Made a 50 mile run to the nearest Woodcraft store
to get some Brusso knife hinges for the small
coopered doors cabinet I got carried away making.
These puppies ARE NOT CHEAP - $14-$20 a pair.
I couldnt go with just a single coopered door -
had to make a pair of doors. So this little
16W x 20H x6D wall cabinet for router bits is
going to have around $30 in just the knife hinges
- assuming I can install them correctly.
Foreseeing making some more boxes, I looked
at the wall rack full of hinges, searching for
a less expensive alternative to SOSS/Brusso
priced hinges.
Hmmm - barbed slot hinges. $2.50 a pair. Cut
slots, push the barbed leaves in the slot and
youre done. OK, so you have to chamfer the
hinged edges but thats a quick no brainer router
table operation. No mortising, no screw holes, no
stripped screws - what could be simpler?
I did mention that these things are only $2.50
a pair?
$14 to $20 a pair vs $2.50 a pair . . .
$7 to $10 per hinge vs $1.25 per hinge . . .
Oh, did I mention that these barbed hinges
require cutting the slots with a special
$20, diameter circular saw blade?
What about the $25 special arbor that
the special saw blade requires? Did you
know that the small, $20, saw blade does
only the small barbed hinges? The medium
barbed hinges require a different $20
saw blade?
So
two sets each of the small and medium
barbed hinges comes to
$10
PLUS
$65!
This is a slick marketing guys dream.
Hell, they could give you 4 pairs of
each of the hinge sizes and still make
money.
Now Ill have to do 100 barbed hinged
boxes to make this purchase cost
effective and get the actual hinge
set cost down to $2.57.
Ive gotta stop doing this.
Is there a tool junkie equivalent of AA?
If I stay clean maybe I can get a
30 days biscuit. I need a sponsor.
Volunteers?
charlie b
"Ray Aldridge" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:15:36 -0700, Gary DeWitt wrote:
>
> >> Stowe in his box-making book mentions using a trim saw bit in a router
> >> table to seat barbed hinges.
> >
> > A trim saw whaaat?! What's a trim saw bit?
>
> I'd like to know myself. According to Stowe, it's made by Bosch. It
> looks, in the photo, like a little circular saw blade on a 1/2" arbor,
> maybe 1 to 2 inches in diameter. He implies that it's for a drill press,
> but I can't seem to find an example in any of my catalogs.
>
Here's some on the web:
http://www.circlesaw.com/shoppingcart/catalog614_0.html
Expensive, though...
>Buttonhole McGee wrote:
>
> Hey Charlie, unless my brain fogger is on, you're a Bay Area guy, which
> means you had to tool up to Dublin(?).
That'd be the place. But it's a nice run in the little Miata, sun
shining,
wind blowing through where my hair use to be, engine purring and
eyes scanning for CHP. And, due to space limitations, I can't
acquire anything big or heavy (read: really expensive).
> Didja know you'll be able to get
> your crack / woodworking supplies and hardware in San Carlos
> instead?
> San Carlos (San Francisco Bay Area) Opening: 10/18/2004
> 1121 B Industrial Road
> San Carlos, CA 94070
> 650-631-WOOD
WoodCraft opening another store or are you talking about
Rockler? Rockler has a store around there already. They've
got a lot more hardware and hardware installation stuff.
Should've gone there for the knife hinges.
> I can't wait to take the tool-obsessed 2-year-old to check stuff out.
Always nice to have allies - strength in numbers when it
comes to dealing with SWMBO.
charlie b
Ray Aldridge wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:15:36 -0700, Gary DeWitt wrote:
>
> >> Stowe in his box-making book mentions using a trim saw bit in a router
> >> table to seat barbed hinges.
> >
> > A trim saw whaaat?! What's a trim saw bit?
>
> I'd like to know myself. According to Stowe, it's made by Bosch. It
> looks, in the photo, like a little circular saw blade on a 1/2" arbor,
> maybe 1 to 2 inches in diameter. He implies that it's for a drill press,
> but I can't seem to find an example in any of my catalogs.
WoodCraft has the arbor and the saw blades. Have posted
some pics in alt.binaries/pictures.woodworking.
After checking the prices on little saw blades that others
posted URLs to, I'm feeling a little better about paying
$20 for a 2 1/4" D, 0.025" kerf 60T saw blade.
I don't think I'd want to spin these things at 10K-28K rpms
in a router but they're not scary at all in a drill press on
its lowest speed. How one registers/aligns the cuts is
still a bit of a mystery but I'll figure it out eventually.
charlie b
ray <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 02:36:23 -0700, charlie b wrote:
>
> > Oh, did I mention that these barbed hinges
> > require cutting the slots with a special
> > $20, diameter circular saw blade?
>
> Stowe in his box-making book mentions using a trim saw bit in a router
> table to seat barbed hinges.
A trim saw whaaat?! What's a trim saw bit?
charlie b <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> That'd be the place. But it's a nice run in the little Miata, sun
> shining, wind blowing through where my hair use to be, engine purring and
> eyes scanning for CHP. And, due to space limitations, I can't
> acquire anything big or heavy (read: really expensive).
>
>> Didja know you'll be able to get
>> your crack / woodworking supplies and hardware in San Carlos
>> instead?
>> San Carlos (San Francisco Bay Area) Opening: 10/18/2004
>> 1121 B Industrial Road
>> San Carlos, CA 94070
>> 650-631-WOOD
>
> WoodCraft opening another store or are you talking about
> Rockler? Rockler has a store around there already. They've
> got a lot more hardware and hardware installation stuff.
> Should've gone there for the knife hinges.
The Rockler store that enables my habit is in Pleasant Hill, 20 more miles
up the road.
And the problem with your Miata theory is that Woodcraft stocks Lie-
Nielsen... They are also enablers.
When you find the group therapy that doesn't end up pushing me off the
wagon, then let me know. Most of them are more like "Ever seen one of
these?"
Patriarch
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:11:26 -0500, Ray Aldridge
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:15:36 -0700, Gary DeWitt wrote:
>
>>> Stowe in his box-making book mentions using a trim saw bit in a router
>>> table to seat barbed hinges.
>>
>> A trim saw whaaat?! What's a trim saw bit?
>
>I'd like to know myself. According to Stowe, it's made by Bosch. It
>looks, in the photo, like a little circular saw blade on a 1/2" arbor,
>maybe 1 to 2 inches in diameter. He implies that it's for a drill press,
>but I can't seem to find an example in any of my catalogs.
look in a machinery supply catalog for a slitter saw blade
Buttonhole McGee <[email protected]> writes:
>On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 02:36:23 -0700, charlie b wrote:
>
>> Made a 50 mile run to the nearest Woodcraft store
>>
>
>Hey Charlie, unless my brain fogger is on, you're a Bay Area guy, which
>means you had to tool up to Dublin(?). Didja know you'll be able to get
>your crack^H^H^H^H^H woodworking supplies and hardware in San Carlos
>instead?
>
>San Carlos (San Francisco Bay Area) Opening: 10/18/2004
>1121 B Industrial Road
>San Carlos, CA 94070
>650-631-WOOD
>
Way cool. Looks like it is by the Antique Trove. Two birds with one
stone!
scott
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 02:36:23 -0700, charlie b wrote:
> Made a 50 mile run to the nearest Woodcraft store
>
Hey Charlie, unless my brain fogger is on, you're a Bay Area guy, which
means you had to tool up to Dublin(?). Didja know you'll be able to get
your crack^H^H^H^H^H woodworking supplies and hardware in San Carlos
instead?
San Carlos (San Francisco Bay Area) Opening: 10/18/2004
1121 B Industrial Road
San Carlos, CA 94070
650-631-WOOD
I can't wait to take the tool-obsessed 2-year-old to check stuff out.
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:15:36 -0700, Gary DeWitt wrote:
>> Stowe in his box-making book mentions using a trim saw bit in a router
>> table to seat barbed hinges.
>
> A trim saw whaaat?! What's a trim saw bit?
I'd like to know myself. According to Stowe, it's made by Bosch. It
looks, in the photo, like a little circular saw blade on a 1/2" arbor,
maybe 1 to 2 inches in diameter. He implies that it's for a drill press,
but I can't seem to find an example in any of my catalogs.