OT: Sooo true

"Morris Dovey" wrote:

> My favorite is a one-line telex I heard my 2nd-level manager at
> IBM's East Fishkill Lab dictate and order sent to his counterpart at
> the Uithoorn Lab:
>
> "Fuck you. Nasty memo follows."
------------------------------------------
Heard it was a fax:

"Fuck you, strong letter to follow."

Lew

Robatoy wrote:
> A magazine recently ran a "Dilbert Quotes" contest.
<snip>

Takes something like this to remind me why I became self employed.

Lew

"Nahmie" wrote:
Have never read "Little Dorrit", but remember a Ford mechanic in early
'50's(when they had such "better" ideas as the master cylinder under
the floorboard, requiring special tools to get to it) saying that ALL
design engineers should be required to work as mechanics for at least
1 year before being allowed near a drafting table.
-------------------------------------

I was a product of that thought, went to a co-op (work and study
periods) school which provided a chance to be exposed to several
industries while still in school.

Lew

On Jan 21, 7:57=A0pm, "LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:51:08 -0600, the infamous Swingman
> > <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> >>On 1/20/2010 9:07 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> >>> Do you think pols are bright enough for that?
>
> >>We would do well to test them beforehand ...
>
> > Instead, they test us. =A0They make promises and too many suckers fall
> > for them.
>
> > (How's that Hope & Change working for ya, Libtards?)
>
> It does not help that Journalism as we knew it is Dead.

If Journalism weren't dead Barry wouldn't have gotten anywhere close
to the WH.

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:45:35 -0600, the infamous Swingman
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On 1/19/2010 9:07 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> Hooray for the Dilbert Contest! These were all great.
>
>Everyone, repeat, EVERYONE, from kindergarten to MBA's, needs to be
>required to read Chapter 10 of Charles Dickens' "Little Dorrit" at least
>once a year,
>
>http://www.readprint.com/chapter-2800/Little-Dorrit-Charles-Dickens
>
>Those working for the government, including politicians, should be
>required to memorize it word for word, and it should be posted on all
>public buildings ... :)

Do you expect mere politicians to understand irony, satire, and/or
sensibility? Shirley ewe jest!

(Got 1/4 of the way through it when duty called.)

--
The greatest fine art of the future will be the making
of a comfortable living from a small piece of land.
--Abraham Lincoln

In article <[email protected]>, Joe
<[email protected]> wrote:

> The best Dilbert I saw was one we used to aggravate our finance
> department in my previous life.
>
> It was a picture of a guy with a pile of books under his arm. He was
> leaning hard against a door that had a "Pull" sign. Next to the door
> was another sign that said "School for the Gifted".

Far Side, not Dilbert.

On Jan 19, 9:45=A0am, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/19/2010 9:07 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> > Hooray for the Dilbert Contest! =A0These were all great.
>
> Everyone, repeat, EVERYONE, from kindergarten to MBA's, needs to be
> required to read Chapter 10 of Charles Dickens' "Little Dorrit" at least
> once a year,
>
> http://www.readprint.com/chapter-2800/Little-Dorrit-Charles-Dickens
>
> Those working for the government, including politicians, should be
> required to memorize it word for word, and it should be posted on all
> public buildings ... :)
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)

A quote from a US Navy leadership class:

I know you think you understand
what you thought you heard me say,
BUT, I am not sure you realize that
what I said was not what I meant.

Have never read "Little Dorrit", but remember a Ford mechanic in early
'50's(when they had such "better" ideas as the master cylinder under
the floorboard, requiring special tools to get to it) saying that ALL
design engineers should be required to work as mechanics for at least
1 year before being allowed near a drafting table.

Norm

On Jan 18, 7:54=A0pm, allen476 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > "Doing it right is no excuse for not meeting the schedule ."
>
> > (Plant Manager, Delco Corporation)
>
> Gee no one at GM can figure out how come the company is in the
> shitter.......
>
> My favorite from work is "I know that bid is due at 12 ( and it was
> 11:55) , but could you really get some coffee made because I need a
> cup" (the idiot manager that could find a handle on hand saw and was
> later fired for incompetence)
>
> Allen

couldn't find the handle on a hand saw

I shouldn't eat supper while trying to think

Allen

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:57:01 -0800, the infamous "LDosser"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:51:08 -0600, the infamous Swingman
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>On 1/20/2010 9:07 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do you think pols are bright enough for that?
>>>
>>>We would do well to test them beforehand ...
>>
>> Instead, they test us. They make promises and too many suckers fall
>> for them.
>>
>> (How's that Hope & Change working for ya, Libtards?)
>
>It does not help that Journalism as we knew it is Dead.

Long Languish Tee Vee!

--
The greatest fine art of the future will be the making
of a comfortable living from a small piece of land.
--Abraham Lincoln

On Jan 18, 3:04=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> A magazine recently ran a "Dilbert Quotes" contest. They were looking
> for people to submit quotes from their real-life Dilbert-type
> managers. These were voted the top ten quotes in corporate America :
> [ these are just as applicable in government -- maybe more so...]
>
> "As of tomorrow, employees will only be able to access the building
> using individual security cards. Pictures will be taken next
> Wednesday, and employees will receive their cards in two weeks."
>
> (This was the winning quote from Fred Dales, Microsoft Corp. in
> Redmond WA )
>
> "What I need is an exact list of specific unknown problems we might
> encounter."
>
> (Lykes Lines Shipping)
>
> "E-mail is not to be used to pass on information or data. It should be
> used only for company business." (Accounting manager, Electric Boat
> Company)
>
> "This project is so important we can't let things that are more
> important interfere with it."(Advertising/Marketing manager, United
> Parcel Service)
>
> "Doing it right is no excuse for not meeting the schedule ."
>
> (Plant Manager, Delco Corporation)
>
> "No one will believe you solved this problem in one day! We've been
> working on it for months. Now go act busy for a few weeks and I'll let
> you know when it's time to tell them."
>
> (R&D supervisor, Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing/3M Corp.)
>
> Quote from the Boss: "Teamwork is a lot of people doing what I say."
>
> (Marketing executive, Citrix Corporation)
>
> My sister passed away and her funeral was scheduled for Monday.
> When I told my Boss, he said she died on purpose so that I would have
> to miss work on the busiest day of the year. He then asked if we could
> change her burial to Friday. He said, "That would be better for me."
>
> (Shipping executive, FTD Florists)
>
> "We know that communication is a problem, but the company is not
> going
> to discuss it with the employees."
>
> (Switching supervisor, AT&T Long Lines Division)

The best Dilbert I saw was one we used to aggravate our finance
department in my previous life.

It was a picture of a guy with a pile of books under his arm. He was
leaning hard against a door that had a "Pull" sign. Next to the door
was another sign that said "School for the Gifted". We scratched
that out and put in "Finance Department".

That pissed our finance folks off enough that the company had to bring
in a team builder to patch things up. (At the time it was the last of
several taunts.).

Ended up doing after hours team an counseling but well worth it!

RonB

Nahmie wrote:

> A quote from a US Navy leadership class:
>
> I know you think you understand
> what you thought you heard me say,
> BUT, I am not sure you realize that
> what I said was not what I meant.

Don't know when the Navy adopted this
but
Wife #1, circa 1969 had this on a
refridgerator magnate - stuck on the refridgerator.
HER mother had her copy on her refridgerator
and
HER mother - the source - had hers on her
refridgerator.

If you want to know who you're marrying,
find out about her mother - and her mother.
If THEY both have traits that irritate the
hell out of you
it's a really good bet that the one you're
about to marry will have the same traits
-refined to an amazing level.

On the other hand, if you are proned to
pealing onions, one layer at a time, trying
to get to the SEED inside - THERE AIN'T
NONE - just layers and layers and layers
to peal.

On Jan 20, 11:18=A0am, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/20/2010 9:21 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:45:35 -0600, the infamous Swingman
> > <[email protected]> =A0scrawled the following:
>
> >> On 1/19/2010 9:07 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> >>> Hooray for the Dilbert Contest! =A0These were all great.
>
> >> Everyone, repeat, EVERYONE, from kindergarten to MBA's, needs to be
> >> required to read Chapter 10 of Charles Dickens' "Little Dorrit" at lea=
st
> >> once a year,
>
> >>http://www.readprint.com/chapter-2800/Little-Dorrit-Charles-Dickens
>
> >> Those working for the government, including politicians, should be
> >> required to memorize it word for word, and it should be posted on all
> >> public buildings ... :)
>
> > Do you expect mere politicians to understand irony, satire, and/or
> > sensibility? =A0Shirley ewe jest!
>
> > (Got 1/4 of the way through it when duty called.)
>
> First couple of pages says it all ... but what a wordsmith, eh?
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)

Wasn't Dickens the guy who taught marketing to pimps? "The Sale Of Two
Titties?"

In article <[email protected]>,
Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/18/2010 3:04 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> > A magazine recently ran a "Dilbert Quotes" contest. They were looking
> > for people to submit quotes from their real-life Dilbert-type
> > managers. These were voted the top ten quotes in corporate America :
> > [ these are just as applicable in government -- maybe more so...]

> My favorite is a one-line telex I heard my 2nd-level manager at IBM's
> East Fishkill Lab dictate and order sent to his counterpart at the
> Uithoorn Lab:

> "Fuck you. Nasty memo follows."

> I'm not sure it improved any on the cooperation he didn't feel he was
> getting from the Dutch...

At one time one of the rooms I worked in had this cryptic notice on the
door - "Mushroom shed"

This was because management seemed to think that if they kept everyone in
the dark about what was going on we would work (grow) better.

Actually I think it was because they hadn't a clue what they were doing
either!

up doing after hours team an counseling but well worth it!
>
> RonB
>
> That wasn't Dilbert, it was Far Side (and one of my favorites as well)

OOPs - Absolutely right. My mistake.

Still enjoyed the aftermath.

On Jan 18, 3:36=A0pm, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/18/2010 3:04 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > A magazine recently ran a "Dilbert Quotes" contest. They were looking
> > for people to submit quotes from their real-life Dilbert-type
> > managers. These were voted the top ten quotes in corporate America :
> > [ these are just as applicable in government -- maybe more so...]
>
> My favorite is a one-line telex I heard my 2nd-level manager at IBM's
> East Fishkill Lab dictate and order sent to his counterpart at the
> Uithoorn Lab:
>
> "Fuck you. Nasty memo follows."
>
> I'm not sure it improved any on the cooperation he didn't feel he was
> getting from the Dutch...
>

Sounds like something Marv (A.K.A. "Adolf") Pitler would do.

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:51:08 -0600, the infamous Swingman
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On 1/20/2010 9:07 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> Do you think pols are bright enough for that?
>
>We would do well to test them beforehand ...

Instead, they test us. They make promises and too many suckers fall
for them.

(How's that Hope & Change working for ya, Libtards?)


--
The greatest fine art of the future will be the making
of a comfortable living from a small piece of land.
--Abraham Lincoln

>
> "Doing it right is no excuse for not meeting the schedule ."
>
> (Plant Manager, Delco Corporation)
>

Gee no one at GM can figure out how come the company is in the
shitter.......

My favorite from work is "I know that bid is due at 12 ( and it was
11:55) , but could you really get some coffee made because I need a
cup" (the idiot manager that could find a handle on hand saw and was
later fired for incompetence)

Allen

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:17:51 -0800 (PST), the infamous Nahmie
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On Jan 19, 9:45 am, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 1/19/2010 9:07 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>> > Hooray for the Dilbert Contest!  These were all great.
>>
>> Everyone, repeat, EVERYONE, from kindergarten to MBA's, needs to be
>> required to read Chapter 10 of Charles Dickens' "Little Dorrit" at least
>> once a year,
>>
>> http://www.readprint.com/chapter-2800/Little-Dorrit-Charles-Dickens
>>
>> Those working for the government, including politicians, should be
>> required to memorize it word for word, and it should be posted on all
>> public buildings ... :)
>>
>> --www.e-woodshop.net
>> Last update: 10/22/08
>> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
>A quote from a US Navy leadership class:
>
>I know you think you understand
>what you thought you heard me say,
>BUT, I am not sure you realize that
>what I said was not what I meant.
>
>Have never read "Little Dorrit", but remember a Ford mechanic in early
>'50's(when they had such "better" ideas as the master cylinder under
>the floorboard, requiring special tools to get to it) saying that ALL
>design engineers should be required to work as mechanics for at least
>1 year before being allowed near a drafting table.

Having been a wrench 15 years, all I can say is "Amen to that",
Nahmie.

--
The greatest fine art of the future will be the making
of a comfortable living from a small piece of land.
--Abraham Lincoln

On 1/18/2010 4:01 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
>> A magazine recently ran a "Dilbert Quotes" contest.
> <snip>
>
> Takes something like this to remind me why I became self employed.

I shudder thinking about it ... except for 6 years in the Army, 1964 was
the last time I was an "employee" ... no way in hell I would have made
it otherwise.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

In article <[email protected]>,
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:57:01 -0800, the infamous "LDosser"
><[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:51:08 -0600, the infamous Swingman
>>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>
>>>>On 1/20/2010 9:07 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Do you think pols are bright enough for that?
>>>>
>>>>We would do well to test them beforehand ...
>>>
>>> Instead, they test us. They make promises and too many suckers fall
>>> for them.
>>>
>>> (How's that Hope & Change working for ya, Libtards?)
>>
>>It does not help that Journalism as we knew it is Dead.
>
>Long Languish Tee Vee!

Lemma:
Television is a medium.
Proof:
It is not rare.
It is not well done.

Q.E.D.

The best Dilbert I saw was one we used to aggravate our finance
department in my previous life.

It was a picture of a guy with a pile of books under his arm. He was
leaning hard against a door that had a "Pull" sign. Next to the door
was another sign that said "School for the Gifted". We scratched
that out and put in "Finance Department".

That pissed our finance folks off enough that the company had to bring
in a team builder to patch things up. (At the time it was the last of
several taunts.).

Ended up doing after hours team an counseling but well worth it!

RonB

That wasn't Dilbert, it was Far Side (and one of my favorites as well)

Nahmie wrote:
> On Jan 19, 9:45 am, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 1/19/2010 9:07 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> Hooray for the Dilbert Contest! These were all great.
>>
>> Everyone, repeat, EVERYONE, from kindergarten to MBA's, needs to be
>> required to read Chapter 10 of Charles Dickens' "Little Dorrit" at
>> least once a year,
>>
>> http://www.readprint.com/chapter-2800/Little-Dorrit-Charles-Dickens
>>
>> Those working for the government, including politicians, should be
>> required to memorize it word for word, and it should be posted on all
>> public buildings ... :)
>>
>> --www.e-woodshop.net
>> Last update: 10/22/08
>> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
> A quote from a US Navy leadership class:
>
> I know you think you understand
> what you thought you heard me say,
> BUT, I am not sure you realize that
> what I said was not what I meant.
>
> Have never read "Little Dorrit", but remember a Ford mechanic in early
> '50's(when they had such "better" ideas as the master cylinder under
> the floorboard, requiring special tools to get to it) saying that ALL
> design engineers should be required to work as mechanics for at least
> 1 year before being allowed near a drafting table.
>

When Peter Townsend took over as president of Avis, he required that
EVERYONE in the company (accountants, mechanics, advertising designers,
whatever) spend one day a year at the counter renting cars.

On 1/18/2010 5:39 PM, Paul Franklin wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:26:33 -0600, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 1/18/2010 4:01 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>> A magazine recently ran a "Dilbert Quotes" contest.
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Takes something like this to remind me why I became self employed.
>>
>> I shudder thinking about it ... except for 6 years in the Army, 1964 was
>> the last time I was an "employee" ... no way in hell I would have made
>> it otherwise.
>
> Every time someone goes off on how bad government is at managing
> things and how much better private industry is at running things I
> think back over my 30+ years in high tech and have a good laugh.
>
> Well managed organizations are as rare in the business sector as they
> are in government. There seems to be an unlimited supply of
> incompetance around.
>
> Dilbert is funny because it is so universal; we all see it around us
> all the time.

http://news.yahoo.com/comics/dilbert

On topic ... check it now, because it will probably change tonight.


--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Jan 19, 5:36=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Nahmie" wrote:
>
> Have never read "Little Dorrit", but remember a Ford mechanic in early
> '50's(when they had such "better" ideas as the master cylinder under
> the floorboard, requiring special tools to get to it) saying that ALL
> design engineers should be required to work as mechanics for at least
> 1 year before being allowed near a drafting table.
> -------------------------------------
>
> I was a product of that thought, went to a co-op (work and study
> periods) school which provided a chance to be exposed to several
> industries while still in school.
>
> Lew

Hear, hear!

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:26:33 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 1/18/2010 4:01 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>> A magazine recently ran a "Dilbert Quotes" contest.
>> <snip>
>>
>> Takes something like this to remind me why I became self employed.
>
>I shudder thinking about it ... except for 6 years in the Army, 1964 was
>the last time I was an "employee" ... no way in hell I would have made
>it otherwise.

Every time someone goes off on how bad government is at managing
things and how much better private industry is at running things I
think back over my 30+ years in high tech and have a good laugh.

Well managed organizations are as rare in the business sector as they
are in government. There seems to be an unlimited supply of
incompetance around.

Dilbert is funny because it is so universal; we all see it around us
all the time.

Paul F.

In article <[email protected]>,
LDosser <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>I worked for the Yin to their Yang: Xerox. In 1981 I started working there
>using computer software and hardware that only came on the commercial market
>in the late 1990s made by other companies.

PARC??

On 1/18/2010 3:04 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> A magazine recently ran a "Dilbert Quotes" contest. They were looking
> for people to submit quotes from their real-life Dilbert-type
> managers. These were voted the top ten quotes in corporate America :
> [ these are just as applicable in government -- maybe more so...]

My favorite is a one-line telex I heard my 2nd-level manager at IBM's
East Fishkill Lab dictate and order sent to his counterpart at the
Uithoorn Lab:

"Fuck you. Nasty memo follows."

I'm not sure it improved any on the cooperation he didn't feel he was
getting from the Dutch...

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>A magazine recently ran a "Dilbert Quotes" contest. They were looking
>>for people to submit quotes from their real-life Dilbert-type
>>managers. These were voted the top ten quotes in corporate America :
>>[ these are just as applicable in government -- maybe more so...]
>
>
>>"We know that communication is a problem, but the company is not
>>going to discuss it with the employees."
>>
>>(Switching supervisor, AT&T Long Lines Division)
>
> I actually worked for this organization for a while (among the many
> places in AT&T that used my skills over 30+ years). Communications
> was something they sold; it was not be used in-house.
Snip
>
I worked for the Yin to their Yang: Xerox. In 1981 I started working there
using computer software and hardware that only came on the commercial market
in the late 1990s made by other companies. At the time, I asked why I'd
never seen any of these wondrous toys on the market and was told "Oh, we
only built this stuff for Internal Use." Was the kind of place that could
leave you whimpering ...

"Robert Bonomi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> LDosser <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>I worked for the Yin to their Yang: Xerox. In 1981 I started working there
>>using computer software and hardware that only came on the commercial
>>market
>>in the late 1990s made by other companies.
>
> PARC??
>

Pasadena, but there was a very close relationship with PARC - IIRC, Steve
Jobs called PARC a National Treasure. In Pasadena we called them the 90%
solution.

"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 1/19/2010 9:07 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> Hooray for the Dilbert Contest! These were all great.
>
> Everyone, repeat, EVERYONE, from kindergarten to MBA's, needs to be
> required to read Chapter 10 of Charles Dickens' "Little Dorrit" at least
> once a year,


The kindergarteners can then Explain it to the MBA's.

"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:51:08 -0600, the infamous Swingman
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>On 1/20/2010 9:07 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> Do you think pols are bright enough for that?
>>
>>We would do well to test them beforehand ...
>
> Instead, they test us. They make promises and too many suckers fall
> for them.
>
> (How's that Hope & Change working for ya, Libtards?)

It does not help that Journalism as we knew it is Dead.

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>A magazine recently ran a "Dilbert Quotes" contest. They were looking
>for people to submit quotes from their real-life Dilbert-type
>managers. These were voted the top ten quotes in corporate America :
>[ these are just as applicable in government -- maybe more so...]


>"We know that communication is a problem, but the company is not
>going to discuss it with the employees."
>
>(Switching supervisor, AT&T Long Lines Division)

I actually worked for this organization for a while (among the many
places in AT&T that used my skills over 30+ years). Communications
was something they sold; it was not be used in-house. Promotion to
certain levles of managemet seemed to be dependent on whether/how much
of a lobotomy had been performed.

One manager asked if I was interested in moving higher in the company
and I told him I was quite happy being a techie "supervisor" with the
only reportee being me ;-)

John

On 1/19/2010 9:07 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:

> Hooray for the Dilbert Contest! These were all great.

Everyone, repeat, EVERYONE, from kindergarten to MBA's, needs to be
required to read Chapter 10 of Charles Dickens' "Little Dorrit" at least
once a year,

http://www.readprint.com/chapter-2800/Little-Dorrit-Charles-Dickens

Those working for the government, including politicians, should be
required to memorize it word for word, and it should be posted on all
public buildings ... :)

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

Robatoy wrote:

> A magazine recently ran a "Dilbert Quotes" contest. They were looking
> for people to submit quotes from their real-life Dilbert-type
> managers. These were voted the top ten quotes in corporate America :
> [ these are just as applicable in government -- maybe more so...]
>
>
... snip

I've got one from one of the troops:

"Bear in mind that the tasks on the schedule may not necessarily be the
tasks being worked on by the development team. You (management) were
provided the information you have because you insisted on being given a
schedule."

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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:04:24 -0800 (PST), the infamous Robatoy
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>A magazine recently ran a "Dilbert Quotes" contest. They were looking
>for people to submit quotes from their real-life Dilbert-type
>managers. These were voted the top ten quotes in corporate America :
>[ these are just as applicable in government -- maybe more so...]
>
>
>"As of tomorrow, employees will only be able to access the building
>using individual security cards. Pictures will be taken next
>Wednesday, and employees will receive their cards in two weeks."
>
>(This was the winning quote from Fred Dales, Microsoft Corp. in
>Redmond WA )
>
>"What I need is an exact list of specific unknown problems we might
>encounter."
>
>(Lykes Lines Shipping)
>
>"E-mail is not to be used to pass on information or data. It should be
>used only for company business." (Accounting manager, Electric Boat
>Company)
>
>
>"This project is so important we can't let things that are more
>important interfere with it."(Advertising/Marketing manager, United
>Parcel Service)
>
>
>"Doing it right is no excuse for not meeting the schedule ."
>
>(Plant Manager, Delco Corporation)
>
>"No one will believe you solved this problem in one day! We've been
>working on it for months. Now go act busy for a few weeks and I'll let
>you know when it's time to tell them."
>
>(R&D supervisor, Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing/3M Corp.)

Gee, this one looks familiar. ;)


>Quote from the Boss: "Teamwork is a lot of people doing what I say."
>
>(Marketing executive, Citrix Corporation)
>
>My sister passed away and her funeral was scheduled for Monday.
>When I told my Boss, he said she died on purpose so that I would have
>to miss work on the busiest day of the year. He then asked if we could
>change her burial to Friday. He said, "That would be better for me."
>
>(Shipping executive, FTD Florists)
>
>"We know that communication is a problem, but the company is not
>going
>to discuss it with the employees."
>
>(Switching supervisor, AT&T Long Lines Division)

Hooray for the Dilbert Contest! These were all great.

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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:18:40 -0600, the infamous Swingman
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On 1/20/2010 9:21 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:45:35 -0600, the infamous Swingman
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>> On 1/19/2010 9:07 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hooray for the Dilbert Contest! These were all great.
>>>
>>> Everyone, repeat, EVERYONE, from kindergarten to MBA's, needs to be
>>> required to read Chapter 10 of Charles Dickens' "Little Dorrit" at least
>>> once a year,
>>>
>>> http://www.readprint.com/chapter-2800/Little-Dorrit-Charles-Dickens
>>>
>>> Those working for the government, including politicians, should be
>>> required to memorize it word for word, and it should be posted on all
>>> public buildings ... :)
>>
>> Do you expect mere politicians to understand irony, satire, and/or
>> sensibility? Shirley ewe jest!
>>
>> (Got 1/4 of the way through it when duty called.)
>
>First couple of pages says it all ... but what a wordsmith, eh?

Indeed, but tough to read. You have to stop and sort out all of his
implications, reading it on several different levels at once.

Do you think pols are bright enough for that?

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On 1/20/2010 9:07 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

> Do you think pols are bright enough for that?

We would do well to test them beforehand ...

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On 1/20/2010 9:21 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:45:35 -0600, the infamous Swingman
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>> On 1/19/2010 9:07 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> Hooray for the Dilbert Contest! These were all great.
>>
>> Everyone, repeat, EVERYONE, from kindergarten to MBA's, needs to be
>> required to read Chapter 10 of Charles Dickens' "Little Dorrit" at least
>> once a year,
>>
>> http://www.readprint.com/chapter-2800/Little-Dorrit-Charles-Dickens
>>
>> Those working for the government, including politicians, should be
>> required to memorize it word for word, and it should be posted on all
>> public buildings ... :)
>
> Do you expect mere politicians to understand irony, satire, and/or
> sensibility? Shirley ewe jest!
>
> (Got 1/4 of the way through it when duty called.)

First couple of pages says it all ... but what a wordsmith, eh?

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Paul Franklin wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:26:33 -0600, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On 1/18/2010 4:01 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>> A magazine recently ran a "Dilbert Quotes" contest.
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Takes something like this to remind me why I became self employed.
>>
>>I shudder thinking about it ... except for 6 years in the Army, 1964 was
>>the last time I was an "employee" ... no way in hell I would have made
>>it otherwise.
>
> Every time someone goes off on how bad government is at managing
> things and how much better private industry is at running things I
> think back over my 30+ years in high tech and have a good laugh.
>
> Well managed organizations are as rare in the business sector as they
> are in government. There seems to be an unlimited supply of
> incompetance around.

Except that unless you are an employee of that particular company in the
business sector, they can't tell *you* how to live your life, how much money
you have to give them (by force of law), or enforce other onerous
regulations upon you. In most cases, with most (NOTE -- THAT SAID MOST, NOT
ALL, there are some limited exceptions such as power generation and even
that has alternatives, just not great ones) private companies, you have a
choice and if they get too obnoxious, you can take your business elsewhere.
If it's the government doing it, you are pretty much stuck.

>
> Dilbert is funny because it is so universal; we all see it around us
> all the time.
>
> Paul F.

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