"Jim Weisgram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:52:37 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>I'm about to re-finish an exterior door. It has McCloskey spar varnish on
>>it.
>>I've "heard" that a phenolic/tung oil varnish would be the best finish but
>>I'm wondering what brands I might consider.
>>Any recommendations?
>>
>>Max
>
> From what I've studied (but have limited pracice), the key for
> exterior finishes is UV protection. UV damages the wood fibers over
> time, resulting in poor adhesion. So you want an exterior finish with
> UV inhibitors in them.
>
> After that, your finish should be relatively flexible, to accomodate
> the shrink/swell cycles from humidity and heat/cold.
>
> I have a Fine Woodworking article (May/June 2009) that tried various
> finishes and recommends Smith & Co Penetrating Epoxy Sealer, followed
> by Epiphanes varnish. Or just use the varnish. Either way, you use a
> lot of coats.
>
> From a Google search:
>
> http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=1269&familyName=Smiths+Cold+CPES+Epoxy
>
> http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=92
>
> Here's a version of Epiphanes with phenolic resins and tung oil.
>
> http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=93&familyName=Epifanes+Wood+Finish+Gloss+Varnish
>
Thank you kindly, Sir.
I will give it a try.
Max
"Jim Weisgram" wrote:
> Here's a version of Epiphanes with phenolic resins and tung oil.
>
> http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=93&familyName=Epifanes+Wood+Finish+Gloss+Varnish
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Epiphanes is the choice of the "woodie" crowd at almost any marina.
After 6-8 coats, you will have a decent base. <GRIN>
BTW, 3-4 base coats of laminating epoxy sanded between coats provides
a great base but no UV protection which is why the Epiphanes overcoat.
Lew
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Jim Weisgram" wrote:
>
>> Here's a version of Epiphanes with phenolic resins and tung oil.
>>
>> http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=93&familyName=Epifanes+Wood+Finish+Gloss+Varnish
>
> ----------------------------------
> Epiphanes is the choice of the "woodie" crowd at almost any marina.
>
> After 6-8 coats, you will have a decent base. <GRIN>
>
> BTW, 3-4 base coats of laminating epoxy sanded between coats provides a
> great base but no UV protection which is why the Epiphanes overcoat.
>
> Lew
>
>
Pshaw!! I don't want it to look like a bar top. ;-)
Max
"Lew Hodgett" wrote
>
> "Max" wrote:
>
>> Pshaw!! I don't want it to look like a bar top. ;-)
> -------------------------
> No problem, just figure a redo every 2nd-3rd year depending on amount of
> sun.
>
> Lew
2nd - 3rd year?? The stuff (McCloskey Spar varnish) that's on there is
about 6 years old and not so bad it couldn't go another year.
I was looking for something that would last a little longer. ;-)
Max
"Max" wrote:
> 2nd - 3rd year?? The stuff (McCloskey Spar varnish) that's on
> there is about 6 years old and not so bad it couldn't go another
> year.
> I was looking for something that would last a little longer. ;-)
--------------------------------
You've set the bar rather low if McCloskey Spar Varnish is almost
adequate. >GRIN>
Lew
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Max" wrote:
>
>> 2nd - 3rd year?? The stuff (McCloskey Spar varnish) that's on there is
>> about 6 years old and not so bad it couldn't go another year.
>> I was looking for something that would last a little longer. ;-)
> --------------------------------
> You've set the bar rather low if McCloskey Spar Varnish is almost
> adequate. >GRIN>
>
> Lew
>
>
Wellll, that's why I was askin' about a better product.
SWMBO says I did the McCloskey job in spring of 2003. (She say it was just
before we went to Michigan that year)
But here's the door now:
http://tinyurl.com/4h4p95s
Max
"Max" wrote:
> Wellll, that's why I was askin' about a better product.
>
> SWMBO says I did the McCloskey job in spring of 2003. (She say it
> was just before we went to Michigan that year)
> But here's the door now:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4h4p95s
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Appears to have weathered rather well.
If you're lookimg for something better, then after an epoxy base with
an Epiphanes top coat, it's all down hill.
Have fun.
Lew
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:21:30 -0700, Jim Weisgram
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Here's a version of Epiphanes with phenolic resins and tung oil.
>
>http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=93&familyName=Epifanes+Wood+Finish+Gloss+Varnish
Wow, I have to try some of that. It has the same ingredients as
Waterlox, but it costs half the price.
--
If the only prayer you ever say in your whole
life is "thank you," that would suffice.
-- Meister Eckhart
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:52:37 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I'm about to re-finish an exterior door. It has McCloskey spar varnish on
>it.
>I've "heard" that a phenolic/tung oil varnish would be the best finish but
>I'm wondering what brands I might consider.
>Any recommendations?
>
>Max
From what I've studied (but have limited pracice), the key for
exterior finishes is UV protection. UV damages the wood fibers over
time, resulting in poor adhesion. So you want an exterior finish with
UV inhibitors in them.
After that, your finish should be relatively flexible, to accomodate
the shrink/swell cycles from humidity and heat/cold.
I have a Fine Woodworking article (May/June 2009) that tried various
finishes and recommends Smith & Co Penetrating Epoxy Sealer, followed
by Epiphanes varnish. Or just use the varnish. Either way, you use a
lot of coats.
From a Google search:
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=1269&familyName=Smiths+Cold+CPES+Epoxy
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=92
Here's a version of Epiphanes with phenolic resins and tung oil.
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=93&familyName=Epifanes+Wood+Finish+Gloss+Varnish