CM

Christopher Mooney

31/01/2004 8:58 AM

"Wow, you did that?"

Okay ladies and germs, be honest. How many of you have ever heard this
uttered from your spouse/parent/child's mouth before? For me, this
usually comes at a point in the project when I am feeling like I could
have done about five-six things better and that I could never fully
appreciate the object in the end. Something about hearing those four
little words just puts the wind back into the old sails (and puffs the
chest a little to be completely honest).

Chris Mooney


This topic has 22 replies

DS

"Don Sforza"

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 9:46 PM

Just remember... only YOU know where the "bodies are buried".

"Christopher Mooney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Okay ladies and germs, be honest. How many of you have ever heard this
> uttered from your spouse/parent/child's mouth before? For me, this
> usually comes at a point in the project when I am feeling like I could
> have done about five-six things better and that I could never fully
> appreciate the object in the end. Something about hearing those four
> little words just puts the wind back into the old sails (and puffs the
> chest a little to be completely honest).
>
> Chris Mooney

Gn

"Gary"

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 5:27 PM


"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mike G wrote:
> > You have obviously never had my wife preview a piece. She gets on my
> > case if I don't stain finish and rub out the back of a wall cabinet.
> > Just wait till yours becomes more sophisticated in judging
> > woodworking.
>
> What do you do if she serves both Mexican & Chinese leftovers for dinner?
> <g>
>
> -- Mark

The only response a man can give - Thanks and I enjoyed it!

Jr

"JohnT."

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 2:16 PM

Charlie, interesting pages, but the 2nd page on your modular cabinet
seems to have some broken links to several of your photos.

You hav given me some ideas about cabinets for my shop, although I wont
go into dovetails and such! :)

John

LA

Lawrence A. Ramsey

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 1:58 PM

Wow, Charlie, you did THAT?????


On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:53:15 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Christopher Mooney wrote:
>>
>> Okay ladies and germs, be honest. How many of you have ever heard this
>> uttered from your spouse/parent/child's mouth before? For me, this
>> usually comes at a point in the project when I am feeling like I could
>> have done about five-six things better and that I could never fully
>> appreciate the object in the end. Something about hearing those four
>> little words just puts the wind back into the old sails (and puffs the
>> chest a little to be completely honest).
>>
>> Chris Mooney
>
> It's nice to get comments like that - but - most people use what
> they see in "furniture" stores as their frame of reference. When
> YOU look at a piece you made and say "I can't believe I made that!"
> is the kick in the ass befuddled grin experience. Of course YOU
> will always be aware of what could have been done better or
> differently but still...
>
> In ignorance, mixed with naive enthusiasm, and a JoinTech Cabinet
> Maker System router table top and fence, I made a "Modular Wall
> Hanging Tool Cabinet, with half blind dovetails, piano hinges
> and a boatload of modules for a sh*t load of handtools (I see
> toys - make that "tools" - think "that looks like I could use
> it someday" and get it). Did through and have blind dovetails,
> finger/box joints, sliding dovetails, dados, rabbets and
> mitered corners - all in ignorant bliss. The Buble Bee Syndrome
> - I didn't know, as a newbie, that I wasn't suppose to be
> able to fly. I called the project "done" after finishing a
> 3" x 3" x 3", half blind dovetailed mini-drawer to fill the
> almost full space.
>
> Here's the url for the item in question for those interested
> http://home.comcast.net/~charliebcz/RightToolCabinet.html
>
> My objective is not to brag or show off - ok maybe a little
> showing off - rather it's to get folks to try something they
> may think is "too hard". Being one's own worst critic can
> keep one improving. Do - crtique - improve - enjoy the trip.
>
> charlie b
>
> (if you checked out the url provided click on the "back to
> the index" link at the bottom of any page and then check
> out the OOPS! link. I've put just some of my screw ups
> out there for all to see, and maybe learn from. There's
> even some BLOOD!)
>http://home.comcast.net/~charliebcz/OOPS/OOPS1.html
> for the lazy reader

JT

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 12:18 PM

Sat, Jan 31, 2004, 8:58am (EST-1) [email protected]
(Christopher=A0Mooney) says:
Okay ladies and germs, be honest. How many of you have ever heard this
uttered from your spouse/parent/child's mouth before? For me, this
usually comes at a point in the project when I am feeling like I could
have done about five-six things better and that I could never fully
appreciate the object in the end. Something about hearing those four
little words just puts the wind back into the old sails (and puffs the
chest a little to be completely honest).

When I get that question, the tone usually comes across as, "You
mean an idiot like you did something like that?".

JOAT
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
- Pete Maccarrone

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 31 Jan 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to [email protected] (T.) on 31/01/2004 12:18 PM

31/01/2004 6:53 PM

JOAT responds:

>Okay ladies and germs, be honest. How many of you have ever heard this
>uttered from your spouse/parent/child's mouth before? For me, this
>usually comes at a point in the project when I am feeling like I could
>have done about five-six things better and that I could never fully
>appreciate the object in the end. Something about hearing those four
>little words just puts the wind back into the old sails (and puffs the
>chest a little to be completely honest).
>
> When I get that question, the tone usually comes across as, "You
>mean an idiot like you did something like that?".

Been there, done that. One of my aunts one day at a family event wanted to know
WHEN I head learned enough to write, IIRC, about 15-20 books on various
subjects. I was about 45 then, I think, and she was still recalling the
7-8-9-10-11-12 year old who spent summers with her or one of her siblings.

Charlie Self
"All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is
sure."
Mark Twain
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to [email protected] (T.) on 31/01/2004 12:18 PM

31/01/2004 1:50 PM

"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> JOAT responds:
>
> >Okay ladies and germs, be honest. How many of you have ever heard this
> >uttered from your spouse/parent/child's mouth before? For me, this
> >usually comes at a point in the project when I am feeling like I could
> >have done about five-six things better and that I could never fully
> >appreciate the object in the end. Something about hearing those four
> >little words just puts the wind back into the old sails (and puffs the
> >chest a little to be completely honest).
> >
> > When I get that question, the tone usually comes across as, "You
> >mean an idiot like you did something like that?".
>
> Been there, done that. One of my aunts one day at a family event wanted to
know
> WHEN I head learned enough to write, IIRC, about 15-20 books on various
> subjects. I was about 45 then, I think, and she was still recalling the
> 7-8-9-10-11-12 year old who spent summers with her or one of her siblings.

Hehe ... sometimes you're the same as you were twenty years ago in some
folks mind. Worst profession for this is music. No matter how good you are
now, fellow musicians still remember you "back when".

Famous Dude came back to visit his small hometown after 20 years of being on
the road, winning Grammies, and generally making the big time. Just as he's
leaving after a two week visit, he runs across Joe, an old musician buddy he
hasn't seen in twenty years.

Joe says: "How you doing man, haven't seen, or heard about you, in years?"

Famous Dude: "Pretty good, man. I've done pretty well in music and been on a
roll lately. AAMOF, my last album went Platinum, just like the four before
it".

Joe: "Oh man, I did NOT hear about that ... tell me more."

Famous Dude: "Well dude, I've done pretty well since I've seen you ...
played with SRV on his last two albums, sang with Ray Charles, did an album
or two with BB, then broke out on my own and managed to pick up a couple of
Grammy's, and I just broke into the movie business out in Hollywood"

Joe: "Man, that's good news ... I didn't hear about any of that..
congratulations!"

Famous Dude: "Thanks! Well man, I got to catch a plane to Hollywood to do a
movie score for Martin Scorcese. I sure enjoyed coming back and seeing all
the old guys we used to play with. AAMOF, I caught them at the old gig at
the Dew Drop Inn the other night. They sounded great and it was good to hear
them again. Hell, they even asked me to sit in for old time's sake. Dude, it
was fun ... I had real good time, even though I was a little rusty after
being off for a couple of weeks and missed a couple of the changes on "Satin
Doll"

Joe: "Yeah ... I heard about that!"

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 1/31/04

cb

charlie b

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 9:53 AM

Christopher Mooney wrote:
>
> Okay ladies and germs, be honest. How many of you have ever heard this
> uttered from your spouse/parent/child's mouth before? For me, this
> usually comes at a point in the project when I am feeling like I could
> have done about five-six things better and that I could never fully
> appreciate the object in the end. Something about hearing those four
> little words just puts the wind back into the old sails (and puffs the
> chest a little to be completely honest).
>
> Chris Mooney

It's nice to get comments like that - but - most people use what
they see in "furniture" stores as their frame of reference. When
YOU look at a piece you made and say "I can't believe I made that!"
is the kick in the ass befuddled grin experience. Of course YOU
will always be aware of what could have been done better or
differently but still...

In ignorance, mixed with naive enthusiasm, and a JoinTech Cabinet
Maker System router table top and fence, I made a "Modular Wall
Hanging Tool Cabinet, with half blind dovetails, piano hinges
and a boatload of modules for a sh*t load of handtools (I see
toys - make that "tools" - think "that looks like I could use
it someday" and get it). Did through and have blind dovetails,
finger/box joints, sliding dovetails, dados, rabbets and
mitered corners - all in ignorant bliss. The Buble Bee Syndrome
- I didn't know, as a newbie, that I wasn't suppose to be
able to fly. I called the project "done" after finishing a
3" x 3" x 3", half blind dovetailed mini-drawer to fill the
almost full space.

Here's the url for the item in question for those interested
http://home.comcast.net/~charliebcz/RightToolCabinet.html

My objective is not to brag or show off - ok maybe a little
showing off - rather it's to get folks to try something they
may think is "too hard". Being one's own worst critic can
keep one improving. Do - crtique - improve - enjoy the trip.

charlie b

(if you checked out the url provided click on the "back to
the index" link at the bottom of any page and then check
out the OOPS! link. I've put just some of my screw ups
out there for all to see, and maybe learn from. There's
even some BLOOD!)
http://home.comcast.net/~charliebcz/OOPS/OOPS1.html
for the lazy reader

bb

brocpuffs

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 3:51 PM

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:10:40 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:


>Yeh, isn't it great?! If I had only my opinion to go by, I would quit.
>

..and if you hadn't said that, I would be thinking of quitting Real
Soon Now.

Every little bit, from either people who do the same thing a lot, or
from a child, lights the way-

James
[email protected]

Tt

"Toller"

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 4:10 PM


"Christopher Mooney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Okay ladies and germs, be honest. How many of you have ever heard this
> uttered from your spouse/parent/child's mouth before? For me, this
> usually comes at a point in the project when I am feeling like I could
> have done about five-six things better and that I could never fully
> appreciate the object in the end. Something about hearing those four
> little words just puts the wind back into the old sails (and puffs the
> chest a little to be completely honest).
>
Yeh, isn't it great?! If I had only my opinion to go by, I would quit.

nN

[email protected] (Nate Perkins)

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 8:31 PM

Christopher Mooney <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Okay ladies and germs, be honest. How many of you have ever heard this
> uttered from your spouse/parent/child's mouth before? For me, this
...

Oh, yeah. I made a couple of nice rocking horses for some newborn
nephews and nieces out of cherry, walnut, and curly maple. I have one
sister-in-law that I think still suspects I either bought it, or maybe
had it commissioned ;-)

Compliments like this are nice, but I don't think it pays to take
anything too seriously. About the time you think you are getting some
skill, you will enter a piece in the local woodworking show. And
you'll walk through the entries and notice that you still have a long
long way to go. DAMHIKT.

I have an experienced woodworking buddy who says that you should never
dwell on the mistakes you make in your own projects, and you should
never notice the mistakes that others make in theirs. I think this is
good advice.

Cheers,
Nate Perkins
Ft Collins, CO

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to [email protected] (Nate Perkins) on 31/01/2004 8:31 PM

01/02/2004 2:04 PM

Nate Perkins writes:

>
>I have an experienced woodworking buddy who says that you should never
>dwell on the mistakes you make in your own projects, and you should
>never notice the mistakes that others make in theirs. I think this is
>good advice.

Unless you're judging that show.

Charlie Self
"All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is
sure."
Mark Twain
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

nN

[email protected] (Nate Perkins)

in reply to [email protected] (Nate Perkins) on 31/01/2004 8:31 PM

01/02/2004 10:34 PM

[email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> Unless you're judging that show.

Well, sure.

Kk

"KYHighlander"

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 5:27 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> >
> >What do you do if she serves both Mexican & Chinese leftovers for dinner?
> ><g>
> >
> > -- Mark
> >
>
> well i guess you fart now and then fart again in an hour or so !
> lmao......:-]>

LOL great one, thanks

KY

MG

"Mike G"

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 11:11 AM

You have obviously never had my wife preview a piece. She gets on my case if
I don't stain finish and rub out the back of a wall cabinet. Just wait till
yours becomes more sophisticated in judging woodworking.

--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Christopher Mooney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Okay ladies and germs, be honest. How many of you have ever heard this
> uttered from your spouse/parent/child's mouth before? For me, this
> usually comes at a point in the project when I am feeling like I could
> have done about five-six things better and that I could never fully
> appreciate the object in the end. Something about hearing those four
> little words just puts the wind back into the old sails (and puffs the
> chest a little to be completely honest).
>
> Chris Mooney

ss

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 5:05 PM


>
>What do you do if she serves both Mexican & Chinese leftovers for dinner?
><g>
>
> -- Mark
>

well i guess you fart now and then fart again in an hour or so !
lmao......:-]>

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 3:37 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>
> Yeh, isn't it great?! If I had only my opinion to go by, I would quit.
>
Ain't it the truth! I've never done a woodworking, gardening, or model
railroad project that I thought was really good. But I've gotten that
reaction often enough to keep me going.

I guess if we lost that attitude, we'd really turn out some junk :-).

--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

01/02/2004 9:08 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Mark Jerde <[email protected]> wrote:
>Mike G wrote:
>> You have obviously never had my wife preview a piece. She gets on my
>> case if I don't stain finish and rub out the back of a wall cabinet.
>> Just wait till yours becomes more sophisticated in judging
>> woodworking.
>
>What do you do if she serves both Mexican & Chinese leftovers for dinner?
><g>

If it's a Won Ton Taco, I yell "chop sooeee".

pP

[email protected] (Phil Crow)

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 1:15 PM

Those 4 little words are usually followed by five more:

"Will you make me one?"

Damn. <g>

-Phil Crow

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 4:50 PM

Mike G wrote:
> You have obviously never had my wife preview a piece. She gets on my
> case if I don't stain finish and rub out the back of a wall cabinet.
> Just wait till yours becomes more sophisticated in judging
> woodworking.

What do you do if she serves both Mexican & Chinese leftovers for dinner?
<g>

-- Mark

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 8:44 PM

"Christopher Mooney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Okay ladies and germs, be honest. How many of you have ever heard this
> uttered from your spouse/parent/child's mouth before? For me, this

I had one guy (who was a carpenter of sorts) come over to my place and I
remember how he exclaimed over my entertainment centre how perfect I'd made
the butt joints. That felt pretty good. Then he ruined it by examining
further and finding the one mistake I'd made in the entire unit. :)

Along the same lines, I got a similar response from a customer when I was
working IBM support. Client called in and had five specific questions about
his laptop and operating system. I was able to immediately rattle of five
complete answers to his questions. As he was hanging up the phone I heard
him say to his wife. "Wow, these guys know everything." Happened seven years
ago and I still remember how great that felt.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to Christopher Mooney on 31/01/2004 8:58 AM

31/01/2004 4:17 PM


> "Christopher Mooney" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]...
>> Okay ladies and germs, be honest. How many of you have ever heard
>> this uttered from your spouse/parent/child's mouth before?

Toller wrote:
> Yeh, isn't it great?! If I had only my opinion to go by, I would
> quit.

Most of us are our own worst critics. Feels good when you hear those words
though. I've made some simple gifts that have been truly appreciated and one
reason I do it is for the satisfaction that comes with the giving.
--
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome


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