Well, so much for any shop time today with the 2" per hour we're getting
here right now. But we can't complain - just north of us a few miles they
have 5' of the fluffy stuff on the ground already and another storm
forecasted. We're at almost 3' now and we'll be in the path of that
storm...
I shoveled a path thru that the other day so I could get to the shop and now
it's all filled in again.... some days ya just can't win...
How ya all doing? (and no smart-a** comments from those that can look up and
see the sun either...)
Bob S.
Bob S. wrote:
> Well, so much for any shop time today with the 2" per hour we're getting
> here right now. But we can't complain - just north of us a few miles they
> have 5' of the fluffy stuff on the ground already and another storm
> forecasted. We're at almost 3' now and we'll be in the path of that
> storm...
>
> I shoveled a path thru that the other day so I could get to the shop and now
> it's all filled in again.... some days ya just can't win...
>
> How ya all doing? (and no smart-a** comments from those that can look up and
> see the sun either...)
Hmmm, it may snow a few flakes (or rain) tonight but even if it does
it'll be history by 8am at the latest tomorrow. I sat outside in a
short sleeved shirt yesterday in front of the shop leafing through The
Complete Book of Woodworking. It's 42º out now (9pm) and should get
down to a chilly 27º tonight - nyuk nyuk nyuk. At last, some humidity
in Albuquerque, where it's drier than a popcorn fart.
Grandpa <jsdebooATcomcast.net> writes:
> Bob S. wrote:
>
> > Well, so much for any shop time today with the 2" per hour we're getting
> > here right now. But we can't complain - just north of us a few miles they
> > have 5' of the fluffy stuff on the ground already and another storm
> > forecasted. We're at almost 3' now and we'll be in the path of that
> > storm...
> >
> > I shoveled a path thru that the other day so I could get to the shop and now
> > it's all filled in again.... some days ya just can't win...
> >
> > How ya all doing? (and no smart-a** comments from those that can look up and
> > see the sun either...)
>
> Hmmm, it may snow a few flakes (or rain) tonight but even if it does
> it'll be history by 8am at the latest tomorrow. I sat outside in a
> short sleeved shirt yesterday in front of the shop leafing through The
> Complete Book of Woodworking. It's 42º out now (9pm) and should get
> down to a chilly 27º tonight - nyuk nyuk nyuk. At last, some humidity
> in Albuquerque, where it's drier than a popcorn fart.
You live in veritable rain forest country compared to eastern
California. We get to see some snow on the high peaks but
have had snow twice in 20+ years. Temperatue was near 70
yesterday and sunny. Probably won't see any more freezing
temps this "winter". I'll soon be back mowing grass...
Bob S. wrote:
[snip]
> I shoveled a path thru that the other day so I could get to the shop and now
> it's all filled in again.... some days ya just can't win...
Maybe this time you can dig a tunnel and have done with it. :-)
>
> How ya all doing? (and no smart-a** comments from those that can look up and
> see the sun either...)
>
> Bob S.
Can't see the sun yet. Fog/clouds rolled in to our mountaintop last
night. No storms until Monday night. Lots of folks coming up Sunday
for the Super Bowl followed by "super Survivor". Think I'll catch the
game and then work on my curmudgeon for a couple hours. Replays of the
Super Bowl commercials later. So this is what passes for civilization
in the US of A. I knew this would happen if those Republicans got into
office.
humph,
jo4hn
George wrote:
> They planted a tree in Minot? Sure it wasn't in the Turtle Mountains
> (elevation <150' AGL)?
I think you mean ASL... AGL is Above Ground Level. An elevation can't be
below ground level. :)
> I thing I remember most was sand greens golf, though at the base we
> water-rationed inhabitants of housing got to watch them pour thousands of
> gallons onto the greens. They claimed it was reclaimed water from the
> treatment plant.
I liked how we, with our recent water restrictions, were not allowed to wash
our cars, water our gardens, or bathe our dogs, but it was still OK for
golf courses to pour 50,000 gallons a minute on their stupid little grass.
They wouldn't even have to use that much water if they weren't using some
delicate little pussy grass that can't take a little drought. My yard
never got completely brown that year.
Wow, this is taking me back. I guess that was the summer before last. It
started snowing in December 2002, and the precipitation has just kept
coming ever since. The ground has been completely saturated for over a
year now.
Weird weather patterns.
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Silvan wrote:
> I think less than 3' is the most I've ever seen, except in drifts. A 24"
> snowfall is crippling here. How do you keep your roof from caving in with
> 5' of snow on the ground? How do you keep your house from rotting with all
> that water piled up above the windows? How do you get out to your
> mailbox? :)
When I was growing up in MI, we had a fun winter back in '67? '69?
something like that. Walked back from school with a bunch of friends,
about 5 miles and into the house on the 2nd story. We all stayed there
for the next week and a half. No mail, so who cares about the mailbox.
Fresh food walked into the back yard, and was dragged onto the balcony
to be dressed and butchered. We lost a bunch of people that winter.
I'm so glad that we don't get that kind of snow here in VA.
Dave in Fairfax
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Mark Jerde wrote:
> How old were you then? (I turned 10 in 1969 FWIW... ;-)
Getting out of HS, no middle schools back then either. <G>
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George wrote:
> You a UPer?
Only in spirit. Portage outside of Kalamazoo. NE corner of 94 and 131
where the swamp was. I'm told they built houses there. God knows how,
those were deep lakes and lots of artesian springs, like ground level
water fountains.
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According to NWS, up to 41" of hard packed snow in my area. I'm averaging
a bit over two and a half on the level right now. 140+ so far this winter.
Difference is, ours will be here 'till May, yours won't last the week.
"Bob S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How ya all doing? (and no smart-a** comments from those that can look up
and
> see the sun either...)
>
> Bob S.
>
>
You a UPer?
<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> When I was growing up in MI, we had a fun winter back in '67? '69?
> something like that. Walked back from school with a bunch of friends,
> about 5 miles and into the house on the 2nd story. We all stayed there
> for the next week and a half. No mail, so who cares about the mailbox.
> Fresh food walked into the back yard, and was dragged onto the balcony
> to be dressed and butchered. We lost a bunch of people that winter.
> I'm so glad that we don't get that kind of snow here in VA.
> Dave in Fairfax
Yep, one of the joys of the place is that the rigors of the climate keeps
the faint-hearted away.
They come for the weekend or the week, drop scads of money, then,
thankfully, leave. Unless I have to retrieve their snowmobile-suited
remains from one of the local maples (OBWW).
"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:10:11 -0500, "George"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >You a UPer?
> >
> I wish that you hadn't used that term, George.
>
> Many years ago I had a girlfriend who was a Yooper.
>
> I've never been so cold in my life.
>
> Happily, I married a sensible girl from a Southern State -
> Pennsylvania.
They planted a tree in Minot? Sure it wasn't in the Turtle Mountains
(elevation <150' AGL)?
I thing I remember most was sand greens golf, though at the base we
water-rationed inhabitants of housing got to watch them pour thousands of
gallons onto the greens. They claimed it was reclaimed water from the
treatment plant.
"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I grew up in SE South Dakota (Yankton - yep, home of Lyle Alzado, Tom
> Brokaw, and yr hmbl srvnt). I always said that the only thing between
> us and the North Pole was one tree in Minot, ND.
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:56:07 GMT, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Nah, it's cloudy here in Tucson this morning, so I can't see the sun.
>Will be opening the doors and windows after the morning chill is off
>though.
It's easy for notherners to be envious now, but no one here is going
to envy the 100 degree F plus temps in the summer.
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:04:22 -0600, Lazarus Long
<[email protected]> wrote:
>The French Nikita is probably the most intensely violent film I'd
>seen. And people outside the US think American films are violent.
You should watch "La Haine" then.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> Well, so much for any shop time today with the 2" per hour we're getting
> here right now. But we can't complain - just north of us a few miles they
> have 5' of the fluffy stuff on the ground already and another storm
> forecasted. We're at almost 3' now and we'll be in the path of that
> storm...
>
> I shoveled a path thru that the other day so I could get to the shop and now
> it's all filled in again.... some days ya just can't win...
>
> How ya all doing? (and no smart-a** comments from those that can look up and
> see the sun either...)
>
> Bob S.
>
Nah, it's cloudy here in Tucson this morning, so I can't see the sun.
Will be opening the doors and windows after the morning chill is off
though.
It's 58 and raining football fans here in Houston.
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"Rob V" wrote in message
> I have friends in Oswego NY - they have almost 90" on the ground already
in
> the past 6 days.
>
> Im in NC - a bit chilly here - was down to 25 this morning.
> But not as bad a my buddy in MN - it was like -27 or something ungodly
cold
> like that yesterday.
>
> I think its time to move further south - like the equator ;)
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:10:11 -0500, "George"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>You a UPer?
>
I wish that you hadn't used that term, George.
Many years ago I had a girlfriend who was a Yooper.
This relationship was of such a degree that I went home with her at
Christmas one year.
Yoopers are insane.
They live in a climate that ain't fit fer man nor beast and live to
make fun of East Coast sissies, such as myself.
That's not the worst of it.
They were only transplant Yoopers.
The following Christmas I went to their actual ancestral home.
Her Dad had grown up in, and had been a hockey coach in, their home
town of Bemidji, in the great state of Minnesota.
Oh Lord !
These folks thought of the area that Yoopers lived in to be a great
place to go for relief from the winters on the range.
I've never been so cold in my life.
Happily, I married a sensible girl from a Southern State -
Pennsylvania.
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
Rob, Oswego is my home town. I lived there for nearly 50 years,
currently retired and living in Kentucky since 1990. I have been
there and done that many times. I tell folks in Kentucky about how
much snow can fall overnight and they don't believe me. It's is
amazing at how well the snow is handled and how little it slows things
down.
Regards,
Charlie in Kentucky
"Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I have friends in Oswego NY - they have almost 90" on the ground already in
> the past 6 days.
>
> Im in NC - a bit chilly here - was down to 25 this morning.
> But not as bad a my buddy in MN - it was like -27 or something ungodly cold
> like that yesterday.
>
> I think its time to move further south - like the equator ;)
>
>
> "Bob S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Well, so much for any shop time today with the 2" per hour we're getting
> > here right now. But we can't complain - just north of us a few miles they
> > have 5' of the fluffy stuff on the ground already and another storm
> > forecasted. We're at almost 3' now and we'll be in the path of that
> > storm...
> >
> > I shoveled a path thru that the other day so I could get to the shop and
> now
> > it's all filled in again.... some days ya just can't win...
> >
> > How ya all doing? (and no smart-a** comments from those that can look up
> and
> > see the sun either...)
> >
> > Bob S.
> >
> >
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 22:43:02 +0000, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:04:22 -0600, Lazarus Long
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>The French Nikita is probably the most intensely violent film I'd
>>seen. And people outside the US think American films are violent.
>
>You should watch "La Haine" then.
I live in southeast Wisconsin. I wonder where I'd find a copy to look
at.
There's a limit to the amount of violence I'll watch. Or language. I
must be getting old, but really, every other word doesn't need to be
cursing (think the Pacino version of "Scarface") and the body count
doesn't have to approach 9-11 to make a good movie.
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:51:49 +0000, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:32:19 -0500, Silvan
>>French movies suck.
>
>Watch both versions of "Nikita", then tell me that.
The French Nikita is probably the most intensely violent film I'd
seen. And people outside the US think American films are violent.
Please.
Andy Dingley wrote:
>>That was a good movie, BTW. I usually don't like foreign movies.
>
> Mexico hardly counts as "foreign"
It's foreign enough. As far as I'm concerned, if there's no English audio
track, it's foreign, even if the movie originated entirely within the USA.
>>French movies suck.
>
> Watch both versions of "Nikita", then tell me that.
I didn't care for "Nikita" but I haven't seen the Americanized version, so
it's possible that I might have liked the French original better.
I've seen French originals of various other American movies though, and
universally disliked them. The biggest change we always make, of course,
is to tack on a happy ending.
I don like Almodóvar either. Booooooring.
I majored in foreign languages about 10 years ago, so I haven't seen what's
come out in the foreign film realm since the early '90s, but I certainly
never saw anything I would ever watch outside of a compulsory environment.
Not until /El mariachi/ anyway.
> And that's why you get so caught out by reality like Iraq.
Touché. I still prefer American film. It's sappy and stupid and utterly
unrealistic, and I like that. I don't need to watch reality for
entertainment. I live reality every day.
It's one of the fundamental cultural differences between the US and Europe,
maybe the whole rest of the world. Your airplane swoops down, pop pop pop,
Mom's dead, Dad's dead, Grandpa's dead, Uncle's dead, dog's dead, little
baby girl laying all alone on a field full of dead people. In our movies,
airplane swoops down, pop pop pop, narrowly misses everyone, and they get
to safety just in the nick of time, blow the hell out of the bad guys, and
live happily ever after.
American optimism.
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"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > George wrote:
> >
> > > They planted a tree in Minot? Sure it wasn't in the Turtle Mountains
> > > (elevation <150' AGL)?
> >
> > I think you mean ASL... AGL is Above Ground Level. An elevation can't
be
> > below ground level. :)
>
> MSL would be above sea level (mean sea level)
> AGL is Above Ground level and is a real measure used by pilots to
> distinguish between altitude above local terrain vs. an absolute level
> above sea level.
<snip>
> The difference is quite useful for setting up various airborne tests.
"Useful"? Also very "meaningful" depending on where you're flying.(LOL)
5000' MSL around Denver, you could be in a *helluva* lot of trouble.
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> George wrote:
>
> > They planted a tree in Minot? Sure it wasn't in the Turtle Mountains
> > (elevation <150' AGL)?
>
> I think you mean ASL... AGL is Above Ground Level. An elevation can't be
> below ground level. :)
MSL would be above sea level (mean sea level)
AGL is Above Ground level and is a real measure used by pilots to
distinguish between altitude above local terrain vs. an absolute level
above sea level. For example, a pilot may want to fly at an altitude of
5000 feet above ground level near Denver, thus he would be at 10,000 ft
MSL (roughly), while in Florida, he would be flying at 5000 ft MSL as
well as AGL. The difference is quite useful for setting up various
airborne tests.
>
> > I thing I remember most was sand greens golf, though at the base we
> > water-rationed inhabitants of housing got to watch them pour thousands of
> > gallons onto the greens. They claimed it was reclaimed water from the
> > treatment plant.
>
> I liked how we, with our recent water restrictions, were not allowed to wash
> our cars, water our gardens, or bathe our dogs, but it was still OK for
> golf courses to pour 50,000 gallons a minute on their stupid little grass.
>
> They wouldn't even have to use that much water if they weren't using some
> delicate little pussy grass that can't take a little drought. My yard
> never got completely brown that year.
>
> Wow, this is taking me back. I guess that was the summer before last. It
> started snowing in December 2002, and the precipitation has just kept
> coming ever since. The ground has been completely saturated for over a
> year now.
>
> Weird weather patterns.
>
>
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> It's 58 and raining football fans here in Houston.
>
>
Yeah, I've heard it's not all that much fun for the locals having the
Super Bowl in one's town.
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:32:19 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>That was a good movie, BTW. I usually don't like foreign movies.
Mexico hardly counts as "foreign"
>French movies suck.
Watch both versions of "Nikita", then tell me that.
>Spanish movies suck.
Anything by Almodóvar.
> German movies suck.
Run Lola Run
Even _East_ German films (Good bye, Lenin! ) have stopped sucking.
These days even Danish films like Dogville (OK, it's arguably French)
don't suck and have Nicole Kidman in them too.
>Only in America do
>we have the dependable, ridiculously sappy happy ending.
And that's why you get so caught out by reality like Iraq.
I am NOT going to complain .... afternoon Tempature is now 21 degrees
and there is only about 8 inches of snow on the ground... (65 miles
from Both Washington DC and Baltimore Md...about 25 miles from
Gettysburg Pa)...25 Miles from Leesbug Va....
I am in need of about 50 to 100 BF of plain old Poplar ..have
cash..have dealer...what I do not have is a way to get the truck even
close to the shop to unload it.... Us OLD 60+ year old guys just can't
work like we used to... so I have been kind of goofing off (cleaning
and fiddling around) in the shop the last few days....
Spring is in the near future however so there is hope...
Bob Griffiths
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:06:29 GMT, "Bob S." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Well, so much for any shop time today with the 2" per hour we're getting
>here right now. But we can't complain - just north of us a few miles they
>have 5' of the fluffy stuff on the ground already and another storm
>forecasted. We're at almost 3' now and we'll be in the path of that
>storm...
>
>I shoveled a path thru that the other day so I could get to the shop and now
>it's all filled in again.... some days ya just can't win...
>
>How ya all doing? (and no smart-a** comments from those that can look up and
>see the sun either...)
>
>Bob S.
>
Rob V wrote:
> I think its time to move further south - like the equator ;)
SWMBO rented /El mariachi/ last night, and I watched it without subtitles,
and pretty well understood it. Mexico didn't look *that* bad.
That was a good movie, BTW. I usually don't like foreign movies. French
movies suck. Spanish movies suck. German movies suck. Only in America do
we have the dependable, ridiculously sappy happy ending.
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I grew up in SE South Dakota (Yankton - yep, home of Lyle Alzado, Tom
Brokaw, and yr hmbl srvnt). I always said that the only thing between
us and the North Pole was one tree in Minot, ND. I remember being in a
white out with actual zero visibility. Started out with a couple feet
of powder on the ground. Wind was about 40 mph average with gusts to
over 100 mph. I had to see what it was like out there (12 year olds are
really stupid). Ended up with a swimming mask and snorkel just to
breathe. Dad kept moving the family south and west until he hit
southern California. Sweet. Now I move back into high country where we
have seasons. Must be genetic.
mahalo,
jo4hn
I have friends in Oswego NY - they have almost 90" on the ground already in
the past 6 days.
Im in NC - a bit chilly here - was down to 25 this morning.
But not as bad a my buddy in MN - it was like -27 or something ungodly cold
like that yesterday.
I think its time to move further south - like the equator ;)
"Bob S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, so much for any shop time today with the 2" per hour we're getting
> here right now. But we can't complain - just north of us a few miles they
> have 5' of the fluffy stuff on the ground already and another storm
> forecasted. We're at almost 3' now and we'll be in the path of that
> storm...
>
> I shoveled a path thru that the other day so I could get to the shop and
now
> it's all filled in again.... some days ya just can't win...
>
> How ya all doing? (and no smart-a** comments from those that can look up
and
> see the sun either...)
>
> Bob S.
>
>
Bob S. wrote:
> have 5' of the fluffy stuff on the ground already and another storm
> forecasted. We're at almost 3' now and we'll be in the path of that
> storm...
I think less than 3' is the most I've ever seen, except in drifts. A 24"
snowfall is crippling here. How do you keep your roof from caving in with
5' of snow on the ground? How do you keep your house from rotting with all
that water piled up above the windows? How do you get out to your
mailbox? :)
> How ya all doing? (and no smart-a** comments from those that can look up
> and see the sun either...)
It's cold as balls. I tried to walk the nature trail with my kids, but I
came to my senses. We didn't need to see the frozen waterfall that badly.
I only have 6" of snow on the ground, and it's bright and sunny, but cold.
Cold by our standards anyway. Way above 0 F, but well below freezing.
I finally had to shut down one of my ponds. I have a really cool ice
sculpture out there. A pile of pebbled brownish, frothy looking ice with a
24" well and an almost dry pump at the bottom. All the water came up, blew
out, and froze, so the pond is all but empty.
It hasn't been above freezing here for over a week now. So much for my
early optimism about an early spring. The ground has spent more time white
than not since December. Unusual for Virginia.
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:57:07 GMT, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>> It's 58 and raining football fans here in Houston.
>>
>>
> Yeah, I've heard it's not all that much fun for the locals having the
>Super Bowl in one's town.
Unless they'd play it in a place like Green Bay. That'd be fun. I'd
be amused by the football fans from a warm weather city going there.
But of course that won't be happening.
[email protected] wrote:
> When I was growing up in MI, we had a fun winter back in '67? '69?
> something like that. Walked back from school with a bunch of friends,
> about 5 miles and into the house on the 2nd story. We all stayed
> there
> for the next week and a half. No mail, so who cares about the
> mailbox. Fresh food walked into the back yard, and was dragged onto
> the balcony
> to be dressed and butchered. We lost a bunch of people that winter.
> I'm so glad that we don't get that kind of snow here in VA.
> Dave in Fairfax
How old were you then? (I turned 10 in 1969 FWIW... ;-)
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