Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

13/02/2011 1:05 PM

Kick back in the dick

Cross cutting 3/8" x 2" x 18" ply on the TS to get a little 2" x 2
3/4" piece. I used the miter guage to get a square cut but DID NOT do
a stop block on the fence as I should have so the cross cut piece
binded between the fence and shot me in the dick.

When I started working this morning, I said a little prayer because I
was using my shop equipment for construction work around the house.
When I am not so worried about precision I somehow also get lax on
safety. I needed the cross cut a little item. I had the TS spinning so
I just grabbed the miter guage because it was at hand. It is two steps
to my miter saw. I didn't setup a stop block as that would require a
clamp (3 steps away). The piece was 2 3/4" and I have a rule to always
use a hold-down push stick on anything 2" or less but I often use my
hand on anything larger.

I am kind of tall and when I stand at the TS my "package" is about 3"
above the top of the table. I never realized that until today. When
that sucker bound-up and shot at me, it twisted my thumb to the point
of making it numb like it had been hit with a hammer. I know it could
have easily pulled it into the blade. The 2" x 2 3/4" little piece of
ply whacked me right on the head of my d#$%. It dropped me to my
knees. I had to go into the bathoroom and check on that little guy and
I was 50% sure there would be stitches involved. I started to think
about the discussion with the emergency room staff.

Luckily it was just a painful whack.

I was stupid. I was lucky. I broke out my sled to recut the little
piece. I might buy a leather apron.


This topic has 29 replies

Mj

"Morgans"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

15/02/2011 5:03 AM


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "SonomaProducts.com" wrote:
>
>> Cross cutting 3/8" x 2" x 18" ply on the TS to get a little 2" x 2
>> 3/4" piece. I used the miter guage to get a square cut but DID NOT do
>> a stop block on the fence as I should have so the cross cut piece
>> binded between the fence and shot me in the dick.
> <Snip>
>
> I don't want to sound like a preacher, but WHERE was your PUSH BLOCK?
>
> Anything less than 5" wide doesn't go thru without one, at least that is
> the way I was taught.

Re-read the OP. The problem was that he pushed it through using a miter
gauge. The unsupported end was trapped between the blade and the rip fence,
which he used to get the correct length, lazily. When the unsupported
length tried to turn slightly at a diagonal between the blade and fence as
the last little bit of wood cut through, it did no longer fit between the
two, which caused the stick to become a dick homing missile.

I teach exactly that lesson as one of my top ten things to not do on a table
saw, and point out what part of your male anatomy will pay for
noncompliance,

That is one lesson that gets a 16 year old's attention. Every time. And it
will kick nearly every time that the width is greater than the length (along
the fence) by a factor of about 3 or more.
--
Jim in NC(teaching shop class)

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

15/02/2011 2:31 PM

> > A simple 2x4 about 12" long with about a 1/2" x 10"-11" notch cut in
> > both top and bottom with a band saw.
>
> > Neat and simple.
>
> > Functions I appreciate these days.
>
> > Lew- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I like the tubafor idea. Maybe make it similar to the other by using a
tubasix and scrolling in an uphandle.

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

14/02/2011 7:36 AM

On Feb 13, 4:32=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net> wrote:
> "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:b0ab16ab-21b9-4137-b735-b5b0f6f5221c@n16g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Cross cutting 3/8" x 2" x 18" ply on the TS to get a little 2" x 2
> > 3/4" piece. I used the miter guage to get a square cut but DID NOT do
> > a stop block on the fence as I should have so the cross cut piece
> > binded between the fence and shot me in the dick.
>
> > When I started working this morning, I said a little prayer because I
> > was using my shop equipment for construction work around the house.
> > When I am not so worried about precision I somehow also get lax on
> > safety. I needed the cross cut a little item. I had the TS spinning so
> > I just grabbed the miter guage because it was at hand. It is two steps
> > to my miter saw. I didn't setup a stop block as that would require a
> > clamp (3 steps away). The piece was 2 3/4" and I have a rule to always
> > use a hold-down push stick on anything 2" or less but I often use my
> > hand on anything larger.
>
> > I am kind of tall and when I stand at the TS my "package" is about 3"
> > above the top of the table. I never realized that until today. When
> > that sucker bound-up and shot at me, it twisted my thumb to the point
> > of making it numb like it had been hit with a hammer. I know it could
> > have easily pulled it into the blade. The 2" x 2 3/4" little piece of
> > ply whacked me right on the head of my d#$%. It dropped me to my
> > knees. I had to go into the bathoroom and check on that little guy and
> > I was 50% sure there would be stitches involved. I started to think
> > about the discussion with the emergency room staff.
>
> > Luckily it was just a painful whack.
>
> > I was stupid. I was lucky. I broke out my sled to recut the little
> > piece. =A0I might buy a leather apron.
>
> ------------------
> Yep, you were lucky.
>
> If you family jewels are in the line of fire, perhaps you should wear a c=
up.
>
> I am certain that you have reviewed all the ways that you could have done=
it
> differently. =A0Safety awareness (and practice) is a 24 hour a day thing.
> There is no good time to throw caution to the winds. =A0Any power tool (a=
nd
> many hand tools) have the capacity to cause extreme injury. =A0Do not tak=
e
> them lightly. =A0It doesn't take more than a minute to drastically change=
your
> life. =A0Take the time and do it right.
>
> Be careful, =A0Be safe. Your body and loved ones will thank you for the
> effort.
>
> <end of safety speech>

I am going to submit a design to the SawStop people. It elevates the
saw onto a platform and it will have a radar detection device which
will detect the reversal of stock motion and with an explosive charge
open up a trapdoor beneath the operator yanking him out of harm's way.
Ballistically, the speed of the backwards flying stock will probably
out-accellerate the dropping operator's body hitting him in the face
instead. At least his junk will be okay....maybe.

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

17/02/2011 5:30 PM

On Feb 13, 4:18=A0pm, "Josepi" <[email protected]> wrote:
> My brother in law used to wear a vest made from slats of 1 x 2 =A0or
> something like human ribs sewn into the vest for work on a commercial
> shaper. One day it happened and the shaper threw a blade at him. It didn'=
t
> quite cut completely through his human rib vest and possibly have saved h=
is
> life.

I've heard of people sticking phone books in their aprons
to act like body armor, but that'd make for a rather bulky
codpiece.

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

13/02/2011 4:32 PM



"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:b0ab16ab-21b9-4137-b735-b5b0f6f5221c@n16g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> Cross cutting 3/8" x 2" x 18" ply on the TS to get a little 2" x 2
> 3/4" piece. I used the miter guage to get a square cut but DID NOT do
> a stop block on the fence as I should have so the cross cut piece
> binded between the fence and shot me in the dick.
>
> When I started working this morning, I said a little prayer because I
> was using my shop equipment for construction work around the house.
> When I am not so worried about precision I somehow also get lax on
> safety. I needed the cross cut a little item. I had the TS spinning so
> I just grabbed the miter guage because it was at hand. It is two steps
> to my miter saw. I didn't setup a stop block as that would require a
> clamp (3 steps away). The piece was 2 3/4" and I have a rule to always
> use a hold-down push stick on anything 2" or less but I often use my
> hand on anything larger.
>
> I am kind of tall and when I stand at the TS my "package" is about 3"
> above the top of the table. I never realized that until today. When
> that sucker bound-up and shot at me, it twisted my thumb to the point
> of making it numb like it had been hit with a hammer. I know it could
> have easily pulled it into the blade. The 2" x 2 3/4" little piece of
> ply whacked me right on the head of my d#$%. It dropped me to my
> knees. I had to go into the bathoroom and check on that little guy and
> I was 50% sure there would be stitches involved. I started to think
> about the discussion with the emergency room staff.
>
> Luckily it was just a painful whack.
>
> I was stupid. I was lucky. I broke out my sled to recut the little
> piece. I might buy a leather apron.
------------------
Yep, you were lucky.

If you family jewels are in the line of fire, perhaps you should wear a cup.

I am certain that you have reviewed all the ways that you could have done it
differently. Safety awareness (and practice) is a 24 hour a day thing.
There is no good time to throw caution to the winds. Any power tool (and
many hand tools) have the capacity to cause extreme injury. Do not take
them lightly. It doesn't take more than a minute to drastically change your
life. Take the time and do it right.

Be careful, Be safe. Your body and loved ones will thank you for the
effort.

<end of safety speech>


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

13/02/2011 2:21 PM


"SonomaProducts.com" wrote:

> Cross cutting 3/8" x 2" x 18" ply on the TS to get a little 2" x 2
> 3/4" piece. I used the miter guage to get a square cut but DID NOT
> do
> a stop block on the fence as I should have so the cross cut piece
> binded between the fence and shot me in the dick.
<Snip>

I don't want to sound like a preacher, but WHERE was your PUSH BLOCK?

Anything less than 5" wide doesn't go thru without one, at least that
is the way I was taught.

Glad to see you are OK.

Take care.

Lew


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

15/02/2011 7:59 AM



"SonomaProducts.com" wrote:

>>> Cross cutting 3/8" x 2" x 18" ply on the TS to get a little 2" x 2
>>> 3/4" piece. I used the miter guage to get a square cut but DID NOT
>>> do
>>> a stop block on the fence as I should have so the cross cut piece
>>> binded between the fence and shot me in the dick.
>> <Snip>

--------------------------------
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:

>> I don't want to sound like a preacher, but WHERE was your PUSH
>> BLOCK?
>>
>> Anything less than 5" wide doesn't go thru without one, at least
>> that is the way I was taught.

---------------------------------

"Morgans" wrote:
>
> Re-read the OP. The problem was that he pushed it through using a
> miter gauge. The unsupported end was trapped between the blade and
> the rip fence, which he used to get the correct length, lazily.
> When the unsupported length tried to turn slightly at a diagonal
> between the blade and fence as the last little bit of wood cut
> through, it did no longer fit between the two, which caused the
> stick to become a dick homing missile.
>
> I teach exactly that lesson as one of my top ten things to not do on
> a table saw, and point out what part of your male anatomy will pay
> for noncompliance,
>
> That is one lesson that gets a 16 year old's attention. Every time.
> And it will kick nearly every time that the width is greater than
> the length (along the fence) by a factor of about 3 or more.
--------------------------------
I read and understood the problem first time around.

Use a push stick, potential problem never gets a chance to develop,
epsecially if you are going to reference against the fence without a
stop block.

Lew
.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

15/02/2011 10:35 AM


"SonomaProducts.com" wrote:

> I would agree somewhat but only if the push stick is of the type the
> has lots of top down pressure. I think even then it would be 10
> times
> safer to use a proper operation with no possibility of binding, as I
> will do forever from now on.
-----------------------------------------
> Useless push stick:
> http://www.craftsmanspace.com/free-projects/notched-push-stick-plan.html

"Useless" is being a tad generous IMHO.
----------------------------------------
> Useful push stick:
> http://www.sawdustalley.co.uk/workshop/Tools/push-stick-2.gif

Yep, good general configuration IMHO.
---------------------------------------------
Another one I like is the simple one shown on a WoodSmithShop episode.

A simple 2x4 about 12" long with about a 1/2" x 10"-11" notch cut in
both top and bottom with a band saw.

Neat and simple.

Functions I appreciate these days.

Lew

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

15/02/2011 10:55 AM

This URL shows how to make 2x4 push blocks shown on WoodSmithShop.

http://tinyurl.com/4rdaotd

Enjoy

Lew
---------------------------------------------
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "SonomaProducts.com" wrote:
>
>> I would agree somewhat but only if the push stick is of the type
>> the
>> has lots of top down pressure. I think even then it would be 10
>> times
>> safer to use a proper operation with no possibility of binding, as
>> I
>> will do forever from now on.
> -----------------------------------------
>> Useless push stick:
>> http://www.craftsmanspace.com/free-projects/notched-push-stick-plan.html
>
> "Useless" is being a tad generous IMHO.
> ----------------------------------------
>> Useful push stick:
>> http://www.sawdustalley.co.uk/workshop/Tools/push-stick-2.gif
>
> Yep, good general configuration IMHO.
> ---------------------------------------------
> Another one I like is the simple one shown on a WoodSmithShop
> episode.
>
> A simple 2x4 about 12" long with about a 1/2" x 10"-11" notch cut in
> both top and bottom with a band saw.
>
> Neat and simple.
>
> Functions I appreciate these days.
>
> Lew
>
>

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

15/02/2011 3:28 PM


"SonomaProducts.com" wrote:

> I like the tubafor idea. Maybe make it similar to the other by using
> a
> tubasix and scrolling in an uphandle.
----------------------------------
Personally I like the tubasix rather than the tubafor.

Probably not necessary, but helps reduce my pucker factor.

Neat, simple, SAFE and no handle needed.

SAFE works for me.

Lew


SS

Stuart

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

14/02/2011 3:05 PM

In article
<b0ab16ab-21b9-4137-b735-b5b0f6f5221c@n16g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
SonomaProducts.com <[email protected]> wrote:
> Luckily it was just a painful whack.

Makes my eyes water just to think about it.

--
Stuart Winsor

Midland RISC OS show - Sat July 9th 2011

SS

Stuart

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

14/02/2011 3:09 PM

In article <JUX5p.3168$%[email protected]>,
Josepi <[email protected]> wrote:
> My brother in law used to wear a vest made from slats of 1 x 2È or
> something like human ribs sewn into the vest for work on a commercial
> shaper. One day it happened and the shaper threw a blade at him. It
> didn't quite cut completely through his human rib vest and possibly
> have saved his life.

Maybe we'd all better go and buy ballistic vests!
(And cricket boxes)

Dunno if they come with CO2 alarms though :-)

--
Stuart Winsor

Midland RISC OS show - Sat July 9th 2011

SS

Stuart

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

14/02/2011 3:10 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Glad everything's ok with your Fes-Tool.

> "And be sure to call your doctor if you have an erection lasting more
> than four hours ..."

These days, at my age, I'd be happy if one lasted more than four minutes!

--
Stuart Winsor

Midland RISC OS show - Sat July 9th 2011

ZY

Zz Yzx

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

13/02/2011 5:33 PM

>Luckily it was just a painful whack.

Too bad you didn't need CPR:

http://supersexycpr.com/cpr.html

<<<<WARNING!! THe link takes you to a video of 2 very pretty young
women giving a CPR demo, in their skivvies>>>>

JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

13/02/2011 4:18 PM

My brother in law used to wear a vest made from slats of 1 x 2È or
something like human ribs sewn into the vest for work on a commercial
shaper. One day it happened and the shaper threw a blade at him. It didn't
quite cut completely through his human rib vest and possibly have saved his
life.


"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message
news:b0ab16ab-21b9-4137-b735-b5b0f6f5221c@n16g2000prc.googlegroups.com...

Cross cutting 3/8" x 2" x 18" ply on the TS to get a little 2" x 2
3/4" piece. I used the miter guage to get a square cut but DID NOT do
a stop block on the fence as I should have so the cross cut piece
binded between the fence and shot me in the dick.

When I started working this morning, I said a little prayer because I
was using my shop equipment for construction work around the house.
When I am not so worried about precision I somehow also get lax on
safety. I needed the cross cut a little item. I had the TS spinning so
I just grabbed the miter guage because it was at hand. It is two steps
to my miter saw. I didn't setup a stop block as that would require a
clamp (3 steps away). The piece was 2 3/4" and I have a rule to always
use a hold-down push stick on anything 2" or less but I often use my
hand on anything larger.

I am kind of tall and when I stand at the TS my "package" is about 3"
above the top of the table. I never realized that until today. When
that sucker bound-up and shot at me, it twisted my thumb to the point
of making it numb like it had been hit with a hammer. I know it could
have easily pulled it into the blade. The 2" x 2 3/4" little piece of
ply whacked me right on the head of my d#$%. It dropped me to my
knees. I had to go into the bathoroom and check on that little guy and
I was 50% sure there would be stitches involved. I started to think
about the discussion with the emergency room staff.

Luckily it was just a painful whack.

I was stupid. I was lucky. I broke out my sled to recut the little
piece. I might buy a leather apron.

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

13/02/2011 7:54 PM

I bought a leather welders apron at Harbor Freight this past fall.
I wasn't sure I would like wearing one, but I'll tell you.
I feel safer, I know where my pen and pencil are. And my tape measure.
This is heavy leather, and for $6.00 it has earned its keep.



On 2/13/2011 4:05 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
> Cross cutting 3/8" x 2" x 18" ply on the TS to get a little 2" x 2
> 3/4" piece. I used the miter guage to get a square cut but DID NOT do
> a stop block on the fence as I should have so the cross cut piece
> binded between the fence and shot me in the dick.
>
> When I started working this morning, I said a little prayer because I
> was using my shop equipment for construction work around the house.
> When I am not so worried about precision I somehow also get lax on
> safety. I needed the cross cut a little item. I had the TS spinning so
> I just grabbed the miter guage because it was at hand. It is two steps
> to my miter saw. I didn't setup a stop block as that would require a
> clamp (3 steps away). The piece was 2 3/4" and I have a rule to always
> use a hold-down push stick on anything 2" or less but I often use my
> hand on anything larger.
>
> I am kind of tall and when I stand at the TS my "package" is about 3"
> above the top of the table. I never realized that until today. When
> that sucker bound-up and shot at me, it twisted my thumb to the point
> of making it numb like it had been hit with a hammer. I know it could
> have easily pulled it into the blade. The 2" x 2 3/4" little piece of
> ply whacked me right on the head of my d#$%. It dropped me to my
> knees. I had to go into the bathoroom and check on that little guy and
> I was 50% sure there would be stitches involved. I started to think
> about the discussion with the emergency room staff.
>
> Luckily it was just a painful whack.
>
> I was stupid. I was lucky. I broke out my sled to recut the little
> piece. I might buy a leather apron.

Hn

Han

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

14/02/2011 5:52 PM

Stuart <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Glad everything's ok with your Fes-Tool.
>
>> "And be sure to call your doctor if you have an erection lasting more
>> than four hours ..."
>
> These days, at my age, I'd be happy if one lasted more than four minutes!

I'd say Amen, but that would be oversharing, so I'm not ...

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Sk

Swingman

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

14/02/2011 6:43 AM

On 2/13/2011 4:45 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 2/13/11 3:05 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>> Luckily it was just a painful whack.
>>
>> I was stupid. I was lucky. I broke out my sled to recut the little
>> piece. I might buy a leather apron.
>
> Glad everything's ok with your Fes-Tool.

"And be sure to call your doctor if you have an erection lasting more
than four hours ..."

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

17/02/2011 5:37 PM

On Feb 13, 4:05=A0pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cross cutting 3/8" x 2" x 18" ply on the TS to get a little 2" x 2
> 3/4" piece. I used the miter guage to get a square cut but DID NOT do
> a stop block on the fence as I should have so the cross cut piece
> binded between the fence and shot me in the dick.
>
> When I started working this morning, I said a little prayer because I
> was using my shop equipment for construction work around the house.
> When I am not so worried about precision I somehow also get lax on
> safety. I needed the cross cut a little item. I had the TS spinning so
> I just grabbed the miter guage because it was at hand. It is two steps
> to my miter saw. I didn't setup a stop block as that would require a
> clamp (3 steps away). The piece was 2 3/4" and I have a rule to always
> use a hold-down push stick on anything 2" or less but I often use my
> hand on anything larger.
>
> I am kind of tall and when I stand at the TS my "package" is about 3"
> above the top of the table. I never realized that until today. When
> that sucker bound-up and shot at me, it twisted my thumb to the point
> of making it numb like it had been hit with a hammer. I know it could
> have easily pulled it into the blade. The 2" x 2 3/4" little piece of
> ply whacked me right on the head of my d#$%. It dropped me to my
> knees. I had to go into the bathoroom and check on that little guy and
> I was 50% sure there would be stitches involved. I started to think
> about the discussion with the emergency room staff.
>
> Luckily it was just a painful whack.
>
> I was stupid. I was lucky. I broke out my sled to recut the little
> piece. =A0I might buy a leather apron.

Cut yourself a 1" wide block. Inset a couple of
HF supermagnets into the bottom. Stick it to your
saw cabinet when you're not using it.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

14/02/2011 10:59 PM

Swingman wrote:
> On 2/13/2011 4:45 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 2/13/11 3:05 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
>>> Luckily it was just a painful whack.
>>>
>>> I was stupid. I was lucky. I broke out my sled to recut the little
>>> piece. I might buy a leather apron.
>>
>> Glad everything's ok with your Fes-Tool.
>
> "And be sure to call your doctor if you have an erection lasting more
> than four hours ..."

Shit - if I had an erection that lasted four hours I'd be calling every
female I ever knew - including female doctors...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

15/02/2011 9:35 AM

> I read and understood the problem first time around.
>
> Use a push stick, potential problem never gets a chance to develop,
> epsecially if you are going to reference against the fence without a
> stop block.
>
> Lew
> .- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I would agree somewhat but only if the push stick is of the type the
has lots of top down pressure. I think even then it would be 10 times
safer to use a proper operation with no possibility of binding, as I
will do forever from now on.

Useless push stick: http://www.craftsmanspace.com/free-projects/notched-push-stick-plan.html

Useful push stick: http://www.sawdustalley.co.uk/workshop/Tools/push-stick-2.gif

SB

"Steve B"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

14/02/2011 4:59 PM


>>> "And be sure to call your doctor if you have an erection lasting more
>>> than four hours ..."

Most people would go to the Yellow Pages and look under "escorts". SEND
MORE GIRLS, THE LAST TWO JUST PASSED OUT!

Sorry, someone had to say it.....................

Steve

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

13/02/2011 4:45 PM

On 2/13/11 3:05 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
> Luckily it was just a painful whack.
>
> I was stupid. I was lucky. I broke out my sled to recut the little
> piece. I might buy a leather apron.

Glad everything's ok with your Fes-Tool.


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[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

14/02/2011 12:26 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Steve B" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Years ago, two morning on the edge type of deejays in Las Vegas named
>Johnson and Toffte (sp?) had a story on about a guy working in his shop. I
>think he had some belt drive devices, don't know if they were the large old
>leather strap, or vee belt.
>
>This guy shows up in the ER with an infected scrotum that was stapled
>together.
>
>The ER crew finally got the following story out of him.
>
>The machinery vibrated in certain frequencies and locations that would get
>him sexually aroused. One day, something got caught, and he was pulled into
>the mechanism. One of his testicles was amputated on the spot, and there
>was great hilarity by the deejays about squirrels looking for nuts in the
>attic, etc. They were reading this from the news. Anyway, this guy was so
>embarrassed, he repaired what he could with upholstery hog staples. It was
>after it got infected that he went to the ER.
[...]
>
>Anyone know of that story, or have it archived somewhere?

You have the details mostly right; Snopes has the full story:
http://www.snopes.com/risque/penile/scrotum.asp

LD

"Lobby Dosser"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

14/02/2011 8:03 PM

"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Feb 13, 4:32 pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net> wrote:
> "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:b0ab16ab-21b9-4137-b735-b5b0f6f5221c@n16g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Cross cutting 3/8" x 2" x 18" ply on the TS to get a little 2" x 2
> > 3/4" piece. I used the miter guage to get a square cut but DID NOT do
> > a stop block on the fence as I should have so the cross cut piece
> > binded between the fence and shot me in the dick.
>
> > When I started working this morning, I said a little prayer because I
> > was using my shop equipment for construction work around the house.
> > When I am not so worried about precision I somehow also get lax on
> > safety. I needed the cross cut a little item. I had the TS spinning so
> > I just grabbed the miter guage because it was at hand. It is two steps
> > to my miter saw. I didn't setup a stop block as that would require a
> > clamp (3 steps away). The piece was 2 3/4" and I have a rule to always
> > use a hold-down push stick on anything 2" or less but I often use my
> > hand on anything larger.
>
> > I am kind of tall and when I stand at the TS my "package" is about 3"
> > above the top of the table. I never realized that until today. When
> > that sucker bound-up and shot at me, it twisted my thumb to the point
> > of making it numb like it had been hit with a hammer. I know it could
> > have easily pulled it into the blade. The 2" x 2 3/4" little piece of
> > ply whacked me right on the head of my d#$%. It dropped me to my
> > knees. I had to go into the bathoroom and check on that little guy and
> > I was 50% sure there would be stitches involved. I started to think
> > about the discussion with the emergency room staff.
>
> > Luckily it was just a painful whack.
>
> > I was stupid. I was lucky. I broke out my sled to recut the little
> > piece. I might buy a leather apron.
>
> ------------------
> Yep, you were lucky.
>
> If you family jewels are in the line of fire, perhaps you should wear a
> cup.
>
> I am certain that you have reviewed all the ways that you could have done
> it
> differently. Safety awareness (and practice) is a 24 hour a day thing.
> There is no good time to throw caution to the winds. Any power tool (and
> many hand tools) have the capacity to cause extreme injury. Do not take
> them lightly. It doesn't take more than a minute to drastically change
> your
> life. Take the time and do it right.
>
> Be careful, Be safe. Your body and loved ones will thank you for the
> effort.
>
> <end of safety speech>

I am going to submit a design to the SawStop people. It elevates the
saw onto a platform and it will have a radar detection device which
will detect the reversal of stock motion and with an explosive charge
open up a trapdoor beneath the operator yanking him out of harm's way.
Ballistically, the speed of the backwards flying stock will probably
out-accellerate the dropping operator's body hitting him in the face
instead. At least his junk will be okay....maybe.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm short and quit using the Shopsmith as a table saw when a kick back
caught me right on the sternum. A Dracula Moment.

--
Ever wonder why doctors, dentists and lawyers have to Practice so much? Ever
wonder why you let them Practice on You?

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

13/02/2011 2:08 PM

On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:05:25 -0800 (PST), "SonomaProducts.com"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Cross cutting 3/8" x 2" x 18" ply on the TS to get a little 2" x 2
>3/4" piece. I used the miter guage to get a square cut but DID NOT do
>a stop block on the fence as I should have so the cross cut piece
>binded between the fence and shot me in the dick.
>
>When I started working this morning, I said a little prayer because I
>was using my shop equipment for construction work around the house.
>When I am not so worried about precision I somehow also get lax on
>safety. I needed the cross cut a little item. I had the TS spinning so
>I just grabbed the miter guage because it was at hand. It is two steps
>to my miter saw. I didn't setup a stop block as that would require a
>clamp (3 steps away). The piece was 2 3/4" and I have a rule to always
>use a hold-down push stick on anything 2" or less but I often use my
>hand on anything larger.
>
>I am kind of tall and when I stand at the TS my "package" is about 3"
>above the top of the table. I never realized that until today. When
>that sucker bound-up and shot at me, it twisted my thumb to the point
>of making it numb like it had been hit with a hammer. I know it could
>have easily pulled it into the blade. The 2" x 2 3/4" little piece of
>ply whacked me right on the head of my d#$%. It dropped me to my
>knees. I had to go into the bathoroom and check on that little guy and
>I was 50% sure there would be stitches involved. I started to think
>about the discussion with the emergency room staff.
>
>Luckily it was just a painful whack.

Whackin' your wood in the shop and then telling about it: priceless.


>I was stupid. I was lucky. I broke out my sled to recut the little
>piece. I might buy a leather apron.

Here ya go: http://tinyurl.com/6hcvrj8 A nice thick one.
It could save you a broken rib, too, if you's squattin' while
whackin', son.

P.S: Congrats on not needing stitches.

--
Remember, in an emergency, dial 1911.

JJ

"Josepi"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

15/02/2011 10:15 AM

SO leave the table saw work to the womenÉ


"Morgans" wrote in message news:%[email protected]...
Re-read the OP. The problem was that he pushed it through using a miter
gauge. The unsupported end was trapped between the blade and the rip fence,
which he used to get the correct length, lazily. When the unsupported
length tried to turn slightly at a diagonal between the blade and fence as
the last little bit of wood cut through, it did no longer fit between the
two, which caused the stick to become a dick homing missile.

I teach exactly that lesson as one of my top ten things to not do on a table
saw, and point out what part of your male anatomy will pay for
noncompliance,

That is one lesson that gets a 16 year old's attention. Every time. And it
will kick nearly every time that the width is greater than the length (along
the fence) by a factor of about 3 or more.
--
Jim in NC(teaching shop class)

Wc

"WW"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

13/02/2011 11:05 PM


"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:b0ab16ab-21b9-4137-b735-b5b0f6f5221c@n16g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> Cross cutting 3/8" x 2" x 18" ply on the TS to get a little 2" x 2
> 3/4" piece. I used the miter guage to get a square cut but DID NOT do
> a stop block on the fence as I should have so the cross cut piece
> binded between the fence and shot me in the dick.
>
> When I started working this morning, I said a little prayer because I
> was using my shop equipment for construction work around the house.
> When I am not so worried about precision I somehow also get lax on
> safety. I needed the cross cut a little item. I had the TS spinning so
> I just grabbed the miter guage because it was at hand. It is two steps
> to my miter saw. I didn't setup a stop block as that would require a
> clamp (3 steps away). The piece was 2 3/4" and I have a rule to always
> use a hold-down push stick on anything 2" or less but I often use my
> hand on anything larger.
>
> I am kind of tall and when I stand at the TS my "package" is about 3"
> above the top of the table. I never realized that until today. When
> that sucker bound-up and shot at me, it twisted my thumb to the point
> of making it numb like it had been hit with a hammer. I know it could
> have easily pulled it into the blade. The 2" x 2 3/4" little piece of
> ply whacked me right on the head of my d#$%. It dropped me to my
> knees. I had to go into the bathoroom and check on that little guy and
> I was 50% sure there would be stitches involved. I started to think
> about the discussion with the emergency room staff.
>
> Luckily it was just a painful whack.
>
> I was stupid. I was lucky. I broke out my sled to recut the little
> piece. I might buy a leather apron.

Better raise the saw up a bit. Extend the legs. (G) ww

SB

"Steve B"

in reply to "SonomaProducts.com" on 13/02/2011 1:05 PM

13/02/2011 9:36 PM


"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:b0ab16ab-21b9-4137-b735-b5b0f6f5221c@n16g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> Cross cutting 3/8" x 2" x 18" ply on the TS to get a little 2" x 2
> 3/4" piece. I used the miter guage to get a square cut but DID NOT do
> a stop block on the fence as I should have so the cross cut piece
> binded between the fence and shot me in the dick.
>
> When I started working this morning, I said a little prayer because I
> was using my shop equipment for construction work around the house.
> When I am not so worried about precision I somehow also get lax on
> safety. I needed the cross cut a little item. I had the TS spinning so
> I just grabbed the miter guage because it was at hand. It is two steps
> to my miter saw. I didn't setup a stop block as that would require a
> clamp (3 steps away). The piece was 2 3/4" and I have a rule to always
> use a hold-down push stick on anything 2" or less but I often use my
> hand on anything larger.
>
> I am kind of tall and when I stand at the TS my "package" is about 3"
> above the top of the table. I never realized that until today. When
> that sucker bound-up and shot at me, it twisted my thumb to the point
> of making it numb like it had been hit with a hammer. I know it could
> have easily pulled it into the blade. The 2" x 2 3/4" little piece of
> ply whacked me right on the head of my d#$%. It dropped me to my
> knees. I had to go into the bathoroom and check on that little guy and
> I was 50% sure there would be stitches involved. I started to think
> about the discussion with the emergency room staff.
>
> Luckily it was just a painful whack.
>
> I was stupid. I was lucky. I broke out my sled to recut the little
> piece. I might buy a leather apron.

Years ago, two morning on the edge type of deejays in Las Vegas named
Johnson and Toffte (sp?) had a story on about a guy working in his shop. I
think he had some belt drive devices, don't know if they were the large old
leather strap, or vee belt.

This guy shows up in the ER with an infected scrotum that was stapled
together.

The ER crew finally got the following story out of him.

The machinery vibrated in certain frequencies and locations that would get
him sexually aroused. One day, something got caught, and he was pulled into
the mechanism. One of his testicles was amputated on the spot, and there
was great hilarity by the deejays about squirrels looking for nuts in the
attic, etc. They were reading this from the news. Anyway, this guy was so
embarrassed, he repaired what he could with upholstery hog staples. It was
after it got infected that he went to the ER.

They used to do some hilarious stuff, but that was one of their best ones.
One time, they were SUPPOSEDLY going to drop a cat out of a helicopter in
the area of Hoover Dam to prove or disprove the theory of a cat always
landing on its feet. There was a real public outcry, I believe animal
rights groups and the feds got involved too, but they finally had to admit
that it was a hoax, albeit it a very good one. They finally gored a few too
many sacred cows, or got rich, and disappeared.

Anyone know of that story, or have it archived somewhere?

Steve


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