I stained some new unfinished oak with Minwax wood stain. I applied one coat
and it is dark enough. Then I planned to apply Minwax Indoor/Outdoor
Helmsman Spar Urethane on top of that. What I want is a durable but shiny
furniture-like surface that is water proof. The problem is that I put the
Minwax wood stain on very lightly over 24 hours ago and it is still damp...
when I press my hand on it hard it will stain my hand in some areas. Is it
OK to apply this Spar Urethane finish now? The can said 8 hours. Its been
24.
Rich wrote:
>
> I stained some new unfinished oak with Minwax wood stain. I applied one coat
> and it is dark enough. Then I planned to apply Minwax Indoor/Outdoor
> Helmsman Spar Urethane on top of that. What I want is a durable but shiny
> furniture-like surface that is water proof. The problem is that I put the
> Minwax wood stain on very lightly over 24 hours ago and it is still damp...
> when I press my hand on it hard it will stain my hand in some areas. Is it
> OK to apply this Spar Urethane finish now? The can said 8 hours. Its been
> 24.
Besides the other responses...
Oak is a very open-porous wood...particularly since you didn't wipe
excess off, the pores are holding fairly sizable reservoirs that are
very slow to completely dry and probably are being absorbed by the
surface as it dries as well...
A sanding sealer before staining will help in two ways--it will fill the
pores to minimize the difference in color (unless you really want that
porous look) and allow for a much smoother final finish coat as the
pores will be level w/ the surface after filling and the final buff
sanding...
Duane Bozarth wrote:
>> Rich wrote:
>> ...
>>> I think the problem is I'm doing this in my garage with no air
>>> circulation and it is very humid, been raining for the past 3 days.
>>
>> Think? :)
Tough going but you do have to consider weather - rain or high humidity -
when varnishing. Even if you were to get the thing varnished and dried
every time it rained or the humidity got high the varnish is supposed to
soften up, too.
Wait for dry weather. Do the varnishing in a dry heated place. I'm not
sure how much dust would be kicked up by a fan so maybe that wouldn't be a
great idea but you hafta have dry and relatively warm.
And I do try to remember to do a scrap or two with the same steps of
satin/varnish/shellac/whatever as the more important finished project. Then
I can test if going o to the next step is a good idea.
Josie
"Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> The MinWax Wood Finish can says "Remove excess stain with a clean cloth.".
> So does that mean the wood is still damp because I was supposed to wipe
> the
> stuff off?
>
> Is this right:
>
> 1. Apply a coat of stain to the wood
>
> 2. Wait 15 minutes and wipe excess stain off with something like an old
> t-shirt
>
> 3. Wait 8 hours, then use the Spar Urethane
>
> I guess I forgot step #2 ???
Wipe it down, paint it tomorrow. I used the Spar varnish on a couple of
outdoor rockers. Give them three coats and then one coat about every four
years.
"Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I stained some new unfinished oak with Minwax wood stain. I applied one
coat
> and it is dark enough. Then I planned to apply Minwax Indoor/Outdoor
> Helmsman Spar Urethane on top of that. What I want is a durable but shiny
> furniture-like surface that is water proof. The problem is that I put the
> Minwax wood stain on very lightly over 24 hours ago and it is still
damp...
> when I press my hand on it hard it will stain my hand in some areas. Is it
> OK to apply this Spar Urethane finish now? The can said 8 hours. Its been
> 24.
I must admit this is the first time I've stained wood. Its a good thing I
stained a small piece of test wood only. I haven't started on the main
project.
The MinWax Wood Finish can says "Remove excess stain with a clean cloth.".
So does that mean the wood is still damp because I was supposed to wipe the
stuff off?
Is this right:
1. Apply a coat of stain to the wood
2. Wait 15 minutes and wipe excess stain off with something like an old
t-shirt
3. Wait 8 hours, then use the Spar Urethane
I guess I forgot step #2 ???
"Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I stained some new unfinished oak with Minwax wood stain. I applied one
coat
> and it is dark enough. Then I planned to apply Minwax Indoor/Outdoor
> Helmsman Spar Urethane on top of that. What I want is a durable but shiny
> furniture-like surface that is water proof. The problem is that I put the
> Minwax wood stain on very lightly over 24 hours ago and it is still
damp...
> when I press my hand on it hard it will stain my hand in some areas. Is it
> OK to apply this Spar Urethane finish now? The can said 8 hours. Its been
> 24.
I think the problem is I'm doing this in my garage with no air circulation
and it is very humid, been raining for the past 3 days.
In article <TpZEd.716$_d4.123@fed1read05>, [email protected] says...
> I stained some new unfinished oak with Minwax wood stain. I applied one coat
> and it is dark enough. Then I planned to apply Minwax Indoor/Outdoor
> Helmsman Spar Urethane on top of that. What I want is a durable but shiny
> furniture-like surface that is water proof. The problem is that I put the
> Minwax wood stain on very lightly over 24 hours ago and it is still damp...
> when I press my hand on it hard it will stain my hand in some areas. Is it
> OK to apply this Spar Urethane finish now? The can said 8 hours. Its been
> 24.
>
>
>
Generally, when applying a finish to a like based stain, IE oil over
oil, with a brush one runs the risk of the thinner in the finish
weakening the binder in the stain and lifting the stain up into the
finish. An unpleasant sight.
If you stain isn't dry I'd advise not applying the finish just yet or
sealing it off with a one pound cut of de waxed shellac. For the
former, when the stain is dry, I'd still be careful not to over work the
first coat or two of finish in order to avoid lifting the stain.
If it has been twenty four hours and the stain isn't dry I would suspect
either a problem in either you application of the stain or the ambient
environment you have it curing in.
In any case, good luck.
--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods
[email protected]
www.heirloom-woods.net
When it says to wipe it off, you should do so. For one thing, it will help
even out the color. Other questions: what is the temperature? what is the
humidity? Read what the directions say.
Steve
"Rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> What kind of stain, oil or water? How did you apply it?
>>
>> Except occasionally for a gel stain, I have never had to wipe and have
> never
>> had it not dry in a few hours; but maybe you are using a stain I haven't
>> tried, or really splashed it on.
>>
>>
>
> The stain is oil based. I applied it with a foam brush, very lightly.
>
>
"toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> What kind of stain, oil or water? How did you apply it?
>
> Except occasionally for a gel stain, I have never had to wipe and have
never
> had it not dry in a few hours; but maybe you are using a stain I haven't
> tried, or really splashed it on.
>
>
The stain is oil based. I applied it with a foam brush, very lightly.