RH

Rob H.

24/10/2013 1:19 AM

What is it? Set 516

This week's set has been posted:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


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Sonny

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 4:25 AM

On Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:19:30 AM UTC-5, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted: http://55tools.blogspot.com/ Rob

3012 looks like pinch dogs, for clamping boards together, as Roy Underhill once demonstrated.

Sonny

SM

Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 4:10 PM

On 10/24/2013 3:10 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>
>
>> 3010 obviously a driver for an object that might have both a slotted
>> cover and one with an offset hole (for security?) I've seen similar
>> drivers for special equipment, but this one doesn't ring any bells.
>
>
> You have the right idea here
>
>

The round hole offset, I remember seeing some thing
like this on a GM family vehicle hub cap. Pontiac or
Buick, maybe?

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Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 8:07 AM

On 24 Oct 2013 01:19:30 -0700, Rob H. wrote:

> This week's set has been posted:

For once I have some reasonable guesses, that will probably turn out to
be completely wrong.

3007. Stick a piece of bread in and char it to various shades of black
for your morning "toast".

3008. My first thought was a jack, but somehow I doubt it.

3009. This looks like it would be good for hanging a candle someplace
tha doesn't have brackets or sconces, except that there's no bottom and
no apparent door.

3012. Phrenology devices. (OK, that's a joke. Watch this one turn out
to be right.)

--
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Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com

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Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 7:44 AM

On 10/24/2013 4:19 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
3007 early version of the game "connect four"
Or, traveling salesman's version of a cheese grater.
3008, no clue.
3009, part of a candle lantern. Or maybe bird
cage for anorexic birds.
3010, a faucet key of sorts, for a restricted
access port. I saw something like this a couple
years ago, and the memory is escaping me.
3011, need a better picture.
3012, no clue




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"WW"

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

25/10/2013 7:29 PM



"Rob H." wrote in message news:[email protected]...

>I was playing the fool. In the days of tubes, one would buy a
>breadboard to screw down components for an experimental circuit.
>Nowadays they use printed-circuit boards with hundreds of holes.
>They're often called perforated breadboards.
>http://tangentsoft.net/elec/breadboard.html


I thought your breadboard answer was very close since the old breadboards
were
used as a cutting board for bread, this device is the same thing except for
a
single slice. So I asked for clarification since I didn't think that
breadboard
was specific enough to call correct.

Still not sure about the handle in number 3011 but the rest of the answers
for
this week have been posted:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/10/set-516.html#answers


Rob

Looks like would be good for punching a hole in a oil can. (when oil came in
quart cans) WW

GR

"G. Ross"

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

25/10/2013 5:58 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
3011 Resembles the pin in our old John Deere one-horse wagon. The
round part dropped into a hole to connect the rear wheel assembly to
the center of the front axle. On the side portion was a wrench for
the wheel bolts. Two differences: It was a true right angle, and the
sides of the wrench were longer.

--
 GW Ross 

 If it weren't for electricity, we'd 
 all be watching television by 
 candlelight. --George Gobel 





LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 5:46 AM

Rob H. <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:l4al6i02260
@drn.newsguy.com:

> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

3008 is the handle of a manual(ly) hammer(ed) drill (star drill) for
concrete or stone. The handle fits a taper on the butt end of the drill,
and the taper extractor is to get it back off again. A small sledge is
used to hammer it, and the flanges on the handle are to protect the
holding hand in case of a miss.

3009 looks to me like an old drop-light cage. ('drop candle cage'?) <G>

3010 obviously a driver for an object that might have both a slotted
cover and one with an offset hole (for security?) I've seen similar
drivers for special equipment, but this one doesn't ring any bells.

3011 no clue. I can see how it works, and it's only good "on the lift",
but I can't recall seeing any farm or lumbering equipment with such a
quick-release handle on it.

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 8:28 PM

"DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> 2) That the inner end of the holes is well smoothed.

C'mon, Don! The picture CLEARLY SHOWS the punched rim of each hole as
being "toothed" (almost SPIKED), all the better to hold the slice of bread.

Lloyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

25/10/2013 2:55 PM

"Phil Kangas" <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> http://archive.pennysaverusa.com/category/merchandise-antiques-collecti
> bles-antique_dealers/region/w-us-tx-titus-mount-pleasant-75455/duncanno
> n-slice-a-slice-tea-sandwich-bread-slicer-vintage-29516920.html

Bingo!
Lloyd

Nn

"Nick"

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 2:54 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
A few wild guesses, as usual:

3007. Used for making fresh pasta.
3008. Morse taper chisel handle. Wedge used to eject bit from handle.
3009. Cage for inspection lamp. Missing the working parts.
3010. A dunno.
3011. A handle (possibly one of a pair) for handling the ash can of a solid
fuel fire/furnace/woodburner.
3012. Timber dogs, that's what we call 'em. Never seen the 'T' shaped one.

Nick.

h

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 10:24 PM


>>This week's set has been posted:
>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>Rob
>


3007 : bread slicer

http://archive.pennysaverusa.com/category/merchandise-antiques-collectibles-antique_dealers/region/w-us-tx-titus-mount-pleasant-75455/duncannon-slice-a-slice-tea-sandwich-bread-slicer-vintage-29516920.html

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LdB

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 1:13 PM

On 10/24/2013 3:19 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>

3008. The original Hammer Drill. As an apprentice I spent many
"enjoyable" hours drilling holes in concrete with one of those. I
especially liked drilling up into ceilings while standing on top of a
rickety old wooden ladder.

You have no idea how much a person can appreciates an electric hammer
drill until you have made a few hundred holes with one of those drills.

A tapered bit fits into the drill handle. The key is used to change bits.

By the way, that was an excellent method for teaching someone how to
use a hammer. :)

LdB

Ss

"Snag"

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 7:53 AM

Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

3012 is a set of pinch dogs used in woodworking . Used to hold boards
together while gluing or for shaping operations .
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willshak

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 2:28 PM

Ted Schuerzinger wrote:
> On 24 Oct 2013 01:19:30 -0700, Rob H. wrote:
>
>> This week's set has been posted:
>
> For once I have some reasonable guesses, that will probably turn out to
> be completely wrong.
>
> 3007. Stick a piece of bread in and char it to various shades of black
> for your morning "toast".

That was my guess. I remember something like this many years ago.
Put the bread in and hold it over the coal stove.

>
> 3008. My first thought was a jack, but somehow I doubt it.
>
> 3009. This looks like it would be good for hanging a candle someplace
> tha doesn't have brackets or sconces, except that there's no bottom and
> no apparent door.
>
> 3012. Phrenology devices. (OK, that's a joke. Watch this one turn out
> to be right.)
>


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Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 12:10 PM

>3008 is the handle of a manual(ly) hammer(ed) drill (star drill) for
>concrete or stone. The handle fits a taper on the butt end of the drill,
>and the taper extractor is to get it back off again. A small sledge is
>used to hammer it, and the flanges on the handle are to protect the
>holding hand in case of a miss.
>
>3009 looks to me like an old drop-light cage. ('drop candle cage'?) <G>


These first two are correct


>3010 obviously a driver for an object that might have both a slotted
>cover and one with an offset hole (for security?) I've seen similar
>drivers for special equipment, but this one doesn't ring any bells.


You have the right idea here


>3011 no clue. I can see how it works, and it's only good "on the lift",
>but I can't recall seeing any farm or lumbering equipment with such a
>quick-release handle on it.


I don't have an answer for this one but for some reason thought it might be for
use on milk cans.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 12:13 PM


>3007. Stick a piece of bread in and char it to various shades of black
>for your morning "toast".


Partial credit for this one, it _is_ for use with a piece of bread, but not for
toasting.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 12:20 PM


> 3012 is a set of pinch dogs used in woodworking . Used to hold boards
>together while gluing or for shaping operations .


Yes, I think pinch dogs is a more common name for these.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 12:34 PM

> 3008. The original Hammer Drill. As an apprentice I spent many
>"enjoyable" hours drilling holes in concrete with one of those. I
>especially liked drilling up into ceilings while standing on top of a
>rickety old wooden ladder.
>
>You have no idea how much a person can appreciates an electric hammer
>drill until you have made a few hundred holes with one of those drills.
>
>A tapered bit fits into the drill handle. The key is used to change bits.
>
>By the way, that was an excellent method for teaching someone how to
>use a hammer. :)
>
>LdB


The one on my site was used by the phone company.

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 4:42 PM

On 10/24/13 3:13 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> 3007. Stick a piece of bread in and char it to various shades of black
>> for your morning "toast".
>
>
> Partial credit for this one, it _is_ for use with a piece of bread, but not for
> toasting.
>
Ah, a perforated breadboard!

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 2:01 PM

>>> 3010 obviously a driver for an object that might have both a slotted
>>> cover and one with an offset hole (for security?) I've seen similar
>>> drivers for special equipment, but this one doesn't ring any bells.
>>
>>
>> You have the right idea here
>>
>>
>
>The round hole offset, I remember seeing some thing
>like this on a GM family vehicle hub cap. Pontiac or
>Buick, maybe?


This tool was not for use on cars.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 2:01 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Stormin Mormon says...
>
>On 10/24/2013 3:13 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> 3007. Stick a piece of bread in and char it to various shades of black
>>> for your morning "toast".
>>
>>
>>Partial credit for this one, it _is_ for use with a piece of bread, but not for
>> toasting.
>>
>
>Bird feeder?


Nope, not a feeder of any kind

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 2:07 PM

In article <[email protected]>, J Burns says...
>
>On 10/24/13 3:13 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> 3007. Stick a piece of bread in and char it to various shades of black
>>> for your morning "toast".
>>
>>
>>Partial credit for this one, it _is_ for use with a piece of bread, but not for
>> toasting.
>>
>Ah, a perforated breadboard!


I don't think that I would call this device a breadboard, which is normally just
a
piece of wood, if you could describe how you think it's used then I could say
whether it's correct or not.

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 6:55 PM

On 10/24/13 5:07 PM, Rob H. wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, J Burns says...
>>
>> On 10/24/13 3:13 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>> 3007. Stick a piece of bread in and char it to various shades of black
>>>> for your morning "toast".
>>>
>>>
>>> Partial credit for this one, it _is_ for use with a piece of bread, but not for
>>> toasting.
>>>
>> Ah, a perforated breadboard!
>
>
> I don't think that I would call this device a breadboard, which is normally just
> a
> piece of wood, if you could describe how you think it's used then I could say
> whether it's correct or not.
>
;)
I was playing the fool. In the days of tubes, one would buy a
breadboard to screw down components for an experimental circuit.
Nowadays they use printed-circuit boards with hundreds of holes.
They're often called perforated breadboards.
http://tangentsoft.net/elec/breadboard.html

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 4:31 PM

>I was playing the fool. In the days of tubes, one would buy a
>breadboard to screw down components for an experimental circuit.
>Nowadays they use printed-circuit boards with hundreds of holes.
>They're often called perforated breadboards.
>http://tangentsoft.net/elec/breadboard.html


Thanks for the clarification, makes more sense now, I'll explain my
misunderstanding it tomorrow when I post the answers.

DB

"David B"

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

25/10/2013 2:28 PM

3007. Reading all the other posts could it be for stale bread?
Put your slice of bread in and pop it in the oven?

D

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

25/10/2013 9:27 AM

In article <[email protected]>, David B says...
>
>3007. Reading all the other posts could it be for stale bread?
>Put your slice of bread in and pop it in the oven?
>
>D


That's not it

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

25/10/2013 1:41 PM

On 10/24/13 3:13 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> 3007. Stick a piece of bread in and char it to various shades of black
>> for your morning "toast".
>
>
> Partial credit for this one, it _is_ for use with a piece of bread, but not for
> toasting.
>
How about mouse bait? Put in a freshly baked slice of bread. Put it in
a tub where mice can hop in but can't jump or climb out. As they work
to get what little bread they can, the noise and odor will attract all
the mice in the building.

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

25/10/2013 2:49 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, David B says...
>> 3007. Reading all the other posts could it be for stale bread?
>> Put your slice of bread in and pop it in the oven?
>>
>> D
>
>
> That's not it
>

It's a slice slicer. You put a slice of bread in it and use a knife to
cut it in half.

--
Steve W.

PK

"Phil Kangas"

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

25/10/2013 3:19 PM


"Steve W." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Rob H. wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, David
>> B says...
>>> 3007. Reading all the other posts could it be
>>> for stale bread?
>>> Put your slice of bread in and pop it in the
>>> oven?
>>>
>>> D
>>
>>
>> That's not it
>>
>
> It's a slice slicer. You put a slice of bread in
> it and use a knife to cut it in half.
>
> --
> Steve W.

This answer was posted on rec.woodworking:


3007 : bread slicer

http://archive.pennysaverusa.com/category/merchandise-antiques-collectibles-antique_dealers/region/w-us-tx-titus-mount-pleasant-75455/duncannon-slice-a-slice-tea-sandwich-bread-slicer-vintage-29516920.html

John T.



RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

25/10/2013 12:21 PM


>It's a slice slicer. You put a slice of bread in it and use a knife to
>cut it in half.


Correct! You get two quarter inch slices from a half inch one.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

25/10/2013 1:58 PM

>I was playing the fool. In the days of tubes, one would buy a
>breadboard to screw down components for an experimental circuit.
>Nowadays they use printed-circuit boards with hundreds of holes.
>They're often called perforated breadboards.
>http://tangentsoft.net/elec/breadboard.html


I thought your breadboard answer was very close since the old breadboards were
used as a cutting board for bread, this device is the same thing except for a
single slice. So I asked for clarification since I didn't think that breadboard
was specific enough to call correct.

Still not sure about the handle in number 3011 but the rest of the answers for
this week have been posted:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/10/set-516.html#answers


Rob

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

25/10/2013 5:24 PM

>3011 Resembles the pin in our old John Deere one-horse wagon. The
>round part dropped into a hole to connect the rear wheel assembly to
>the center of the front axle. On the side portion was a wrench for
>the wheel bolts. Two differences: It was a true right angle, and the
>sides of the wrench were longer.


Thanks for the info. I just looked again at the email and saw that the owner
said
there was some text on it that said "99934-2" and "Circle D" but I didn't find
anything when I did a quick search on it.

JB

J Burns

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

25/10/2013 11:38 PM

On 10/25/13 9:29 PM, WW wrote:
>
>
> "Rob H." wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>> I was playing the fool. In the days of tubes, one would buy a
>> breadboard to screw down components for an experimental circuit.
>> Nowadays they use printed-circuit boards with hundreds of holes.
>> They're often called perforated breadboards.
>> http://tangentsoft.net/elec/breadboard.html
>
>
> I thought your breadboard answer was very close since the old
> breadboards were
> used as a cutting board for bread, this device is the same thing except
> for a
> single slice. So I asked for clarification since I didn't think that
> breadboard
> was specific enough to call correct.
>
> Still not sure about the handle in number 3011 but the rest of the
> answers for
> this week have been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/10/set-516.html#answers
>
>
> Rob
>
> Looks like would be good for punching a hole in a oil can. (when oil
> came in quart cans) WW
The Dayton Malleable Iron Works, which became the Dayton Malleable Iron
Company, had a D in a circle for its trademark. It was known for buggy
wrenches and buggy fittings.

RH

Rob H.

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

30/10/2013 11:12 AM

>Looks like would be good for punching a hole in an oil can. (when oil came in
>quart cans) WW
-----
>The Dayton Malleable Iron Works, which became the Dayton Malleable Iron
>Company, had a D in a circle for its trademark. It was known for buggy
>wrenches and buggy fittings.
-----
>3011 looks like some sort of removable step. The part in the person's left hand
drops into a little slot, and the other part is the where the user >steps up.
-----
>Right along I have been convinced that it is a removeable operating
>handle (removeable for "security--to prevent un-authorized operation).
>I just don't know what. Streetcar motorman's brake?


In response to the four separate posts seen above: Thanks for the suggestions,
I've done some searching and haven't yet found any further information on this
handle, though I did pass these ideas on to the owner of it. I think that we'll
eventually get an answer for this one.

Rob

SM

Stormin Mormon

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 4:11 PM

On 10/24/2013 3:13 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> 3007. Stick a piece of bread in and char it to various shades of black
>> for your morning "toast".
>
>
> Partial credit for this one, it _is_ for use with a piece of bread, but not for
> toasting.
>

Bird feeder?

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Learn about Jesus
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in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

24/10/2013 4:36 AM


>This week's set has been posted:
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>Rob



3007 :
3008 : chisel handle - wedge to remove chisel from handle
3009 :
3010 :
3011 :

1 out-of 5 is better than my usual ... :-)
Thanks again, Rob - much enjoyed weekly exercise.
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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to Rob H. on 24/10/2013 1:19 AM

25/10/2013 1:25 AM

On 2013-10-24, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

3007) I'm going to make some possibly unjustified assumptions about
this one.

1) That it is a stainless steel.

2) That the inner end of the holes is well smoothed.

If so --it could be to hold cut film (4x5") upright and allow
full access by developer through the holes (probably with
something like nitrogen burst aeration) to be used for
developing, stop-bath, fixing, and washing of the film in a
light-tight tank, or in a dark room.

Is that wood at the bottom? If so, I hope that it is wax
covered so it does not absorb and retain the chemicals for one
of the baths to carry over to the next.

3008) A changeable bit hammer impact drill. The tapered part shown as
a crossbar is the "drift key" to remove the tool, which is
fitted in a tapered socket. Usually used with Morse tapers, but
I suspect that this is a different taper because it is so short.

Probably for drilling holes in concrete, and the rubber handle
protects the hand holding it from most of the shock from the
hammer. (And the mushroom upper end protects the hand from the
hammer during misses. :-)

3009) If it had a bottom, I would think that it is intended to hold
a candle as a form of lantern. (And I guess that one could clip
in there.)

Lacking that, a cage for a petrified snake stood on end? :-)

3010) One end is a straight screwdriver blade. The other is to drive
a special head with a single offset hole into which the pin
fits.

The pin -- and the slug of which it is a part, appear to be
spring loaded and slide into the sleeve of the body, to keep the
wrench from simply rotating around the pin.

3011) Not enough detail and angle of view to really tell about this,
sorry. Perhaps if I had seen one as part of the whole machine,
I would recognize it.

3012) The left three are intended to drive into two pieces of wood,
and to draw them together.

The right-hand one appears to be for joining two pieces of wood
at right angles to a third piece, forming a 'T' joint.

Now to post this and then see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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