An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid will
not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My thumbs
are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid to fit
on.
Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, without
damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. Grateful for
any suggestion. Thanks.
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:16:21 +0100, "john thompson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid will
>not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>
>The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My thumbs
>are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid to fit
>on.
>
>Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, without
>damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. Grateful for
>any suggestion. Thanks.
Does it really matter if you damage the non stick coating at the top
of the pan (other than for cosmetic reasons)? They're not made to be
used full.
Stuart wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> john thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it,
>> without damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan.
>> Grateful for any suggestion. Thanks.
>
> I find an adjustable spanner often makes a good lever in such cases. Make
> sure the jaws are clean, smooth and parallel and adjust to give a firm
> grip on the work. In your case, I would put a couple of layers of
> newspaper between the jaws and the pan surface, to avoid scratching.
>
bits of leather would work as padding also. a rubber mallet might come
in handy...
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On 25/07/2011 11:09 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> harry wrote:
>> On Jul 24, 10:16 am, "john thompson"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the
>>> lid will not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>>>
>>> The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My
>>> thumbs are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for
>>> the lid to fit on.
>>>
>>> Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it,
>>> without damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the
>>> saucepan. Grateful for any suggestion. Thanks.
>>
>> Put a piece of large diameter pipe in the vice. Rest the inside of
>> the pan on this and work the metal by hammering the outside of the
>> pan.
>> Straightforward job.
>
> All of the suggestions which center around or include hammering are likely
> to fail, since the OP state he has a non-stick surface he does not want to
> damage. I would recommend a rolling action. Do a bit of research on
> paintless dent removal and get an idea how to restore a surface. Do not
> start from the deepest part of the dent - regardless of what's been said
> here...
>
May just have to cut the lid to suit then the coating won't get damaged.
On 26/07/2011 6:26 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> In uk.rec.cars.maintenance [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Saucepans are cheap....buy another.
>
> The OP said the pan was 3mm thick. That's a pretty hefty pan, which
> would imply a fairly hefty price and thus worth an attempt at repair.
>
>
>
You could always take it to the local panel shop and get them to give it
a nudge either hammer or porta power.
In article <[email protected]>,
john thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it,
> without damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan.
> Grateful for any suggestion. Thanks.
I find an adjustable spanner often makes a good lever in such cases. Make
sure the jaws are clean, smooth and parallel and adjust to give a firm
grip on the work. In your case, I would put a couple of layers of
newspaper between the jaws and the pan surface, to avoid scratching.
--
Stuart Winsor
Midland RISC OS show - Sat July 9th 2011
http://mug.riscos.org/show11/MUGshow.html
In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >Is it _really_ worth all the bother for an aluminium pan?
> Ask the OP... he seemed to think it important enough to post. Maybe it's
> a family heirloom!
Might just be part of a very expensive set!
Mind you, my first thought is always to see if something can be repaired
before throwing it away.
Being retired, I have more time than money, if that makes sense.
--
Stuart Winsor
Midland RISC OS show - Sat July 9th 2011
http://mug.riscos.org/show11/MUGshow.html
"john thompson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid will
>not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>
>The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My thumbs
>are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid to fit
>on.
>
>Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, without
>damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. Grateful for
>any suggestion. Thanks.
>
One dolly + one rubber hammer, it is fixed.
george
On Jul 24, 10:16=A0am, "john thompson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, withou=
t
> damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. =A0
Plywood or MDF sawn in two along this radius, then used as cauls to
press it back into shape with G clamp(s). Lining the inside with 3mm
polyethylene packing foam / laminate floor underlay avoids scratching,
but crushes well when clamped.
On Jul 24, 10:16=A0am, "john thompson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid wi=
ll
> not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>
> The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My thum=
bs
> are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid to fi=
t
> on.
>
> Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, withou=
t
> damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. =A0Grateful=
for
> any suggestion. =A0Thanks.
Put a piece of large diameter pipe in the vice. Rest the inside of
the pan on this and work the metal by hammering the outside of the
pan.
Straightforward job.
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:16:21 +0100, "john thompson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid will
>not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>
>The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My thumbs
>are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid to fit
>on.
>
>Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, without
>damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. Grateful for
>any suggestion. Thanks.
>
I saw a guy on TV once, on a deep cable science channell. He rolled
up an aluminum pan like a tortilla, with his hands. Then he bent a
12" Crescent wrench to a 90 deg angle.
Just do that.
-Zz
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:05:41 +0100, Frank Erskine <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:37:30 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:16:21 +0100, "john thompson" <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid will
>>>not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>>>
>>>The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My thumbs
>>>are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid to fit
>>>on.
>>>
>>>Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, without
>>>damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. Grateful for
>>>any suggestion. Thanks.
>>>
>>
>>I've done this myself. :)
>>
>>The dent sounds small enough to grab it with a large vice-grip or Channel-lock
>>and bend it back out till the lid fits.
>>
>>Use some scrap wood ( I often use popsicle sticks) or something to protect the
>>surfaces.
>>
>>You could also cut out a wood disc section of the same diameter with your jigsaw
>>and clamp that into your bench vice, and then gently hammer the edge against
>>this to restore it. You could put vinyl tape or leather over the wood and the
>>hammer head for protection. The harder you have to hit, the more protection you
>>need.
>
>Is it _really_ worth all the bother for an aluminium pan?
Ask the OP... he seemed to think it important enough to post. Maybe it's a
family heirloom!
Frank Erskine <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:37:30 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:16:21 +0100, "john thompson" <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid will
>>>not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>>>
>>>The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My thumbs
>>>are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid to fit
>>>on.
>>>
>>>Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, without
>>>damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. Grateful for
>>>any suggestion. Thanks.
>>>
>>
>>I've done this myself. :)
>>
>>The dent sounds small enough to grab it with a large vice-grip or Channel-lock
>>and bend it back out till the lid fits.
>>
>>Use some scrap wood ( I often use popsicle sticks) or something to protect the
>>surfaces.
>>
>>You could also cut out a wood disc section of the same diameter with your jigsaw
>>and clamp that into your bench vice, and then gently hammer the edge against
>>this to restore it. You could put vinyl tape or leather over the wood and the
>>hammer head for protection. The harder you have to hit, the more protection you
>>need.
>
>Is it _really_ worth all the bother for an aluminium pan?
/nodding
http://www.backyardpoultry.com/vis/2007/feb/Chook%20Shed%20and%20Pen.JPG
... time for that pan to hit the chookpen :-)
george
In uk.rec.cars.maintenance [email protected] wrote:
> Saucepans are cheap....buy another.
The OP said the pan was 3mm thick. That's a pretty hefty pan, which
would imply a fairly hefty price and thus worth an attempt at repair.
--
Andy Clews
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On 24/07/2011 10:16, john thompson wrote:
> An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid will
> not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>
> The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My thumbs
> are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid to fit
> on.
>
> Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, without
> damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. Grateful for
> any suggestion. Thanks.
>
>
Can you make a jack that will allow you to push out the flat spot from
the inside?
Use wooden blocks with an approximately correct curve to protect the
inner non-stick surfaces.
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:22:43 +0100, "dennis@home"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> In uk.rec.cars.maintenance [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Saucepans are cheap....buy another.
>>
>> The OP said the pan was 3mm thick. That's a pretty hefty pan, which
>> would imply a fairly hefty price and thus worth an attempt at repair.
>
>I doubt if a quick belt with a mallet would damage a non-stick surface if it
>hasn't been damaged when the accident happened.
Good point.
harry wrote:
> On Jul 24, 10:16 am, "john thompson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the
>> lid will not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>>
>> The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My
>> thumbs are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for
>> the lid to fit on.
>>
>> Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it,
>> without damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the
>> saucepan. Grateful for any suggestion. Thanks.
>
> Put a piece of large diameter pipe in the vice. Rest the inside of
> the pan on this and work the metal by hammering the outside of the
> pan.
> Straightforward job.
All of the suggestions which center around or include hammering are likely
to fail, since the OP state he has a non-stick surface he does not want to
damage. I would recommend a rolling action. Do a bit of research on
paintless dent removal and get an idea how to restore a surface. Do not
start from the deepest part of the dent - regardless of what's been said
here...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 7/24/2011 5:16 AM, john thompson wrote:
> An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid will
> not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>
> The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My thumbs
> are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid to fit
> on.
>
> Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, without
> damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. Grateful for
> any suggestion. Thanks.
>
>
Might work to just grind off some of the edge of the cover. Can't take
much.
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:16:21 +0100, "john thompson" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid will
>not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>
>The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My thumbs
>are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid to fit
>on.
>
>Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, without
>damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. Grateful for
>any suggestion. Thanks.
>
I've done this myself. :)
The dent sounds small enough to grab it with a large vice-grip or Channel-lock
and bend it back out till the lid fits.
Use some scrap wood ( I often use popsicle sticks) or something to protect the
surfaces.
You could also cut out a wood disc section of the same diameter with your jigsaw
and clamp that into your bench vice, and then gently hammer the edge against
this to restore it. You could put vinyl tape or leather over the wood and the
hammer head for protection. The harder you have to hit, the more protection you
need.
"john thompson" <[email protected]> wrote something like this in message
news:[email protected]...
> An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid
> will not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>
> The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My
> thumbs are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid
> to fit on.
>
> Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, without
> damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. Grateful
> for any suggestion. Thanks.
>
Saucepans are cheap....buy another.
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:37:30 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:16:21 +0100, "john thompson" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid will
>>not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>>
>>The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My thumbs
>>are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid to fit
>>on.
>>
>>Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, without
>>damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. Grateful for
>>any suggestion. Thanks.
>>
>
>I've done this myself. :)
>
>The dent sounds small enough to grab it with a large vice-grip or Channel-lock
>and bend it back out till the lid fits.
>
>Use some scrap wood ( I often use popsicle sticks) or something to protect the
>surfaces.
>
>You could also cut out a wood disc section of the same diameter with your jigsaw
>and clamp that into your bench vice, and then gently hammer the edge against
>this to restore it. You could put vinyl tape or leather over the wood and the
>hammer head for protection. The harder you have to hit, the more protection you
>need.
Is it _really_ worth all the bother for an aluminium pan?
--
Frank Erskine
Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 25/07/2011 11:09 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> harry wrote:
>>> On Jul 24, 10:16 am, "john thompson"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the
>>>> lid will not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>>>>
>>>> The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My
>>>> thumbs are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for
>>>> the lid to fit on.
>>>>
>>>> Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it,
>>>> without damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the
>>>> saucepan. Grateful for any suggestion. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Put a piece of large diameter pipe in the vice. Rest the inside of
>>> the pan on this and work the metal by hammering the outside of the
>>> pan.
>>> Straightforward job.
>>
>> All of the suggestions which center around or include hammering are likely
>> to fail, since the OP state he has a non-stick surface he does not want to
>> damage. I would recommend a rolling action. Do a bit of research on
>> paintless dent removal and get an idea how to restore a surface. Do not
>> start from the deepest part of the dent - regardless of what's been said
>> here...
>>
>
>May just have to cut the lid to suit then the coating won't get damaged.
Without anyone getting overly excited at my comment
being unwarranted critique of skill levels might I say that
the owner of a nonstick alum alloy 'pan who was not possessed
of the skill to "dolly and hammer" the 'injury' (as described),
returning the vessel to serviceable use had best........
buy another fskn 'pan ensuring saving himself - and this
cross-posted thread the B/W!
/rolls eyes
I mean, really... really...
.. bless my brothel keeping Aunt for her efficiencies :-/
george
The Revd wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:16:21 +0100, "john thompson"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid will
>> not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>>
>> The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My thumbs
>> are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid to fit
>> on.
>>
>> Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, without
>> damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. Grateful for
>> any suggestion. Thanks.
>
> Does it really matter if you damage the non stick coating at the top
> of the pan (other than for cosmetic reasons)? They're not made to be
> used full.
IME the non stick coating last about two cooks anyway.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In uk.rec.cars.maintenance [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Saucepans are cheap....buy another.
>
> The OP said the pan was 3mm thick. That's a pretty hefty pan, which
> would imply a fairly hefty price and thus worth an attempt at repair.
I doubt if a quick belt with a mallet would damage a non-stick surface if it
hasn't been damaged when the accident happened.
On 7/25/2011 12:05 AM, Frank Erskine wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:37:30 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:16:21 +0100, "john thompson"<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid will
>>> not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>>>
>>> The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My thumbs
>>> are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid to fit
>>> on.
>>>
>>> Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, without
>>> damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. Grateful for
>>> any suggestion. Thanks.
>>>
>>
>> I've done this myself. :)
>>
>> The dent sounds small enough to grab it with a large vice-grip or Channel-lock
>> and bend it back out till the lid fits.
>>
>> Use some scrap wood ( I often use popsicle sticks) or something to protect the
>> surfaces.
>>
>> You could also cut out a wood disc section of the same diameter with your jigsaw
>> and clamp that into your bench vice, and then gently hammer the edge against
>> this to restore it. You could put vinyl tape or leather over the wood and the
>> hammer head for protection. The harder you have to hit, the more protection you
>> need.
>
> Is it _really_ worth all the bother for an aluminium pan?
>
Where's a tinker when you need one?
--
"Shit this is it, all the pieces do fit.
We're like that crazy old man jumping
out of the alleyway with a baseball bat,
saying, "Remember me motherfucker?"
Jim Dandy Mangrum
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:16:21 +0100, "john thompson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid will
>not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>
>The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My thumbs
>are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid to fit
>on.
>
>Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, without
>damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. Grateful for
>any suggestion. Thanks.
>
Bearing in mind that the OP is heavily cross-posted and that "john
thompson" hasn't yet returned to this thread or the cross-posted
strimmer or baseball bat threads either and I could be talking to
myself here, my chosen method would be to drop the lid onto the
kitchen floor from the same height at the same angle as the saucepan
and try to knock a flattening into that too.
If it's good enough for teapot lids to have a flat on the
circumference then I reckon it's good enough for teflon-coated 3mm
thick ally pans too.
Nick
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:16:21 +0100, john thompson wrote:
> An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid
> will not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
Is it flat or is the pan now oval? Draw around the pan, rotate it
90deg about its centre and draw around again. If the two drawn lines
stay ontop of each other excpet where the "flat" is then the pan is
still circular.
If it's now oval the flat will be on the narrow oval dimension. Try
pushing(*) on the wider oval dimension ie across the side at 90 deg
to where the flat is.
(*) Pushing may mean *gently* standing on the edge of the pan. Use
bits of scrap wood to protect the pan and the floor.
--
Cheers
Dave.
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 10:16:21 +0100, "john thompson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>An aluminium saucepan was dropped on the kitchen floor and now the lid will
>not fit on, due to a fairly small flattening of one side.
>
>The saucepan is 16cm in diameter and the aluminium is 3 mm thick. My thumbs
>are just not strong enought to push the side out enough for the lid to fit
>on.
>
>Cannot think of a way to get a good leverage on it to re-shape it, without
>damaging the non stick coating on the inside of the saucepan. Grateful for
>any suggestion. Thanks.
I've used a rubber mallet and/or a broomstick on dents like that.
Support the edges where the flat starts and push out on the center of
the flat area. The flat comes out pretty easily, so take care. Slow,
firm pressure works best for me. YMMV
--
Self-development is a higher duty than self-sacrifice.
-- Elizabeth Cady Stanton