"jo4hn" wrote:
> One of the Greek shows was Maggie's first. She was struck mostly by
> his ability to stand by the microphone and spin the Lake Woebegone
> yarns without notes. I now pick it up via the web from
> http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/
> which also gives the local weather for comparison with what I see
> outside my house. We get more snow here. Twitch.
====================================
Now I understand why you want to be in SoCal, but live in Minnesota
weather.
Son Of A Gun, You're homesick<grin>.
Lew
In article <[email protected]>, Lew Hodgett
<[email protected]> wrote:
> For those of you who are citizens of the USA.
>
> Hope you have taken a moment to remember why we have this day.
And for those of us who are not in the USA, our thanks.
--
Kiva - Loans that change lives.
http://www.kiva.org/lender/david87375440
On May 25, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> mac davis > wrote:
> > More and more, it's a day to reflect on those that died while in harms
> > way
> > and a
> > sort of guilt/joy combo that I didn't..
> > Damn, I've been out of the Army for over 40 years..
>
> > mac
>
> If my memory serves me correctly (and it's getting pretty old), on this
> day
> in 1951, I was in the Chorwon Valley, Korea.
>
> Max
>I was too young, but from tales of Marines I was stationed with, and
>from reading, every time I read of Korea, I think of winter and the
>Chosin Reservoir. Shivers and admiration. My best friend dropped me a
>note yesterday, saying he was lifting a stout drink in memory of the
>jarheads he knew who didn't make it back from 'Nam. I made my drink
>Coke, but made the same toast, to the jarheads I knew who missed the
>last 40 years.
We were near Unsan, N. Korea at about that time. It was miserable; the
cold penetrated your soul. It sapped your will.
I grew up in Michigan and I thank God I was at least familiar with extreme
cold.
In later years, when I read of the Marines at Chosin, I wondered if I could
have survived their ordeal.
Max (Glad to be "old")
On Mon, 25 May 2009 15:43:12 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
>If my memory serves me correctly (and it's getting pretty old), on this day
>in 1951, I was in the Chorwon Valley, Korea.
>
>Max
My guess is that on this day in '67 and '68 I was probably in 2 different rice
patties or forests in an "undisclosed location", usually because it was in Laos
or Cambodia and we weren't operating outside of Vietnam..
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
On May 25, 10:18=A0am, mac davis <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2009 23:36:56 GMT, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> w=
rote:
> >For those of you who are citizens of the USA.
>
> >Hope you have taken a moment to remember why we have this day.
>
> >Lew
>
> This is always a weird day for me..
> "Happy Memorial Day" seems like an oxymoron...
>
> More and more, it's a day to reflect on those that died while in harms wa=
y and a
> sort of guilt/joy combo that I didn't..
> Damn, I've been out of the Army for over 40 years..
>
> mac
>
> Please remove splinters before emailing
A couple of years ago, I celebrated my 50th anniversary of my
"release" from Parris Island. Where the hell does the time go?
My personal condolences to all those who lost loved ones to war, no
matter the war.
On May 24, 10:39=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Keith Nuttle wrote:
> > Lew Hodgett wrote:
> >> For those of you who are citizens of the USA.
>
> >> Hope you have taken a moment to remember why we have this day.
>
> >> Lew
>
> > After Gerrison Keillor cut down of the accomplishments of the US in the
> > songs he had on his program last night we will never listen to him
> > again. =A0It has been coming on for a long time, last night was the las=
t
> > straw.
>
> Gave up on the pompous prick years ago. Had to laugh at two musician
> friends, previously of his same basic persuasion, who were recently on
> his show (the "duo" thing) and came back in disbelief at the overtly
> shabby treatment they received, apparently simply because of the state
> they were from. IOW, they learned All is not so warm-fuzzy-touchy-feely
> as they had imagined the public persona to be.
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
I've never even heard of anyone who does the type of humor Keilor does
who isn't a blemish on mankind's butt. My ex-wife used to love his
stuff. I'd listen and scratch my head, wondering what was so funny
about condescension.
A year ago we decided to move back to rural Southeast Kansas. One of
the best decisions of our life. This morning we attended the local
Cemetery service. A simple mass was celebrated for the roof of a 100
year old stone tool shed in the middle of the cemetery. Within 200
yards there were graves dated from last week, back dating back to
civil war graves from the 1860's. At the end of the service a group
of local vets performed the same service they do every year. Most
wore blue jeans with the same uniform shirts they have worn for years,
and some had VFW caps. They represented WW II, Korea, Vietnam and
both desert conflicts. One Vietnam vet read a short poem-prayer and
the did the 21 gun salute with WW II era rifles. At the end of the
service the packed the rifles into the back of a pickup and solemnly
left for the next graveyard.
Arlington didn't do it any better.
RonB
On May 26, 5:09=A0pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On May 25, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > =A0mac davis > wrote:
> > > More and more, it's a day to reflect on those that died while in harm=
s
> > > way
> > > and a
> > > sort of guilt/joy combo that I didn't..
> > > Damn, I've been out of the Army for over 40 years..
>
> > > mac
>
> > If my memory serves me correctly (and it's getting pretty old), on this
> > day
> > in 1951, I was in the Chorwon Valley, Korea.
>
> > Max
> >I was too young, but from tales of Marines I was stationed with, and
> >from reading, every time I read of Korea, I think of winter and the
> >Chosin Reservoir. Shivers and admiration. My best friend dropped me a
> >note yesterday, saying he was lifting a stout drink in memory of the
> >jarheads he knew who didn't make it back from 'Nam. I made my drink
> >Coke, but made the same toast, to the jarheads I knew who missed the
> >last 40 years.
>
> We were near Unsan, N. Korea at about that time. =A0 It was miserable; th=
e
> cold penetrated your soul. It sapped your will.
> I grew up in Michigan and I thank God I was at least familiar with extrem=
e
> cold.
> In later years, when I read of the Marines at Chosin, I wondered if I cou=
ld
> have survived their ordeal.
>
> Max (Glad to be "old")
Me, too. As usual, that ordeal came about because of poor planning
higher up. Piss poor planning demands a step, or two, above perfect
performance from the military, time after time.
Probably the most important thing a Marine learns at Parris Island is
that you can do what you have to do if you don't quit. Those guys had
learned that lesson well.`
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "jo4hn" wrote:
>
>> Oh yeah. Speaking as a midwestern (Northern Minnesota) Lutheran, I
>> knew a lot of these people that he talks about, including several
>> Norwegian bachelor farmers.
>
> SFWIW, there are some from Minnesota of Norwegian extraction here on
> the wrec.
>
> >The song about the Lutheran Tuna Casserole is a
>> classic.
>
> Yep. A mental blank on this end. I refuse to eat the cat food in a can
> they try to pass off as tuna fish.
>
>> Arrogance? I don't see it but to each his own. I listen and I smile
>> as a lot of my upbringing is remembered.
>
> That makes two of us.
>
> By the way, assume you are aware, the PHC show will be aty the Greek
> in early June.
>
> It's almost a tradition.
>
> Lew
>
>
We've seen him at the Greek a couple of times but it's kinda hard to get
there from here. Also saw his show at a bank building in St.Paul in
1980 or 81 IIRC courtesy of one of my cousins. I could see we were
similar in our cornball approach to life.
One of the Greek shows was Maggie's first. She was struck mostly by his
ability to stand by the microphone and spin the Lake Woebegone yarns
without notes. I now pick it up via the web from
http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/
which also gives the local weather for comparison with what I see
outside my house. We get more snow here. Twitch.
mahalo,
jo4hn
Swingman wrote:
> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> For those of you who are citizens of the USA.
>>>
>>> Hope you have taken a moment to remember why we have this day.
>>>
>>> Lew
>>>
>>>
>> After Gerrison Keillor cut down of the accomplishments of the US in the
>> songs he had on his program last night we will never listen to him
>> again. It has been coming on for a long time, last night was the last
>> straw.
>
> Gave up on the pompous prick years ago. Had to laugh at two musician
> friends, previously of his same basic persuasion, who were recently on
> his show (the "duo" thing) and came back in disbelief at the overtly
> shabby treatment they received, apparently simply because of the state
> they were from. IOW, they learned All is not so warm-fuzzy-touchy-feely
> as they had imagined the public persona to be.
>
My brother gave me one of his books for Christmas several years ago. I
didn't make it past about 15 pages. To say he is arrogant and
condescending to those who don't share his views would be to understate the
vitriol in that tome. Kind of a between-the-lines message was that
his "Lake Woebegone" series is really intended to denigrate and belittle
those whom he is parodying.
--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough
jo4hn wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "Charlie Self" wrote:
>> ====================================
>> I've never even heard of anyone who does the type of humor Keilor does
>> who isn't a blemish on mankind's butt. My ex-wife used to love his
>> stuff. I'd listen and scratch my head, wondering what was so funny
>> about condescension.
>> ====================================
>>
>> To appreciate Keilor's deprecating humor, I'm convinced you need the
>> perspective of having grown up in the rural Midwest under the
>> influence of strong protestant church (probably Lutheran).
>>
>> First time I heard him was back in the mid 80's driving home from the
>> boat yard after a long day.
>>
>> His observations gave me more than a few chuckles since they brought
>> back memories of my childhood.
>>
>> His definition of Cream Of Mushroom Soup as "The glue that held the
>> Midwest together", is a classic.
>>
>> Still use Cream Of Mushroom Soup in many recipes learned from my
>> mother.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>>
> Oh yeah. Speaking as a midwestern (Northern Minnesota) Lutheran, I knew
> a lot of these people that he talks about, including several Norwegian
> bachelor farmers. The song about the Lutheran Tuna Casserole is a
> classic. Arrogance? I don't see it but to each his own. I listen and
> I smile as a lot of my upbringing is remembered.
> Norskie-ly yours,
> jo4hn
When I made my comment, I probably wasn't as clear as I could have been.
The arrogance doesn't really come out through his performance of the Lake
Woebegone bit -- it was really more revealed in his book. The Lake
Woebegone stuff can be somewhat funny, and as a Lutheran, I can see some of
the humor in a self-deprecating way. His writings were more revealing in
terms of his attitude in writing those bits. That wasn't so funny, it
bordered more on the ugly side. I can't quote anything specific, it's been
several years since I received his book and I can't locate it anymore.
--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:6c331552-17ba-465f-ba74-a958d2b1c5fb@h23g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
On May 25, 10:18 am, mac davis <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2009 23:36:56 GMT, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >For those of you who are citizens of the USA.
>
> >Hope you have taken a moment to remember why we have this day.
>
> >Lew
>
> This is always a weird day for me..
> "Happy Memorial Day" seems like an oxymoron...
>
> More and more, it's a day to reflect on those that died while in harms way
> and a
> sort of guilt/joy combo that I didn't..
> Damn, I've been out of the Army for over 40 years..
>
> mac
>
> Please remove splinters before emailing
>A couple of years ago, I celebrated my 50th anniversary of my
>"release" from Parris Island. Where the hell does the time go?
>My personal condolences to all those who lost loved ones to war, no
>matter the war.
If my memory serves me correctly (and it's getting pretty old), on this day
in 1951, I was in the Chorwon Valley, Korea.
Max
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in news:sSkSl.372$Cc1.322
@nwrddc01.gnilink.net:
> For those of you who are citizens of the USA.
>
> Hope you have taken a moment to remember why we have this day.
>
> Lew
As often mentioned here, I was born in Holland and we are eternally
grateful for liberating us from the German occupation. Thus, Memorial Day
has special meaning for our family. I also should mention that I work in a
Veterans Administration Hospital, although I have no direct patient
contact. Most likely I will watch the local Memorial Day parade tomorrow,
as I have many in the past.
Thanks to all inside and out of the services who have made sacrifices of
all kinds to allow the world the freedoms we cherish. I hope that those
freedoms will become even more universal than they are today. I also hope
those freedoms will continue to include the freedom to criticize, for
without that freedom has no meaning (IMNSHO).
--
Best regards
Han
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
> For those of you who are citizens of the USA.
>
> Hope you have taken a moment to remember why we have this day.
>
> Lew
>
>
After Gerrison Keillor cut down of the accomplishments of the US in the
songs he had on his program last night we will never listen to him
again. It has been coming on for a long time, last night was the last
straw.
For most of today we watched a bunch of war movies on TV. Watched the
opening ceremonies and parts of the race at Charlotte before the rain
and am watching the Indy 500 from opening to the end tonight.
(Indianapolis is blacked out)
The B-26 bombers came right across our house, a very impressive site.
On May 25, 9:44=A0pm, Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
> jo4hn wrote:
> > Lew Hodgett wrote:
> >> "Charlie Self" wrote:
> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >> I've never even heard of anyone who does the type of humor Keilor does
> >> who isn't a blemish on mankind's butt. My ex-wife used to love his
> >> stuff. I'd listen and scratch my head, wondering what was so funny
> >> about condescension.
> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> >> To appreciate Keilor's deprecating humor, I'm convinced you need the
> >> perspective of having grown up in the rural Midwest under the
> >> influence of =A0strong protestant church (probably Lutheran).
>
> >> First time I heard him was back in the mid 80's driving home from the
> >> boat yard after a long day.
>
> >> His observations gave me more than a few chuckles since they brought
> >> back memories of my childhood.
>
> >> His definition of Cream Of Mushroom Soup as "The glue that held the
> >> Midwest together", is a classic.
>
> >> Still use Cream Of Mushroom Soup =A0in many recipes learned from my
> >> mother.
>
> >> Lew
>
> > Oh yeah. =A0Speaking as a midwestern (Northern Minnesota) Lutheran, I k=
new
> > a lot of these people that he talks about, including several Norwegian
> > bachelor farmers. =A0The song about the Lutheran Tuna Casserole is a
> > classic. =A0Arrogance? =A0I don't see it but to each his own. =A0I list=
en and
> > I smile as a lot of my upbringing is remembered.
> > Norskie-ly yours,
> > jo4hn
>
> =A0 When I made my comment, I probably wasn't as clear as I could have be=
en.
> The arrogance doesn't really come out through his performance of the Lake
> Woebegone bit -- it was really more revealed in his book. =A0The Lake
> Woebegone stuff can be somewhat funny, and as a Lutheran, I can see some =
of
> the humor in a self-deprecating way. =A0His writings were more revealing =
in
> terms of his attitude in writing those bits. =A0That wasn't so funny, it
> bordered more on the ugly side. =A0I can't quote anything specific, it's =
been
> several years since I received his book and I can't locate it anymore.
>
> --
> If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough
Self-deprecating is fine. Maybe it's a midwest thing, because I was
brought in as a Baptist, in the East, with trips to Mom's home state,
Virginia, to leaven the mix. Though my mother wasn't a true believer
(she though all religions were mostly BS, with Judaism being the
closest to sanity), I had innumerable aunts and uncles who were. A few
still are. But self-deprecating and condescension differ primarily in
the presenter. Keilor often brought a shameful chuckle, but the
feeling was that he was making fun of people for whom he had little
respect, but some affection.
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:17:32 -0500, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>mac davis wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 May 2009 15:43:12 -0600, "Max"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> If my memory serves me correctly (and it's getting pretty old), on
>>> this day in 1951, I was in the Chorwon Valley, Korea.
>>>
>>> Max
>>
>> My guess is that on this day in '67 and '68 I was probably in 2
>> different rice patties or forests in an "undisclosed location",
>> usually because it was in Laos or Cambodia and we weren't operating
>> outside of Vietnam..
>>
>
>Do you still have the hat?
>
Hat???
Didn't even get a friggin' t-shirt...
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
"Charlie Self" wrote:
====================================
I've never even heard of anyone who does the type of humor Keilor does
who isn't a blemish on mankind's butt. My ex-wife used to love his
stuff. I'd listen and scratch my head, wondering what was so funny
about condescension.
====================================
To appreciate Keilor's deprecating humor, I'm convinced you need the
perspective of having grown up in the rural Midwest under the
influence of strong protestant church (probably Lutheran).
First time I heard him was back in the mid 80's driving home from the
boat yard after a long day.
His observations gave me more than a few chuckles since they brought
back memories of my childhood.
His definition of Cream Of Mushroom Soup as "The glue that held the
Midwest together", is a classic.
Still use Cream Of Mushroom Soup in many recipes learned from my
mother.
Lew
On May 25, 5:43=A0pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:6c331552-17ba-465f-ba74-a958d2b1c5fb@h23g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
> On May 25, 10:18 am, mac davis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 24 May 2009 23:36:56 GMT, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >For those of you who are citizens of the USA.
>
> > >Hope you have taken a moment to remember why we have this day.
>
> > >Lew
>
> > This is always a weird day for me..
> > "Happy Memorial Day" seems like an oxymoron...
>
> > More and more, it's a day to reflect on those that died while in harms =
way
> > and a
> > sort of guilt/joy combo that I didn't..
> > Damn, I've been out of the Army for over 40 years..
>
> > mac
>
> > Please remove splinters before emailing
> >A couple of years ago, I celebrated my 50th anniversary of my
> >"release" from Parris Island. =A0Where the hell does the time go?
> >My personal condolences to all those who lost loved ones to war, no
> >matter the war.
>
> If my memory serves me correctly (and it's getting pretty old), on this d=
ay
> in 1951, I was in the Chorwon Valley, Korea.
>
> Max
I was too young, but from tales of Marines I was stationed with, and
from reading, every time I read of Korea, I think of winter and the
Chosin Reservoir. Shivers and admiration. My best friend dropped me a
note yesterday, saying he was lifting a stout drink in memory of the
jarheads he knew who didn't make it back from 'Nam. I made my drink
Coke, but made the same toast, to the jarheads I knew who missed the
last 40 years.
On Sun, 24 May 2009 23:36:56 GMT, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>For those of you who are citizens of the USA.
>
>Hope you have taken a moment to remember why we have this day.
>
>Lew
>
This is always a weird day for me..
"Happy Memorial Day" seems like an oxymoron...
More and more, it's a day to reflect on those that died while in harms way and a
sort of guilt/joy combo that I didn't..
Damn, I've been out of the Army for over 40 years..
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
"jo4hn" wrote:
> Oh yeah. Speaking as a midwestern (Northern Minnesota) Lutheran, I
> knew a lot of these people that he talks about, including several
> Norwegian bachelor farmers.
SFWIW, there are some from Minnesota of Norwegian extraction here on
the wrec.
>The song about the Lutheran Tuna Casserole is a
> classic.
Yep. A mental blank on this end. I refuse to eat the cat food in a can
they try to pass off as tuna fish.
>Arrogance? I don't see it but to each his own. I listen and I smile
>as a lot of my upbringing is remembered.
That makes two of us.
By the way, assume you are aware, the PHC show will be aty the Greek
in early June.
It's almost a tradition.
Lew
mac davis wrote:
> On Mon, 25 May 2009 15:43:12 -0600, "Max"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If my memory serves me correctly (and it's getting pretty old), on
>> this day in 1951, I was in the Chorwon Valley, Korea.
>>
>> Max
>
> My guess is that on this day in '67 and '68 I was probably in 2
> different rice patties or forests in an "undisclosed location",
> usually because it was in Laos or Cambodia and we weren't operating
> outside of Vietnam..
>
Do you still have the hat?
On Sun, 24 May 2009 23:36:56 GMT, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>For those of you who are citizens of the USA.
>
>Hope you have taken a moment to remember why we have this day.
>
>Lew
>
I've had reason to remember most of my life:
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-256639
CNN picked this one and 9 others that are running as a bridge to
commercials on CNN through Monday
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/05/22/memorial.day.irpt/index.html
John
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Charlie Self" wrote:
> ====================================
> I've never even heard of anyone who does the type of humor Keilor does
> who isn't a blemish on mankind's butt. My ex-wife used to love his
> stuff. I'd listen and scratch my head, wondering what was so funny
> about condescension.
> ====================================
>
> To appreciate Keilor's deprecating humor, I'm convinced you need the
> perspective of having grown up in the rural Midwest under the
> influence of strong protestant church (probably Lutheran).
>
> First time I heard him was back in the mid 80's driving home from the
> boat yard after a long day.
>
> His observations gave me more than a few chuckles since they brought
> back memories of my childhood.
>
> His definition of Cream Of Mushroom Soup as "The glue that held the
> Midwest together", is a classic.
>
> Still use Cream Of Mushroom Soup in many recipes learned from my
> mother.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
Oh yeah. Speaking as a midwestern (Northern Minnesota) Lutheran, I knew
a lot of these people that he talks about, including several Norwegian
bachelor farmers. The song about the Lutheran Tuna Casserole is a
classic. Arrogance? I don't see it but to each his own. I listen and
I smile as a lot of my upbringing is remembered.
Norskie-ly yours,
jo4hn
Keith Nuttle wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> For those of you who are citizens of the USA.
>>
>> Hope you have taken a moment to remember why we have this day.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
> After Gerrison Keillor cut down of the accomplishments of the US in the
> songs he had on his program last night we will never listen to him
> again. It has been coming on for a long time, last night was the last
> straw.
Gave up on the pompous prick years ago. Had to laugh at two musician
friends, previously of his same basic persuasion, who were recently on
his show (the "duo" thing) and came back in disbelief at the overtly
shabby treatment they received, apparently simply because of the state
they were from. IOW, they learned All is not so warm-fuzzy-touchy-feely
as they had imagined the public persona to be.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)