even area
references in the future to make sure my Southerness isn't impugned.
And I looked up "aglet". Although I have been wearing shoes and boots
now for several years, I have decided from reading all of this that I
don't see what the fuss is about when talking about "the plastic deal
on the end of the laces that keeps them from unraveling".
How does anyone get sensitive when talking about a fricking
shoelace?
Robert
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:51:00 -0500, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/21/2013 10:08 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>
>>> Well, there you go ... Iowa is indeed way "Northern" to this coonass.
>>>
>>> Which begs the question ... how on earth did it come up on the Carson
>>> show?
>>>
>> Jonny liked words. One of the reasons that he loved George Carlin.
>> Carlin had whole routines just based on words. Anyway, Johnny would
>> often ask, did you know the word for....? And he did ask the question
>> about the little thing on the end of the shoe lace. In fact, I remember
>> he asked that question a number of times.
>
> Which would definitely indicate that it is indeed NOT a commonly used,
> or well known, term.
>
> I like words also, which is a reason why I remarked on it in the first
> place, but I don't know that I would have even snapped to it if the
> spelling wasn't so corrupted from the apparent French origin ...
>
> Mercy Buckets ...
Hmmm, learned two new words today, "misandry", picked it up
on another group.
I should have known that one, considering some of the women I've
been around.
basilisk
On 3/21/2013 5:23 PM, willshak wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>> On 3/21/2013 10:08 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>
>>>> Well, there you go ... Iowa is indeed way "Northern" to this coonass.
>>>>
>>>> Which begs the question ... how on earth did it come up on the Carson
>>>> show?
>>>>
>>> Jonny liked words. One of the reasons that he loved George Carlin.
>>> Carlin had whole routines just based on words. Anyway, Johnny would
>>> often ask, did you know the word for....? And he did ask the question
>>> about the little thing on the end of the shoe lace. In fact, I remember
>>> he asked that question a number of times.
>>
>> Which would definitely indicate that it is indeed NOT a commonly used,
>> or well known, term.
>>
>> I like words also, which is a reason why I remarked on it in the first
>> place, but I don't know that I would have even snapped to it if the
>> spelling wasn't so corrupted from the apparent French origin ...
>>
>> Mercy Buckets ...
>
> I was born in the US, New York in fact. There are American English words
> that I have never heard of in my 75 years of life.
Well, with at least one exception, I, who was born, web footed, in the
swamps of South Louisiana, have now apparently joined an esteemed group. ;)
> Aglet was not one of
> them. As I am an aficianado of crossword puzzles, I come across it quite
> often.
Congratulations.
IOW, further proof that it is, by virtue of being used in a puzzle (and
reportedly and repeatedly so by none other than Johnny Carson himself),
a bit more obscure than your average everyday term?
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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
On 3/21/2013 11:22 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/21/2013 11:17 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 3/21/2013 9:53 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 3/21/2013 9:31 AM, Nick wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also have occasional problems with aiglets. I'm a rightpondian and
>>>> have
>>>> always known them as such. My dictionaries (both US and UK) do not
>>>> show the
>>>> word aglet. They both show aiglet, or aiguillette. Middle French
>>>> meaning the
>>>> METAL tag at the end of a shoelace or other lace.
>>>>
>>>> I'd not thought of heatshrink tube. I've always used a short piece of
>>>> suitable metal tube crimped to the end of lace.
>>>>
>>>> Just my 2P's worth.
>>>> Nick.
>>>
>>> I know "aiguillette" as a small needle, but would never had made the
>>> connection between that and a farking shoelace? :)
>>>
>>> My bet is that without Google, there would be a lot more without a clue
>>> in that regard if they would only be honest enough to admit it.
>>>
>>> Most of us, who have more important things to do, leave the discussion
>>> of shoelaces to little girls, shoe merchants, and ribbon clerks. <g>
>>>
>>> Live and learn ... and be honest enough to admit that you do.
>>>
>>
>>
>> WTF is'a "ribbon clerk" LOL
>
> An old poker playing term from my wasted youth ... derogatory, for
> someone who continually and only bets small amounts.
>
And here I was thinking maybe a person that adds foo foo stuff to
accessorize women's dresses at the point of sale. :~O
On 3/21/2013 3:02 PM, basilisk wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:51:00 -0500, Swingman wrote:
>
>> On 3/21/2013 10:08 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>
>>>> Well, there you go ... Iowa is indeed way "Northern" to this coonass.
>>>>
>>>> Which begs the question ... how on earth did it come up on the Carson
>>>> show?
>>>>
>>> Jonny liked words. One of the reasons that he loved George Carlin.
>>> Carlin had whole routines just based on words. Anyway, Johnny would
>>> often ask, did you know the word for....? And he did ask the question
>>> about the little thing on the end of the shoe lace. In fact, I remember
>>> he asked that question a number of times.
>>
>> Which would definitely indicate that it is indeed NOT a commonly used,
>> or well known, term.
>>
>> I like words also, which is a reason why I remarked on it in the first
>> place, but I don't know that I would have even snapped to it if the
>> spelling wasn't so corrupted from the apparent French origin ...
>>
>> Mercy Buckets ...
>
> Hmmm, learned two new words today, "misandry", picked it up
> on another group.
>
> I should have known that one, considering some of the women I've
> been around.
Well, I did know that one, simply because of its counterpart,
"misogyny". Besides, there's an app for that. ;)
Actually, if you have an IOS device, and like words, "The Free
Dictionary" by Farlex has an addictive, daily "Word Match" that pops up
when its open and that has some doozies.
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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
On 3/21/2013 9:02 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:46:58 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Having lived every other place than the North, and not having heard the
>> term anywhere else, it was a legitimate question totally unworthy of your
>> unnecessary, out of left field snideness.
>
> Riiiiight! You haven't lived in Canada so if there's something you
> don't know, that presupposes that it's of Canadian origin.
Canada?? LOL
Hell, Bubba ... around here "North" could mean Dallas ... WTF is it with
this "Canada" shit?
> Sometimes Karl, you're so full of shit it's stifling.
Well, it arguably took a considerable pile of shit from you to
unilaterally introduce "Canada" into the discussion, eh?
>> Might want to try getting your panties untwisted and starting the day over
>> ... and not for the first time.
>
> Yup. Don't have to start anything over, I'm just fine.
Your above certainly doesn't sound like it ...
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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
On 3/21/2013 10:07 AM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Swingman" wrote:
>>> I first heard the term on the old Johnny Carson show.
>>
>> Well, there you go ... Iowa is indeed way "Northern" to this
>> coonass.
>>
>> Which begs the question ... how on earth did it come up on the
>> Carson show?
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Since Carson was from Nebraska, where is the Iowa fit?
Well, according to that font of unimpeachable knowledge/basis for all
baseless assumptions like we've seen here today, Carson was born in
Iowa, and moved to Nebraska when he was 8.
If it's on the Internet, it's gotta be true, right?
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On 3/21/2013 7:18 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:08:47 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Never heard that word in my life, and I haven't lived a sheltered life.
>> Must be Northern terminology?
>
> Hey! Don't throw your lack of knowledge on us. Apparently, its origin
> comes from an old French word~ European French, not even Quebec
> French.
Can you add something, other than your bibliobibuli Google barf above,
to the query about whether "aglet" is mostly regional in use?
<That's right, go ahead and Google that other word while you're at it>
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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
On 3/21/2013 10:08 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> Well, there you go ... Iowa is indeed way "Northern" to this coonass.
>>
>> Which begs the question ... how on earth did it come up on the Carson
>> show?
>>
> Jonny liked words. One of the reasons that he loved George Carlin.
> Carlin had whole routines just based on words. Anyway, Johnny would
> often ask, did you know the word for....? And he did ask the question
> about the little thing on the end of the shoe lace. In fact, I remember
> he asked that question a number of times.
Which would definitely indicate that it is indeed NOT a commonly used,
or well known, term.
I like words also, which is a reason why I remarked on it in the first
place, but I don't know that I would have even snapped to it if the
spelling wasn't so corrupted from the apparent French origin ...
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On 3/21/2013 9:31 AM, Nick wrote:
> I also have occasional problems with aiglets. I'm a rightpondian and have
> always known them as such. My dictionaries (both US and UK) do not show the
> word aglet. They both show aiglet, or aiguillette. Middle French meaning the
> METAL tag at the end of a shoelace or other lace.
>
> I'd not thought of heatshrink tube. I've always used a short piece of
> suitable metal tube crimped to the end of lace.
>
> Just my 2P's worth.
> Nick.
I know "aiguillette" as a small needle, but would never had made the
connection between that and a farking shoelace? :)
My bet is that without Google, there would be a lot more without a clue
in that regard if they would only be honest enough to admit it.
Most of us, who have more important things to do, leave the discussion
of shoelaces to little girls, shoe merchants, and ribbon clerks. <g>
Live and learn ... and be honest enough to admit that you do.
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KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
On 3/21/2013 9:53 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/21/2013 9:31 AM, Nick wrote:
>
>> I also have occasional problems with aiglets. I'm a rightpondian and have
>> always known them as such. My dictionaries (both US and UK) do not
>> show the
>> word aglet. They both show aiglet, or aiguillette. Middle French
>> meaning the
>> METAL tag at the end of a shoelace or other lace.
>>
>> I'd not thought of heatshrink tube. I've always used a short piece of
>> suitable metal tube crimped to the end of lace.
>>
>> Just my 2P's worth.
>> Nick.
>
> I know "aiguillette" as a small needle, but would never had made the
> connection between that and a farking shoelace? :)
>
> My bet is that without Google, there would be a lot more without a clue
> in that regard if they would only be honest enough to admit it.
>
> Most of us, who have more important things to do, leave the discussion
> of shoelaces to little girls, shoe merchants, and ribbon clerks. <g>
>
> Live and learn ... and be honest enough to admit that you do.
>
WTF is'a "ribbon clerk" LOL
"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:08:47 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Never heard that word in my life, and I haven't lived a sheltered life.
>>Must be Northern terminology?
>
> Hey! Don't throw your lack of knowledge on us. Apparently, its origin
> comes from an old French word~ European French, not even Quebec
> French.
I also have occasional problems with aiglets. I'm a rightpondian and have
always known them as such. My dictionaries (both US and UK) do not show the
word aglet. They both show aiglet, or aiguillette. Middle French meaning the
METAL tag at the end of a shoelace or other lace.
I'd not thought of heatshrink tube. I've always used a short piece of
suitable metal tube crimped to the end of lace.
Just my 2P's worth.
Nick.
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:44:42 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Really? No kidding?
>
><Watch those brilliant displays of logic there, Bill. Had to adjust the
>contrast on my monitor for that one>
You know what pisses people off and precipitates every argument you
get into? Every time someone disagrees with you, even in the slightest
form, your reply automatically includes some sort of insult ~ without
exception.
You're just too fucking arrogant to accept any explanation except your
own. That's why you're full of shit.
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>On 3/21/2013 6:55 PM, scritch wrote:
>> On 3/21/2013 6:48 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>
>>> I tried that years ago with Rockport shoe laces, the ends always
>>> prematurely failed. The problem with the heat shrink tubing is that it
>>> did not hold up as well as the original aglets.
>>>
>>> FWIW, I have found that the aglets on every pair of replacement shoe
>>> laces hold up well as long as they are not Rockport brand.
>>
>> But the heat-shrink is replaceable!
>
>
>Yes it is, and in my experience it not only is replaceable but has to be
>replaced more often than the originals. Basically, I choose to spend
>the $2 for a better pair of laces that break before the aglet does.
>
>It was a cool idea but I felt it was too much trouble to continue that
>cycle. YMMV
The heat shrink snags a bit when pulling the lace back out of the
eyelet during boot removal and eventually pulls off.
This works:
Slide a short (1/2") length of heat shrink a few inches down the
lace.
Work some black silicone sealer into the last 3/4" of the lace
fabric.
Slide the heat shrink to cover the end and shrink it down.
Let the silicone set up and trim the lace end to angle.
Eventually the heat shrink will come off, but now you have a flexible
rubbery end that does not snag or fray and will last the life of the
lace.
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:06:23 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>How does anyone get sensitive when talking about a fricking
>shoelace?
Real life troubles causing one to be in a bad mood?
That my guess.
Mark
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:08:47 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Never heard that word in my life, and I haven't lived a sheltered life.
>Must be Northern terminology?
Hey! Don't throw your lack of knowledge on us. Apparently, its origin
comes from an old French word~ European French, not even Quebec
French.
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:33:31 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Again, Dave ... it is _provably_ you, and ONLY you, who (foolishly and
>without provacation) introduced nationality into this discussion ...
>live with it.
And why shouldn't I? I gave you my reason for doing so ~ a very valid
reason as far as I'm concerned. Obviously, my reasons aren't valid as
far as you're concerned. That's *you're* problem, not mine.
This *IS* a multinational newsgroup no matter how you preface it. Live
with it.
On 3/21/2013 10:39 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:33:31 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Again, Dave ... it is _provably_ you, and ONLY you, who (foolishly and
>> without provacation) introduced nationality into this discussion ...
>> live with it.
>
> And why shouldn't I? I gave you my reason for doing so ~ a very valid
> reason as far as I'm concerned. Obviously, my reasons aren't valid as
> far as you're concerned. That's *you're* problem, not mine.
>
> This *IS* a multinational newsgroup no matter how you preface it. Live
> with it.
Once you start with assumptions, you gotta keep on justifying it with more.
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On 3/21/2013 9:42 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:29:07 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:46:58 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Having lived every other place than the North, and not having heard the
>>>> term anywhere else, it was a legitimate question totally unworthy of your
>>>> unnecessary, out of left field snideness.
>
>> Hell, Bubba ... around here "North" could mean Dallas ... WTF is it with
>> this "Canada" shit?
>
>> Well, it arguably took a considerable pile of shit from you to
>> unilaterally introduce "Canada" into the discussion, eh?
>
> Considering that Canada frequently is called the Great White North,
> AND considering that you just stated that you've lived everywhere
> else, the assumption that you were talking about Canada is not a big
> stretch at all.
>
> As I stated and very much amplified with every reply you come up with
> ~ You're full of shit. Keep digging, you're only covering yourself
> with more of it.
You, who just admitted above to making "assumptions", and proving the
old saying in doing so, now calling someone else full of shit?
Go figure ...
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On 3/21/2013 9:37 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> "Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 3/21/2013 8:17 AM, Dave wrote:
>>> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:53:45 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:08:47 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Never heard that word in my life, and I haven't lived a sheltered
>>>>>> life.
>>>>>> Must be Northern terminology?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey! Don't throw your lack of knowledge on us. Apparently, its origin
>>>>> comes from an old French word~ European French, not even Quebec
>>>>> French.
>>>>
>>>> Can you add something, other than your bibliobibuli Google barf above,
>>>> to the query about whether "aglet" is mostly regional in use?
>>>>
>>>> <That's right, go ahead and Google that other word while you're at it>
>>>
>>> Google barfed or not, you didn't know it so that automatically means
>>> it's Northern Terminology?
>>>
>>> Maybe I should just attribute your dispensing attitude to one born of
>>> Texas drawl.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Swingman is right! ;~) In Texas we commonly call the "aglet" that dam
>> little plastic thang on the end of the shoe lace that fails. ;~)
>
> I first heard the term on the old Johnny Carson show.
Well, there you go ... Iowa is indeed way "Northern" to this coonass.
Which begs the question ... how on earth did it come up on the Carson show?
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:53:45 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:08:47 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Never heard that word in my life, and I haven't lived a sheltered life.
>>> Must be Northern terminology?
>>
>> Hey! Don't throw your lack of knowledge on us. Apparently, its origin
>> comes from an old French word~ European French, not even Quebec
>> French.
>
>Can you add something, other than your bibliobibuli Google barf above,
>to the query about whether "aglet" is mostly regional in use?
>
><That's right, go ahead and Google that other word while you're at it>
Google barfed or not, you didn't know it so that automatically means
it's Northern Terminology?
Maybe I should just attribute your dispensing attitude to one born of
Texas drawl.
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:20:41 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Once you start with assumptions, you gotta keep on justifying it with more.
Actually, the problem was caused by you and your inability to specify
what northern area you were talking about.
You talked about something that was vague and expect everyone else to
automatically know what you were referring too. You live in an
amplified scale or arrogance.
Swingman wrote:
> "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:
>> "scritch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I don't know about you, but I think it's awful how some things are >
>>> definitely NOT better in this global market. One thing that has >
>>> deteriorated in the name of profit is aglets. They used to be made
>>> of > durable metal, and almost invariably outlasted the laces they
>>> were crimped > on to. Now, however, they are almost universally
>>> cheap plastic, and fall > apart before the shoelaces are barely
>>> worn.
>>>
>>> While this is not a problem for boots with hooks, my boots require
>>> that I > pull the laces through the eyelets every time I don or
>>> doff them, wearing > out the aglets in short order. But, I have
>>> discovered a cure! I got some > heat-shrink tubing and cut pieces
>>> just a bit longer than the aglets, and > shrank them up tight over
>>> the aglets, creating a much more durable, and > replaceable, aglet
>>> than the originals.
>>>
>> There ya go. I have lots of shrink tubing laying around and use it
>> for
>> all kinds of repairs. I never thought of aglet repair. And they
>> come in
>> bright colors too. So you won't have problems seeing them.
>>
>> And I do have aglet problems. Between two kittens and a puppy, the
>> only
>> shoes around here with aglets left were locked up in a closet during
>> their younger days. We had this one monster kitty who used to untie
>> my
>> shoelaces every time I sat down. It got to be downright dangerous
>> around
>> it. It got to such a monster, we got rid of her. Replaced it with a
>> kitten from a neighborhood cat and he was fine. By the time he
>> arrived,
>> all the aglets were gone!
>
> Never heard that word in my life, and I haven't lived a sheltered
> life. Must be Northern terminology?
Which word? Kitten? Puppy?
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On 3/21/13 8:52 AM, Leon wrote:
>
> Swingman is right! ;~) In Texas we commonly call the "aglet" that dam
> little plastic thang on the end of the shoe lace that fails. ;~)
I that was the term for what happens 9mos after an A&M co-ed gets
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On 3/21/13 10:58 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/21/2013 10:51 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 3/21/13 8:52 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>
>>> Swingman is right! ;~) In Texas we commonly call the "aglet" that dam
>>> little plastic thang on the end of the shoe lace that fails. ;~)
>>
>>
>> I that was the term for what happens 9mos after an A&M co-ed gets
>> pregnant.
>
> My initial thought also ... WTF does an aglet have to do with shoelaces??
>
> You are a product of your environment. :)
>
I don't know how I knew the word... perhaps my short lived attempt to
exercise my brain with crossword puzzles.
An easy test to determine if someone is into crossword puzzles is if
they know what and where "Ada" is. Being an Ohio native is a
disqualifier. :-)
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On 3/21/13 11:50 AM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>> An easy test to determine if someone is into crossword puzzles is if
>> they know what and where "Ada" is. Being an Ohio native is a
>> disqualifier.
> ---------------------------------------------
> Guess having actually been in Ada really disqualifies me.
>
> And no, I don't do crosswords.
>
>
> Lew
>
Yep. And you probably know how to pronounce Ashtabula.
I live there the first 30 years of my live and I still can't spell
Cuyahoga without looking it up.
Pierogi is the real qualifier. If you even know what it is, can spell
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Lee Michaels wrote:
>> Swingman is right! ;~) In Texas we commonly call the "aglet" that
>> dam little plastic thang on the end of the shoe lace that fails. ;~)
>
> I first heard the term on the old Johnny Carson show.
His show was a wealth of info. That's where I learned the word "philtrum"
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On 3/21/13 1:09 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "-MIKE-" wrote:
>
>> Yep. And you probably know how to pronounce Ashtabula.
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Yep,have also sailed in and out of Ashtabula many times.
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> I live there the first 30 years of my live and I still can't spell
>> Cuyahoga without looking it up.
> -------------------------------------------------------
> What part of Cleveland or should I say Cuyahoga County?
East suburbs... some in, most out of Cuyahoga.
Geauga mostly, some time in Summit and Portage counties.
I went to ten schools before graduating high school. :-)
> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Pierogi is the real qualifier. If you even know what it is, can
>> spell it, *and* have eaten them on occasion, you're a real Great
>> Laker.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Kraut, potato, various fruits, take your choice of fillings.
>
> Lots of sour cream on top.
>
> Could almost be sure they would be served on Friday.
>
> Lew
>
Crap Lew, now you got me craving.
There's only ONE real Jewish deli in all of Nashville and I don't think
they've ever served them.
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On 3/21/2013 2:31 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 3/21/13 1:09 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "-MIKE-" wrote:
>>
>>> Yep. And you probably know how to pronounce Ashtabula.
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> Yep,have also sailed in and out of Ashtabula many times.
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>> I live there the first 30 years of my live and I still can't spell
>>> Cuyahoga without looking it up.
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> What part of Cleveland or should I say Cuyahoga County?
>
> East suburbs... some in, most out of Cuyahoga.
> Geauga mostly, some time in Summit and Portage counties.
> I went to ten schools before graduating high school. :-)
>
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>> Pierogi is the real qualifier. If you even know what it is, can
>>> spell it, *and* have eaten them on occasion, you're a real Great
>>> Laker.
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> Kraut, potato, various fruits, take your choice of fillings.
>>
>> Lots of sour cream on top.
>>
>> Could almost be sure they would be served on Friday.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>
> Crap Lew, now you got me craving.
> There's only ONE real Jewish deli in all of Nashville and I don't think
> they've ever served them.
>
>
Is there a Polish place, they may have them as well.
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Swingman wrote:
> On 3/21/2013 7:18 AM, Dave wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:08:47 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Never heard that word in my life, and I haven't lived a sheltered life.
>>> Must be Northern terminology?
>>
>> Hey! Don't throw your lack of knowledge on us. Apparently, its origin
>> comes from an old French word~ European French, not even Quebec
>> French.
>
> Can you add something, other than your bibliobibuli Google barf above,
> to the query about whether "aglet" is mostly regional in use?
>
> <That's right, go ahead and Google that other word while you're at it>
>
It's only regional in those areas where most know what it means.
In areas where most do not know what it means, it is foreign.
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Swingman wrote:
> On 3/21/2013 10:08 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
>>>
>>> Well, there you go ... Iowa is indeed way "Northern" to this coonass.
>>>
>>> Which begs the question ... how on earth did it come up on the Carson
>>> show?
>>>
>> Jonny liked words. One of the reasons that he loved George Carlin.
>> Carlin had whole routines just based on words. Anyway, Johnny would
>> often ask, did you know the word for....? And he did ask the question
>> about the little thing on the end of the shoe lace. In fact, I remember
>> he asked that question a number of times.
>
> Which would definitely indicate that it is indeed NOT a commonly used,
> or well known, term.
>
> I like words also, which is a reason why I remarked on it in the first
> place, but I don't know that I would have even snapped to it if the
> spelling wasn't so corrupted from the apparent French origin ...
>
> Mercy Buckets ...
I was born in the US, New York in fact. There are American English words
that I have never heard of in my 75 years of life. Aglet was not one of
them. As I am an aficianado of crossword puzzles, I come across it quite
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On 3/21/2013 6:48 AM, Leon wrote:
>
> I tried that years ago with Rockport shoe laces, the ends always
> prematurely failed. The problem with the heat shrink tubing is that it
> did not hold up as well as the original aglets.
>
> FWIW, I have found that the aglets on every pair of replacement shoe
> laces hold up well as long as they are not Rockport brand.
But the heat-shrink is replaceable!
On 3/22/2013 1:06 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> I must be getting too old.
>
> I had no idea what an aglet was... didn't care. Never spent a day
> thinking about one. What caught me about this thread was that Karl
> makes an off handed innocent reference/guess to a region by direction
> when trying to find out what an aglet actually is or does, and panties
> knot so tightly that the thread generates more activity than those
> dedicated to wood working.
>
> I thought the original post was interesting and kind of fun, but I
> think now I don't want anything to do with aglets. It seems that it
> is a much hotter topic than I would have ever guessed it to be.
> Sadly, I am not well traveled and as a result I don't think too hard
> on regional references. I enjoy them. Around here, we laugh about
> our regional references, idioms and colloquialisms and get a kick out
> of something being "a Southern thing". A shortcoming on my part, no
> doubt. I will endeavor to be more watchful for regional or even area
> references in the future to make sure my Southerness isn't impugned.
>
> And I looked up "aglet". Although I have been wearing shoes and boots
> now for several years, I have decided from reading all of this that I
> don't see what the fuss is about when talking about "the plastic deal
> on the end of the laces that keeps them from unraveling".
>
> How does anyone get sensitive when talking about a fricking
> shoelace?
>
Exactly, I live in the same city as Dave, and I knew what an aglet was,
but I did not take any offense by Swingman's comments.
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "-MIKE-" wrote:
>
>> Crap Lew, now you got me craving.
>> There's only ONE real Jewish deli in all of Nashville and I don't
>> think they've ever served them.
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Don't feel like the Lone Ranger.
>
> Here in SoCal, almost impossible to find real deli rye bread.
>
> They are truly clueless when you ask for rye bread "with seeds".
>
> Lew
At least you can get pastrami. I wish Junior's would open a branch in
central Florida. They would have the bread, btw.
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-MIKE- wrote:
> Pierogi is the real qualifier. If you even know what it is, can spell
> it, *and* have eaten them on occasion, you're a real Great Laker. :-)
Hey! Pierogi is world renowned as one of the great culinary treats of all
time. Great Laker - rubbish. Knowing what they are and having eaten them
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Don't feel like the Lone Ranger.
>
> Here in SoCal, almost impossible to find real deli rye bread.
>
> They are truly clueless when you ask for rye bread "with seeds".
>
Yeah - what is it with this "seedless" rye bread thing? That's an oxymoron.
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Swingman wrote:
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> How does anyone get sensitive when talking about a fricking
>> shoelace?
>
> Over here in far East (Texas), that's a "farking" shoelace, Bubba!
> ;)
Bullshit - it's "them string things on yer boots"
Who in the hell wears them on cowboy boots anyway?
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On 3/21/2013 11:17 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 3/21/2013 9:53 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 3/21/2013 9:31 AM, Nick wrote:
>>
>>> I also have occasional problems with aiglets. I'm a rightpondian and
>>> have
>>> always known them as such. My dictionaries (both US and UK) do not
>>> show the
>>> word aglet. They both show aiglet, or aiguillette. Middle French
>>> meaning the
>>> METAL tag at the end of a shoelace or other lace.
>>>
>>> I'd not thought of heatshrink tube. I've always used a short piece of
>>> suitable metal tube crimped to the end of lace.
>>>
>>> Just my 2P's worth.
>>> Nick.
>>
>> I know "aiguillette" as a small needle, but would never had made the
>> connection between that and a farking shoelace? :)
>>
>> My bet is that without Google, there would be a lot more without a clue
>> in that regard if they would only be honest enough to admit it.
>>
>> Most of us, who have more important things to do, leave the discussion
>> of shoelaces to little girls, shoe merchants, and ribbon clerks. <g>
>>
>> Live and learn ... and be honest enough to admit that you do.
>>
>
>
> WTF is'a "ribbon clerk" LOL
An old poker playing term from my wasted youth ... derogatory, for
someone who continually and only bets small amounts.
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Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>On 3/21/2013 6:55 PM, scritch wrote:
>> On 3/21/2013 6:48 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>
>>> I tried that years ago with Rockport shoe laces, the ends always
>>> prematurely failed. The problem with the heat shrink tubing is that it
>>> did not hold up as well as the original aglets.
>>>
>>> FWIW, I have found that the aglets on every pair of replacement shoe
>>> laces hold up well as long as they are not Rockport brand.
>>
>> But the heat-shrink is replaceable!
>
>
>Yes it is, and in my experience it not only is replaceable but has to be
>replaced more often than the originals. Basically, I choose to spend
>the $2 for a better pair of laces that break before the aglet does.
>
>It was a cool idea but I felt it was too much trouble to continue that
>cycle. YMMV
The heat shrink snags a bit when pulling the lace back out of the
eyelet during boot removal and eventually pulls off.
This works:
Slide a short (1/2") length of heat shrink a few inches down the
lace.
Work some black silicone sealer into the last 3/4" of the lace
fabric.
Slide the heat shrink to cover the end and shrink it down.
Let the silicone set up and trim the lace end to angle.
Eventually the heat shrink will come off, but now you have a flexible
rubbery end that does not snag or fray and will last the life of the
lace.
On 3/20/2013 9:26 PM, scritch wrote:
> I don't know about you, but I think it's awful how some things are
> definitely NOT better in this global market. One thing that has
> deteriorated in the name of profit is aglets. They used to be made of
> durable metal, and almost invariably outlasted the laces they were
> crimped on to. Now, however, they are almost universally cheap plastic,
> and fall apart before the shoelaces are barely worn.
>
> While this is not a problem for boots with hooks, my boots require that
> I pull the laces through the eyelets every time I don or doff them,
> wearing out the aglets in short order. But, I have discovered a cure! I
> got some heat-shrink tubing and cut pieces just a bit longer than the
> aglets, and shrank them up tight over the aglets, creating a much more
> durable, and replaceable, aglet than the originals.
>
I tried that years ago with Rockport shoe laces, the ends always
prematurely failed. The problem with the heat shrink tubing is that it
did not hold up as well as the original aglets.
FWIW, I have found that the aglets on every pair of replacement shoe
laces hold up well as long as they are not Rockport brand.
On 3/21/2013 8:17 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:53:45 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:08:47 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Never heard that word in my life, and I haven't lived a sheltered life.
>>>> Must be Northern terminology?
>>>
>>> Hey! Don't throw your lack of knowledge on us. Apparently, its origin
>>> comes from an old French word~ European French, not even Quebec
>>> French.
>>
>> Can you add something, other than your bibliobibuli Google barf above,
>> to the query about whether "aglet" is mostly regional in use?
>>
>> <That's right, go ahead and Google that other word while you're at it>
>
> Google barfed or not, you didn't know it so that automatically means
> it's Northern Terminology?
>
> Maybe I should just attribute your dispensing attitude to one born of
> Texas drawl.
>
Swingman is right! ;~) In Texas we commonly call the "aglet" that dam
little plastic thang on the end of the shoe lace that fails. ;~)
On 3/21/2013 6:55 PM, scritch wrote:
> On 3/21/2013 6:48 AM, Leon wrote:
>>
>> I tried that years ago with Rockport shoe laces, the ends always
>> prematurely failed. The problem with the heat shrink tubing is that it
>> did not hold up as well as the original aglets.
>>
>> FWIW, I have found that the aglets on every pair of replacement shoe
>> laces hold up well as long as they are not Rockport brand.
>
> But the heat-shrink is replaceable!
Yes it is, and in my experience it not only is replaceable but has to be
replaced more often than the originals. Basically, I choose to spend
the $2 for a better pair of laces that break before the aglet does.
It was a cool idea but I felt it was too much trouble to continue that
cycle. YMMV
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:02:25 -0400, Dave wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:46:58 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Having lived every other place than the North, and not having heard the
>>term anywhere else, it was a legitimate question totally unworthy of your
>>unnecessary, out of left field snideness.
>
> Riiiiight! You haven't lived in Canada so if there's something you
> don't know, that presupposes that it's of Canadian origin.
>
Swing could have been referring to Dallas...
basilisk
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:26:11 -0700, scritch wrote:
> I don't know about you, but I think it's awful how some things are
> definitely NOT better in this global market. One thing that has
> deteriorated in the name of profit is aglets. They used to be made of
> durable metal, and almost invariably outlasted the laces they were
> crimped on to. Now, however, they are almost universally cheap plastic,
> and fall apart before the shoelaces are barely worn.
>
> While this is not a problem for boots with hooks, my boots require that
> I pull the laces through the eyelets every time I don or doff them,
> wearing out the aglets in short order. But, I have discovered a cure!
> I got some heat-shrink tubing and cut pieces just a bit longer than the
> aglets, and shrank them up tight over the aglets, creating a much more
> durable, and replaceable, aglet than the originals.
As you say this isn't a problem with hooks...
I like to buy boots with hooks, wear them a few wekks to get them
adjusted, tie the strings with a square knot and clip the excess.
They never come untied.
basilisk