pyotr filipivich <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> Use an X-acto knife. Leaves a cleaner finish, too.
You just have to really watch for its tendency to wander. It'll find the
grain and go whatever way it wants.
X-actos wander even on relatively grain free surfaces like sheet styrene.
Good technique helps, as does a good straight edge.
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 17:52:23 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 9/15/2018 12:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 8:58:20 AM UTC-4, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
>>> On 9/14/2018 11:40 PM, Markem wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 17:41:45 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/14/2018 5:11 PM, MOP CAP wrote:
>>>>>> I would like to make some 3/4" deep by 5" by 5" recesses in 2" by
>>>>>> pinkwood 2 by 6 's. Other than with router how can this be done? The
>>>>>> recess will only be 3 sided, cut in from one edge.
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> CP
>>>>>
>>>>> Chisel and mallet
>>>>
>>>> Maybe predrill most of the waste out, then finish with the chisel and
>>>> mallet. But I do it with a router, then the chisel to square it up.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed that's the best way to do it, but. . . OP wants to do it the
>>> hard way. LOL! ;)
>>
>> Actually the hard way would be to resaw the 2 x 6, notch the 3/4" piece on
>> the table saw, then glue it back together. If the wood loss to the resaw kerf
>> is essential to the finished product, then it gets even harder. ;-)
>>
>
>Would a domino help? Actually, if one had one handy and went about the
>task thoughtfully, they could do all but the cleanup with the domino.
Actually you could use a dado on a tablesaw or RAS, you have to set up
a stop and move the fence a bunch, the length of a 2x6 needs support.
In the end you still need to cleanup with a chisel.
On 9/15/2018 12:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 8:58:20 AM UTC-4, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
>> On 9/14/2018 11:40 PM, Markem wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 17:41:45 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/14/2018 5:11 PM, MOP CAP wrote:
>>>>> I would like to make some 3/4" deep by 5" by 5" recesses in 2" by
>>>>> pinkwood 2 by 6 's. Other than with router how can this be done? The
>>>>> recess will only be 3 sided, cut in from one edge.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> CP
>>>>
>>>> Chisel and mallet
>>>
>>> Maybe predrill most of the waste out, then finish with the chisel and
>>> mallet. But I do it with a router, then the chisel to square it up.
>>>
>>
>> Agreed that's the best way to do it, but. . . OP wants to do it the
>> hard way. LOL! ;)
>
> Actually the hard way would be to resaw the 2 x 6, notch the 3/4" piece on
> the table saw, then glue it back together. If the wood loss to the resaw kerf
> is essential to the finished product, then it gets even harder. ;-)
>
Would a domino help? Actually, if one had one handy and went about the
task thoughtfully, they could do all but the cleanup with the domino.
On 9/14/2018 11:40 PM, Markem wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 17:41:45 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 9/14/2018 5:11 PM, MOP CAP wrote:
>>> I would like to make some 3/4" deep by 5" by 5" recesses in 2" by
>>> pinkwood 2 by 6 's. Other than with router how can this be done? The
>>> recess will only be 3 sided, cut in from one edge.
>>> Thanks
>>> CP
>>
>> Chisel and mallet
>
> Maybe predrill most of the waste out, then finish with the chisel and
> mallet. But I do it with a router, then the chisel to square it up.
>
Agreed that's the best way to do it, but. . . OP wants to do it the
hard way. LOL! ;)
On 9/16/2018 3:03 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 17:52:23 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 9/15/2018 12:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 8:58:20 AM UTC-4, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
>>>> On 9/14/2018 11:40 PM, Markem wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 17:41:45 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
[snip]
>> Would a domino help? Actually, if one had one handy and went about the
>> task thoughtfully, they could do all but the cleanup with the domino.
>
> They could but it would be rather time consuming. 5x5 inches is 127 x
> 127 mm (with a Domino it's a lot easier to convert everything to
> metric up front). The biggest cutter is 14mm, so you need 9 separate
> cuts to get one dimension. The max cut width is 14+16.5 mm or 30.5,
> so you need 5 across (4.09 but you need to overlap a bit as well). So
> that's 45 separate cuts for each cutout. And then the edges aren't
> smooth so you still have to clean up with a chisel.
>
> You may be thinking of using it like a router--it doesn't do
> that--the cutters cut primarily on the end, the edge-cutting zone is
> very shallow--you _might_ get away with routing a half a millimeter or
> so deep, but I wouldn't unless the stakes were really, really
> high--why risk busting a very expensive specialized tool when Harbor
> Fright will sell you a usable if not necessarily durable router for
> less than the price of the Festool _cutter_.
>
I was not being serious, but rather carrying on with the Rube Goldberg
approaches to the "problem" posed by the OP and the solutions put forth
by other members of this esteemed collection of wood butchers.
We could always enlist the aid of a good geneticist or entomologist who
could get us a strain of termites who would march and gnaw in lock step
with a tiny super accurate GPS unit strapped to the thorax of their
leader. ;)
Suffice it to say the best way (IMO) to accomplish this task is with a
router and chisel for cleanup, followed, in second place, the chisel and
mallet as has been done for ages.
The Domino solution is just one of those "think outside the box" or
"work with what you have" solutions. I don't have a domino, but I do
have a P-C Biscuit cutter. I found, thinking outside the box, that it
was the be all, end all for undercutting door jambs when I refloored the
house. Worked out amazingly well in my case. Had I needed it to cut
the jambs a bit higher, a little shimming would have rendered a cut line
that was dead nuts on. I saved a ton of time and money on the job doing
it that way. Nowhere have I seen P-C recommend that as a use for the
tool, but it was ideal.
On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 8:58:20 AM UTC-4, Unquestionably Confuse=
d wrote:
> On 9/14/2018 11:40 PM, Markem wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 17:41:45 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >=20
> >> On 9/14/2018 5:11 PM, MOP CAP wrote:
> >>> I would like to make some 3/4" deep by 5" by 5" recesses in 2" by
> >>> pinkwood 2 by 6 's. Other than with=C2=A0 router how can this be done=
? The
> >>> recess will only be 3 sided, cut in from one edge.
> >>> Thanks
> >>> CP
> >>
> >> Chisel and mallet
> >=20
> > Maybe predrill most of the waste out, then finish with the chisel and
> > mallet. But I do it with a router, then the chisel to square it up.
> >=20
>=20
> Agreed that's the best way to do it, but. . . OP wants to do it the=20
> hard way. LOL! ;)
Actually the hard way would be to resaw the 2 x 6, notch the 3/4" piece on
the table saw, then glue it back together. If the wood loss to the resaw ke=
rf
is essential to the finished product, then it gets even harder. ;-)
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 17:52:23 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 9/15/2018 12:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 8:58:20 AM UTC-4, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
>>> On 9/14/2018 11:40 PM, Markem wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 17:41:45 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/14/2018 5:11 PM, MOP CAP wrote:
>>>>>> I would like to make some 3/4" deep by 5" by 5" recesses in 2" by
>>>>>> pinkwood 2 by 6 's. Other than with router how can this be done? The
>>>>>> recess will only be 3 sided, cut in from one edge.
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> CP
>>>>>
>>>>> Chisel and mallet
>>>>
>>>> Maybe predrill most of the waste out, then finish with the chisel and
>>>> mallet. But I do it with a router, then the chisel to square it up.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed that's the best way to do it, but. . . OP wants to do it the
>>> hard way. LOL! ;)
>>
>> Actually the hard way would be to resaw the 2 x 6, notch the 3/4" piece on
>> the table saw, then glue it back together. If the wood loss to the resaw kerf
>> is essential to the finished product, then it gets even harder. ;-)
>>
>
>Would a domino help? Actually, if one had one handy and went about the
>task thoughtfully, they could do all but the cleanup with the domino.
They could but it would be rather time consuming. 5x5 inches is 127 x
127 mm (with a Domino it's a lot easier to convert everything to
metric up front). The biggest cutter is 14mm, so you need 9 separate
cuts to get one dimension. The max cut width is 14+16.5 mm or 30.5,
so you need 5 across (4.09 but you need to overlap a bit as well). So
that's 45 separate cuts for each cutout. And then the edges aren't
smooth so you still have to clean up with a chisel.
You may be thinking of using it like a router--it doesn't do
that--the cutters cut primarily on the end, the edge-cutting zone is
very shallow--you _might_ get away with routing a half a millimeter or
so deep, but I wouldn't unless the stakes were really, really
high--why risk busting a very expensive specialized tool when Harbor
Fright will sell you a usable if not necessarily durable router for
less than the price of the Festool _cutter_.
Markem <[email protected]> on Sat, 15 Sep 2018 21:25:36 -0500
typed in rec.woodworking the following:
>On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 17:52:23 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On 9/15/2018 12:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 8:58:20 AM UTC-4, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
>>>> On 9/14/2018 11:40 PM, Markem wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 17:41:45 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/14/2018 5:11 PM, MOP CAP wrote:
>>>>>>> I would like to make some 3/4" deep by 5" by 5" recesses in 2" by
>>>>>>> pinkwood 2 by 6 's. Other than with router how can this be done? The
>>>>>>> recess will only be 3 sided, cut in from one edge.
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> CP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chisel and mallet
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe predrill most of the waste out, then finish with the chisel and
>>>>> mallet. But I do it with a router, then the chisel to square it up.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agreed that's the best way to do it, but. . . OP wants to do it the
>>>> hard way. LOL! ;)
>>>
>>> Actually the hard way would be to resaw the 2 x 6, notch the 3/4" piece on
>>> the table saw, then glue it back together. If the wood loss to the resaw kerf
>>> is essential to the finished product, then it gets even harder. ;-)
>>>
>>
>>Would a domino help? Actually, if one had one handy and went about the
>>task thoughtfully, they could do all but the cleanup with the domino.
>
>Actually you could use a dado on a tablesaw or RAS, you have to set up
>a stop and move the fence a bunch, the length of a 2x6 needs support.
>In the end you still need to cleanup with a chisel.
Use an X-acto knife. Leaves a cleaner finish, too.
--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:11:52 -0700, MOP CAP <[email protected]> wrote:
>I would like to make some 3/4" deep by 5" by 5" recesses in 2" by
>pinkwood 2 by 6 's. Other than with router how can this be done? The
>recess will only be 3 sided, cut in from one edge.
Three sided, cut from an edge? I missed that "cut in from one edge"
detail the first time.
You _could_ do this with any of the "multifunction tools" that are
more or less clones of the Fein Multimaster.
With the right blade you should be able to make your cut in three
passes--you can get blades that will cut two inches deep, so you could
go around the perimeter, then go across a little under 2 inches from
the end, then come in from the end and cut out one block, then again
for a second two inch block, then the last inch.
How clean it would be depends on how careful you are--if it has to be
absolutely precise then cut a little undersize and finish with a
chisel.
On 9/15/2018 8:58 AM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> On 9/14/2018 11:40 PM, Markem wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 17:41:45 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/14/2018 5:11 PM, MOP CAP wrote:
>>>> I would like to make some 3/4" deep by 5" by 5" recesses in 2" by
>>>> pinkwood 2 by 6 's. Other than with router how can this be done? The
>>>> recess will only be 3 sided, cut in from one edge.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> CP
>>>
>>> Chisel and mallet
>>
>> Â Maybe predrill most of the waste out, then finish with the chisel and
>> mallet. But I do it with a router, then the chisel to square it up.
>>
>
> Agreed that's the best way to do it, but. . . OP wants to do it the hard
> way. LOL! ;)
No, the hard way is to train 1000+ generations of mutant dwarf beavers to
gnaw out precise 5 X 5 X 3/4 recesses on demand.
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 17:41:45 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 9/14/2018 5:11 PM, MOP CAP wrote:
>> I would like to make some 3/4" deep by 5" by 5" recesses in 2" by
>> pinkwood 2 by 6 's. Other than with router how can this be done? The
>> recess will only be 3 sided, cut in from one edge.
>> Thanks
>> CP
>
>Chisel and mallet
Maybe predrill most of the waste out, then finish with the chisel and
mallet. But I do it with a router, then the chisel to square it up.