I am soon going to embark on my next major project; namely, a pair of sofa
tables. Each is about 9' long, 16" wide; top frame and apron will be 2
1/2 - 3" wide, 3/4+-" thick. Space between the frames will have tile.
I want the frame and apron pieces to appear seamless so I'll make them from
adjacent pieces cut from the same board. The best way I know of to make
them appear seamless is by mitering the joining edges and there is (may be)
the problem...it is not easy to join miters perfectly especially such long
ones.
I'm thinking of cutting the miters, laying a frame and apron face up (miters
down) and taping them tightly together, flip, insert glue, fold together
(sort of like joining veneer pieces). I'll make some small ply clamping
squares to help keep them aligned and perpendicular to each other while the
glue sets.
Anyone see any problem in this? Know of a better way?
Thanks for your input.
On 8/10/2016 10:53 AM, dadiOH wrote:
> I am soon going to embark on my next major project; namely, a pair of sofa
> tables. Each is about 9' long, 16" wide; top frame and apron will be 2
> 1/2 - 3" wide, 3/4+-" thick. Space between the frames will have tile.
>
> I want the frame and apron pieces to appear seamless so I'll make them from
> adjacent pieces cut from the same board. The best way I know of to make
> them appear seamless is by mitering the joining edges and there is (may be)
> the problem...it is not easy to join miters perfectly especially such long
> ones.
>
> I'm thinking of cutting the miters, laying a frame and apron face up (miters
> down) and taping them tightly together, flip, insert glue, fold together
> (sort of like joining veneer pieces). I'll make some small ply clamping
> squares to help keep them aligned and perpendicular to each other while the
> glue sets.
>
> Anyone see any problem in this? Know of a better way?
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
>
I have often used tape to hinge them together.
--
Jeff
On 8/12/2016 6:19 PM, dadiOH wrote:
> "John McGaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 8/10/2016 10:53 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>>> I am soon going to embark on my next major project; namely, a pair of
>>> sofa
>>> tables. Each is about 9' long, 16" wide; top frame and apron will be 2
>>> 1/2 - 3" wide, 3/4+-" thick. Space between the frames will have tile.
>>>
>>> I want the frame and apron pieces to appear seamless so I'll make them
>>> from
>>> adjacent pieces cut from the same board. The best way I know of to make
>>> them appear seamless is by mitering the joining edges and there is (may
>>> be)
>>> the problem...it is not easy to join miters perfectly especially such
>>> long
>>> ones.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of cutting the miters, laying a frame and apron face up
>>> (miters
>>> down) and taping them tightly together, flip, insert glue, fold together
>>> (sort of like joining veneer pieces). I'll make some small ply clamping
>>> squares to help keep them aligned and perpendicular to each other while
>>> the
>>> glue sets.
>>>
>>> Anyone see any problem in this? Know of a better way?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>
>>>
>> I've done it similarly but never on such a scale -- at 20" square it gets
>> a bit unwieldy so I wouldn't want to try it in my shop with 9' stock. I'd
>> think that tightly-fitted splines inside the miters would make your life a
>> lot easier and the final result much stronger. Once the splines are good
>> there is little to go wrong as long as you keep the corners square as the
>> glue dries.
>
> Yeah, the length is what worries me. Splines would definitely help.
>
>
If you are concerned how to hold the miters together, I did this.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/24625309354/in/dateposted-public/
The piece that fits between the sides pieces and directly behind the
part that is moving, has pocket holes on the back side, you can't see
them but they reinforce and pull the miter closed, along with the glue.
"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 8/10/2016 9:53 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>> I am soon going to embark on my next major project; namely, a pair of
>> sofa
>> tables. Each is about 9' long, 16" wide; top frame and apron will be 2
>> 1/2 - 3" wide, 3/4+-" thick. Space between the frames will have tile.
>>
>> I want the frame and apron pieces to appear seamless so I'll make them
>> from
>> adjacent pieces cut from the same board. The best way I know of to make
>> them appear seamless is by mitering the joining edges and there is (may
>> be)
>> the problem...it is not easy to join miters perfectly especially such
>> long
>> ones.
>>
>> I'm thinking of cutting the miters, laying a frame and apron face up
>> (miters
>> down) and taping them tightly together, flip, insert glue, fold together
>> (sort of like joining veneer pieces). I'll make some small ply clamping
>> squares to help keep them aligned and perpendicular to each other while
>> the
>> glue sets.
>>
>> Anyone see any problem in this? Know of a better way?
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>>
>>
>
>
> In certain sections of the joints, from the same board, you end up loosing
> at least 1.5" if working with 3/4" material. So if the train is not
> straight the grain may not match up on the inside corners.
>
> The faces however will loose less and lool pretty good.
>
> You can actually form a full square wit hte grain matching all the way
> around.
> This involves starting with material that is a bit more than twice as
> thick as what yu will work with. You resaw down the middle and that sorta
> gives you two identical boards.
>
> If you understand this fine. Or I could find a reference.
I'm less concerned about the inside corners than I am the faces of frame and
apron and I understand it fine. Unfortunately, my lumber isn't thick enough
to resaw to 2 - 3/4" pieces. Of course, I could resaw to 1/4 or more and
laminate those to something else. Maybe. I'll think on it.
Thanks for your input, always appreciated.
"John McGaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 8/10/2016 10:53 AM, dadiOH wrote:
>> I am soon going to embark on my next major project; namely, a pair of
>> sofa
>> tables. Each is about 9' long, 16" wide; top frame and apron will be 2
>> 1/2 - 3" wide, 3/4+-" thick. Space between the frames will have tile.
>>
>> I want the frame and apron pieces to appear seamless so I'll make them
>> from
>> adjacent pieces cut from the same board. The best way I know of to make
>> them appear seamless is by mitering the joining edges and there is (may
>> be)
>> the problem...it is not easy to join miters perfectly especially such
>> long
>> ones.
>>
>> I'm thinking of cutting the miters, laying a frame and apron face up
>> (miters
>> down) and taping them tightly together, flip, insert glue, fold together
>> (sort of like joining veneer pieces). I'll make some small ply clamping
>> squares to help keep them aligned and perpendicular to each other while
>> the
>> glue sets.
>>
>> Anyone see any problem in this? Know of a better way?
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>>
>>
> I've done it similarly but never on such a scale -- at 20" square it gets
> a bit unwieldy so I wouldn't want to try it in my shop with 9' stock. I'd
> think that tightly-fitted splines inside the miters would make your life a
> lot easier and the final result much stronger. Once the splines are good
> there is little to go wrong as long as you keep the corners square as the
> glue dries.
Yeah, the length is what worries me. Splines would definitely help.
On 8/10/2016 10:53 AM, dadiOH wrote:
> I am soon going to embark on my next major project; namely, a pair of sofa
> tables. Each is about 9' long, 16" wide; top frame and apron will be 2
> 1/2 - 3" wide, 3/4+-" thick. Space between the frames will have tile.
>
> I want the frame and apron pieces to appear seamless so I'll make them from
> adjacent pieces cut from the same board. The best way I know of to make
> them appear seamless is by mitering the joining edges and there is (may be)
> the problem...it is not easy to join miters perfectly especially such long
> ones.
>
> I'm thinking of cutting the miters, laying a frame and apron face up (miters
> down) and taping them tightly together, flip, insert glue, fold together
> (sort of like joining veneer pieces). I'll make some small ply clamping
> squares to help keep them aligned and perpendicular to each other while the
> glue sets.
>
> Anyone see any problem in this? Know of a better way?
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
>
I've done it similarly but never on such a scale -- at 20" square it gets a
bit unwieldy so I wouldn't want to try it in my shop with 9' stock. I'd
think that tightly-fitted splines inside the miters would make your life a
lot easier and the final result much stronger. Once the splines are good
there is little to go wrong as long as you keep the corners square as the
glue dries.
On 8/10/2016 9:53 AM, dadiOH wrote:
> I am soon going to embark on my next major project; namely, a pair of sofa
> tables. Each is about 9' long, 16" wide; top frame and apron will be 2
> 1/2 - 3" wide, 3/4+-" thick. Space between the frames will have tile.
>
> I want the frame and apron pieces to appear seamless so I'll make them from
> adjacent pieces cut from the same board. The best way I know of to make
> them appear seamless is by mitering the joining edges and there is (may be)
> the problem...it is not easy to join miters perfectly especially such long
> ones.
>
> I'm thinking of cutting the miters, laying a frame and apron face up (miters
> down) and taping them tightly together, flip, insert glue, fold together
> (sort of like joining veneer pieces). I'll make some small ply clamping
> squares to help keep them aligned and perpendicular to each other while the
> glue sets.
>
> Anyone see any problem in this? Know of a better way?
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
>
In certain sections of the joints, from the same board, you end up
loosing at least 1.5" if working with 3/4" material. So if the train is
not straight the grain may not match up on the inside corners.
The faces however will loose less and lool pretty good.
You can actually form a full square wit hte grain matching all the way
around.
This involves starting with material that is a bit more than twice as
thick as what yu will work with. You resaw down the middle and that
sorta gives you two identical boards.
If you understand this fine. Or I could find a reference.