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Chrisgiraffe

06/06/2009 10:11 PM

New Tool

Hello fellow woodworkers,
I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
product is Red Tape.

http://www.redtape1.com

Sincerely,

Chris


This topic has 72 replies

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[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 7:43 PM

In article <6397e1fb-2399-4e27-9130-432847ffff8a@o18g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Jun 7, 9:07=A0am, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>> In article <[email protected].=
>com>, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Hello fellow woodworkers,
>> >I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
>> >soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
>> >repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
>> >when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
>> >product is Red Tape.
>>
>> >http://www.redtape1.com
>>
>> Great idea!
>>
>> You managed to trigger one of my pet peeves, though: there is no such wor=
>d as
>> Its'. Lose the apostrophe.
>>
>> it's = it is
>> its = possessive form of "it" (this is what you want instead of its')
>
>If only I had the money to hire a guy like you to check things like
>that for me.

Tell you what -- I'll review the entire site for punctuation, spelling,
grammar, etc. in exchange for a few rolls of that tape. Deal?

email me if you're interested: doug at milmac dot com

>I'll admit, I was asleep the day they taught punctuation
>in grade school and it has pestered me since. You should see my misuse
>of commas. Actually, you shouldn't, it'd give you nightmares.
>
>Sincerely though, thank you for catching that. I will make a revision.

You're welcome. Glad to help.

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 8:19 PM


"HeyBub" wrote ...
> Chrisgiraffe wrote:
>> Hello fellow woodworkers,
>> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
>> soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
>> repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
>> when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
>> product is Red Tape.
>>
>
> Does it, um, stick to, er, flesh?
>
My wife made a similar remark when I showed this to her. She said it could
be packaged into a "truth kit" for women to document actual size as opposed
to men's exaggerated sense of length and girth. She assured me there would
be a market for such an item.

I told her that very few men would submit to such a ?truth kit?. And not
just fear of the actual measurement either. Most men have a healthy fear of
adhesives in that particular area of their anatomy.


Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 4:12 PM


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> You really should seek therapy over your obsession with me. It's
unhealthy.

I'm obsessed that you're a lying, whining, asshole? Well, you could be
right, but since you're the only lying, whining asshole that I know of, I
don't have anyone else to compare to so I can find out if it's just a
natural inclination against every lying, whining asshole or directed
specifically against you.

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Chrisgiraffe

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

08/06/2009 6:57 AM


>
> It looks like it would be worth it just for jigs, but I'm not sure it
> would replace my metal tape. I recently made the shopnotes thin strip
> ripping jig, and I only need 1.5" of a 12" adhesive rule at $7. I
> couldn't bring myself to spend that much and just cut off the first 1.5".
>
> Greg M


Hi Greg. I agree. I don't plan on throwing my metal tapes to the wind.
Red Tape is not a wonder-tool, no tool can be, but it does have
certain applications it works well for. I have Starrett metal adhesive
tape (which I love) on a couple of jigs but never cared for the price
or limiting factors (as you mentioned, buy a 6' roll just to cut off
the first 1.5")- especially if it's just a quick make-do jig that I
may use for one project then toss.

Thanks for the valuable comments.

EP

"Ed Pawlowski"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 7:53 AM


"Chrisgiraffe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello fellow woodworkers,
> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
> soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
> repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
> when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
> product is Red Tape.
>
> http://www.redtape1.com
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris

Billy Mays here - - -for Red Tape. Tired of marking over and over? Here's
how to order . . . . . . . .


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Chrisgiraffe

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

10/06/2009 8:35 AM

On Jun 10, 10:37=A0am, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 10, 9:07=A0am, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 10, 6:59=A0am, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote in news:bebc6fd8-3c78-4f57=
-
> > > [email protected]:
>
> > > > On Jun 7, 1:11=A0am, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> Hello fellow woodworkers,
> > > >> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the pub=
lic
> > > >> soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one =
foot
> > > >> repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the sur=
face
> > > >> when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
> > > >> product is Red Tape.
>
> > > >>http://www.redtape1.com
>
> > > >> Sincerely,
>
> > > >> Chris
>
> > > > Just a quick follow up. The Red Tape website is fully up, corrected
> > > > (thank you for the feedback and suggestions) and ready for orders.
> > > > Rolls are priced at $6.50.
>
> > > > Thanks again for the helpful suggestions to all!
>
> > > I placed a small order. =A0Just 2 rolls.
> > > Questions:
> > > My zip (07410) is outside Georgia. =A0Why was I charged sales tax?
>
> > > I thought I was using my MC directly, but there seems to be a charge
> > > through PayPal. =A0How does that work? =A0I'm not charged twice I hop=
e.
>
> > > Looking forward to the tape, but I will have to get me a dispenser
> > > <grin>.
>
> > > --
> > > Best regards
> > > Han
> > > email address is invalid- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Hi Han,
> > I noticed the tax charge this morning and refunded the taxes ($.78).
> > I'm reviewing the code this morning to make sure the US Domestic
> > buttons aren't applying the GA state tax and that the GA resident
> > buttons are.
>
> > Sincerely,
>
> > Chris- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> My bad. Turns out it was a page design fault. the GA state only
> buttons are so close to the non-GA residents buttons that the GA state
> button was hit by accident. I'm fixing the button spacing so that it's
> less confusing. Thank you for bringing this to my attention and
> sincere apologies you had trouble with the page.
>
> -Chris- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The order page is fixed. Rather than move the buttons I simply deleted
them and integrated GA state sales tax into the shopping cart
(automatic calculation). Once again, thanks for pointing it out so
that I could make a much more user friendly web page. :-)

-Chris

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[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 9:34 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> You're welcome. Glad to help.
>
>You didn't mention the spelling error to help. You did it solely because
>you're an asshole.
>
>Yeah, maybe I am obsessed with you. But hell, it's so much fun pointing out
>what a dipshit you are that I just can't help myself.
>
><G>
>

Like I said, you really should seek therapy. Your posts say a lot more about
what kind of person you are than they do about what kind of person I am.

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

08/06/2009 6:19 AM


"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I used to tell the tech writers the ultimate test of a good tech
> writer was to hard a copy of their work to wife/girlfriend or someone
> else who knew nothing about the material, and ask them to read.

That would be a good test for the beginner. One of the things I learned
early on as a technical writer was that there were three types of people to
write for ~ the beginners, the experienced users and the experts. Each
expects information to be disseminated in a certain way.

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Chrisgiraffe

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 12:46 PM

On Jun 7, 3:16=A0pm, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
> Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote in news:546322bf-aadf-4a25-9cb=
2-
> [email protected]:
>
> > On Jun 7, 8:19=A0am, Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> The pictures on the site don't open for me. =A0What redtape do I need =
to
> >> go through in order to see them?
> >> Sonny
>
> > Sorry for the difficulty and I see you're the first to have a play on
> > the words (hehehe). I've had trouble viewing the site with IE8. I
> > would try Mozilla Firefox or Apple Safari. If those don't work I would
> > consider checking to see if my computer was plugged in. =A0;-)
>
> My IE8 (8.0.6001.18702) shows the pictures just fine, although FF
> 3.1whatever is my default browser.
>
> Now where do I buy your tape????
>
> --
> Best regards
> Han
> email address is invalid

Hello Han and thanks for your comments. The tape will be made
available directly through the site on the order page. I'm trying to
find the best shipping arrangement (i.e. lowest cost, acceptable
delivery times) and still haven't settled on a price point. I do have
stock wrapped and ready to ship and am aiming to have the order page/
pricing/shipping set up no later than this Wednesday (06/10/09).

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me through our
company e-mail:

Chris Messina
[email protected]


Thanks!

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Chrisgiraffe

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 10:21 AM

On Jun 7, 8:19=A0am, Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
> The pictures on the site don't open for me. =A0What redtape do I need to
> go through in order to see them?
> Sonny

Sorry for the difficulty and I see you're the first to have a play on
the words (hehehe). I've had trouble viewing the site with IE8. I
would try Mozilla Firefox or Apple Safari. If those don't work I would
consider checking to see if my computer was plugged in. ;-)

Sc

Sonny

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 5:19 AM

The pictures on the site don't open for me. What redtape do I need to
go through in order to see them?
Sonny

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Chrisgiraffe

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 10:23 AM

On Jun 7, 9:07=A0am, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
> In article <[email protected].=
com>, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Hello fellow woodworkers,
> >I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
> >soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
> >repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
> >when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
> >product is Red Tape.
>
> >http://www.redtape1.com
>
> Great idea!
>
> You managed to trigger one of my pet peeves, though: there is no such wor=
d as
> Its'. Lose the apostrophe.
>
> it's =3D it is
> its =3D possessive form of "it" (this is what you want instead of its')

If only I had the money to hire a guy like you to check things like
that for me. I'll admit, I was asleep the day they taught punctuation
in grade school and it has pestered me since. You should see my misuse
of commas. Actually, you shouldn't, it'd give you nightmares.

Sincerely though, thank you for catching that. I will make a revision.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 4:56 PM

In article <[email protected]>, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>Doug Miller wrote:
>....
>> So, uh, where did you see *that*? LOL
>....
>In the OP'ing...
>
Ahhh, I missed that one. :-)

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Chrisgiraffe

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

10/06/2009 6:07 AM

On Jun 10, 6:59=A0am, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
> Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote in news:bebc6fd8-3c78-4f57-
> [email protected]:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 7, 1:11=A0am, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Hello fellow woodworkers,
> >> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
> >> soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
> >> repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
> >> when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
> >> product is Red Tape.
>
> >>http://www.redtape1.com
>
> >> Sincerely,
>
> >> Chris
>
> > Just a quick follow up. The Red Tape website is fully up, corrected
> > (thank you for the feedback and suggestions) and ready for orders.
> > Rolls are priced at $6.50.
>
> > Thanks again for the helpful suggestions to all!
>
> I placed a small order. =A0Just 2 rolls.
> Questions:
> My zip (07410) is outside Georgia. =A0Why was I charged sales tax?
>
> I thought I was using my MC directly, but there seems to be a charge
> through PayPal. =A0How does that work? =A0I'm not charged twice I hope.
>
> Looking forward to the tape, but I will have to get me a dispenser
> <grin>.
>
> --
> Best regards
> Han
> email address is invalid- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hi Han,
I noticed the tax charge this morning and refunded the taxes ($.78).
I'm reviewing the code this morning to make sure the US Domestic
buttons aren't applying the GA state tax and that the GA resident
buttons are.

Sincerely,

Chris

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

10/06/2009 9:39 AM


"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:i-
> "I bought something online for $5.00. Here's my "use tax" of thirty cents.
> Enclosed please find a quarter and a nickle."

You'd probably get more attention if you all sent cheques for that thirty
cents. I was doing some business once with a lawyer working at the time with
a law firm. He went on his own and I went with him. The firm sent me a
cheque for $0.05 cents just to ensure their books were balanced. I never
cashed the cheque just to irritate them for being so anal.

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

08/06/2009 6:25 AM


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Like I said, you really should seek therapy. Your posts say a lot more
about
> what kind of person you are than they do about what kind of person I am.

Such as the fact that you're a confirmed liar so nothing you say can be
taken at face value?

I already know what kind of person I am. I usually speak my mind and
sometimes rush to open my big mouth before I've engaged my brain. But, that
doesn't happen in your case because when you get caught in an outright lie,
it follows you around like the stink of stepping in dog poop. And you my
friend, reek of it.

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Chrisgiraffe

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 5:51 PM

On Jun 7, 7:30=A0pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Chrisgiraffe wrote:
> > Hello fellow woodworkers,
> > I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
> > soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
> > repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
> > when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
> > product is Red Tape.
>
> Does it, um, stick to, er, flesh?
>
> Just asking out of curiosity, of course.

Thanks for asking. Funny you might ask. I had this idea that it might
work as a means to take one's own measurements for tailoring, which it
could. To demonstrate I wrapped a piece around my wife's wrist and it
made her look like a sausage. It stuck quite well. In retrospect I
wouldn't suggest using it to take your own measurements because it's
very difficult to align on oneself properly.

n

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 3:07 PM

Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> writes:


> Hehehehe. Hopefully I will get the word out in more than just an
> internet forum. I was just testing the water to see what real
> woodworkers think. It's easy to get friendly feedback from family and
> friends but I'd rather have guys shoot it to me straight. Detours
> don't bother me as long as they pass a few fun spots.

I don't mean to rain on your parade and hope I'm not, but after
initial delight in a new idea by an obvious original thinker, I'm
having second thoughts. Just what would be a good application for
your measuring adheasive tape that would justify the expense over any
other measurng option? I recall one respondent claiming it was such a
good idea, he needed it now, but he never elaborated.

I'm having a diffucult time imagining any practical use. OTOH, I'm
such a rank noob at woodworking, I don't even qualify as a novice and
there are many aspect to it I'm sadly ignorant of, hence lack the
experience to see how your tape might be of help. I'd be happy to be
enlightened. ;)

nb

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

08/06/2009 5:56 AM

On Jun 8, 6:35=A0am, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote innews:7aead$4a2ce705$cef88bc5$168=
[email protected]:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> Like I said, you really should seek therapy. Your posts say a lot
> >> more
> > about
> >> what kind of person you are than they do about what kind of person I
> >> am.
>
> > Such as the fact that you're a confirmed liar so nothing you say can
> > be taken at face value?
>
> > I already know what kind of person I am. I usually speak my mind and
> > sometimes rush to open my big mouth before I've engaged my brain. But,
> > that doesn't happen in your case because when you get caught in an
> > outright lie, it follows you around like the stink of stepping in dog
> > poop. And you my friend, reek of it.
>
> Sometimes things are best left unsaid, since they impune both the subject
> and object. =A0Nitpicking a commercial web page's spelling has value. =A0=
And
> it can be done in an upbuilding fashion.
>
> --
> Best regards
> Han
> email address is invalid

I agree. Pointing out an error can be constructive. Somebody with the
slightest bit of class would have done so behind the scenes in a
private e-mail. Miller, however, loves to point out such errors, not
to assist, but to gloat about how fantastically bright he was to have
discovered the error and in the process trying to elevate himself at
the expense of somebody's innocuous error. In other words, it
illustrates exactly what Miller is about, a guy who thrives on other
peoples mistakes, a parasite.

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 10:51 AM

Doug Miller wrote:
>
> Great idea!
>
> You managed to trigger one of my pet peeves, though: there is no such
> word as
> Its'. Lose the apostrophe.
>
> it's = it is
> its = possessive form of "it" (this is what you want instead of its')

Not to worry.

The basic Law of Apostrophe Conservation states that for every improper
"its" there's a corresponding misuse of "it's".

Just remember the rule: "Its give me fits" (it's a rhyming rule, but can be
used as commentary.)

Cc

"CW"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 4:28 PM


"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Ever notice that Miller never comes around unless he can pick on
> somebody?
>
> yes
>
>

Hope he doesn't have kids.

Dd

"DanG"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 5:05 PM

I bought the similar tapes at a flea market in Florida. They were
made of paper with a self adhesive back and were only marked in
quarters. I mounted one on each side of the blade on my chop
saw. I did the same think on the fence on my drill press. When
you want a handful of 3x3 somethings it sure is easy - no marking,
everything the same. Many little projects look better with holes
evenly spaced, easy to accomplish on my drill press, again with no
lay out.

If these tapes are of a higher quality material that won't get
rubbed away in use, they could well be worth a very low cost. For
more accurate work, there are full length self adhesive tapes for
Biesemier, etc. They run $20 ish.

--
______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)
[email protected]



<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> writes:
>
>
>> Hehehehe. Hopefully I will get the word out in more than just
>> an
>> internet forum. I was just testing the water to see what real
>> woodworkers think. It's easy to get friendly feedback from
>> family and
>> friends but I'd rather have guys shoot it to me straight.
>> Detours
>> don't bother me as long as they pass a few fun spots.
>
> I don't mean to rain on your parade and hope I'm not, but after
> initial delight in a new idea by an obvious original thinker,
> I'm
> having second thoughts. Just what would be a good application
> for
> your measuring adheasive tape that would justify the expense
> over any
> other measurng option? I recall one respondent claiming it was
> such a
> good idea, he needed it now, but he never elaborated.
>
> I'm having a diffucult time imagining any practical use. OTOH,
> I'm
> such a rank noob at woodworking, I don't even qualify as a
> novice and
> there are many aspect to it I'm sadly ignorant of, hence lack
> the
> experience to see how your tape might be of help. I'd be happy
> to be
> enlightened. ;)
>
> nb

ch

"cm"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 6:47 AM

Doug,

There is a "SHOES" store in the town just north of me. I guess they "SALE"
shoes



I like the redtape. I hope it doesn't stop government motors from performing
well.........


Redtape guy,

Great idea!

cm


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Hello fellow woodworkers,
>>I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
>>soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
>>repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
>>when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
>>product is Red Tape.
>>
>>http://www.redtape1.com
>
> Great idea!
>
> You managed to trigger one of my pet peeves, though: there is no such word
> as
> Its'. Lose the apostrophe.
>
> it's = it is
> its = possessive form of "it" (this is what you want instead of its')

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

10/06/2009 8:03 AM


"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
> I placed a small order. Just 2 rolls.
> Questions:
> My zip (07410) is outside Georgia. Why was I charged sales tax?
>
> I thought I was using my MC directly, but there seems to be a charge
> through PayPal. How does that work? I'm not charged twice I hope.
>
> Looking forward to the tape, but I will have to get me a dispenser
> <grin>.


Probably not the correct answer but a valid one in some instances, if he
has representation in your state, if his product is being sold in stores in
your state, most states will require charging sales tax for that state.
PayPal may be in your state and be part of that equation.

Amazon has a large facility in Texas and purchases shipped out of state from
that facility have a sales tax.

Actually in Texas for example every one is liable to pay a "tax" on goods
regardless of where the goods were purchased if you bring the goods back to
Texas. This particular "Use Tax", not sales tax is just an example of
hundreds of taxes that are very often technically owed but not paid. I be
surprised if other states have similar taxes.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 7:45 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Oh, I C, not on this post.
>
>And now, thanks to Doug, another promising invention is lost forever to the
>didn't-I-see-that-in-some-thread? wasteland.

You really should seek therapy over your obsession with me. It's unhealthy.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 1:07 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hello fellow woodworkers,
>I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
>soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
>repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
>when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
>product is Red Tape.
>
>http://www.redtape1.com

Great idea!

You managed to trigger one of my pet peeves, though: there is no such word as
Its'. Lose the apostrophe.

it's = it is
its = possessive form of "it" (this is what you want instead of its')

Ll

"LD"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 8:18 AM

"Chrisgiraffe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello fellow woodworkers,
> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
> soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
> repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
> when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
> product is Red Tape.
>
> http://www.redtape1.com
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris


Where & when can I get some!! I needed it Today.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 10:31 PM

"Upscale" wrote:

> Ignore him Chris. I'm a technical writer by trade. If you like, I'll
> look
> through your website for free without recompense.

I used to tell the tech writers the ultimate test of a good tech
writer was to hard a copy of their work to wife/girlfriend or someone
else who knew nothing about the material, and ask them to read.

If the gals understood the material, it was a mark of work well done.

If they didn't, it was back to the rewrite table.

Lew

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

10/06/2009 9:05 AM


"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon wrote:
>>
>> Actually in Texas for example every one is liable to pay a "tax" on
>> goods regardless of where the goods were purchased if you bring the
>> goods back to Texas. This particular "Use Tax", not sales tax is
>> just an example of hundreds of taxes that are very often technically
>> owed but not paid. I be surprised if other states have similar taxes.
>
> If we banded together, we could put an end to this nonsense.
>
> What if a thousand people per day sent notes to the state comptroller, all
> with the message:
>
> "I bought something online for $5.00. Here's my "use tax" of thirty cents.
> Enclosed please find a quarter and a nickle."

Actually, I know some one very very personaly ;~) that sees that happen
every day. They would be glad to take your money. And uh, you would owe
41 cents. ;:)

>
> Or
>
> "I got a package of birthday cookies from Aunt Fiona. The dog wouldn't
> even sniff 'em. Nevertheless, I'm enclosing my state "Use Tax" based on
> their estimated worth. There's a penny in the envelope. Please forward a
> receipt.

See above answer. You would have to fill out the paper work for the payment
and that is a lot of trouble, more trouble than the point you were trying to
make would be worth. AND, IIRC if the paperwork is not proper the payment
or overage would go into the general accounts fund.








Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 9:52 AM


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>So uh, where did you see its'?
>
> On the main page, right under the heading "Transparent", where it says
> "Its' clear tape backing allows you to see all the detail of what you
> apply it
> to."


Oh, I C, not on this post.






Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 6:28 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Upscale" wrote:
>
>> Ignore him Chris. I'm a technical writer by trade. If you like, I'll
>> look
>> through your website for free without recompense.
>
> I used to tell the tech writers the ultimate test of a good tech
> writer was to hard a copy of their work to wife/girlfriend or someone
> else who knew nothing about the material, and ask them to read.
>
> If the gals understood the material, it was a mark of work well done.
>
> If they didn't, it was back to the rewrite table.
>

"Hard a copy"?

Did the tech girls know what you were talking about? Did they re-write it?
Did they send it off to a lay person to check for comprehension?

Cc

"CW"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 4:34 PM


"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I wonder if they stretch during handling and installation? I can see a
>false sense of accuracy and security if they do... looked at the web site
>but didn't notice anything about that characteristic. Could have over
>looked it though.
>
It did say on the site that you need to be careful not to stretch it.

Aj

"Artemus"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 8:35 PM

That's a great idea.

However, I'd like to know more than marketing hype about the accuracy.
What is the base plastic? How stretchable is it? What is its temperature
coefficient?
Art

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 6:09 PM

I wonder if they stretch during handling and installation? I can see a false
sense of accuracy and security if they do... looked at the web site but
didn't notice anything about that characteristic. Could have over looked it
though.


"DanG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I bought the similar tapes at a flea market in Florida. They were made of
>paper with a self adhesive back and were only marked in quarters. I
>mounted one on each side of the blade on my chop saw. I did the same
>think on the fence on my drill press. When you want a handful of 3x3
>somethings it sure is easy - no marking, everything the same. Many little
>projects look better with holes evenly spaced, easy to accomplish on my
>drill press, again with no lay out.
>
> If these tapes are of a higher quality material that won't get rubbed away
> in use, they could well be worth a very low cost. For more accurate work,
> there are full length self adhesive tapes for Biesemier, etc. They run
> $20 ish.
>
> --
> ______________________________
> Keep the whole world singing . . . .
> DanG (remove the sevens)
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>
>>> Hehehehe. Hopefully I will get the word out in more than just an
>>> internet forum. I was just testing the water to see what real
>>> woodworkers think. It's easy to get friendly feedback from family and
>>> friends but I'd rather have guys shoot it to me straight. Detours
>>> don't bother me as long as they pass a few fun spots.
>>
>> I don't mean to rain on your parade and hope I'm not, but after
>> initial delight in a new idea by an obvious original thinker, I'm
>> having second thoughts. Just what would be a good application for
>> your measuring adheasive tape that would justify the expense over any
>> other measurng option? I recall one respondent claiming it was such a
>> good idea, he needed it now, but he never elaborated.
>>
>> I'm having a diffucult time imagining any practical use. OTOH, I'm
>> such a rank noob at woodworking, I don't even qualify as a novice and
>> there are many aspect to it I'm sadly ignorant of, hence lack the
>> experience to see how your tape might be of help. I'd be happy to be
>> enlightened. ;)
>>
>> nb
>
>

Hn

Han

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 7:16 PM

Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote in news:546322bf-aadf-4a25-9cb2-
[email protected]:

> On Jun 7, 8:19 am, Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The pictures on the site don't open for me.  What redtape do I need to
>> go through in order to see them?
>> Sonny
>
> Sorry for the difficulty and I see you're the first to have a play on
> the words (hehehe). I've had trouble viewing the site with IE8. I
> would try Mozilla Firefox or Apple Safari. If those don't work I would
> consider checking to see if my computer was plugged in. ;-)

My IE8 (8.0.6001.18702) shows the pictures just fine, although FF
3.1whatever is my default browser.

Now where do I buy your tape????

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Hn

Han

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 7:53 PM

Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Jun 7, 3:16 pm, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:546322bf-aadf-4a25-9cb
> 2-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>> > On Jun 7, 8:19 am, Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> The pictures on the site don't open for me.  What redtape do I
>> >> need
> to
>> >> go through in order to see them?
>> >> Sonny
>>
>> > Sorry for the difficulty and I see you're the first to have a play
>> > on the words (hehehe). I've had trouble viewing the site with IE8.
>> > I would try Mozilla Firefox or Apple Safari. If those don't work I
>> > would consider checking to see if my computer was plugged in.  ;-)
>>
>> My IE8 (8.0.6001.18702) shows the pictures just fine, although FF
>> 3.1whatever is my default browser.
>>
>> Now where do I buy your tape????
>>
>> --
>> Best regards
>> Han
>> email address is invalid
>
> Hello Han and thanks for your comments. The tape will be made
> available directly through the site on the order page. I'm trying to
> find the best shipping arrangement (i.e. lowest cost, acceptable
> delivery times) and still haven't settled on a price point. I do have
> stock wrapped and ready to ship and am aiming to have the order page/
> pricing/shipping set up no later than this Wednesday (06/10/09).
>
> If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me through our
> company e-mail:
>
> Chris Messina
> [email protected]
>
>
> Thanks!
>
Please be so kind as to let us know when we can part with our money!
Good luck!

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Hn

Han

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

08/06/2009 10:32 AM

"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I used to tell the tech writers the ultimate test of a good tech
>> writer was to hard a copy of their work to wife/girlfriend or someone
>> else who knew nothing about the material, and ask them to read.
>
> That would be a good test for the beginner. One of the things I
> learned early on as a technical writer was that there were three types
> of people to write for ~ the beginners, the experienced users and the
> experts. Each expects information to be disseminated in a certain way.

And I believe that nitpicking has a redeeming feature. Spelling and logic
errors make a writer look un-professional. Colloquial language (including
occasional spelling errors) are fine in newsgroups etc., but a commerical
webpage should be as spotless as can be.


--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Hn

Han

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

08/06/2009 10:35 AM

"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Like I said, you really should seek therapy. Your posts say a lot
>> more
> about
>> what kind of person you are than they do about what kind of person I
>> am.
>
> Such as the fact that you're a confirmed liar so nothing you say can
> be taken at face value?
>
> I already know what kind of person I am. I usually speak my mind and
> sometimes rush to open my big mouth before I've engaged my brain. But,
> that doesn't happen in your case because when you get caught in an
> outright lie, it follows you around like the stink of stepping in dog
> poop. And you my friend, reek of it.

Sometimes things are best left unsaid, since they impune both the subject
and object. Nitpicking a commercial web page's spelling has value. And
it can be done in an upbuilding fashion.


--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Hn

Han

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

10/06/2009 10:59 AM

Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote in news:bebc6fd8-3c78-4f57-
[email protected]:

> On Jun 7, 1:11 am, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hello fellow woodworkers,
>> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
>> soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
>> repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
>> when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
>> product is Red Tape.
>>
>> http://www.redtape1.com
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Chris
>
> Just a quick follow up. The Red Tape website is fully up, corrected
> (thank you for the feedback and suggestions) and ready for orders.
> Rolls are priced at $6.50.
>
> Thanks again for the helpful suggestions to all!
>
I placed a small order. Just 2 rolls.
Questions:
My zip (07410) is outside Georgia. Why was I charged sales tax?

I thought I was using my MC directly, but there seems to be a charge
through PayPal. How does that work? I'm not charged twice I hope.

Looking forward to the tape, but I will have to get me a dispenser
<grin>.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Hn

Han

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

11/06/2009 12:47 AM

Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote in
news:3e2d981d-fe9f-41b0-a7be-55db6534fbed@t10g2000vbg.googlegroups.com:

> On Jun 10, 10:37 am, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Jun 10, 9:07 am, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 10, 6:59 am, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote in
>> > > news:bebc6fd8-3c78-4f57
> -
>> > > [email protected]:
>>
>> > > > On Jun 7, 1:11 am, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > >> Hello fellow woodworkers,
>> > > >> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the
>> > > >> pub
> lic
>> > > >> soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a
>> > > >> one
> foot
>> > > >> repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the
>> > > >> sur
> face
>> > > >> when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of
>> > > >> the product is Red Tape.
>>
>> > > >>http://www.redtape1.com
>>
>> > > >> Sincerely,
>>
>> > > >> Chris
>>
>> > > > Just a quick follow up. The Red Tape website is fully up,
>> > > > corrected (thank you for the feedback and suggestions) and
>> > > > ready for orders. Rolls are priced at $6.50.
>>
>> > > > Thanks again for the helpful suggestions to all!
>>
>> > > I placed a small order.  Just 2 rolls.
>> > > Questions:
>> > > My zip (07410) is outside Georgia.  Why was I charged sales tax?
>>
>> > > I thought I was using my MC directly, but there seems to be a
>> > > charge through PayPal.  How does that work?  I'm not charged
>> > > twice I hop
> e.
>>
>> > > Looking forward to the tape, but I will have to get me a
>> > > dispenser <grin>.
>>
>> > > --
>> > > Best regards
>> > > Han
>> > > email address is invalid- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > Hi Han,
>> > I noticed the tax charge this morning and refunded the taxes
>> > ($.78). I'm reviewing the code this morning to make sure the US
>> > Domestic buttons aren't applying the GA state tax and that the GA
>> > resident buttons are.
>>
>> > Sincerely,
>>
>> > Chris- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> My bad. Turns out it was a page design fault. the GA state only
>> buttons are so close to the non-GA residents buttons that the GA
>> state button was hit by accident. I'm fixing the button spacing so
>> that it's less confusing. Thank you for bringing this to my attention
>> and sincere apologies you had trouble with the page.
>>
>> -Chris- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> The order page is fixed. Rather than move the buttons I simply deleted
> them and integrated GA state sales tax into the shopping cart
> (automatic calculation). Once again, thanks for pointing it out so
> that I could make a much more user friendly web page. :-)
>
> -Chris
>
As indicated by email, you're very welcome, Chris.

And to those who suggest payment of use taxes the following:
NJ charges use taxes on internet orders. It's a Royal PITA to have to
chase these things down, and I do want to pay close to my fair share. I
need to pay use taxes to NJ, though, not to Georgia.


--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

GM

Greg M

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

08/06/2009 9:36 AM

Chrisgiraffe wrote:
> Hello fellow woodworkers,
> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
> soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
> repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
> when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
> product is Red Tape.
>
> http://www.redtape1.com
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris

It looks like it would be worth it just for jigs, but I'm not sure it
would replace my metal tape. I recently made the shopnotes thin strip
ripping jig, and I only need 1.5" of a 12" adhesive rule at $7. I
couldn't bring myself to spend that much and just cut off the first 1.5".

Greg M

EP

"Ed Pawlowski"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 5:20 PM


"Chrisgiraffe" <[email protected]> wrote in message

Hello Han and thanks for your comments. The tape will be made
available directly through the site on the order page. I'm trying to
find the best shipping arrangement (i.e. lowest cost, acceptable
delivery times) and still haven't settled on a price point. I do have
stock wrapped and ready to ship and am aiming to have the order page/
pricing/shipping set up no later than this Wednesday (06/10/09).

***********************************************

If you have pre-packs of one, two, six, etc. don't dismiss the USPS. I
occasionally order from a place in CA and get consistent 2 or 3 day delivery
to CT by mail as compared to a week+ via UPS. That would keep cost down for
both buyer and seller. I hate to buy a $10 item and have to pay $20
shipping costs.

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 6:30 PM

Chrisgiraffe wrote:
> Hello fellow woodworkers,
> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
> soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
> repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
> when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
> product is Red Tape.
>

Does it, um, stick to, er, flesh?

Just asking out of curiosity, of course.

Cc

Chrisgiraffe

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 10:25 AM

On Jun 7, 2:03=A0pm, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > Oh, I C, not on this post.
>
> And now, thanks to Doug, another promising invention is lost forever to t=
he
> didn't-I-see-that-in-some-thread? wasteland.

Hehehehe. Hopefully I will get the word out in more than just an
internet forum. I was just testing the water to see what real
woodworkers think. It's easy to get friendly feedback from family and
friends but I'd rather have guys shoot it to me straight. Detours
don't bother me as long as they pass a few fun spots.

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 4:25 PM


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Tell you what -- I'll review the entire site for punctuation, spelling,
> grammar, etc. in exchange for a few rolls of that tape. Deal?

Ignore him Chris. I'm a technical writer by trade. If you like, I'll look
through your website for free without recompense.

If Miller really had your well being at heart, he would have responded to
you privately about the spelling error. He was only seeking some perverse
type of attention when he mentioned it publicly.

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 9:09 PM

Chrisgiraffe wrote:
> On Jun 7, 7:30 pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Chrisgiraffe wrote:
>>> Hello fellow woodworkers,
>>> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the
>>> public soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's
>>> a one foot repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull
>>> up the surface when removed. The printing on the tape is red and
>>> the name of the product is Red Tape.
>>
>> Does it, um, stick to, er, flesh?
>>
>> Just asking out of curiosity, of course.
>
> Thanks for asking. Funny you might ask. I had this idea that it might
> work as a means to take one's own measurements for tailoring, which it
> could. To demonstrate I wrapped a piece around my wife's wrist and it
> made her look like a sausage. It stuck quite well. In retrospect I
> wouldn't suggest using it to take your own measurements because it's
> very difficult to align on oneself properly.

Who the hell cares about the size of a woman's WRIST? Couldn't you find
something more interesting to report on?

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 1:03 PM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Oh, I C, not on this post.

And now, thanks to Doug, another promising invention is lost forever to the
didn't-I-see-that-in-some-thread? wasteland.

Cc

Chrisgiraffe

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

09/06/2009 8:44 PM

On Jun 7, 1:11=A0am, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello fellow woodworkers,
> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
> soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
> repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
> when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
> product is Red Tape.
>
> http://www.redtape1.com
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris

Just a quick follow up. The Red Tape website is fully up, corrected
(thank you for the feedback and suggestions) and ready for orders.
Rolls are priced at $6.50.

Thanks again for the helpful suggestions to all!

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

08/06/2009 6:30 AM


"Chrisgiraffe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I feel like Dean Martin after he has just set up a joke. Perhaps we
> should take our act on the road. (long Borat pause...) Not! :-)

Hey, you never know, you could be well on your way to being the next
multi-millionaire sex shop owner. Mail order, internet sales ~ the world
could be yours for the taking.

That wouldn't be so bad would it? <G>

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 2:12 PM

On Jun 7, 5:27=A0pm, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > You're welcome. Glad to help.
>
> You didn't mention the spelling error to help. You did it solely because
> you're an asshole.
>
> Yeah, maybe I am obsessed with you. But hell, it's so much fun pointing o=
ut
> what a dipshit you are that I just can't help myself.
>
> <G>

Ever notice that Miller never comes around unless he can pick on
somebody?

Cc

Chrisgiraffe

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

10/06/2009 7:37 AM

On Jun 10, 9:07=A0am, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 10, 6:59=A0am, Han <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote in news:bebc6fd8-3c78-4f57-
> > [email protected]:
>
> > > On Jun 7, 1:11=A0am, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> Hello fellow woodworkers,
> > >> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the publi=
c
> > >> soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one fo=
ot
> > >> repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surfa=
ce
> > >> when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
> > >> product is Red Tape.
>
> > >>http://www.redtape1.com
>
> > >> Sincerely,
>
> > >> Chris
>
> > > Just a quick follow up. The Red Tape website is fully up, corrected
> > > (thank you for the feedback and suggestions) and ready for orders.
> > > Rolls are priced at $6.50.
>
> > > Thanks again for the helpful suggestions to all!
>
> > I placed a small order. =A0Just 2 rolls.
> > Questions:
> > My zip (07410) is outside Georgia. =A0Why was I charged sales tax?
>
> > I thought I was using my MC directly, but there seems to be a charge
> > through PayPal. =A0How does that work? =A0I'm not charged twice I hope.
>
> > Looking forward to the tape, but I will have to get me a dispenser
> > <grin>.
>
> > --
> > Best regards
> > Han
> > email address is invalid- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Hi Han,
> I noticed the tax charge this morning and refunded the taxes ($.78).
> I'm reviewing the code this morning to make sure the US Domestic
> buttons aren't applying the GA state tax and that the GA resident
> buttons are.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

My bad. Turns out it was a page design fault. the GA state only
buttons are so close to the non-GA residents buttons that the GA state
button was hit by accident. I'm fixing the button spacing so that it's
less confusing. Thank you for bringing this to my attention and
sincere apologies you had trouble with the page.

-Chris

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 4:27 PM


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> You're welcome. Glad to help.

You didn't mention the spelling error to help. You did it solely because
you're an asshole.

Yeah, maybe I am obsessed with you. But hell, it's so much fun pointing out
what a dipshit you are that I just can't help myself.

<G>

Cc

Chrisgiraffe

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 5:48 PM

"I wonder if they stretch during handling and installation? I can see
a false
sense of accuracy and security if they do... looked at the web site
but
didn't notice anything about that characteristic. Could have over
looked it
though. "

They handle as well as metal tapes and, just like metal tapes, they
can give inaccurate results if used improperly (i.e. spooling from the
bumper of a Corvette traveling at 60MPH is very likely to stretch it
out.)

In my tests it has taken quite a bit of force to stretch them to a
point where they will not return to their original shape so the answer
is "no", they will not be stretched out of shape during normal
handling and installation. The best way to apply is with a standard
packaging tape dispenser, pressing the tape downward to the surface as
the tape is unrolled. I do give proper application recommendations on
the 'tape tips' page.

Cc

Chrisgiraffe

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 10:06 PM

On Jun 7, 10:08=A0pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Lee Michaels wrote:
> > "HeyBub" =A0wrote ...
> >> Chrisgiraffe wrote:
> >>> Hello fellow woodworkers,
> >>> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the
> >>> public soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's
> >>> a one foot repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull
> >>> up the surface when removed. The printing on the tape is red and
> >>> the name of the product is Red Tape.
>
> >> Does it, um, stick to, er, flesh?
>
> > My wife made a similar remark when I showed this to her. =A0She said it
> > could be packaged into a "truth kit" for women to document actual
> > size as opposed to men's exaggerated sense of length and girth. She
> > assured me there would be a market for such an item.
>
> > I told her that very few men would submit to such a ?truth kit?. =A0And
> > not just fear of the actual measurement either. =A0Most men have a
> > healthy fear of adhesives in that particular area of their anatomy.
>
> There is a theory that that's the reason women are such a poor judge of
> distance. They've been told all their life that this (holding thumb and
> forefinger moderately apart) is six inches!
>
> The corollary to that is the wisdom imparted by my dear, departed,
> grandfather: "Never date a woman with big hands; they make you dick look
> small."- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I feel like Dean Martin after he has just set up a joke. Perhaps we
should take our act on the road. (long Borat pause...) Not! :-)

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

06/06/2009 11:21 PM

On Jun 7, 1:11=A0am, Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello fellow woodworkers,
> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
> soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
> repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
> when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
> product is Red Tape.
>
> http://www.redtape1.com
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris

Good idea! I can see that being useful. Clever name!

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 10:29 AM

On Jun 7, 10:26=A0am, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, "Leon" <remov=
[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> In article
> >> <[email protected]>,
> >> Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>Hello fellow woodworkers,
> >>>I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
> >>>soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
> >>>repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
> >>>when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
> >>>product is Red Tape.
>
> >>>http://www.redtape1.com
>
> >> Great idea!
>
> >> You managed to trigger one of my pet peeves, though: there is no such =
word
> >> as
> >> Its'. Lose the apostrophe.
>
> >> it's =3D it is
> >> its =3D possessive form of "it" (this is what you want instead of its'=
)
>
> >So uh, where did you see its'?
>
> On the main page, right under the heading "Transparent", where it says
> "Its=92 clear tape backing allows you to see all the detail of what you a=
pply it
> to."
>
> There's another misuse on the "Applications" page, under "Any shape":
>
> "It's ability to conform to ...." should be "Its ability ..."
>
>
>
> > He said, =A0 =A0 =A0It's =A0 =A0a one foot repeating ......
>
> So, uh, where did you see *that*? LOL
>
>
>
> >Want to know another pet peeve? =A0LOL
>
> <snort>

*Stands up and applauds yet another major contribution from Fuckface
(I really-don't-have-much-to-do-but-whine) Miller*

Cc

Chrisgiraffe

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 5:35 PM

On Jun 7, 6:05=A0pm, "DanG" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I bought the similar tapes at a flea market in Florida. =A0They were
> made of paper with a self adhesive back and were only marked in
> quarters. =A0I mounted one on each side of the =A0blade on my chop
> saw. =A0I did the same think on the fence on my drill press. =A0When
> you want a handful of 3x3 somethings it sure is easy - no marking,
> everything the same. =A0Many little projects look better with holes
> evenly spaced, easy to accomplish on my drill press, again with no
> lay out.
>
> If these tapes are of a higher quality material that won't get
> rubbed away in use, they could well be worth a very low cost. =A0For
> more accurate work, there are full length self adhesive tapes for
> Biesemier, etc. =A0They run $20 ish.
>
> --
> ______________________________
> Keep the whole world singing . . . .
> DanG =A0(remove the sevens)
> [email protected]
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> writes:
>
> >> Hehehehe. Hopefully I will get the word out in more than just
> >> an
> >> internet forum. I was just testing the water to see what real
> >> woodworkers think. It's easy to get friendly feedback from
> >> family and
> >> friends but I'd rather have guys shoot it to me straight.
> >> Detours
> >> don't bother me as long as they pass a few fun spots.
>
> > I don't mean to rain on your parade and hope I'm not, but after
> > initial delight in a new idea by an obvious original thinker,
> > I'm
> > having second thoughts. =A0Just what would be a good application
> > for
> > your measuring adheasive tape that would justify the expense
> > over any
> > other measurng option? =A0I recall one respondent claiming it was
> > such a
> > good idea, he needed it now, but he never elaborated.
>
> > I'm having a diffucult time imagining any practical use. =A0OTOH,
> > I'm
> > such a rank noob at woodworking, I don't even qualify as a
> > novice and
> > there are many aspect to it I'm sadly ignorant of, hence lack
> > the
> > experience to see how your tape might be of help. =A0I'd be happy
> > to be
> > enlightened. =A0;)
>
> > nb- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

My woodworking experience moves me to do my best to select the proper
tool for the proper application. I don't think a direct replacement of
hard measuring devices (rulers, metal tape) is practical for all
applications. However, For curves, corners or very long lengths
(plywood, for example), I think it excels. In a plywood application
this would reduce tearout while providing a very true straight line
with very little set up. Also, there are instances where you need to
change your measurements/marks. You would never need to change using
this tape. It can also serve as a very inexpensive alternative to
starrett permanent tapes for jigs. It is just as accurate at a
significantly lower cost. Someone else mentioned how this might aid
layout for a series of holes. As it includes both perpendicular and
parallel lines it can be used for all types of quick layouts. Wrapping
it once around a board will tell you if you have true 90 degree angles
because it's length should equal the sum of the sides if you are-
unless you're cutting a nice trapezoid.

These are some uses, I'm sure there are others I haven't considered,
but I'm not trying to suggest this will replace certain tools. Its
purpose is to fill a gap I found while woodworking.

dn

dpb

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 9:34 AM

Doug Miller wrote:
...
> So, uh, where did you see *that*? LOL
...
In the OP'ing...

--

BS

"Bob S."

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 8:26 PM


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Hello fellow woodworkers,
>>I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
>>soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one
>>foot
>>repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the
>>surface
>>when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
>>product is Red Tape.
>>
>>http://www.redtape1.com
>
> Great idea!
>
> You managed to trigger one of my pet peeves, though: there is no such
> word as
> Its'. Lose the apostrophe.
>
> it's = it is
> its = possessive form of "it" (this is what you want instead of its')

There's always one Red Tape guy in the
crowd..........................;-)

Bob S.

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

10/06/2009 8:29 AM

Leon wrote:
>
> Actually in Texas for example every one is liable to pay a "tax" on
> goods regardless of where the goods were purchased if you bring the
> goods back to Texas. This particular "Use Tax", not sales tax is
> just an example of hundreds of taxes that are very often technically
> owed but not paid. I be surprised if other states have similar taxes.

If we banded together, we could put an end to this nonsense.

What if a thousand people per day sent notes to the state comptroller, all
with the message:

"I bought something online for $5.00. Here's my "use tax" of thirty cents.
Enclosed please find a quarter and a nickle."

Or

"I got a package of birthday cookies from Aunt Fiona. The dog wouldn't even
sniff 'em. Nevertheless, I'm enclosing my state "Use Tax" based on their
estimated worth. There's a penny in the envelope. Please forward a receipt.

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

10/06/2009 5:15 PM

Upscale wrote:
> "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:i-
>> "I bought something online for $5.00. Here's my "use tax" of thirty
>> cents. Enclosed please find a quarter and a nickle."
>
> You'd probably get more attention if you all sent cheques for that
> thirty cents. I was doing some business once with a lawyer working at
> the time with a law firm. He went on his own and I went with him. The
> firm sent me a cheque for $0.05 cents just to ensure their books were
> balanced. I never cashed the cheque just to irritate them for being
> so anal.

Yep. I paid cash for an emergency room visit at the hospital for whom I
worked. In the fullness of time, I received a statement:

Emergency room ..... $30.00
Payment....................$30.00 -

Pay this amount: $0.00

Inasmuch as I had to wait to get on the computer once each week while they
printer about 30,000 zero-balance statements, I retaliated by sending them a
check for zero dollars and zero cents.

Then I fussed at them for not cashing it.

Satisfying, but ultimately futile.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 2:26 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> In article
>> <[email protected]>,
>> Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Hello fellow woodworkers,
>>>I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
>>>soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
>>>repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
>>>when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
>>>product is Red Tape.
>>>
>>>http://www.redtape1.com
>>
>> Great idea!
>>
>> You managed to trigger one of my pet peeves, though: there is no such word
>> as
>> Its'. Lose the apostrophe.
>>
>> it's = it is
>> its = possessive form of "it" (this is what you want instead of its')
>
>
>So uh, where did you see its'?

On the main page, right under the heading "Transparent", where it says
"Its’ clear tape backing allows you to see all the detail of what you apply it
to."

There's another misuse on the "Applications" page, under "Any shape":

"It's ability to conform to ...." should be "Its ability ..."
>
> He said, It's a one foot repeating ......

So, uh, where did you see *that*? LOL
>
>Want to know another pet peeve? LOL

<snort>

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 10:02 AM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article
>> <[email protected]>,
>> Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Hello fellow woodworkers,
>>>I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
>>>soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
>>>repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
>>>when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
>>>product is Red Tape.
>>>
>>>http://www.redtape1.com
>>
>> Great idea!
>>
>> You managed to trigger one of my pet peeves, though: there is no such
>> word as
>> Its'. Lose the apostrophe.
>>
>> it's = it is
>> its = possessive form of "it" (this is what you want instead of its')
>
>
> So uh, where did you see its'?
>
> He said, It's a one foot repeating ......
>
> Want to know another pet peeve? LOL

I was disappointed... thought it was going to be a political and/or business
joke...

John

Cc

"CW"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 4:32 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I'm having a diffucult time imagining any practical use.

Same here.

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 9:08 PM

Lee Michaels wrote:
> "HeyBub" wrote ...
>> Chrisgiraffe wrote:
>>> Hello fellow woodworkers,
>>> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the
>>> public soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's
>>> a one foot repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull
>>> up the surface when removed. The printing on the tape is red and
>>> the name of the product is Red Tape.
>>>
>>
>> Does it, um, stick to, er, flesh?
>>
> My wife made a similar remark when I showed this to her. She said it
> could be packaged into a "truth kit" for women to document actual
> size as opposed to men's exaggerated sense of length and girth. She
> assured me there would be a market for such an item.
>
> I told her that very few men would submit to such a ?truth kit?. And
> not just fear of the actual measurement either. Most men have a
> healthy fear of adhesives in that particular area of their anatomy.

There is a theory that that's the reason women are such a poor judge of
distance. They've been told all their life that this (holding thumb and
forefinger moderately apart) is six inches!

The corollary to that is the wisdom imparted by my dear, departed,
grandfather: "Never date a woman with big hands; they make you dick look
small."

Jn

"Joe"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 1:01 PM


"Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:55a4a802-1f6e-43ef-ab51-d824acfab1e6@h11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> The pictures on the site don't open for me. What redtape do I need to
> go through in order to see them?
> Sonny

sorry, you're looking for the new and improved beauracratic red tape. Here,
fill out this form in quintuplicate,.......


to the OP. Looks like you have a good idea there.





Sk

Swingman

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 12:52 AM

Chrisgiraffe wrote:
> Hello fellow woodworkers,
> I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
> soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
> repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
> when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
> product is Red Tape.
>
> http://www.redtape1.com

Cool, I like ... looks like it could come in handy.


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Ll

"LD"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 10:21 PM

"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I wonder if they stretch during handling and installation? I can see a
>false sense of accuracy and security if they do... looked at the web site
>but didn't notice anything about that characteristic. Could have over
>looked it though.


IIRC, there was a discussion of stretch in the Tips section.

Jn

"Joe"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 9:55 PM


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ce5d38fa-f709-4729-b22c-99ae1ae5a703@e24g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 7, 5:27 pm, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > You're welcome. Glad to help.
>
> You didn't mention the spelling error to help. You did it solely because
> you're an asshole.
>
> Yeah, maybe I am obsessed with you. But hell, it's so much fun pointing
> out
> what a dipshit you are that I just can't help myself.
>
> <G>

Ever notice that Miller never comes around unless he can pick on
somebody?

yes

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 8:52 AM


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> Chrisgiraffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Hello fellow woodworkers,
>>I've invented, patented and will be offering a new tool to the public
>>soon. I just thought I'd give this forum the heads up. It's a one foot
>>repeating ruler printed on clear tape that doesn't pull up the surface
>>when removed. The printing on the tape is red and the name of the
>>product is Red Tape.
>>
>>http://www.redtape1.com
>
> Great idea!
>
> You managed to trigger one of my pet peeves, though: there is no such word
> as
> Its'. Lose the apostrophe.
>
> it's = it is
> its = possessive form of "it" (this is what you want instead of its')


So uh, where did you see its'?

He said, It's a one foot repeating ......

Want to know another pet peeve? LOL

Mt

"Max"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

07/06/2009 5:31 PM


"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Ever notice that Miller never comes around unless he can pick on
>> somebody?
>>
>> yes
>>
>>
>
> Hope he doesn't have kids.

There's one in every crowd. :-(

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Chrisgiraffe on 06/06/2009 10:11 PM

08/06/2009 5:22 AM

Somebody wrote:

> There is a theory that that's the reason women are such a poor judge
> of
> distance. They've been told all their life that this (holding thumb
> and
> forefinger moderately apart) is six inches!

Dang neaar kicked the slats out of the cradle first time I heard that
one.

Lew


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