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Greg Guarino

26/08/2014 11:17 AM

Something good

We all like to tell stories about idiots; maybe to chuckle, maybe to
vent. I've got the opposite kind of story to tell.

I dug an old router out of my Dad's garage, a Rockwell 150-B with a D
handle. I turned it on and it worked, but there was some corrosion on
the collet and collet nut, and the motor cap was missing.

A few days soak with WD-40 and the collet seemed to operate OK, but the
top of the motor seemed too "exposed" for my taste; it would be a shame
to ruin a nice 50 year old tool by getting excessive wood chips and dust
in the motor.

After some searching online, I found a recommendation for "a guy" to
call for old Rockwell (and P-C) parts; no web site, no email, just a
phone number and a name: Dick Journiman. I finally got to him yesterday.
He was a genial sounding fellow who's been collecting Rockwell and P-C
parts for 50 years.

He explained that the original caps were bakelite, and they all
disintegrate after a while. Direct replacements are no longer made, but
he's got a cap that *almost* fits; it needs to have a third recess
carved out of it for the power cord exit.

That sounded OK to me, so I asked, "How do we do this?". He replied,
"I'll pack it up tomorrow and send it to you. You can send me a check
when you get it."

I paused for a moment, then remarked that his payment policy was, well,
unusual. He replied that this was really more of a hobby for him, but
added that he's had very good luck with getting paid. He says that
people who fix up old tools to use are "some of the best people in the
world".

We had a nice pleasant chat. He assures me that the router is a gem that
should outlast us all with a little care and lamented that tools like
that are no longer made. I guess I'll have to treat it well.

Oh, and yes, I'll degrease the collet before I use it.

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Sonny

in reply to Greg Guarino on 26/08/2014 11:17 AM

26/08/2014 12:31 PM

On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:17:31 AM UTC-5, Greg Guarino wrote:
> and the motor cap was missing.... After some searching online, ....

If you hadn't found a picture of a motor cap, as a visual reference, if need be, here's one for the model 150-B:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rockwell-150-B-Router-150-M-Type-3-Motor-With-A-Park-Box-Accessories-/331289235652?pt=Routers_Bits&hash=item4d226090c4

I inherited a working model 150-B and its motor cap is missing, also. Someone wrapped some electrical tape over the top, leaving a few openings for ventilation. I've used it a time or two.

It's nice to get an old tool, to sit and tinker with, etc.

Sonny

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Bill

in reply to Greg Guarino on 26/08/2014 11:17 AM

26/08/2014 12:33 PM

Leon wrote:
> On 8/26/2014 10:17 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
>> We all like to tell stories about idiots; maybe to chuckle, maybe to
>> vent. I've got the opposite kind of story to tell.
>>
>> I dug an old router out of my Dad's garage, a Rockwell 150-B with a D
>> handle. I turned it on and it worked, but there was some corrosion on
>> the collet and collet nut, and the motor cap was missing.
>>
>> A few days soak with WD-40 and the collet seemed to operate OK, but the
>> top of the motor seemed too "exposed" for my taste; it would be a shame
>> to ruin a nice 50 year old tool by getting excessive wood chips and dust
>> in the motor.
>>
>> After some searching online, I found a recommendation for "a guy" to
>> call for old Rockwell (and P-C) parts; no web site, no email, just a
>> phone number and a name: Dick Journiman. I finally got to him yesterday.
>> He was a genial sounding fellow who's been collecting Rockwell and P-C
>> parts for 50 years.
>>
>> He explained that the original caps were bakelite, and they all
>> disintegrate after a while. Direct replacements are no longer made, but
>> he's got a cap that *almost* fits; it needs to have a third recess
>> carved out of it for the power cord exit.
>>
>> That sounded OK to me, so I asked, "How do we do this?". He replied,
>> "I'll pack it up tomorrow and send it to you. You can send me a check
>> when you get it."
>>
>> I paused for a moment, then remarked that his payment policy was, well,
>> unusual. He replied that this was really more of a hobby for him, but
>> added that he's had very good luck with getting paid. He says that
>> people who fix up old tools to use are "some of the best people in the
>> world".
>>
>> We had a nice pleasant chat. He assures me that the router is a gem that
>> should outlast us all with a little care and lamented that tools like
>> that are no longer made. I guess I'll have to treat it well.
>>
>> Oh, and yes, I'll degrease the collet before I use it.
>>
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>
> Thanks for sharing. FWIW IIRC Pat, The Routerman has a similar
> payment schedule.
>
>
>
>

I was going to mention someone else who did, but I don't think we want
to set them up as targets of scammers (just a thought).

Bill

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Greg Guarino

in reply to Greg Guarino on 26/08/2014 11:17 AM

26/08/2014 4:15 PM

On 8/26/2014 3:31 PM, Sonny wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:17:31 AM UTC-5, Greg Guarino wrote:
>> and the motor cap was missing.... After some searching online,
>> ....
>
> If you hadn't found a picture of a motor cap, as a visual reference,
> if need be, here's one for the model 150-B:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rockwell-150-B-Router-150-M-Type-3-Motor-With-A-Park-Box-Accessories-/331289235652?pt=Routers_Bits&hash=item4d226090c4

Thanks. I had actually seen that listing. I was looking to see if
someone was selling a broken one for parts. But according to my new
friend Dick, the part most likely to be missing is the cap.

And in the Ebay photo you can see why the cap I'm buying will need
surgery. It has the two openings in it for the brush access covers, but
no opening for the power cord.

> I inherited a working model 150-B and its motor cap is missing,
> also. Someone wrapped some electrical tape over the top, leaving a
> few openings for ventilation. I've used it a time or two.
>
> It's nice to get an old tool, to sit and tinker with, etc.

I hope to actually use this one. I had never even heard of a D-Handle
router until recently, but I think I'm going to like being able to turn
it on and off while holding the router with two hands.


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Leon

in reply to Greg Guarino on 26/08/2014 11:17 AM

26/08/2014 11:15 AM

On 8/26/2014 10:17 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
> We all like to tell stories about idiots; maybe to chuckle, maybe to
> vent. I've got the opposite kind of story to tell.
>
> I dug an old router out of my Dad's garage, a Rockwell 150-B with a D
> handle. I turned it on and it worked, but there was some corrosion on
> the collet and collet nut, and the motor cap was missing.
>
> A few days soak with WD-40 and the collet seemed to operate OK, but the
> top of the motor seemed too "exposed" for my taste; it would be a shame
> to ruin a nice 50 year old tool by getting excessive wood chips and dust
> in the motor.
>
> After some searching online, I found a recommendation for "a guy" to
> call for old Rockwell (and P-C) parts; no web site, no email, just a
> phone number and a name: Dick Journiman. I finally got to him yesterday.
> He was a genial sounding fellow who's been collecting Rockwell and P-C
> parts for 50 years.
>
> He explained that the original caps were bakelite, and they all
> disintegrate after a while. Direct replacements are no longer made, but
> he's got a cap that *almost* fits; it needs to have a third recess
> carved out of it for the power cord exit.
>
> That sounded OK to me, so I asked, "How do we do this?". He replied,
> "I'll pack it up tomorrow and send it to you. You can send me a check
> when you get it."
>
> I paused for a moment, then remarked that his payment policy was, well,
> unusual. He replied that this was really more of a hobby for him, but
> added that he's had very good luck with getting paid. He says that
> people who fix up old tools to use are "some of the best people in the
> world".
>
> We had a nice pleasant chat. He assures me that the router is a gem that
> should outlast us all with a little care and lamented that tools like
> that are no longer made. I guess I'll have to treat it well.
>
> Oh, and yes, I'll degrease the collet before I use it.
>
> ---
> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus
> protection is active.
> http://www.avast.com
>

Thanks for sharing. FWIW IIRC Pat, The Routerman has a similar payment
schedule.

http://www.patwarner.com/


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