Pp

Puckdropper

25/07/2011 8:07 AM

Shop Hazard

In recent months, I've had to deal with a new shop hazard. It's about the
size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. Rather than sending a small
piece of wood flying, though, it sends itself.

A table saw doesn't have a conscience, and will bite you if you treat it
wrong. This shop hazard may or may not have a conscience, but is just
plain mean. It'll poke you to see if you're paying attention, it'll walk
all over you just to irritate, and very possibly enjoys doing it!

Irradication is proving difficult, as any attempts at irradication just
shifts the problem to another location. Attempts to trap it at the other
location are usually met with failure. Push sticks, sacrificial blocks,
overblade guards are all effective at reducing table saw hazards, but
nothing seems to work on this hazard.

If only I could just swat that fly.


This topic has 40 replies

Ll

Leon

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 6:32 PM

On 7/25/2011 5:19 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 7/25/2011 2:24 PM, Leon wrote:
> ...
>
>> ... Because the teeth
>> have flat surfaces the light has to be just right to see the shiny
>> surface.
> ...
>
> And, which reinforces the point--it takes a specific set of lighting
> conditions hence it's not at all unusual that the other poster to whom I
> responded also doesn't notice that there's much "shiny" on a carbide tip.

Ok you realize that the shiny that I am talking about does not produce
rather it reflects light. I had no special lighting conditions, but to
get the reflection you have to be a the proper angle from the surface. A
rotating saw blade give you s shine spot many times during a single
rotation.

If you don't understand this I give up.



Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 12:57 PM

Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 7/25/2011 3:07 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
>> In recent months, I've had to deal with a new shop hazard. It's
>> about the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. Rather than
>> sending a small piece of wood flying, though, it sends itself.
>>
>> A table saw doesn't have a conscience, and will bite you if you treat
>> it wrong. This shop hazard may or may not have a conscience, but is
>> just plain mean. It'll poke you to see if you're paying attention,
>> it'll walk all over you just to irritate, and very possibly enjoys
>> doing it!
>>
>> Irradication is proving difficult, as any attempts at irradication
>> just shifts the problem to another location. Attempts to trap it at
>> the other location are usually met with failure. Push sticks,
>> sacrificial blocks, overblade guards are all effective at reducing
>> table saw hazards, but nothing seems to work on this hazard.
>>
>> If only I could just swat that fly.
>
> So is this a riddle?
>

Just a whimsical way of complaining about a fly... but if you want to use
it as such have fun.

Puckdropper

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 12:58 PM

Gerald Ross <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> Do you have a dust collector? A hose connected to one is good for
> grabbing flying insects.
>

Oh! Is that why Bill Pentz recommends the 6" hose for dust collection? To
make it easier to catch flying insects?

Puckdropper

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 9:43 PM

Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
>
> the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. The shiny part got
> me, Idon't see many shiny flys. ;~)

We've got two (at least) colors of flies around here. One is your standard
black housefly (fruit fly?) and the other has a shiny gold back (a rich
one?).

Puckdropper

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

26/07/2011 5:00 AM

Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:27:29 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Jul 25, 8:06 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>>> P.S: It's "eradication"  
>>
>>Irradication is the same as eradication, except it is done with tiny
>>nuclear devices.
>
> Nuke the li'l bastids, eh? Cool. Animated GIF at 11?
>
> --
> [Television is] the triumph of machine over people.
> -- Fred Allen

I see why it was so hard. I was just trying to swat the bugger, when I
needed a small nuclear reactor!

Puckdropper

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

26/07/2011 10:45 PM

"Twayne" <[email protected]> wrote in news:j0mqqt$8s2$1@dont-
email.me:

>
> And your rec.wooworking question is?
>

The fly was gone last night, do you think all this discussion scared it
off?

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 7:35 PM

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:11:30 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 7/25/2011 3:07 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
>> In recent months, I've had to deal with a new shop hazard. It's about the
>> size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. Rather than sending a small
>> piece of wood flying, though, it sends itself.
>>
>> A table saw doesn't have a conscience, and will bite you if you treat it
>> wrong. This shop hazard may or may not have a conscience, but is just
>> plain mean. It'll poke you to see if you're paying attention, it'll walk
>> all over you just to irritate, and very possibly enjoys doing it!
>>
>> Irradication is proving difficult, as any attempts at irradication just
>> shifts the problem to another location. Attempts to trap it at the other
>> location are usually met with failure. Push sticks, sacrificial blocks,
>> overblade guards are all effective at reducing table saw hazards, but
>> nothing seems to work on this hazard.
>>
>> If only I could just swat that fly.
>
>So is this a riddle?

Yeah, it's called
"How do you keep a [insert ethnicity of choice here] in suspense?"

--
[Television is] the triumph of machine over people.
-- Fred Allen

SS

Stuart

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

28/07/2011 8:44 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
> On 7/26/2011 5:45 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> > "Twayne"<[email protected]> wrote in news:j0mqqt$8s2$1@dont-
> > email.me:
> >
> >>
> >> And your rec.wooworking question is?
> >>
> >
> > The fly was gone last night, do you think all this discussion scared it
> > off?

> Probably died of old age.

Nah, it was that big fat spider lurking in that dark corner wot did it.

--
Stuart Winsor

Midland RISC OS show - Sat July 9th 2011

http://mug.riscos.org/show11/MUGshow.html

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

26/07/2011 6:22 AM

On 26 Jul 2011 05:00:28 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

>Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:27:29 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Jul 25, 8:06 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>>>> P.S: It's "eradication"  
>>>
>>>Irradication is the same as eradication, except it is done with tiny
>>>nuclear devices.
>>
>> Nuke the li'l bastids, eh? Cool. Animated GIF at 11?
>
>I see why it was so hard. I was just trying to swat the bugger, when I
>needed a small nuclear reactor!

Right. Nuke 'em 'til they glow, then swat 'em in the dark, when they
can't see it coming.

--
Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air…
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

26/07/2011 7:24 AM

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 06:33:05 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Jul 26, 9:22 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> On 26 Jul 2011 05:00:28 GMT, Puckdropper
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>> >Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
>> >news:[email protected]:
>>
>> >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:27:29 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >>>On Jul 25, 8:06 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>> >>>> P.S: It's "eradication"  
>>
>> >>>Irradication is the same as eradication, except it is done with tiny
>> >>>nuclear devices.
>>
>> >> Nuke the li'l bastids, eh?  Cool.  Animated GIF at 11?
>>
>> >I see why it was so hard.  I was just trying to swat the bugger, when I
>> >needed a small nuclear reactor!
>>
>> Right. Nuke 'em 'til they glow, then swat 'em in the dark, when they
>> can't see it coming.
>>
>
>I was thinking more along the lines of a nuclear hand grenade.... It
>doesn't need to be pointed out that one would need one hell of an arm.

Holy Hand Grenades of Antioch are just as effective and much, much
safer, I believe, as long as one knows how to count.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOrgLj9lOwk

--
Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air…
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

26/07/2011 6:33 AM

On Jul 26, 9:22=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 26 Jul 2011 05:00:28 GMT, Puckdropper
>
>
>
>
>
> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> >Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
> >news:[email protected]:
>
> >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:27:29 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>On Jul 25, 8:06=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> >>>> P.S: It's "eradication" =A0
>
> >>>Irradication is the same as eradication, except it is done with tiny
> >>>nuclear devices.
>
> >> Nuke the li'l bastids, eh? =A0Cool. =A0Animated GIF at 11?
>
> >I see why it was so hard. =A0I was just trying to swat the bugger, when =
I
> >needed a small nuclear reactor!
>
> Right. Nuke 'em 'til they glow, then swat 'em in the dark, when they
> can't see it coming.
>

I was thinking more along the lines of a nuclear hand grenade.... It
doesn't need to be pointed out that one would need one hell of an arm.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 7:37 PM

On 25 Jul 2011 13:22:14 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:

>Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On 7/25/2011 3:07 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
>>>> In recent months, I've had to deal with a new shop hazard. It's
>>>> about the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. Rather than
>>>> sending a small piece of wood flying, though, it sends itself.
>>>>
>>>> A table saw doesn't have a conscience, and will bite you if you
>>>> treat it wrong. This shop hazard may or may not have a conscience,
>>>> but is just plain mean. It'll poke you to see if you're paying
>>>> attention, it'll walk all over you just to irritate, and very
>>>> possibly enjoys doing it!
>>>>
>>>> Irradication is proving difficult, as any attempts at irradication
>>>> just shifts the problem to another location. Attempts to trap it at
>>>> the other location are usually met with failure. Push sticks,
>>>> sacrificial blocks, overblade guards are all effective at reducing
>>>> table saw hazards, but nothing seems to work on this hazard.
>>>>
>>>> If only I could just swat that fly.
>>>
>>> So is this a riddle?
>>>
>>
>> Just a whimsical way of complaining about a fly... but if you want to
>> use it as such have fun.
>>
>> Puckdropper
>
>Glad you clarified that. I couldn't figure out what I should be doing
>different to prevent a carbide tooth flying off my saw from hitting my
>sensitive parts (eyes, fingers and such - the other stuff I don't care
>about anymore - hmpfff).

The true ninja wooddorker uses miniature HSS shuriken blades when he
throws them at the flies. They don't lose their teeth.

--
Win first, Fight later.

--martial principle of the Samurai

bb

beecrofter

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

27/07/2011 6:44 PM

You are probably absorbing enough of the cobalt binder in the carbide
so the finger falls off by itself.

Smack it with a hammer it's brittle.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

26/07/2011 5:58 PM

On 7/26/2011 5:45 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> "Twayne"<[email protected]> wrote in news:j0mqqt$8s2$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
>>
>> And your rec.wooworking question is?
>>
>
> The fly was gone last night, do you think all this discussion scared it
> off?

Probably died of old age.

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 12:31 PM

dpb wrote:
> On 7/25/2011 8:45 AM, Leon wrote:
> ...
>
>> the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. The shiny part got me,
>> Idon't see many shiny flys. ;~)
>
> I don't see much shine on carbide, typically, either... :)
>
> --
I have a ring made of tungsten carbide and it shines like a new penny.
After a week or wearing it the thought hit me:--if I injure the
finger and they need to cut the ring off, how will they do it? I'm
serious. A standard ring cutter uses a wheel with teeth like hacksaw
teeth. Would a big bolt cutter break it? Inquiring minds want to know.

--
Gerald Ross

Aging is not bad. The real killer is
when you stop.





GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 6:21 AM

Puckdropper wrote:
> In recent months, I've had to deal with a new shop hazard. It's about the
> size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. Rather than sending a small
> piece of wood flying, though, it sends itself.
>
> A table saw doesn't have a conscience, and will bite you if you treat it
> wrong. This shop hazard may or may not have a conscience, but is just
> plain mean. It'll poke you to see if you're paying attention, it'll walk
> all over you just to irritate, and very possibly enjoys doing it!
>
> Irradication is proving difficult, as any attempts at irradication just
> shifts the problem to another location. Attempts to trap it at the other
> location are usually met with failure. Push sticks, sacrificial blocks,
> overblade guards are all effective at reducing table saw hazards, but
> nothing seems to work on this hazard.
>
> If only I could just swat that fly.

Do you have a dust collector? A hose connected to one is good for
grabbing flying insects.

--
Gerald Ross

Aging is not bad. The real killer is
when you stop.





JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

26/07/2011 9:32 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Puckdropper says...
>
> Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:27:29 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>On Jul 25, 8:06 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> >>> P.S: It's "eradication"  
> >>
> >>Irradication is the same as eradication, except it is done with tiny
> >>nuclear devices.
> >
> > Nuke the li'l bastids, eh? Cool. Animated GIF at 11?
> >
> > --
> > [Television is] the triumph of machine over people.
> > -- Fred Allen
>
> I see why it was so hard. I was just trying to swat the bugger, when I
> needed a small nuclear reactor!

You laugh, but it's been done--irradiate fruit flies so that they're
sterile then turn them loose to mate with female fruit flies who fail to
become pregnant. It wasn't called "irradication" but I suspect that
that's because nobody thought of it.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 1:27 PM

On 7/25/2011 8:52 AM, dpb wrote:
> On 7/25/2011 8:45 AM, Leon wrote:
> ...
>
>> the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. The shiny part got me,
>> Idon't see many shiny flys. ;~)
>
> I don't see much shine on carbide, typically, either... :)
>
> --

You need to clean you blade!

Hn

Han

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 1:22 PM

Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 7/25/2011 3:07 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
>>> In recent months, I've had to deal with a new shop hazard. It's
>>> about the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. Rather than
>>> sending a small piece of wood flying, though, it sends itself.
>>>
>>> A table saw doesn't have a conscience, and will bite you if you
>>> treat it wrong. This shop hazard may or may not have a conscience,
>>> but is just plain mean. It'll poke you to see if you're paying
>>> attention, it'll walk all over you just to irritate, and very
>>> possibly enjoys doing it!
>>>
>>> Irradication is proving difficult, as any attempts at irradication
>>> just shifts the problem to another location. Attempts to trap it at
>>> the other location are usually met with failure. Push sticks,
>>> sacrificial blocks, overblade guards are all effective at reducing
>>> table saw hazards, but nothing seems to work on this hazard.
>>>
>>> If only I could just swat that fly.
>>
>> So is this a riddle?
>>
>
> Just a whimsical way of complaining about a fly... but if you want to
> use it as such have fun.
>
> Puckdropper

Glad you clarified that. I couldn't figure out what I should be doing
different to prevent a carbide tooth flying off my saw from hitting my
sensitive parts (eyes, fingers and such - the other stuff I don't care
about anymore - hmpfff).

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

26/07/2011 9:23 AM

On Jul 26, 10:24=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 06:33:05 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Jul 26, 9:22 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >> On 26 Jul 2011 05:00:28 GMT, Puckdropper
>
> >> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> >> >Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
> >> >news:[email protected]:
>
> >> >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:27:29 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >>>On Jul 25, 8:06 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]=
>
> >> >>>> P.S: It's "eradication"
>
> >> >>>Irradication is the same as eradication, except it is done with tin=
y
> >> >>>nuclear devices.
>
> >> >> Nuke the li'l bastids, eh? Cool. Animated GIF at 11?
>
> >> >I see why it was so hard. I was just trying to swat the bugger, when =
I
> >> >needed a small nuclear reactor!
>
> >> Right. Nuke 'em 'til they glow, then swat 'em in the dark, when they
> >> can't see it coming.
>
> >I was thinking more along the lines of a nuclear hand grenade.... It
> >doesn't need to be pointed out that one would need one hell of an arm.
>
> Holy Hand Grenades of Antioch are just as effective and much, much
> safer, I believe, as long as one knows how to count.

To three that is...not two...not four..... one of my favourite parts
of the movie.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 8:45 AM

On 7/25/2011 7:57 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 7/25/2011 3:07 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
>>> In recent months, I've had to deal with a new shop hazard. It's
>>> about the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. Rather than
>>> sending a small piece of wood flying, though, it sends itself.
>>>
>>> A table saw doesn't have a conscience, and will bite you if you treat
>>> it wrong. This shop hazard may or may not have a conscience, but is
>>> just plain mean. It'll poke you to see if you're paying attention,
>>> it'll walk all over you just to irritate, and very possibly enjoys
>>> doing it!
>>>
>>> Irradication is proving difficult, as any attempts at irradication
>>> just shifts the problem to another location. Attempts to trap it at
>>> the other location are usually met with failure. Push sticks,
>>> sacrificial blocks, overblade guards are all effective at reducing
>>> table saw hazards, but nothing seems to work on this hazard.
>>>
>>> If only I could just swat that fly.
>>
>> So is this a riddle?
>>
>
> Just a whimsical way of complaining about a fly... but if you want to use
> it as such have fun.
>
> Puckdropper


the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. The shiny part got
me, Idon't see many shiny flys. ;~)

Ll

Leon

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 1:55 PM

On 7/25/2011 1:53 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 7/25/2011 1:27 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 7/25/2011 8:52 AM, dpb wrote:
>>> On 7/25/2011 8:45 AM, Leon wrote:
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. The shiny part got me,
>>>> Idon't see many shiny flys. ;~)
>>>
>>> I don't see much shine on carbide, typically, either... :)
> ...
>> You need to clean you blade!
>
> <http://www.amazon.com/Blade-Carbide-Tipped-Tooth-Woodworker/dp/B0032YUUEM>
>
> Brand new picture and the carbide tips are far less "shiny" than the
> teeth they're attached to...
>
> --
>
I only use Forrest blades. The carbide does indeed have a shine if not
a bit of sparkle when clean and new. A picture is not going to show squat.

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 6:27 AM

On Jul 25, 8:06=A0am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 25 Jul 2011 08:07:52 GMT, Puckdropper
>
>
>
>
>
> <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> >In recent months, I've had to deal with a new shop hazard. =A0It's about=
the
> >size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. =A0Rather than sending a smal=
l
> >piece of wood flying, though, it sends itself. =A0
>
> >A table saw doesn't have a conscience, and will bite you if you treat it
> >wrong. =A0This shop hazard may or may not have a conscience, but is just
> >plain mean. =A0It'll poke you to see if you're paying attention, it'll w=
alk
> >all over you just to irritate, and very possibly enjoys doing it!
>
> >Irradication is proving difficult, as any attempts at irradication just
> >shifts the problem to another location. =A0Attempts to trap it at the ot=
her
> >location are usually met with failure. =A0Push sticks, sacrificial block=
s,
> >overblade guards are all effective at reducing table saw hazards, but
> >nothing seems to work on this hazard.
>
> >If only I could just swat that fly.
>
> Full face mask, muffs, and long sleeves will git-r-done, Pucky.
>
> Alternatively, insulate the shop, install a 5kw window A/C unit, and
> close the bloody door, ya foo.
>
> P.S: It's "eradication" =A0

Irradication is the same as eradication, except it is done with tiny
nuclear devices.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 5:06 AM

On 25 Jul 2011 08:07:52 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

>In recent months, I've had to deal with a new shop hazard. It's about the
>size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. Rather than sending a small
>piece of wood flying, though, it sends itself.
>
>A table saw doesn't have a conscience, and will bite you if you treat it
>wrong. This shop hazard may or may not have a conscience, but is just
>plain mean. It'll poke you to see if you're paying attention, it'll walk
>all over you just to irritate, and very possibly enjoys doing it!
>
>Irradication is proving difficult, as any attempts at irradication just
>shifts the problem to another location. Attempts to trap it at the other
>location are usually met with failure. Push sticks, sacrificial blocks,
>overblade guards are all effective at reducing table saw hazards, but
>nothing seems to work on this hazard.
>
>If only I could just swat that fly.

Full face mask, muffs, and long sleeves will git-r-done, Pucky.

Alternatively, insulate the shop, install a 5kw window A/C unit, and
close the bloody door, ya foo.


P.S: It's "eradication"

P.P.S: Or try a window fly trap such as:

Rescue FTD-DB12 Disposable Fly Control Trap with Attractant
$4 online
Catches Common Nuisance and Filth Flies Includes House Flies - Blow
Flies - Flesh Flies - Face Flies and Others Powder Attactant Is
Contained Within The Trap Itself Attractant Dissolves and Activates
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The Bait Or The Flies Completely Disposable
http://goo.gl/Gs4kg

--
[Television is] the triumph of machine over people.
-- Fred Allen

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Larry Jaques on 25/07/2011 5:06 AM

27/07/2011 6:11 AM

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:23:33 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Jul 26, 10:24 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>wrote:

>> Holy Hand Grenades of Antioch are just as effective and much, much
>> safer, I believe, as long as one knows how to count.
>
>To three that is...not two...not four..... one of my favourite parts
>of the movie.

So THAT'S where you learned to count! How nice.

--
Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air…
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

dn

dpb

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 8:52 AM

On 7/25/2011 8:45 AM, Leon wrote:
...

> the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. The shiny part got me,
> Idon't see many shiny flys. ;~)

I don't see much shine on carbide, typically, either... :)

--

dn

dpb

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 11:43 AM

On 7/25/2011 11:31 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
> dpb wrote:
>> On 7/25/2011 8:45 AM, Leon wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. The shiny part got me,
>>> Idon't see many shiny flys. ;~)
>>
>> I don't see much shine on carbide, typically, either... :)
>>
>> --
> I have a ring made of tungsten carbide and it shines like a new penny.
> After a week or wearing it the thought hit me:--if I injure the finger
> and they need to cut the ring off, how will they do it? I'm serious. A
> standard ring cutter uses a wheel with teeth like hacksaw teeth. Would a
> big bolt cutter break it? Inquiring minds want to know.

Generally tool carbide isn't so highly polished as would be jewelry,
though...

As for the latter question I've no firm knowledge of how an EMT would
deal w/ it but I'm sure they would figure it out...

--


dn

dpb

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 1:53 PM

On 7/25/2011 1:27 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 7/25/2011 8:52 AM, dpb wrote:
>> On 7/25/2011 8:45 AM, Leon wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. The shiny part got me,
>>> Idon't see many shiny flys. ;~)
>>
>> I don't see much shine on carbide, typically, either... :)
...
> You need to clean you blade!

<http://www.amazon.com/Blade-Carbide-Tipped-Tooth-Woodworker/dp/B0032YUUEM>

Brand new picture and the carbide tips are far less "shiny" than the
teeth they're attached to...

--

dn

dpb

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 1:59 PM

On 7/25/2011 1:55 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 7/25/2011 1:53 PM, dpb wrote:
>> On 7/25/2011 1:27 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 7/25/2011 8:52 AM, dpb wrote:
>>>> On 7/25/2011 8:45 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. The shiny part got me,
>>>>> Idon't see many shiny flys. ;~)
>>>>
>>>> I don't see much shine on carbide, typically, either... :)
>> ...
>>> You need to clean you blade!
>>
>> <http://www.amazon.com/Blade-Carbide-Tipped-Tooth-Woodworker/dp/B0032YUUEM>
>>
>>
>> Brand new picture and the carbide tips are far less "shiny" than the
>> teeth they're attached to...
>>
>> --
>>
> I only use Forrest blades. The carbide does indeed have a shine if not a
> bit of sparkle when clean and new. A picture is not going to show squat.

I don't use "only" Forrest blades but I certainly have some in the
collection.

The picture "squat" shows there's little light reflection from the
carbide tips relative to the blade body and teeth...else't if they were
"shiny" they would be the brights, not the darks.

--

dn

dpb

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 5:19 PM

On 7/25/2011 2:24 PM, Leon wrote:
...

> ... Because the teeth
> have flat surfaces the light has to be just right to see the shiny surface.
...

And, which reinforces the point--it takes a specific set of lighting
conditions hence it's not at all unusual that the other poster to whom I
responded also doesn't notice that there's much "shiny" on a carbide tip.

It's the same type of lighting selection that is used to make ordinary
steam from stacks or cooling towers frighten the gullible--in general
the blade looks much like the marketing picture I linked to rather than
anything else...

--

BB

Bill

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 7:25 PM

Puckdropper wrote:
> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>>
>> the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. The shiny part got
>> me, Idon't see many shiny flys. ;~)
>
> We've got two (at least) colors of flies around here. One is your standard
> black housefly (fruit fly?) and the other has a shiny gold back (a rich
> one?).
>
> Puckdropper

Due to the economy, we're just barely getting by on the standard one's
here. Nothing fancy.

Bill

Tn

"Twayne"

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

26/07/2011 12:43 PM

In news:[email protected],
Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> typed:
> In recent months, I've had to deal with a new shop
> hazard. It's about the size of a carbide tooth and just
> as shiny. Rather than sending a small piece of wood
> flying, though, it sends itself.
>
> A table saw doesn't have a conscience, and will bite you
> if you treat it wrong. This shop hazard may or may not
> have a conscience, but is just plain mean. It'll poke
> you to see if you're paying attention, it'll walk all
> over you just to irritate, and very possibly enjoys doing
> it!
>
> Irradication is proving difficult, as any attempts at
> irradication just shifts the problem to another location.
> Attempts to trap it at the other location are usually met
> with failure. Push sticks, sacrificial blocks, overblade
> guards are all effective at reducing table saw hazards,
> but nothing seems to work on this hazard.
>
> If only I could just swat that fly.

And your rec.wooworking question is?

EE

"Eric"

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

26/07/2011 10:20 PM



"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

dpb wrote:
> On 7/25/2011 8:45 AM, Leon wrote:
> ...
>
>> the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. The shiny part got me,
>> Idon't see many shiny flys. ;~)
>
> I don't see much shine on carbide, typically, either... :)
>
> --
I have a ring made of tungsten carbide and it shines like a new penny.
After a week or wearing it the thought hit me:--if I injure the
finger and they need to cut the ring off, how will they do it? I'm
serious. A standard ring cutter uses a wheel with teeth like hacksaw
teeth. Would a big bolt cutter break it? Inquiring minds want to know.

=====================

Very easily. The same as any carbide breaks, as a mason does it. Put a small
anvil on the back of it and smack it with a hardened tool tip. It shatters
with impact. This is why you protect you router bits so well.

--

Eric



LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

27/07/2011 6:13 AM

On 26 Jul 2011 22:45:09 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

>"Twayne" <[email protected]> wrote in news:j0mqqt$8s2$1@dont-
>email.me:
>
>>
>> And your rec.wooworking question is?
>>
>
>The fly was gone last night, do you think all this discussion scared it
>off?

It was likely carried off in the hot air draft created by the thread,
Pucky. Not to worry, there'll be more today.

--
Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air…
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Ll

Leon

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 2:24 PM

On 7/25/2011 1:59 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 7/25/2011 1:55 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 7/25/2011 1:53 PM, dpb wrote:
>>> On 7/25/2011 1:27 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 7/25/2011 8:52 AM, dpb wrote:
>>>>> On 7/25/2011 8:45 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. The shiny part got me,
>>>>>> Idon't see many shiny flys. ;~)
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't see much shine on carbide, typically, either... :)
>>> ...
>>>> You need to clean you blade!
>>>
>>> <http://www.amazon.com/Blade-Carbide-Tipped-Tooth-Woodworker/dp/B0032YUUEM>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brand new picture and the carbide tips are far less "shiny" than the
>>> teeth they're attached to...
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>> I only use Forrest blades. The carbide does indeed have a shine if not a
>> bit of sparkle when clean and new. A picture is not going to show squat.
>
> I don't use "only" Forrest blades but I certainly have some in the
> collection.
>
> The picture "squat" shows there's little light reflection from the
> carbide tips relative to the blade body and teeth...else't if they were
> "shiny" they would be the brights, not the darks.
>
> --
Even a diamond is not going to sparkle or shine with out proper light.

Try this on, it is my never been cleaned or resharpened 8 month old
WWII. The clean resharpened ones reflect even more. Notice the tooth
near the bottom. That is a reflection of the fluorescent lamp over
head. While the camera picture does not show it with the bare eye you
can see the direction that the lamps run in the reflection. Because
the teeth have flat surfaces the light has to be just right to see the
shiny surface.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5974742585/in/photostream/lightbox/

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 7:38 PM

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 12:31:20 -0400, Gerald Ross <[email protected]>
wrote:

>dpb wrote:
>> On 7/25/2011 8:45 AM, Leon wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. The shiny part got me,
>>> Idon't see many shiny flys. ;~)
>>
>> I don't see much shine on carbide, typically, either... :)
>>
>> --
>I have a ring made of tungsten carbide and it shines like a new penny.
> After a week or wearing it the thought hit me:--if I injure the
>finger and they need to cut the ring off, how will they do it? I'm
>serious. A standard ring cutter uses a wheel with teeth like hacksaw
>teeth. Would a big bolt cutter break it? Inquiring minds want to know.

I vote for an induction heating unit!

--
Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air…
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Ll

Leon

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 7:11 AM

On 7/25/2011 3:07 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
> In recent months, I've had to deal with a new shop hazard. It's about the
> size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. Rather than sending a small
> piece of wood flying, though, it sends itself.
>
> A table saw doesn't have a conscience, and will bite you if you treat it
> wrong. This shop hazard may or may not have a conscience, but is just
> plain mean. It'll poke you to see if you're paying attention, it'll walk
> all over you just to irritate, and very possibly enjoys doing it!
>
> Irradication is proving difficult, as any attempts at irradication just
> shifts the problem to another location. Attempts to trap it at the other
> location are usually met with failure. Push sticks, sacrificial blocks,
> overblade guards are all effective at reducing table saw hazards, but
> nothing seems to work on this hazard.
>
> If only I could just swat that fly.

So is this a riddle?

kk

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

26/07/2011 10:43 PM

On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:20:33 -0400, "Eric"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>dpb wrote:
>> On 7/25/2011 8:45 AM, Leon wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. The shiny part got me,
>>> Idon't see many shiny flys. ;~)
>>
>> I don't see much shine on carbide, typically, either... :)
>>
>> --
>I have a ring made of tungsten carbide and it shines like a new penny.
> After a week or wearing it the thought hit me:--if I injure the
>finger and they need to cut the ring off, how will they do it? I'm
>serious. A standard ring cutter uses a wheel with teeth like hacksaw
>teeth. Would a big bolt cutter break it? Inquiring minds want to know.
>
>=====================
>
>Very easily. The same as any carbide breaks, as a mason does it. Put a small
>anvil on the back of it and smack it with a hardened tool tip. It shatters
>with impact. This is why you protect you router bits so well.

Catch the Youtube video that was discussed here a few days back. It's a
simple matter with Visegrips and there is no chance of taking the finger off
with it. ;-)

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 7:33 PM

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:27:29 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Jul 25, 8:06 am, Larry Jaques <[email protected]>
>> P.S: It's "eradication"  
>
>Irradication is the same as eradication, except it is done with tiny
>nuclear devices.

Nuke the li'l bastids, eh? Cool. Animated GIF at 11?

--
[Television is] the triumph of machine over people.
-- Fred Allen

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to Puckdropper on 25/07/2011 8:07 AM

25/07/2011 12:44 PM

Gerald Ross wrote:
> dpb wrote:
>> On 7/25/2011 8:45 AM, Leon wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> the size of a carbide tooth and just as shiny. The shiny part got me,
>>> Idon't see many shiny flys. ;~)
>>
>> I don't see much shine on carbide, typically, either... :)
>>
>> --
> I have a ring made of tungsten carbide and it shines like a new penny.
> After a week or wearing it the thought hit me:--if I injure the
> finger and they need to cut the ring off, how will they do it? I'm
> serious. A standard ring cutter uses a wheel with teeth like hacksaw
> teeth. Would a big bolt cutter break it? Inquiring minds want to know.
>
Shouda looked it up first. Duh! They use a pair of vise-grips. Nice
video on U-tube.

--
Gerald Ross

Aging is not bad. The real killer is
when you stop.






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