HM

"HMFIC@1369"

04/03/2005 11:48 PM

OK Folks, Besides the Cabinets. How about a moveable Island?

Well It'll be a couple more weeks on the cabinets. In the mean time I'm
designing an Island that's moveable I'm stuck with approx 36" by 26". I'm
open to all suggestions, and I only have one concern and that is I currently
have an engineered wood floor that I'm replacing with Ceramic Tile and my
concern is the possible damage from rolling this thing around!

Thanks!


This topic has 17 replies

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Eugene Nine

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

05/03/2005 1:38 AM

HMFIC@1369 wrote:

>
> You're correct! Well as stupid as it may seem, I use an industrial rubber
> floor mat across the kitchen floor in front of the cabinets and sink for
> fatigue. So that saves me some work. I am worried about it though! Thanks!
> "Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:Qs6Wd.90502$QS5.27445@trndny06...
>> > Well It'll be a couple more weeks on the cabinets. In the mean time I'm
>> > designing an Island that's moveable I'm stuck with approx 36" by 26".
> I'm
>> > open to all suggestions, and I only have one concern and that is I
>> > currently
>> > have an engineered wood floor that I'm replacing with Ceramic Tile and
> my
>> > concern is the possible damage from rolling this thing around!
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>>
>> When I put ceramic tile on our kitchen floor my wife was highly
>> pleased.........at first.
>> Easy to maintain, very attractive, etc. But don't drop anything hard
> (like
>> a pan or dish or tableware or....) on it. I had to replace about 8 sq.ft
> in
>> front of the sink already.
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
They have engineered tile floor now, it looks like tile but comes in planks
like the engineered wood, I put that in ours a couple years ago and it
looks great.

bf

"butch"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

04/03/2005 8:18 PM

Consider casters with urethane over metal wheels - less likely than
rubber to mark and they also look good - would get 2" wide and no small
diameter than 3" - yes they make them smaller. Suggest u check out
surplus center . com - good source.

mm

"mp"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

04/03/2005 10:20 PM

> Well It'll be a couple more weeks on the cabinets. In the mean time I'm
> designing an Island that's moveable I'm stuck with approx 36" by 26". I'm
> open to all suggestions, and I only have one concern and that is I
> currently
> have an engineered wood floor that I'm replacing with Ceramic Tile and my
> concern is the possible damage from rolling this thing around!

Get the largest diameter rubber wheeled caster that's practical. If you get
some with light grey rubber you don't need to worry about scuff marks.

mm

"mp"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

05/03/2005 1:57 PM

> Agreed. When I finally get tired of the ugly linoleum in this kitchen,
> I'll be carpeting with i/o carpet and changing "scenes" (color and/or
> texture) every few years if necessary or wanted.
>
> I dislike the cold feel of lino, tile, and hardwood flooring, though
> I like the ease with which hardwood cleans up.

Have you checked out cork?

HM

"HMFIC@1369"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

07/03/2005 2:30 AM

sounds like plan, I do recall something to that affect..... Thanks!
"Clint" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:FbKWd.586396$8l.93373@pd7tw1no...
> There are ways to raise/lower the wheel using a lever, rather than using
> locking castors that you have to reach down to. Check out some mobile
tool
> bases. Basically, the wheels are pushed down using a lever, allowing you
to
> move it around. When you get it where you want it to be, the wheels are
> raised up, and the base will rest on some rests instead of the wheels.
>
> With a little ingenuity, you should be able to rig up a lever that
operates
> at countertop height, or is foot operated through the skirt. Either way
> would beat bending over all the time to unlock the wheels, IMHO.
>
> Clint
>
> "HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:5jaWd.59326$W16.3659@trndny07...
> > The problem with the wood skirt is that I can't lock the wheels. I will
> > certainly look for a wider wheel... Thanks!
> > "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> In article <Qs6Wd.90502$QS5.27445@trndny06>,
> >> "HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Well It'll be a couple more weeks on the cabinets. In the mean time
I'm
> >> > designing an Island that's moveable I'm stuck with approx 36" by 26".
> > I'm
> >> > open to all suggestions, and I only have one concern and that is I
> > currently
> >> > have an engineered wood floor that I'm replacing with Ceramic Tile
and
> > my
> >> > concern is the possible damage from rolling this thing around!
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> 4 Quality casters with a semi-hard, wide tread shouldn't be a problem.
> >> If you are putting granite on that island, go to a bigger wheel. Hard
> >> rubber wheels distribute the load more evenly. You can hide those
> >> unsightly casters by building a wooden skirt around them which can
> >> double as a footrest.
> >>
> >> I guess you're not putting a bar sink in that island, eh?
> >>
> >> 0¿0
> >> ~
> >>
> >> Rob
> >
> >
>
>

HM

"HMFIC@1369"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

05/03/2005 4:10 AM


You're correct! Well as stupid as it may seem, I use an industrial rubber
floor mat across the kitchen floor in front of the cabinets and sink for
fatigue. So that saves me some work. I am worried about it though! Thanks!
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:Qs6Wd.90502$QS5.27445@trndny06...
> > Well It'll be a couple more weeks on the cabinets. In the mean time I'm
> > designing an Island that's moveable I'm stuck with approx 36" by 26".
I'm
> > open to all suggestions, and I only have one concern and that is I
> > currently
> > have an engineered wood floor that I'm replacing with Ceramic Tile and
my
> > concern is the possible damage from rolling this thing around!
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> When I put ceramic tile on our kitchen floor my wife was highly
> pleased.........at first.
> Easy to maintain, very attractive, etc. But don't drop anything hard
(like
> a pan or dish or tableware or....) on it. I had to replace about 8 sq.ft
in
> front of the sink already.
>
> Max
>
>

HM

"HMFIC@1369"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

05/03/2005 4:10 AM

The problem with the wood skirt is that I can't lock the wheels. I will
certainly look for a wider wheel... Thanks!
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <Qs6Wd.90502$QS5.27445@trndny06>,
> "HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Well It'll be a couple more weeks on the cabinets. In the mean time I'm
> > designing an Island that's moveable I'm stuck with approx 36" by 26".
I'm
> > open to all suggestions, and I only have one concern and that is I
currently
> > have an engineered wood floor that I'm replacing with Ceramic Tile and
my
> > concern is the possible damage from rolling this thing around!
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
>
> 4 Quality casters with a semi-hard, wide tread shouldn't be a problem.
> If you are putting granite on that island, go to a bigger wheel. Hard
> rubber wheels distribute the load more evenly. You can hide those
> unsightly casters by building a wooden skirt around them which can
> double as a footrest.
>
> I guess you're not putting a bar sink in that island, eh?
>
> 0¿0
> ~
>
> Rob

Cc

"Clint"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

06/03/2005 9:00 PM

There are ways to raise/lower the wheel using a lever, rather than using
locking castors that you have to reach down to. Check out some mobile tool
bases. Basically, the wheels are pushed down using a lever, allowing you to
move it around. When you get it where you want it to be, the wheels are
raised up, and the base will rest on some rests instead of the wheels.

With a little ingenuity, you should be able to rig up a lever that operates
at countertop height, or is foot operated through the skirt. Either way
would beat bending over all the time to unlock the wheels, IMHO.

Clint

"HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:5jaWd.59326$W16.3659@trndny07...
> The problem with the wood skirt is that I can't lock the wheels. I will
> certainly look for a wider wheel... Thanks!
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <Qs6Wd.90502$QS5.27445@trndny06>,
>> "HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Well It'll be a couple more weeks on the cabinets. In the mean time I'm
>> > designing an Island that's moveable I'm stuck with approx 36" by 26".
> I'm
>> > open to all suggestions, and I only have one concern and that is I
> currently
>> > have an engineered wood floor that I'm replacing with Ceramic Tile and
> my
>> > concern is the possible damage from rolling this thing around!
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 4 Quality casters with a semi-hard, wide tread shouldn't be a problem.
>> If you are putting granite on that island, go to a bigger wheel. Hard
>> rubber wheels distribute the load more evenly. You can hide those
>> unsightly casters by building a wooden skirt around them which can
>> double as a footrest.
>>
>> I guess you're not putting a bar sink in that island, eh?
>>
>> 0¿0
>> ~
>>
>> Rob
>
>

Mt

"Max"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

05/03/2005 2:14 AM


"HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Qs6Wd.90502$QS5.27445@trndny06...
> Well It'll be a couple more weeks on the cabinets. In the mean time I'm
> designing an Island that's moveable I'm stuck with approx 36" by 26". I'm
> open to all suggestions, and I only have one concern and that is I
> currently
> have an engineered wood floor that I'm replacing with Ceramic Tile and my
> concern is the possible damage from rolling this thing around!
>
> Thanks!

When I put ceramic tile on our kitchen floor my wife was highly
pleased.........at first.
Easy to maintain, very attractive, etc. But don't drop anything hard (like
a pan or dish or tableware or....) on it. I had to replace about 8 sq.ft in
front of the sink already.

Max

JJ

in reply to "Max" on 05/03/2005 2:14 AM

04/03/2005 10:20 PM

Sat, Mar 5, 2005, 2:14am (EST+5) [email protected] (Max)
claims:
<snip> I had to replace about 8 sq.ft in front of the sink already.

Be less clumsy. Or, put down a rubber mat.



JOAT
Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
- David Fasold

HM

"HMFIC@1369"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

05/03/2005 4:30 AM

I agree for the most parts of your arguments. I "had" a beautiful maple
floor, that got flooded, it was painful. The specific ceramic tile I really
really like though. I will have electric heater installed under it, and the
areas where most of the work will be done will have a rubber mat simply for
foot fatigue.... My first choice was just put the maple flooring in again,
then I looked at Bamboo and considered this because it's not as hydroscopic
as wood, but when that tile caught my eye it did fit in perfectly...

Thanks, Joe


"bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A voice of experience here....
>
> Did the ceramic floor thing in the kitchen a couple houses ago. It looks
> great, but......
> 1) it's cold as ice in the winter. your feet will always be cold.
> 2) ANYTHING you drop on it that is hard with chip the tiles. Also,
things
> that normally don't break, like Corelle kitchenware, WILL shatter into a
> gazillion pieces.
> 3) It's impossible to kneel on the floor for any length of time - the
hard
> floor is super hard on your knees.
>
> Fast forward two houses....
> We have hardwood floor (oak) in the kitchen and love it. All of the
> problems above are eliminated. Only issue is to get wet spills mopped up
> quickly. And be a bit careful that your furniture legs have felt bottoms
so
> they don't scratch the floor.
>
> Don't do ceramic in the kitchen.
>
>
>
>
> "HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:Qs6Wd.90502$QS5.27445@trndny06...
> > Well It'll be a couple more weeks on the cabinets. In the mean time I'm
> > designing an Island that's moveable I'm stuck with approx 36" by 26".
I'm
> > open to all suggestions, and I only have one concern and that is I
> > currently
> > have an engineered wood floor that I'm replacing with Ceramic Tile and
my
> > concern is the possible damage from rolling this thing around!
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
>
>

bb

"bob"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

04/03/2005 8:58 PM

A voice of experience here....

Did the ceramic floor thing in the kitchen a couple houses ago. It looks
great, but......
1) it's cold as ice in the winter. your feet will always be cold.
2) ANYTHING you drop on it that is hard with chip the tiles. Also, things
that normally don't break, like Corelle kitchenware, WILL shatter into a
gazillion pieces.
3) It's impossible to kneel on the floor for any length of time - the hard
floor is super hard on your knees.

Fast forward two houses....
We have hardwood floor (oak) in the kitchen and love it. All of the
problems above are eliminated. Only issue is to get wet spills mopped up
quickly. And be a bit careful that your furniture legs have felt bottoms so
they don't scratch the floor.

Don't do ceramic in the kitchen.




"HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Qs6Wd.90502$QS5.27445@trndny06...
> Well It'll be a couple more weeks on the cabinets. In the mean time I'm
> designing an Island that's moveable I'm stuck with approx 36" by 26". I'm
> open to all suggestions, and I only have one concern and that is I
> currently
> have an engineered wood floor that I'm replacing with Ceramic Tile and my
> concern is the possible damage from rolling this thing around!
>
> Thanks!
>
>

HM

"HMFIC@1369"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

05/03/2005 7:54 PM

thanks will do!!
"butch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Consider casters with urethane over metal wheels - less likely than
> rubber to mark and they also look good - would get 2" wide and no small
> diameter than 3" - yes they make them smaller. Suggest u check out
> surplus center . com - good source.
>

HM

"HMFIC@1369"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

05/03/2005 7:54 PM

thanks!
"mp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Well It'll be a couple more weeks on the cabinets. In the mean time I'm
> > designing an Island that's moveable I'm stuck with approx 36" by 26".
I'm
> > open to all suggestions, and I only have one concern and that is I
> > currently
> > have an engineered wood floor that I'm replacing with Ceramic Tile and
my
> > concern is the possible damage from rolling this thing around!
>
> Get the largest diameter rubber wheeled caster that's practical. If you
get
> some with light grey rubber you don't need to worry about scuff marks.
>
>

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

04/03/2005 9:47 PM

In article <Qs6Wd.90502$QS5.27445@trndny06>,
"HMFIC@1369" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well It'll be a couple more weeks on the cabinets. In the mean time I'm
> designing an Island that's moveable I'm stuck with approx 36" by 26". I'm
> open to all suggestions, and I only have one concern and that is I currently
> have an engineered wood floor that I'm replacing with Ceramic Tile and my
> concern is the possible damage from rolling this thing around!
>
> Thanks!
>
>

4 Quality casters with a semi-hard, wide tread shouldn't be a problem.
If you are putting granite on that island, go to a bigger wheel. Hard
rubber wheels distribute the load more evenly. You can hide those
unsightly casters by building a wooden skirt around them which can
double as a footrest.

I guess you're not putting a bar sink in that island, eh?

0¿0
˜

Rob

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

05/03/2005 7:35 AM

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 20:58:21 -0600, the inscrutable "bob"
<[email protected]> spake:

>A voice of experience here....
>
>Did the ceramic floor thing in the kitchen a couple houses ago. It looks
>great, but......
> 1) it's cold as ice in the winter. your feet will always be cold.
> 2) ANYTHING you drop on it that is hard with chip the tiles. Also, things
>that normally don't break, like Corelle kitchenware, WILL shatter into a
>gazillion pieces.
> 3) It's impossible to kneel on the floor for any length of time - the hard
>floor is super hard on your knees.
>
>Fast forward two houses....
>We have hardwood floor (oak) in the kitchen and love it. All of the
>problems above are eliminated. Only issue is to get wet spills mopped up
>quickly. And be a bit careful that your furniture legs have felt bottoms so
>they don't scratch the floor.
>
>Don't do ceramic in the kitchen.

Agreed. When I finally get tired of the ugly linoleum in this kitchen,
I'll be carpeting with i/o carpet and changing "scenes" (color and/or
texture) every few years if necessary or wanted.

I dislike the cold feel of lino, tile, and hardwood flooring, though
I like the ease with which hardwood cleans up.


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HM

"HMFIC@1369"

in reply to "HMFIC@1369" on 04/03/2005 11:48 PM

05/03/2005 10:35 PM

I looked at Cork, I think it's cool just not in the kitchen.
"mp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Agreed. When I finally get tired of the ugly linoleum in this kitchen,
> > I'll be carpeting with i/o carpet and changing "scenes" (color and/or
> > texture) every few years if necessary or wanted.
> >
> > I dislike the cold feel of lino, tile, and hardwood flooring, though
> > I like the ease with which hardwood cleans up.
>
> Have you checked out cork?
>
>


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