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"Fireant"

24/11/2005 2:32 AM

Looking for a Unisaw miter gauge upgrade

Something less than $150 but accurate left and right of the blade. TIA.


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"arw01"

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

23/11/2005 9:20 PM

I have the kreg, the alum bar can flex a bit if you are trying to start
your cut off the table.

I've seen some sales for the Jess'em unit at a bit over your budget,
but it looks like a tank!

I bought the kreg for the venier scale, but a steel miter bar would be
nice vs the alum it comes in.

Alan

gr

"gadgetman"

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 10:11 AM

I have the osborne and the incra 1000se. The incra is very nice, but
the longer cross member for the osborne is good too so I kept both.
The incra fence seems a little flimsy too and I don't find it as easy
to adjust as they say.
One thing I like about the incra is the ability to make sliding faces
from MDF which I seem to find a need for a lot to prevent tear out.
Can't do that on ther osborne.
I have not seen a perfect do it all miter gauge yet.

MBR

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 9:49 AM

"wayne mak" wrote in message
> How many angles do you use? It would seem to me not that many but you
might
> be doing some unique work.

A myriad of angles, most never given precise angular measurement, but copied
instead, and transferred to the jigs, shims, cutting tools, workpieces,
etc., using adjustable "squares".

Copying the angles, many compound, on an antique chair, a project of which I
am in the planning stages as we speak, is an excellent example:

http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/Chairlayout.jpg

... this thing has more angles than Minnesota Fats.

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"Leon"

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 3:39 AM


"Fireant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Something less than $150 but accurate left and right of the blade. TIA.

I can tell you to avoid the latest Osborne. I went through 2 of them before
giving up and exchanging for a Kreg. When setting with the indexing shaft
extended full to 45 degrees both Osborne units had 2 to 3 degrees of
wobble. When collapsing the indexing shaft to obtain 45 degrees it was rock
solid. An apparent design flaw.

MO

Mike O.

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 9:59 AM

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 12:22:33 GMT, Ba r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have the (2) of the cheapest Incras (v.67?), with shop-made
>disposable fences.

I think the cheap one (about $59) is the V27.
The 1000 is more versatile but I like the size of the V27.
If they would put that little degree pointer on the V27 I'd like it a
lot more.

Mike O.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 4:48 PM


"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Ba r r y" wrote in message
>
>> FWIW, all of my 90's are done with sleds. Once you go sled, you'll
>> never go back. <G>
>
> Agreed. If I only had a shop that would hold a sled for every angle ...
> but
> even a sled that would accommodate every angle would do.
>
> http://in-lineindustries.com/
>
> IIRC, Leon has one ...

Yes I do, both left and right sided. I do not know what I would do with out
them. The angles you set are dead on.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 3:36 AM


"Bruce Barnett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Swingman" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> "Fireant" wrote in message
>>> Something less than $150 but accurate left and right of the blade. TIA.
>>
>> The Woodhaven Deluxe fits your parameters. I own one and would buy it
>> again.
>
> The Woodhaven is $119 on Hartville tools.
>
> The Kreg is almost identical. But the Kreg adds a verier to add tenths
> of a degree adjustments, and lets you do micro-adjustments (100th of a
> degree).

The Kreg is a nice unit and they probably have the kinks worked out. I
bought one in the summer of 2004 and Kreg sent me 3 indexing pins and
finally a new miter gauge before getting one that would lock in to 90
degrees with the indexing pin.



Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

23/11/2005 8:42 PM

"Fireant" wrote in message
> Something less than $150 but accurate left and right of the blade. TIA.

The Woodhaven Deluxe fits your parameters. I own one and would buy it again.
Do a Google.

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"Swingman"

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 7:07 AM

"Ba r r y" wrote in message

> FWIW, all of my 90's are done with sleds. Once you go sled, you'll
> never go back. <G>

Agreed. If I only had a shop that would hold a sled for every angle ... but
even a sled that would accommodate every angle would do.

http://in-lineindustries.com/

IIRC, Leon has one ...

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Ba r r y

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 1:22 PM

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 07:07:37 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Agreed. If I only had a shop that would hold a sled for every angle ... but
>even a sled that would accommodate every angle would do.

Hmmmmmm. A 40' storage container for sleds....

Nahhhh, my wife would never put up with it!

Barry

BB

Bruce Barnett

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 3:11 AM

"Swingman" <[email protected]> writes:

> "Fireant" wrote in message
>> Something less than $150 but accurate left and right of the blade. TIA.
>
> The Woodhaven Deluxe fits your parameters. I own one and would buy it again.

The Woodhaven is $119 on Hartville tools.

The Kreg is almost identical. But the Kreg adds a verier to add tenths
of a degree adjustments, and lets you do micro-adjustments (100th of a
degree).


$139.99 on Amazon which includes the 24" metal track (this sells for
$39.99 at Woodcraft) and free shipping.


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Bob G.

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 10:10 AM

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 03:34:42 GMT, "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Rockler has a sale on some items that may fit your budget
>http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=11261
>
>I have both the 1000 and 2000 model with the 2000 being the workhorse. I
>purchased extra aluminum fence's for both and would not trade them for
>anything except a sliding table. If all you're doing is light to medium
>work, the model 1000 will work well but if you're cross-cutting longer,
>heavier pieces of stock, then you should look into the 2000. the manf is
>www.incra.com and one of their major resellers is WoodPeckers at
>http://www.woodpeck.com/
>
>Worth the time to investigate.
>
>Bob S.
>

============
Well Bob G... is going to disagree with Bob S on this one... I own a
Incra 2000 and it gathers dust in my shop...

I just find it very bulky, and heavy, in short I do not like how it
FEELS... I will say that I have absolutely no complaints with its
accuracy... I have been meaning to "step down" to a 1000 for yrears
just never have ...

Bob G.
.

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 1:21 PM

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 07:37:42 -0500, "wayne mak"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>My dad built a custom sled to do angles a real work of art,

If you're doing a lot of an angle, a custom sled can't be beat.

>he puts as much
>time into making his jigs as his toy making.

I know folks like that, I'm not one of them. My own jigs are pretty
ugly, but they're fast and accurate. <G>

Seriously though... Once you've dado'ed shelf sides with stop blocks,
or cut long, heavy, or identical parts on a sled, you'll wonder why
you ever did it any other way.

For that matter, even tiny parts are great opportunities for sleds.
Having something to hold the work while your hands are far from the
blade is a great benefit.

<http://www.bburke.com/wood/sleds.htm>

Bs

"BobS"

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 3:34 AM

Rockler has a sale on some items that may fit your budget
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=11261

I have both the 1000 and 2000 model with the 2000 being the workhorse. I
purchased extra aluminum fence's for both and would not trade them for
anything except a sliding table. If all you're doing is light to medium
work, the model 1000 will work well but if you're cross-cutting longer,
heavier pieces of stock, then you should look into the 2000. the manf is
www.incra.com and one of their major resellers is WoodPeckers at
http://www.woodpeck.com/

Worth the time to investigate.

Bob S.


"Fireant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Something less than $150 but accurate left and right of the blade. TIA.
>

FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 7:06 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Ba r r y <[email protected]> wrote:

> FWIW, all of my 90's are done with sleds. Once you go sled, you'll
> never go back. <G>

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"wayne mak"

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 7:37 AM

My dad built a custom sled to do angles a real work of art, he puts as much
time into making his jigs as his toy making. I suppose being retired allows
for that but he has always done this kind of thing.
"Ba r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 02:32:12 GMT, "Fireant" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Something less than $150 but accurate left and right of the blade. TIA.
>
>
> I have the (2) of the cheapest Incras (v.67?), with shop-made
> disposable fences.
>
> FWIW, all of my 90's are done with sleds. Once you go sled, you'll
> never go back. <G>
>
> Barry

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 12:22 PM

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 02:32:12 GMT, "Fireant" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Something less than $150 but accurate left and right of the blade. TIA.


I have the (2) of the cheapest Incras (v.67?), with shop-made
disposable fences.

FWIW, all of my 90's are done with sleds. Once you go sled, you'll
never go back. <G>

Barry

wm

"wayne mak"

in reply to "Fireant" on 24/11/2005 2:32 AM

24/11/2005 9:38 AM

How many angles do you use? It would seem to me not that many but you might
be doing some unique work.
"Ba r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 07:07:37 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Agreed. If I only had a shop that would hold a sled for every angle ...
>>but
>>even a sled that would accommodate every angle would do.
>
> Hmmmmmm. A 40' storage container for sleds....
>
> Nahhhh, my wife would never put up with it!
>
> Barry


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