So...the other day SWMBO tells me for Christmas she has put aside $4000 for
me to get new tools. Now I need to figure out what to get. I'm hoping some
of the more experienced woodworkers here can help with suggestions.
I primarily build things like book cases, small cabinets, stuff like that. I
don't really do anything with fancy turning or scroll work. I would like to
build some new kitchen cabinets, chairs, table, entertainment center, stuff
like that.
Already have a good table saw, a few good routers, router table, router bits
(including door and panel sets), workbench, clamps, etc.
Was thinking of:
14" bandsaw
Floor standing drill press
Leigh dovetail jig
Leigh Frame Mortise and Tenon Jig
8.5" sliding mitre saw
K2000Pro
DW735 Planer
Couple of new Woodworker II blades and Chopmaster blades
Any thoughts of something else I should get - or substitute (if I run out of
money) for building mostly cabinet based stuff like I mentioned?
Thanks!
Are you kidding? I've never been married but even I know that there's no
expiry date on that statute of limitations.
"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> She may be setting you up, ten years from now when you need something
> she may look at you and say 'you should have thought of that when I gave
> you the $4,000'.
>
> Before accepting the money you may want to get a 'statute of
> limitations' on how long it can be held over your head.
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:58:39 -0500, "Milo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Ah...good idea. I'm trying to get those things that I most often say "man I
>wish I had a <???>". Been using the router table for a jointer and it does
>pretty good, but that is something I might use more than a bandsaw.
What about face jointing?
Barry
She handles the finances and likes to stash away as much as possible.
Frequently uses some of this to play around with day trading and the market
has been pretty good this year. Least that's her story ;).
\mj
"Myxylplyk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> IAMF- Where did that $4k come from? Found money?
>
> Myx
>
> "Myxylplyk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Milo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1068387099.689544@sj-nntpcache-5...
> > > So...the other day SWMBO tells me for Christmas she has put aside
$4000 for
> > > me to get new tools. Now I need to figure out what to get. I'm hoping
some
> > > of the more experienced woodworkers here can help with suggestions.
> > >
> > <snip>
> > >
> >
> > >
> > > 14" bandsaw
> > Good, but why not a 16 or 18"?
> >
> > > Floor standing drill press
> > Good
> >
> > > Leigh dovetail jig
> > Good idea, but if you needed it, you'd probably have one now.
> >
> > > Leigh Frame Mortise and Tenon Jig
> > Overpriced, neat looking, small production shop tool, not really
meant for hobbist
> > use. (Leigh likes all the sales though.) Wait for a few more years and
they'll start
> > turning up on ebay and othe want ads.
> >
> > > 8.5" sliding mitre saw
> > 8.5 is a good size, but for just a little more, depending on brand,
you get 10" and
> > more utility from the tool.
> >
> > > K2000Pro
> > Nice to have, but not essiential. Also in the price range that you
can stash away
> > small amounts for a short time and pick it up later.
> >
> > > DW735 Planer
> > Nice tool. a little pricey for the home shop unless you plan on
using it a lot. The
> > lower priced 734 is a solid machine too.
> >
> > > Couple of new Woodworker II blades and Chopmaster blades
> > Good idea. You can either buy 2 WWII, one to use and one to send to
Forrest to be
> > resharpened -or- buy lower priced but about equal blades to fill in
while sharpening
> the
> > WWII.
> > >
> >
> > The acquisition phase is a lot of fun, but often you end up with good
tools that you use
> > *very* seldomly. Go slow. Buy smart. Buy what you need, not so much
of what you want.
> >
> > Good luck - have fun!
> >
> > Myx
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Ah...good idea. I'm trying to get those things that I most often say "man I
wish I had a <???>". Been using the router table for a jointer and it does
pretty good, but that is something I might use more than a bandsaw. All I
can think of using the bandsaw for is resawing which I've done on the TS,
but only once in a while.
\mj
"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> why no jointer?
>
>
I'm pretty happy with my bench and it has a good vice and holes for dogs.
Hadn't thought of the plane, and I haven't used one in years, but there have
times I wished I had one.
Could also use some better chisels.
I'm really looking forward the the FMT Jig. I've been doing mine with the
TS, a small benchtop drill press, and some so-so chisels. Takes some time
and, with my lack of skill, lot's of "scrap" wood. Do like the square tenons
though.
Good ideas...thanks.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Milo writes:
>
> >
> >Already have a good table saw, a few good routers, router table, router
bits
> >(including door and panel sets), workbench, clamps, etc.
> >
> >Was thinking of:
> >
> >14" bandsaw
> >Floor standing drill press
> >Leigh dovetail jig
> >Leigh Frame Mortise and Tenon Jig
> >8.5" sliding mitre saw
> >K2000Pro
> >DW735 Planer
> >Couple of new Woodworker II blades and Chopmaster blades
>
> Counting tax, you're just about there. Give some thought to a couple hand
> planes for some areas of your work. I'd add the Veritas apron pocket plane
and
> their 4-1/2 to that, maybe. I'm not a neander, but I've found that having
a
> good plane around sometimes saves on the electric bill and the nerves both
when
> I don't have to get fancy with tool sets up. Not too long ago, another
member
> sent me onoe of E. C. Emmerich's little block planes and that's a great
tool,
> as well.
>
> If you ever decide to go with square tenons, you might want to think about
some
> good chisels to get rid of those round corners left by the Leigh M&T jig
(and
> that thing is a wonder: I saw it a year or so ago and had to marvel at how
easy
> it was to use and how well it did).
>
> Or how about a lot of yellow birch (much cheaper than maple) to build
yourself
> a workbench, to which you could then add a couple really good vises.
>
>
> Charlie Self
>
> "Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same
> function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy
state of
> things." Sir Winston Churchill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Will the remaining $5 pay for S&H?
\mj
"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> An autographed photo of yr hmbl srvnt: $3995. :-)
> Cash, certified check, or money order. You also get my gratitude.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn
>
> Milo wrote:
>
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> Amen.
>
Your comments give me pause...;)
\mj
"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Milo wrote:
>
> > So...the other day SWMBO tells me for Christmas she has put aside $4000
for
> > me to get new tools.
>
>
>
> I'm telling Wife how much you suck, she looks at me and reminds me how
> much I spent on tools (not to mention materials) in the last year or so.
>
>
> You still suk, just not as bad as I thought. ;]
>
>
> She may be setting you up, ten years from now when you need something
> she may look at you and say 'you should have thought of that when I gave
> you the $4,000'.
>
> Before accepting the money you may want to get a 'statute of
> limitations' on how long it can be held over your head.
>
> LOL!
>
>
> --
>
> Mark
>
> N.E. Ohio
>
>
> Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
> A.K.A. Mark Twain)
>
> When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
> suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)
>
Milo writes:
>
>Already have a good table saw, a few good routers, router table, router bits
>(including door and panel sets), workbench, clamps, etc.
>
>Was thinking of:
>
>14" bandsaw
>Floor standing drill press
>Leigh dovetail jig
>Leigh Frame Mortise and Tenon Jig
>8.5" sliding mitre saw
>K2000Pro
>DW735 Planer
>Couple of new Woodworker II blades and Chopmaster blades
Counting tax, you're just about there. Give some thought to a couple hand
planes for some areas of your work. I'd add the Veritas apron pocket plane and
their 4-1/2 to that, maybe. I'm not a neander, but I've found that having a
good plane around sometimes saves on the electric bill and the nerves both when
I don't have to get fancy with tool sets up. Not too long ago, another member
sent me onoe of E. C. Emmerich's little block planes and that's a great tool,
as well.
If you ever decide to go with square tenons, you might want to think about some
good chisels to get rid of those round corners left by the Leigh M&T jig (and
that thing is a wonder: I saw it a year or so ago and had to marvel at how easy
it was to use and how well it did).
Or how about a lot of yellow birch (much cheaper than maple) to build yourself
a workbench, to which you could then add a couple really good vises.
Charlie Self
"Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same
function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of
things." Sir Winston Churchill
Hell, Jo4n, for that price you can invite him to the islands for a visit and
have some change left for wood.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 9/21/03
"jo4hn" wrote in message
> An autographed photo of yr hmbl srvnt: $3995. :-)
> Cash, certified check, or money order. You also get my gratitude.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn
Four f*****g thousand dollars! You are married to one fine woman. Does
she have a sister?
"Milo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1068387099.689544@sj-nntpcache-5...
> So...the other day SWMBO tells me for Christmas she has put aside $4000
for
> me to get new tools. Now I need to figure out what to get. I'm hoping some
> of the more experienced woodworkers here can help with suggestions.
>
> I primarily build things like book cases, small cabinets, stuff like that.
I
> don't really do anything with fancy turning or scroll work. I would like
to
> build some new kitchen cabinets, chairs, table, entertainment center,
stuff
> like that.
>
> Already have a good table saw, a few good routers, router table, router
bits
> (including door and panel sets), workbench, clamps, etc.
>
> Was thinking of:
>
> 14" bandsaw
> Floor standing drill press
> Leigh dovetail jig
> Leigh Frame Mortise and Tenon Jig
> 8.5" sliding mitre saw
> K2000Pro
> DW735 Planer
> Couple of new Woodworker II blades and Chopmaster blades
>
> Any thoughts of something else I should get - or substitute (if I run out
of
> money) for building mostly cabinet based stuff like I mentioned?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
"Milo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1068387099.689544@sj-nntpcache-5...
> So...the other day SWMBO tells me for Christmas she has put aside $4000
for
> me to get new tools. Now I need to figure out what to get. I'm hoping some
> of the more experienced woodworkers here can help with suggestions.
>
> I primarily build things like book cases, small cabinets, stuff like that.
I
> don't really do anything with fancy turning or scroll work. I would like
to
> build some new kitchen cabinets, chairs, table, entertainment center,
stuff
> like that.
>
> Already have a good table saw, a few good routers, router table, router
bits
> (including door and panel sets), workbench, clamps, etc.
>
> Was thinking of:
>
> 14" bandsaw
> Floor standing drill press
> Leigh dovetail jig
> Leigh Frame Mortise and Tenon Jig
> 8.5" sliding mitre saw
> K2000Pro
> DW735 Planer
> Couple of new Woodworker II blades and Chopmaster blades
>
> Any thoughts of something else I should get - or substitute (if I run out
of
> money) for building mostly cabinet based stuff like I mentioned?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
Hey 'mano, you need a refrigerator & television for the shop. Sometimes when
I am making cabinets, pounding nails, I hit my dados de manos with the
hammer. It hurts. So then I stick my hand in the refrigerator and watch
Barney on the TV for a while. Sometimes I watch pinche Norm, with all those
neat tools. One day I am going to find his shop and steal them.
You Suck! I am Sooo jealous!
"Milo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1068387099.689544@sj-nntpcache-5...
> So...the other day SWMBO tells me for Christmas she has put aside $4000
for
> me to get new tools. Now I need to figure out what to get. I'm hoping some
> of the more experienced woodworkers here can help with suggestions.
>
> I primarily build things like book cases, small cabinets, stuff like that.
I
> don't really do anything with fancy turning or scroll work. I would like
to
> build some new kitchen cabinets, chairs, table, entertainment center,
stuff
> like that.
>
> Already have a good table saw, a few good routers, router table, router
bits
> (including door and panel sets), workbench, clamps, etc.
>
> Was thinking of:
>
> 14" bandsaw
> Floor standing drill press
> Leigh dovetail jig
> Leigh Frame Mortise and Tenon Jig
> 8.5" sliding mitre saw
> K2000Pro
> DW735 Planer
> Couple of new Woodworker II blades and Chopmaster blades
>
> Any thoughts of something else I should get - or substitute (if I run out
of
> money) for building mostly cabinet based stuff like I mentioned?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
Milo wrote:
> So...the other day SWMBO tells me for Christmas she has put aside $4000 for
> me to get new tools.
Yes, you do suck.
How about a 'Fridge for your brew?
--
Mark
N.E. Ohio
Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)
When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I think she told you she had $4,000
to spend on her dream man. You unfortunately assumed she meant you, but in
fact she's coming to live with me. Would you let her know to bring me a 14"
bandsaw (preferably a Laguna), and a DC with a cyclone. That'll only blow
$1500 and then I'm going to use the rest of the money on a little vacation
for the two of us.
To tell you the truth, I don't care what you get because I'm bummed it isn't
me... You suck, your wife sucks, your tools suck, and if you have a dog it
sucks too! Of course the pressure on you this Christmas is enormous.
Snicker, snicker, serves you right...
--
Larry C in Auburn, WA
"Milo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1068387099.689544@sj-nntpcache-5...
> So...the other day SWMBO tells me for Christmas she has put aside $4000
for
> me to get new tools. Now I need to figure out what to get. I'm hoping some
> of the more experienced woodworkers here can help with suggestions.
>
> I primarily build things like book cases, small cabinets, stuff like that.
I
> don't really do anything with fancy turning or scroll work. I would like
to
> build some new kitchen cabinets, chairs, table, entertainment center,
stuff
> like that.
>
> Already have a good table saw, a few good routers, router table, router
bits
> (including door and panel sets), workbench, clamps, etc.
>
> Was thinking of:
>
> 14" bandsaw
> Floor standing drill press
> Leigh dovetail jig
> Leigh Frame Mortise and Tenon Jig
> 8.5" sliding mitre saw
> K2000Pro
> DW735 Planer
> Couple of new Woodworker II blades and Chopmaster blades
>
> Any thoughts of something else I should get - or substitute (if I run out
of
> money) for building mostly cabinet based stuff like I mentioned?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:13:10 -0500, "Milo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>So...the other day SWMBO tells me for Christmas she has put aside $4000 for
>me to get new tools. Now I need to figure out what to get. I'm hoping some
>of the more experienced woodworkers here can help with suggestions.
>
>I primarily build things like book cases, small cabinets, stuff like that. I
>don't really do anything with fancy turning or scroll work. I would like to
>build some new kitchen cabinets, chairs, table, entertainment center, stuff
>like that.
>
>Already have a good table saw, a few good routers, router table, router bits
>(including door and panel sets), workbench, clamps, etc.
>
>Was thinking of:
>
>14" bandsaw
>Floor standing drill press
>Leigh dovetail jig
>Leigh Frame Mortise and Tenon Jig
>8.5" sliding mitre saw
>K2000Pro
>DW735 Planer
>Couple of new Woodworker II blades and Chopmaster blades
>
>Any thoughts of something else I should get - or substitute (if I run out of
>money) for building mostly cabinet based stuff like I mentioned?
>
>Thanks!
Brad/finish nailer.
Dust collector system
A nice, soft pillow...for your knees...
...so you can kneel down an' thank God for havin' a wife like THAT!!!
lol
Merry Christmas!
Have a nice week...
Trent
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!
Milo wrote:
> She handles the finances and likes to stash away as much as possible.
> Frequently uses some of this to play around with day trading and the
> market has been pretty good this year. Least that's her story ;).
Just as long as she's not one of those bored housewife call girls...
(Had to say something like that to spoil some of your fun, you lucky dog.)
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:58:39 -0500, "Milo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Ah...good idea. I'm trying to get those things that I most often say "man I
>wish I had a <???>". Been using the router table for a jointer and it does
>pretty good, but that is something I might use more than a bandsaw. All I
>can think of using the bandsaw for is resawing which I've done on the TS,
>but only once in a while.
>\mj
I think a bandsaw is definitely a luxury. But, after all...you DO
have the money for a luxury now! lol
Forgot from my previous list...
RotoZip...but WITH the ZipMate attachment.
Have a nice week...
Trent
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!
yobosaeyo wrote:
> You Suck! I am Sooo jealous!
Me too. Little armchair figuring and after seven years of shopdom, my total
comes to about $1500 in all. Nowhere close to $4,000, and he's getting
that in one big chunk! Yeesh.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:25:16 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I would put the money aside until you actually need one of those tools and
>then buy it.
>
or better yet. put it away till you find real good deals on tools.
more bang for the buck!!!! with 4 grand you can outfit a small shop
real nice if you wait for the deals to come. and they will come!! nice
to have the cash when they do. skeez
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:37:31 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Are you kidding? I've never been married but even I know that there's no
>expiry date on that statute of limitations.
I'm married to a woman who has _never_ held anything over my head in
15 years.
Then again, I've never lied about the cost of a tool, and she dosen't
hide new shoes in the car. We've always followed the credo that if
you can't pass the red face test, you shouldn't be doing in the first
place.
Sorry, guys.
Barry
Greg O wrote:
> Same with us, except we celibrated our 20 this spring. Never a comment on
> my purchases.
> Great woman, if see ever decided to see who has spent the most money over
> the years, I am screwed!
Yeah, me too, except half as long married.
She even spent her own share of the mad money this week to buy me a stupid
8' inflatable Santa thing for the yard, because I said I kind of wanted
one, but wasn't willing to pay $30 for the thing.
(I didn't have the heart to tell her that if she was going to spend her $30
on me anyway, I could have really used some more lumber. ;)
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 20:34:59 GMT, B a r r y B u r k e J r .
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 19:37:31 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Are you kidding? I've never been married but even I know that there's no
>>expiry date on that statute of limitations.
>
>I'm married to a woman who has _never_ held anything over my head in
>15 years.
>
>Then again, I've never lied about the cost of a tool, and she dosen't
>hide new shoes in the car. We've always followed the credo that if
>you can't pass the red face test, you shouldn't be doing in the first
>place.
>
>Sorry, guys.
>
>Barry
I'm with you, Barry.
My wife keeps bitchin' at me for bein' so cheap. She's always pushin'
me to go out and buy the tools that I keep sayin' I *HAFTA* have.
I guess it comes from eating lard and radish sandwiches when I was I
kid...when we were lucky to be able to eat THAT.
Have a nice week...
Trent
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity!
"Milo" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:1068387099.689544@sj-nntpcache-5...
> So...the other day SWMBO tells me for Christmas she has put aside $4000 for
> me to get new tools. Now I need to figure out what to get. I'm hoping some
> of the more experienced woodworkers here can help with suggestions.
>
<snip>
>
>
> 14" bandsaw
Good, but why not a 16 or 18"?
> Floor standing drill press
Good
> Leigh dovetail jig
Good idea, but if you needed it, you'd probably have one now.
> Leigh Frame Mortise and Tenon Jig
Overpriced, neat looking, small production shop tool, not really meant for hobbist
use. (Leigh likes all the sales though.) Wait for a few more years and they'll start
turning up on ebay and othe want ads.
> 8.5" sliding mitre saw
8.5 is a good size, but for just a little more, depending on brand, you get 10" and
more utility from the tool.
> K2000Pro
Nice to have, but not essiential. Also in the price range that you can stash away
small amounts for a short time and pick it up later.
> DW735 Planer
Nice tool. a little pricey for the home shop unless you plan on using it a lot. The
lower priced 734 is a solid machine too.
> Couple of new Woodworker II blades and Chopmaster blades
Good idea. You can either buy 2 WWII, one to use and one to send to Forrest to be
resharpened -or- buy lower priced but about equal blades to fill in while sharpening the
WWII.
>
The acquisition phase is a lot of fun, but often you end up with good tools that you use
*very* seldomly. Go slow. Buy smart. Buy what you need, not so much of what you want.
Good luck - have fun!
Myx
"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> >
> I'm married to a woman who has _never_ held anything over my head in
> 15 years.
>
> Then again, I've never lied about the cost of a tool, and she dosen't
> hide new shoes in the car. We've always followed the credo that if
> you can't pass the red face test, you shouldn't be doing in the first
> place.
>
> Sorry, guys.
>
> Barry
Same with us, except we celibrated our 20 this spring. Never a comment on my
purchases.
Great woman, if see ever decided to see who has spent the most money over
the years, I am screwed!
Greg
Milo wrote:
> So...the other day SWMBO tells me for Christmas she has put aside $4000 for
> me to get new tools.
I'm telling Wife how much you suck, she looks at me and reminds me how
much I spent on tools (not to mention materials) in the last year or so.
You still suk, just not as bad as I thought. ;]
She may be setting you up, ten years from now when you need something
she may look at you and say 'you should have thought of that when I gave
you the $4,000'.
Before accepting the money you may want to get a 'statute of
limitations' on how long it can be held over your head.
LOL!
--
Mark
N.E. Ohio
Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)
When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)
IAMF- Where did that $4k come from? Found money?
Myx
"Myxylplyk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Milo" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:1068387099.689544@sj-nntpcache-5...
> > So...the other day SWMBO tells me for Christmas she has put aside $4000 for
> > me to get new tools. Now I need to figure out what to get. I'm hoping some
> > of the more experienced woodworkers here can help with suggestions.
> >
> <snip>
> >
>
> >
> > 14" bandsaw
> Good, but why not a 16 or 18"?
>
> > Floor standing drill press
> Good
>
> > Leigh dovetail jig
> Good idea, but if you needed it, you'd probably have one now.
>
> > Leigh Frame Mortise and Tenon Jig
> Overpriced, neat looking, small production shop tool, not really meant for hobbist
> use. (Leigh likes all the sales though.) Wait for a few more years and they'll start
> turning up on ebay and othe want ads.
>
> > 8.5" sliding mitre saw
> 8.5 is a good size, but for just a little more, depending on brand, you get 10" and
> more utility from the tool.
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> > K2000Pro
> Nice to have, but not essiential. Also in the price range that you can stash away
> small amounts for a short time and pick it up later.
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> > DW735 Planer
> Nice tool. a little pricey for the home shop unless you plan on using it a lot. The
> lower priced 734 is a solid machine too.
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> > Couple of new Woodworker II blades and Chopmaster blades
> Good idea. You can either buy 2 WWII, one to use and one to send to Forrest to be
> resharpened -or- buy lower priced but about equal blades to fill in while sharpening
the
> WWII.
> >
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> The acquisition phase is a lot of fun, but often you end up with good tools that you use
> *very* seldomly. Go slow. Buy smart. Buy what you need, not so much of what you want.
>
> Good luck - have fun!
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> Myx
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