LC

"Larry C"

19/02/2009 7:52 PM

Question about a woodworking show

I was thinking of going to the show in Western Mass this weekend. Are there
any deals to be had at these shows. Do they have special show pricing on
some items.

Just wondering if anyone knew what the deal was. pun intended

This is the show



http://cms.thewoodworkingshows.com/cms/Shows/BostonMAFeb2022/tabid/69/Default.aspx

Thanks

Larry C


This topic has 51 replies

Jn

"Joe"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

19/02/2009 8:14 PM

I went to the Atlanta show looking for a deal on big iron. I was
disappointed, but maybe because I'm comparing it to shows from years ago.

What are looking for deals on?

jc

"Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I was thinking of going to the show in Western Mass this weekend. Are
>there any deals to be had at these shows. Do they have special show
>pricing on some items.
>
> Just wondering if anyone knew what the deal was. pun intended
>
> This is the show
>
>
>
> http://cms.thewoodworkingshows.com/cms/Shows/BostonMAFeb2022/tabid/69/Default.aspx
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry C

Mb

MB

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

19/02/2009 6:04 PM

I went to the Baltimore show in January. I been going for several
years, and if you're into woodworking and want to kill a some time, it
is interesting just to walk around and see and touch stuff you've only
seen in catalogues, or stuff you've never even seen. Some demos can be
convincing if you've already been leaning towards a purchase of for
example the "dubby". At the Balto show there was also woodworking
guilds displaying their work. The bridge city booth usually has a guy
cutting dovetails by hand (I can't recall if I saw him this year). Lee
Valley give 10% off the catalogue price - no taxes, no shipping. Not a
gloat, but a good deal. They also have a bench and some scraps so you
can try out the planes, saws and what not. I also saw a 1 hr
presentation from Graham Blackburn that was interesting

So for the price of a movie ticket you can kill about twice as much
time. And compared to the movies, the food is a bargain...

Mitch

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 2:23 PM

On Feb 21, 5:13=A0pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Feb 21, 4:57 pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Robatoy wrote:
>
> >>> The Dutch know a thing or two about long words. To wit:
> >> Iceland has some beauties, as well.
>
> > Bjork?
>
> Words! =A0<G>

http://www.crimespot.net/Spotted/Images/SwedishChefSmall.jpg

Ll

Lazlo

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

19/02/2009 2:00 PM

I had the same question today and wrote to a friend who has been to
the one I'm going to in Somerset, NJ on 2/27. Here's his reply,
although it has been a few years since he's been to one.

===========
schedule:
http://cms.thewoodworkingshows.com/cms/

In addition to the tool manufactures they have vendors, suppliers,
demonstrators, seminars and lectures.(
http://cms.thewoodworkingshows.com/cms/Shows/SomersetNJFeb27Mar1/tabid/92/Default.aspx
)
Also individuals who rent out booth space.
Bring both cash and credit card as they have a number of 'show
specials'.

tt

tom

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

19/02/2009 5:47 PM

On Feb 19, 12:52 pm, "Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I was thinking of going to the show in Western Mass this weekend. Are there
> any deals to be had at these shows. Do they have special show pricing on
> some items.
>
> Just wondering if anyone knew what the deal was. pun intended
>
> This is the show
>
> http://cms.thewoodworkingshows.com/cms/Shows/BostonMAFeb2022/tabid/69...
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry C

The most exciting part of the Tucson show was the woman hawking the
"Grabbit" screw extractor tool. Say hi for me! There'll be deals on
really long chinese-made combination squares that aren't square,
phenolic table saw inserts that aren't flat, lotsa demos and
overpriced junk food. One thing to look for is a discounted admission
coupon, usually available for printing on the website. There's the
deal, IMO. Tom

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 2:32 PM

On Feb 21, 5:23=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Feb 21, 5:13=A0pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Robatoy wrote:
> > > On Feb 21, 4:57 pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> Robatoy wrote:
>
> > >>> The Dutch know a thing or two about long words. To wit:
> > >> Iceland has some beauties, as well.
>
> > > Bjork?
>
> > Words! =A0<G>
>
> http://www.crimespot.net/Spotted/Images/SwedishChefSmall.jpg

Pardon me..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dmbs64GvGgPU

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 12:21 PM

Robatoy wrote:

> The Dutch know a thing or two about long words. To wit:
>
> elektriciteitsproductiemaatschappij
> hottentottensoldatententententoonstelling
> potentiaalvereffeningswandcontactdoosafdekplaatje.
> zandzeepsodemineraalwatersteenstralen
>
> and my favourite:
>
> autobandventieldopjesfabrieksdirectricesassistentesuniformenknoop

You realize, of course, that your post will stymie the DHS computers for
the next 483 years...

:0)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 2:28 PM

Han wrote:

> Btw, those phrases from Robatoy are really "germanisms" (Dutch, meaning
> words that are transliterated into Dutch from German, or analogous to
> German). In fact they are concatenated adjectives and nouns.
>
> My favorite (favourite) is the German phrase-in-a-word:
> Eisenbahnknotenpunkthienundherschiebershauschen
> "rail road intersection switch operator's little house"
>
> Obviously, in "real" English the sequence of words would be different,
> but I have kept them synchronized with the Dutch/German here. <smile!>

I'm sure you're aware that "fractured" Dutch and German have been a
source of humor for Americans for a long time. From childhood I remember:

peepenflapper = chick
quackenflapper = duck
honkenflapper = goose
waggenbarker = friendly dog
bitenbarker = unfriendly dog
loudenboomer = artillery shell
grosseloudenboomer = 500 lb bomb
loudenboomermiteingrosseholengroundundalleskaput = nuke
ad nausea...

> I did go by Lowe's this morning to buy a piece of "top choice" 1x3x8ft
> pine. I need to resaw this for edging around salvaged plywood to be
> converted from relatively big doors to relatively small drawer fronts. I
> have to remember that this Lowe's, like the new Home Depot, also in
> Paterson off Rt 20, are in 3% sales tax zones. Regular salestax in
> Jersey is 7%.

Nice drive-by but no sympathy - it's 8% here.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

19/02/2009 1:08 PM

Ya never know until ya go.

These shows have kind of been in decline (unfortunately) over the past
few years with seemingly fewer and fewer exhibitors and rising costs
to attend (and park), etc. such that the value proposition is
dwindling. That's a sad thing for me. Anyway, with the competition of
the Internet and the current economy I'm just not sure they will
survive. There was a rumor they were being closed down and I think
some events have been cancelled.

It would be great, if you do attend, to report back on your
impressions.

BW
On Feb 19, 11:52=A0am, "Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I was thinking of going to the show in Western Mass this weekend. =A0Are =
there
> any deals to be had at these shows. =A0Do they have special show pricing =
on
> some items.
>
> Just wondering if anyone knew what the deal was. pun intended
>
> This is the show
>
> http://cms.thewoodworkingshows.com/cms/Shows/BostonMAFeb2022/tabid/69...
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry C

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

23/02/2009 9:03 AM

Thanks for the report. Sounds like they are limping along about the
same as has been for a few years.

One question, did you "check the web" from a web enabled phone?

On Feb 23, 8:07=A0am, "Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote:
> So I went to the woodworkers show yesterday. =A0There were certainly a lo=
t of
> router bits there.
>
> The good news is I purchased 8 of the 3D Square setups for $85. =A0They a=
re
> $16 a piece on Amazon. =A0http://jevonstoolco.com/index.html
>
> I also purchased the "Show Only" Woodworker II blade and dampener for $12=
0.http://www.3dsawbladesalesfl.com/product_info.php/products_id/64?osCs...
>
> Both items I wanted and they happened to have good deals at the show. =A0=
I did
> check the web while at the show to see if the prices were really "good".
>
> It was basically what many of the posters here had said it would be. =A0I=
t had
> more of a feel of a flea market than a show. =A0Peachtree Woodworking too=
k up
> a large percentage of the floor space. =A0The stuff they had was what the=
y
> have in their catalogue except it was displayed in bins. =A0As I mentione=
d in
> the first line, there were a lot of router bits to be had. =A0 Kreg had a
> sizable display. =A0The only "iron" was Ridgid have a few items and Woodc=
raft
> had a few items as well. =A0I did see an informative talk about finishing=
. On
> a scale of 1 to 10 I would give it a 6. =A0There may have been more deals
> there but I wasn't looking - didn't have the money, for anything else.
>
> Larry C

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 5:13 PM

Robatoy wrote:
> On Feb 21, 4:57 pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>
>>> The Dutch know a thing or two about long words. To wit:
>> Iceland has some beauties, as well.
>
> Bjork?


Words! <G>

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

20/02/2009 9:39 AM

Being involved in marketing (in my real job) the flip side of a down
economy is many companies not having the cash to pay for space to
attend. Shows are one of the first mktg expenses to get cut (after the
people).


On Feb 20, 5:17=A0am, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > I think the Internet killed the "deal" aspect of consumer-oriented show=
s
> > long time ago. =A0My regular visits were woodworking, flying, r/c
> > airplane, electronics, and recorded music shows. =A0I used to attend su=
ch
> > shows and watched the "show special" morph into an everyday online pric=
e.
>
> Possibly, but I'm willing to wager that the current economic climate has
> tempered prices considerably and that there's going to be some deals to b=
e
> had. It can't hurt to offer a lower price for something. All they can say=
is
> "no". And if you're in the position to want to buy more than one item or
> it's some big iron you want, then offering to buy several pieces almost
> always means you can bargain to a lower price.

LC

"Larry C"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

20/02/2009 1:45 PM


"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:o1ynl.5677$%[email protected]...
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Western MA????? Did they re-arrange the state?
>
> Maybe he's got the map upside down.

I grew up on the Northshore. Went to college in Boston.

Anything west of 128 is Western MA, west of 495 is the Berkshires.

The above comment makes no sense unless you live here.



Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Larry C" on 20/02/2009 1:45 PM

21/02/2009 6:16 PM

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 22:55:19 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:

>Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Our sales tax is 9.75%, the maximum allowable (until they change the
>> law). Maybe keeps tourists away, I don't know, but no state tax on
>> earned income or interest.
>
>
>I forget Phisherman, you're where? Texas-Houston?

East Tennessee, lots of native woods here and the Smoky Mountains.
High Point, NC, is not too far away.

Jn

"Joe"

in reply to "Larry C" on 20/02/2009 1:45 PM

22/02/2009 8:29 PM


"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Joe wrote:
>>>> I forget Phisherman, you're where? Texas-Houston?
>>> East Tennessee, lots of native woods here and the Smoky Mountains.
>>> High Point, NC, is not too far away.
>>
>> Where in ET? I'm west knox.
>>
>> jc
>>
>> Oh, and yeah, our sales tax stinks...... That was the main part of the
>> reason I was hoping to find some big iron at the woodworking show (just
>> to bring this back on topic :-))
>>
>
> Don't you think the lack of state income tax more than makes up for it?
>
>
> --
>
> -MIKE-
>
> "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> --Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
> --
> http://mikedrums.com
> [email protected]
> ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Jn

"Joe"

in reply to "Larry C" on 20/02/2009 1:45 PM

22/02/2009 1:07 PM


>>I forget Phisherman, you're where? Texas-Houston?
>
> East Tennessee, lots of native woods here and the Smoky Mountains.
> High Point, NC, is not too far away.

Where in ET? I'm west knox.

jc

Oh, and yeah, our sales tax stinks...... That was the main part of the
reason I was hoping to find some big iron at the woodworking show (just to
bring this back on topic :-))


Hn

Han

in reply to "Larry C" on 20/02/2009 1:45 PM

22/02/2009 12:01 AM

Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 22:55:19 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Our sales tax is 9.75%, the maximum allowable (until they change the
>>> law). Maybe keeps tourists away, I don't know, but no state tax on
>>> earned income or interest.
>>
>>
>>I forget Phisherman, you're where? Texas-Houston?
>
> East Tennessee, lots of native woods here and the Smoky Mountains.
> High Point, NC, is not too far away.
>
That seems almost in the middle of NC, SE of Winston-Salem, so if that is
close to you, High Point State Park is close to me (HPSP is in NJ, very
close to Port Jervis, where NY, NJ & PA meet. Although for "woods" we
mostly go to Harriman/Bear Mountain, the Shawangunks or Catskills.

And I pay Fed, NY & NJ income taxes in addition to the sales tax. And I
am happy to pay them. If I weren't, I wouldn't have income <sheepish
grin>.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "Larry C" on 20/02/2009 1:45 PM

22/02/2009 11:08 AM

Joe wrote:
>>> I forget Phisherman, you're where? Texas-Houston?
>> East Tennessee, lots of native woods here and the Smoky Mountains.
>> High Point, NC, is not too far away.
>
> Where in ET? I'm west knox.
>
> jc
>
> Oh, and yeah, our sales tax stinks...... That was the main part of the
> reason I was hoping to find some big iron at the woodworking show (just to
> bring this back on topic :-))
>

Don't you think the lack of state income tax more than makes up for it?


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Jn

"Joe"

in reply to "Larry C" on 20/02/2009 1:45 PM

22/02/2009 9:09 PM


"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Joe wrote:
>>>> I forget Phisherman, you're where? Texas-Houston?
>>> East Tennessee, lots of native woods here and the Smoky Mountains.
>>> High Point, NC, is not too far away.
>>
>> Where in ET? I'm west knox.
>>
>> jc
>>
>> Oh, and yeah, our sales tax stinks...... That was the main part of the
>> reason I was hoping to find some big iron at the woodworking show (just
>> to bring this back on topic :-))
>>
>
> Don't you think the lack of state income tax more than makes up for it?
>
>
> --
>
> -MIKE-
>

It's nice when there's income. Given today's circumstances, where there's
more and more people with no income that still need to buy stuff....

They get you coming or going (or both).

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 2:07 PM

On Feb 21, 4:57=A0pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
>
> > The Dutch know a thing or two about long words. To wit:
>
> Iceland has some beauties, as well.

Bjork?

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

20/02/2009 8:17 AM


"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I think the Internet killed the "deal" aspect of consumer-oriented shows
> long time ago. My regular visits were woodworking, flying, r/c
> airplane, electronics, and recorded music shows. I used to attend such
> shows and watched the "show special" morph into an everyday online price.

Possibly, but I'm willing to wager that the current economic climate has
tempered prices considerably and that there's going to be some deals to be
had. It can't hurt to offer a lower price for something. All they can say is
"no". And if you're in the position to want to buy more than one item or
it's some big iron you want, then offering to buy several pieces almost
always means you can bargain to a lower price.

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

20/02/2009 7:41 AM

Along the same lines, the Canadian Home Workshop Show will be held this
coming Februrary 28, 29 and March 1.

www.canadianhomeworkshop.com/show

I'll be there on the Saturday.

EP

"Ed Pawlowski"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

19/02/2009 10:57 PM


"Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I was thinking of going to the show in Western Mass this weekend. Are
>there any deals to be had at these shows. Do they have special show
>pricing on some items.
>
> Just wondering if anyone knew what the deal was. pun intended
>
> This is the show
>
>
>
> http://cms.thewoodworkingshows.com/cms/Shows/BostonMAFeb2022/tabid/69/Default.aspx
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry C

Western MA????? Did they re-arrange the state?

I've only been to a couple of shows. No big bargains, but there are some
worthwhile. I saved about $50 when I bought a saw blade and dado blade.
But there were no $1500 off the price of a Unisaw.

Hn

Han

in reply to "Ed Pawlowski" on 19/02/2009 10:57 PM

21/02/2009 10:55 PM

Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Our sales tax is 9.75%, the maximum allowable (until they change the
> law). Maybe keeps tourists away, I don't know, but no state tax on
> earned income or interest.


I forget Phisherman, you're where? Texas-Houston?

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Ed Pawlowski" on 19/02/2009 10:57 PM

21/02/2009 5:37 PM

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:01:42 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I
>> have to remember that this Lowe's, like the new Home Depot, also in
>> Paterson off Rt 20, are in 3% sales tax zones. Regular salestax in
>> Jersey is 7%.
>
>
>Is that to attract people to the more adventurous neighborhoods?
>


Our sales tax is 9.75%, the maximum allowable (until they change the
law). Maybe keeps tourists away, I don't know, but no state tax on
earned income or interest.

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

20/02/2009 9:01 AM

Upscale wrote:
> "B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I think the Internet killed the "deal" aspect of consumer-oriented shows
>> long time ago. My regular visits were woodworking, flying, r/c
>> airplane, electronics, and recorded music shows. I used to attend such
>> shows and watched the "show special" morph into an everyday online price.
>
> Possibly, but I'm willing to wager that the current economic climate has
> tempered prices considerably and that there's going to be some deals to be
> had. It can't hurt to offer a lower price for something. All they can say is
> "no". And if you're in the position to want to buy more than one item or
> it's some big iron you want, then offering to buy several pieces almost
> always means you can bargain to a lower price.
>

A good point. It's worth a shot.

Also note that the current economy has some vendors canceling show
appearances altogether.

Jn

"Joe"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 10:40 PM


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Feb 21, 10:49 am, "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > I'd agree to that, Ed, although I am originally from about 3,000 miles
> > ENE of that area, across the North Sea about 70 miles, not far from 51°
> > 59'11N 05°39'52E
>
> > After the Boston area now in the NYC area.
>
> > --
> > Best regards
> > Han
> > email address is invalid
>
> Droevendaalseseteeg Road?

The Dutch know a thing or two about long words. To wit:

elektriciteitsproductiemaatschappij
hottentottensoldatententententoonstelling
potentiaalvereffeningswandcontactdoosafdekplaatje.
zandzeepsodemineraalwatersteenstralen

and my favourite:

autobandventieldopjesfabrieksdirectricesassistentesuniformenknoop

don't forget floccinocinihilipilification......

Hn

Han

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 12:54 PM

"Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:o1ynl.5677$%[email protected]...
>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> Western MA????? Did they re-arrange the state?
>>>
>>> Maybe he's got the map upside down.
>>
>> I grew up on the Northshore. Went to college in Boston.
>>
>> Anything west of 128 is Western MA, west of 495 is the Berkshires.
>>
>> The above comment makes no sense unless you live here.
>>
>
> Yes, sort of parochial. But for the other viewers, Worcester is
> considered Central MA and Marlboro is east of that. For the rest of
> us, western MA starts around Rt 91
>
I'd agree to that, Ed, although I am originally from about 3,000 miles
ENE of that area, across the North Sea about 70 miles, not far from 51°
59'11N 05°39'52E

After the Boston area now in the NYC area.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Hn

Han

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 5:00 PM

"Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I'd agree to that, Ed, although I am originally from about 3,000
>> miles ENE of that area, across the North Sea about 70 miles, not far
>> from 51° 59'11N 05°39'52E
>>
>> After the Boston area now in the NYC area.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards
>> Han
>> email address is invalid
>
> Droevendaalseseteeg Road?

That was the first thing that came up when I googled Wageningen and
longitude.

Generally, a "steeg" is a small road, or rather alley. In this case it
used to be a narrow road through the grasslands there, but now is a
somewhat bigger road with university/research buildings. Droevendaal is
probably the name of an old farm(stead). One meaning of daal or dal is
valley, and droef means sad. Looking up droevendaal gets you first a
link to a picture of a toilet in student housing, secondly a link to the
"Organic Experimental and Training Farm Droevendaal". That picture is
very much like the area where I grew up. I can smell the landly smells
(natural fertilizer from the farms' animal stalls!) from my youth!!

Wageningen is an 800 year or so old "city" with a world famous
agricultural university. It is also the site of a 5-day battle at the
start of WWII, and the surrender of German troops to General Foulkes (on
May 5, 1945
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Foulkes_(Canadian_general).


--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Hn

Han

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 8:02 PM

Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote in news:49a04592$0$87079$815e3792
@news.qwest.net:

> Robatoy wrote:
>
>> The Dutch know a thing or two about long words. To wit:
>>
>> elektriciteitsproductiemaatschappij
electricity production compny
>> hottentottensoldatententaententoonstelling
hottentotten (South African natives) soldiers tent exhibition
>> potentiaalvereffeningswandcontactdoosafdekplaatje.
potential equilibration wall outlet cover plate
>> zandzeepsodemineraalwatersteenstralen
sand soap (expletive deleted) mineral water stone streams/rays
>>
>> and my favourite:
>>
>> autobandventieldopjesfabrieksdirectricesassistentesuniformenknoop
car tube valve cover factory director (female) assistent's uniform button
(i.e. :
the uniform button of the assistant (female) to the director (female) of
the factory making valve cover for automobile inner tubes
>
Morris said in fact:
> You realize, of course, that your post will stymie the DHS computers
> for the next 483 years...
>
>:0)

Morris, I agree that would be a good thing.

Btw, those phrases from Robatoy are really "germanisms" (Dutch, meaning
words that are transliterated into Dutch from German, or analogous to
German). In fact they are concatenated adjectives and nouns.

My favorite (favourite) is the German phrase-in-a-word:
Eisenbahnknotenpunkthienundherschiebershauschen
"rail road intersection switch operator's little house"

Obviously, in "real" English the sequence of words would be different,
but I have kept them synchronized with the Dutch/German here. <smile!>

I did go by Lowe's this morning to buy a piece of "top choice" 1x3x8ft
pine. I need to resaw this for edging around salvaged plywood to be
converted from relatively big doors to relatively small drawer fronts. I
have to remember that this Lowe's, like the new Home Depot, also in
Paterson off Rt 20, are in 3% sales tax zones. Regular salestax in
Jersey is 7%.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Hn

Han

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 9:19 PM

Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>> I did go by Lowe's this morning to buy a piece of "top choice"
>> 1x3x8ft pine. I need to resaw this for edging around salvaged
>> plywood to be converted from relatively big doors to relatively small
>> drawer fronts. I have to remember that this Lowe's, like the new
>> Home Depot, also in Paterson off Rt 20, are in 3% sales tax zones.
>> Regular salestax in Jersey is 7%.
>
> Nice drive-by but no sympathy - it's 8% here.
>
It's something like 8.5% in NYC, but that's still nothing comapred to the
20% or so VAT in Eurp.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Hn

Han

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 9:23 PM

"Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in news:jYZnl.14337$as4.11743
@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:

>
> "Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I
>> have to remember that this Lowe's, like the new Home Depot, also in
>> Paterson off Rt 20, are in 3% sales tax zones. Regular salestax in
>> Jersey is 7%.
>
>
> Is that to attract people to the more adventurous neighborhoods?
>
Yes, Jersey has these development zones where to get commerce going they
lowered the tax rate. Who decides on what where, I don't know. I just
take advantage. Usually I like to bike a few hundred yards to Goodman's
Hardware. They have most everything I need that can be had from a
neighborhood hardware store, including shellac. Today I had to go far
afield to cash in my Costco Amex rebate, and decided to go by Lowe's on the
way back. It was hard, but I managed to skip a visit to MicroCenter
computers next to that Lowes ...

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Hn

Han

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 10:57 PM

"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:Tp%[email protected]:

>
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]..
<snip>
> The Dutch know a thing or two about long words. To wit:
>
> elektriciteitsproductiemaatschappij
> hottentottensoldatententententoonstelling
> potentiaalvereffeningswandcontactdoosafdekplaatje.
> zandzeepsodemineraalwatersteenstralen
>
> and my favourite:
>
> autobandventieldopjesfabrieksdirectricesassistentesuniformenknoop
>
> don't forget floccinocinihilipilification......
>

Not on my piles, you don't!

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

LA

Limp Arbor

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

19/02/2009 5:08 PM

On Feb 19, 5:00=A0pm, Lazlo <[email protected]> wrote:
> I had the same question today and wrote to a friend who has been to
> the one I'm going to in Somerset, NJ on 2/27. =A0

I hope there are deals, I also am planning on attending Somerset next
weekend.

LC

"Larry C"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

23/02/2009 4:07 PM

So I went to the woodworkers show yesterday. There were certainly a lot of
router bits there.

The good news is I purchased 8 of the 3D Square setups for $85. They are
$16 a piece on Amazon. http://jevonstoolco.com/index.html

I also purchased the "Show Only" Woodworker II blade and dampener for $120.
http://www.3dsawbladesalesfl.com/product_info.php/products_id/64?osCsid=1c872f22f7087623c218b334be364d79

Both items I wanted and they happened to have good deals at the show. I did
check the web while at the show to see if the prices were really "good".

It was basically what many of the posters here had said it would be. It had
more of a feel of a flea market than a show. Peachtree Woodworking took up
a large percentage of the floor space. The stuff they had was what they
have in their catalogue except it was displayed in bins. As I mentioned in
the first line, there were a lot of router bits to be had. Kreg had a
sizable display. The only "iron" was Ridgid have a few items and Woodcraft
had a few items as well. I did see an informative talk about finishing. On
a scale of 1 to 10 I would give it a 6. There may have been more deals
there but I wasn't looking - didn't have the money, for anything else.

Larry C

LC

"Larry C"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

23/02/2009 5:39 PM


"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:557bf8d9-fd2c-421c-bede-b5b2af99e9e1@j39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
Thanks for the report. Sounds like they are limping along about the
same as has been for a few years.

One question, did you "check the web" from a web enabled phone?

On Feb 23, 8:07 am, "Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote:
> So I went to the woodworkers show yesterday. There were certainly a lot of
> router bits there.
>
> The good news is I purchased 8 of the 3D Square setups for $85. They are
> $16 a piece on Amazon. http://jevonstoolco.com/index.html
>
> I also purchased the "Show Only" Woodworker II blade and dampener for
> $120.http://www.3dsawbladesalesfl.com/product_info.php/products_id/64?osCs...
>
> Both items I wanted and they happened to have good deals at the show. I
> did
> check the web while at the show to see if the prices were really "good".
>
> It was basically what many of the posters here had said it would be. It
> had
> more of a feel of a flea market than a show. Peachtree Woodworking took up
> a large percentage of the floor space. The stuff they had was what they
> have in their catalogue except it was displayed in bins. As I mentioned in
> the first line, there were a lot of router bits to be had. Kreg had a
> sizable display. The only "iron" was Ridgid have a few items and Woodcraft
> had a few items as well. I did see an informative talk about finishing. On
> a scale of 1 to 10 I would give it a 6. There may have been more deals
> there but I wasn't looking - didn't have the money, for anything else.
>
> Larry C

Checked the web from my blackberry


Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

20/02/2009 7:42 AM


"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> coming Februrary 28, 29 and March 1.
>
> www.canadianhomeworkshop.com/show

Mistake on the date. It's Feb 27, 28, March 1.

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 2:35 PM

On Feb 21, 5:32=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Feb 21, 5:23=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 21, 5:13=A0pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Robatoy wrote:
> > > > On Feb 21, 4:57 pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> Robatoy wrote:
>
> > > >>> The Dutch know a thing or two about long words. To wit:
> > > >> Iceland has some beauties, as well.
>
> > > > Bjork?
>
> > > Words! =A0<G>
>
> >http://www.crimespot.net/Spotted/Images/SwedishChefSmall.jpg
>
> Pardon me..
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dmbs64GvGgPU

Maybe this will work as an antidote for that contagious Swedish Chef
tune...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQqIyjLxwk-s

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 9:30 AM

On Feb 21, 10:49=A0am, "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > I'd agree to that, Ed, although I am originally from about 3,000 miles
> > ENE of that area, across the North Sea about 70 miles, not far from 51=
=B0
> > 59'11N 05=B039'52E
>
> > After the Boston area now in the NYC area.
>
> > --
> > Best regards
> > Han
> > email address is invalid
>
> Droevendaalseseteeg Road?

The Dutch know a thing or two about long words. To wit:

elektriciteitsproductiemaatschappij
hottentottensoldatententententoonstelling
potentiaalvereffeningswandcontactdoosafdekplaatje.
zandzeepsodemineraalwatersteenstralen

and my favourite:

autobandventieldopjesfabrieksdirectricesassistentesuniformenknoop

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

20/02/2009 7:52 AM

Larry C wrote:
> I was thinking of going to the show in Western Mass this weekend. Are
> there any deals to be had at these shows. Do they have special show
> pricing on some items.
>
> Just wondering if anyone knew what the deal was. pun intended

I think the Internet killed the "deal" aspect of consumer-oriented shows
long time ago. My regular visits were woodworking, flying, r/c
airplane, electronics, and recorded music shows. I used to attend such
shows and watched the "show special" morph into an everyday online price.

To me, the only reason to attend a consumer show is to fondle an item I
can't see locally or attend an instructional clinic. If I'm going
specifically to see an item, I'll contact the manufacturer in advance to
make sure I can see the item. Different woodworking shows offer widely
varying clinic opportunities. Some worthwhile clinics may cost
significant extra money compared to the entry fee. Check in advance...

The full scale airplane shows still do OK, but they're run by massive
organizations, like AOPA and EAA, and it's pretty hard to sit in the
cockpit of a new airplane over the 'net. <G>

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

19/02/2009 8:46 PM

I posted this review on the Nashville one, a couple months ago...

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/
This thing travels the country most of the year and has been doing so
for a long time. I remember going, maybe 10 years ago, and being amazed
and impressed.
This time... in a word.... pretty lame. Ok two words. Anyway.....

If you have to drive far (probably too late for those already driving...
sorry), don't bother. If you're in Nashville, since college football is
over, and you have 6-9 bucks to spare, check it out. Juts don't hold
your breath waiting to be floored.

Peachtree Woodworking Supply out of Atlanta basically has half the
floorspace, displaying the same stuff you see in their catalogs..... and
everyone else's.... which is great if you're looking to stock up on all
that woodworking nuts-n-bolts stuff and save yourself a bunch of shipping.

If it weren't for our local Woodcraft store's presence, there would've
been virtually no power tools at the show. And these guys were thinking
of not even participating this year. They saved the show from bordering
on being a complete joke, in my book.

Notable exception.... and quite possibly worth the price of admission
and travel, alone. This guy:
http://www.stockroomsupply.com/V_Drum_Sander.php
This uniquely designed drum sander is nothing short of amazing and must
be seen to be fully appreciated.

Final word...
for the most part, this show has become at best, disappointing, at
worst, a real joke. Most of the products you would expect to see at a
woodworking show are absent. Maybe it's a case of the manufacturers not
seeing a profitable market in Nashville. Maybe all the cool tools and
new, exciting technologies show up in the bigger markets. Man, I sure
hope so....

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--


-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

20/02/2009 9:07 AM

Larry C wrote:
>
> The above comment makes no sense unless you live here.


It does to me. I know folks in NYC that call Westchester County
"Upstate NY". <G>

EP

"Ed Pawlowski"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 4:01 PM


"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I
> have to remember that this Lowe's, like the new Home Depot, also in
> Paterson off Rt 20, are in 3% sales tax zones. Regular salestax in
> Jersey is 7%.


Is that to attract people to the more adventurous neighborhoods?

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 4:57 PM

Robatoy wrote:
>
> The Dutch know a thing or two about long words. To wit:
>

Iceland has some beauties, as well.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

23/02/2009 4:54 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote:
>So I went to the woodworkers show yesterday. There were certainly a lot of
>router bits there.
>
>The good news is I purchased 8 of the 3D Square setups for $85. They are
>$16 a piece on Amazon. http://jevonstoolco.com/index.html

You won't regret that. Good stuff, those.

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

20/02/2009 8:14 AM

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Western MA????? Did they re-arrange the state?

Maybe he's got the map upside down.

EP

"Ed Pawlowski"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

20/02/2009 10:10 PM


"Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:o1ynl.5677$%[email protected]...
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> Western MA????? Did they re-arrange the state?
>>
>> Maybe he's got the map upside down.
>
> I grew up on the Northshore. Went to college in Boston.
>
> Anything west of 128 is Western MA, west of 495 is the Berkshires.
>
> The above comment makes no sense unless you live here.
>

Yes, sort of parochial. But for the other viewers, Worcester is considered
Central MA and Marlboro is east of that. For the rest of us, western MA
starts around Rt 91

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

20/02/2009 7:16 AM

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:52:18 GMT, "Larry C" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I was thinking of going to the show in Western Mass this weekend. Are there
>any deals to be had at these shows. Do they have special show pricing on
>some items.
>
>Just wondering if anyone knew what the deal was. pun intended
>
>This is the show
>
>
>
>http://cms.thewoodworkingshows.com/cms/Shows/BostonMAFeb2022/tabid/69/Default.aspx
>
>Thanks
>
>Larry C



Let us know if you liked the show. My last WW show attended was in
Cleveland Ohio in 1999 and I was very dissapointed. Took a vacation
day, paid $8 to park, and came home empty-handed.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

19/02/2009 5:05 PM


"Larry C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I was thinking of going to the show in Western Mass this weekend. Are
>there any deals to be had at these shows. Do they have special show
>pricing on some items.
>
> Just wondering if anyone knew what the deal was. pun intended
>
> This is the show
>
>
>
> http://cms.thewoodworkingshows.com/cms/Shows/BostonMAFeb2022/tabid/69/Default.aspx
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry C

The Woodworking Shows IIRC are under new management. They have been coming
to Houston for years. It is up to the particular vendor as to what kind of
deals will be offered. I suspect that if you make an offer they might offer
a better deal. Concerning new management, for the first time in 25 or so
years the location has changed for the Houston show. IIRC it is going to be
in an adjacent town, Katy, TX and parking will be free.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 2:56 PM


"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Snip

>
>> I did go by Lowe's this morning to buy a piece of "top choice" 1x3x8ft
>> pine. I need to resaw this for edging around salvaged plywood to be
>> converted from relatively big doors to relatively small drawer fronts. I
>> have to remember that this Lowe's, like the new Home Depot, also in
>> Paterson off Rt 20, are in 3% sales tax zones. Regular salestax in
>> Jersey is 7%.
>
> Nice drive-by but no sympathy - it's 8% here.


In Ustin it is 8.25%

My son recently went to San Francisco and reported that those pore soles are
being taxed to death but hey they think they have a safer environment in
the middle of an earth quake zone. LOL. They also have a "Health Sales
Tax" IIRC sales tax there is way way over 10% perhaps in the 12-14% range.

EP

"Ed Pawlowski"

in reply to "Larry C" on 19/02/2009 7:52 PM

21/02/2009 10:49 AM


"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I'd agree to that, Ed, although I am originally from about 3,000 miles
> ENE of that area, across the North Sea about 70 miles, not far from 51°
> 59'11N 05°39'52E
>
> After the Boston area now in the NYC area.
>
> --
> Best regards
> Han
> email address is invalid

Droevendaalseseteeg Road?


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