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[email protected] (Frank Shute)

04/12/2003 9:35 AM

Making a moulding plane

I've got to make some replacement window frames for my house and I'd
like to make them in the style of the originals (1930's). Picture at:

http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/win1.jpg

They've got a moulding on them which is somewhat akin to an extended
Roman ogee. I can get a similar ½" router bit but aswell as the cost
of the bit, I'd have to get a ½" router which rules out that idea.

I thought of doing a number of passes with my ¼" router and a variety
of bits but that would be a pain even if I could figure out what bits
etc. to use.

Since I'm using Scandinavian pine for the frames, my next idea was to
make a moulding plane with the desired profile. Anybody tackled making
a moulding plane to do such a job? Any web resources/books about how
to tackle it or any other hints? I'd be happy to spend some dough on a
book as it would be useful if I came up against any other one-off
profiles in the future.

TIA

--

Frank


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[email protected] (Scott Post)

in reply to [email protected] (Frank Shute) on 04/12/2003 9:35 AM

04/12/2003 10:48 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Frank Shute <[email protected]> wrote:
>I've got to make some replacement window frames for my house and I'd
>like to make them in the style of the originals (1930's). Picture at:
>
>http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/win1.jpg
>
<snip>
>
>Since I'm using Scandinavian pine for the frames, my next idea was to
>make a moulding plane with the desired profile. Anybody tackled making
>a moulding plane to do such a job? Any web resources/books about how
>to tackle it or any other hints? I'd be happy to spend some dough on a
>book as it would be useful if I came up against any other one-off
>profiles in the future.
>

Here's how I do it:

http://home.insightbb.com/~sepost/Thumbnail_Making/start.html

As far as books go, "Making Traditional Wooden Planes" by John Whelan
is the best on making molding planes. There's also a video out by
Tod Herrli on making a side escapement plane (hollows & rounds) that
you can get here:

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2nwp6/planes/hollow.html

Another way to learn is to take a class. Tod Herrli offers classes at
his house in Indiana. Larry Williams of Clark & Williams
(http://www.planemaker.com) occasionally teaches classes too. He taught
one at Arrowmont in Tennessee in '02.

--
Scott Post [email protected] http://home.insightbb.com/~sepost/

LC

"Larry C in Auburn, WA"

in reply to [email protected] (Frank Shute) on 04/12/2003 9:35 AM

04/12/2003 4:42 PM

Scott, you Bast*rd! I had stuff to do this morning so I didn't have time to
spend an hour reading your web site. You owe me!!!

Actually, very nice tutorial on making a plane. It made me want to go make
one. Maybe between Christmas & New Years when I'm off work. Hmm, I might
have to order some supplies this afternoon.
--
Larry C in Auburn, WA

"Scott Post" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:JhEzb.415611$HS4.3335382@attbi_s01...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Frank Shute <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I've got to make some replacement window frames for my house and I'd
> >like to make them in the style of the originals (1930's). Picture at:
> >
> >http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/win1.jpg
> >
> <snip>
> >
> >Since I'm using Scandinavian pine for the frames, my next idea was to
> >make a moulding plane with the desired profile. Anybody tackled making
> >a moulding plane to do such a job? Any web resources/books about how
> >to tackle it or any other hints? I'd be happy to spend some dough on a
> >book as it would be useful if I came up against any other one-off
> >profiles in the future.
> >
>
> Here's how I do it:
>
> http://home.insightbb.com/~sepost/Thumbnail_Making/start.html
>
> As far as books go, "Making Traditional Wooden Planes" by John Whelan
> is the best on making molding planes. There's also a video out by
> Tod Herrli on making a side escapement plane (hollows & rounds) that
> you can get here:
>
> http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2nwp6/planes/hollow.html
>
> Another way to learn is to take a class. Tod Herrli offers classes at
> his house in Indiana. Larry Williams of Clark & Williams
> (http://www.planemaker.com) occasionally teaches classes too. He taught
> one at Arrowmont in Tennessee in '02.
>
> --
> Scott Post [email protected]
http://home.insightbb.com/~sepost/

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[email protected] (Frank Shute)

in reply to [email protected] (Frank Shute) on 04/12/2003 9:35 AM

05/12/2003 2:05 AM

On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:48:09 GMT, Scott Post wrote:
>
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Frank Shute <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I've got to make some replacement window frames for my house and I'd
>>like to make them in the style of the originals (1930's). Picture at:
>>
>>http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/win1.jpg
>>
> <snip>
>>
>>Since I'm using Scandinavian pine for the frames, my next idea was to
>>make a moulding plane with the desired profile. Anybody tackled making
>>a moulding plane to do such a job? Any web resources/books about how
>>to tackle it or any other hints? I'd be happy to spend some dough on a
>>book as it would be useful if I came up against any other one-off
>>profiles in the future.
>>
>
> Here's how I do it:
>
> http://home.insightbb.com/~sepost/Thumbnail_Making/start.html
>
> As far as books go, "Making Traditional Wooden Planes" by John Whelan
> is the best on making molding planes. There's also a video out by
> Tod Herrli on making a side escapement plane (hollows & rounds) that
> you can get here:
>
> http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2nwp6/planes/hollow.html

Thanks Scott. I just checked out Amazon for the book but I fear it
might be out of print. I might get hold of the video though.

I also checked out your site and your write-up is brilliant and it gives
me the confidence to give it a go. I first have to get another job out
of the way, so I probably wont start building it until after Xmas but
I'll put some pictures up once I'm done.

A couple of questions: what timber do you use? I guess any reasonably
durable close-grained hardwood would do the job but perhaps the
plane-makers of yore had a preference. You finished with boiled
linseed, do you think Danish oil is OK?

I've found a supplier of tool steel just a few miles down the road
(http://www.westyorkssteel.com/) and thought I might go for A2 for the
iron. Their site is quite interesting and includes colour charts for
tempering etc.

>
> Another way to learn is to take a class. Tod Herrli offers classes at
> his house in Indiana. Larry Williams of Clark & Williams
> (http://www.planemaker.com) occasionally teaches classes too. He taught
> one at Arrowmont in Tennessee in '02.

Too far to go, unless you fancy sending me a transatlantic plane
ticket (gratis) ;)


--

Frank

sS

[email protected] (Scott Post)

in reply to [email protected] (Frank Shute) on 04/12/2003 9:35 AM

05/12/2003 2:35 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Frank Shute <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>A couple of questions: what timber do you use? I guess any reasonably
>durable close-grained hardwood would do the job but perhaps the
>plane-makers of yore had a preference.

Yes - any close grained hardwood is fine. Beech and birch are both
traditional. Hard maple works fine too. I've seen a few from apple
and cherry. Some of the woods from the rosewood family like cocobolo
are really nice.

> do you think Danish oil is OK?
>

I don't see why not. It's just oil with a bit of varnish.

>>
>> Another way to learn is to take a class. Tod Herrli offers classes at
>> his house in Indiana. Larry Williams of Clark & Williams
>> (http://www.planemaker.com) occasionally teaches classes too. He taught
>> one at Arrowmont in Tennessee in '02.
>
>Too far to go, unless you fancy sending me a transatlantic plane
>ticket (gratis) ;)
>

I missed the ".uk" the first time around.

--
Scott Post [email protected] http://home.insightbb.com/~sepost/


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