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"Upscale"

01/03/2009 1:39 PM

Some things at the Toronto Woodworking Show

Paid my obligatory visit to the Toronto Woodworking Show out at the
International Centre yesterday.

In particular, I focused a great deal of attention on the DeWalt and Festool
track saws. I *was* gratified to see one vendor demonstrating Festool
machinery considering the (to date) apparent lack of Festool attention on
the Canadian market. And, as I was told, there are more vendors about to
offer Festool products in Canada.

Since both vendors had sample pieces of veneered cabinet grade plywood on
hand, I asked for and received demonstrations of crosscutting with both the
DeWalt and Festool track saws. Both produced decent tear out free edges (90°
+ 45° cuts) with what I'd call finished edges equal to anything I could do
on my tablesaw with a 60 tooth carbide tipped blade. As to comparison, I'd
say they're pretty well matched capability wise. The main differences would
be the much higher price of the Festool products. Conversely, the benefit to
the Festool line is that it's an entire system with many of their tools
being able to work together. So, it comes down to price versus convenience.

More often than not, I have 4x8 sheets of plywood somewhere in the works
when I'm building something. So, the convenience and versatility of a track
saw often comes to mind more frequently as I progress. Aside from a few
functions like dados and such, I'd offer up that a track saw with suitable
lengths of track, negates the need for a table saw and even more so with a
panel saw. A big side benefit is that a track saw with the use of a
connected vacuum, products much less mess than any tablesaw. The only thing
a track saw really does need, is suitable table space to use it.

Most definitely, they're worth the money in my opinion.


This topic has 4 replies

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FrozenNorth

in reply to "Upscale" on 01/03/2009 1:39 PM

01/03/2009 4:23 PM

Robatoy wrote:

> On Mar 1, 1:39 pm, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Paid my obligatory visit to the Toronto Woodworking Show out at the
>> International Centre yesterday.
>>
>> In particular, I focused a great deal of attention on the DeWalt and
>> Festool track saws. I *was* gratified to see one vendor demonstrating
>> Festool machinery considering the (to date) apparent lack of Festool
>> attention on the Canadian market. And, as I was told, there are more
>> vendors about to offer Festool products in Canada.
>>
>> Since both vendors had sample pieces of veneered cabinet grade plywood on
>> hand, I asked for and received demonstrations of crosscutting with both
>> the DeWalt and Festool track saws. Both produced decent tear out free
>> edges (90° + 45° cuts) with what I'd call finished edges equal to
>> anything I could do on my tablesaw with a 60 tooth carbide tipped blade.
>> As to comparison, I'd say they're pretty well matched capability wise.
>> The main differences would be the much higher price of the Festool
>> products. Conversely, the benefit to the Festool line is that it's an
>> entire system with many of their tools being able to work together. So,
>> it comes down to price versus convenience.
>>
>> More often than not, I have 4x8 sheets of plywood somewhere in the works
>> when I'm building something. So, the convenience and versatility of a
>> track saw often comes to mind more frequently as I progress. Aside from a
>> few functions like dados and such, I'd offer up that a track saw with
>> suitable lengths of track, negates the need for a table saw and even more
>> so with a panel saw. A big side benefit is that a track saw with the use
>> of a connected vacuum, products much less mess than any tablesaw. The
>> only thing a track saw really does need, is suitable table space to use
>> it.
>>
>> Most definitely, they're worth the money in my opinion.
>
> Shit! Was that this weekend??

Over at 5pm tonight, you better hurry.
;-)
--
Froz...

2 feet longer than a d00tchie.

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Upscale" on 01/03/2009 1:39 PM

01/03/2009 1:04 PM

On Mar 1, 1:39=A0pm, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Paid my obligatory visit to the Toronto Woodworking Show out at the
> International Centre yesterday.
>
> In particular, I focused a great deal of attention on the DeWalt and Fest=
ool
> track saws. I *was* gratified to see one vendor demonstrating Festool
> machinery considering the (to date) apparent lack of Festool attention on
> the Canadian market. And, as I was told, there are more vendors about to
> offer Festool products in Canada.
>
> Since both vendors had sample pieces of veneered cabinet grade plywood on
> hand, I asked for and received demonstrations of crosscutting with both t=
he
> DeWalt and Festool track saws. Both produced decent tear out free edges (=
90=B0
> + 45=B0 cuts) with what I'd call finished edges equal to anything I could=
do
> on my tablesaw with a 60 tooth carbide tipped blade. As to comparison, I'=
d
> say they're pretty well matched capability wise. The main differences wou=
ld
> be the much higher price of the Festool products. Conversely, the benefit=
to
> the Festool line is that it's an entire system with many of their tools
> being able to work together. So, it comes down to price versus convenienc=
e.
>
> More often than not, I have 4x8 sheets of plywood somewhere in the works
> when I'm building something. So, the convenience and versatility of a tra=
ck
> saw often comes to mind more frequently as I progress. Aside from a few
> functions like dados and such, I'd offer up that a track saw with suitabl=
e
> lengths of track, negates the need for a table saw and even more so with =
a
> panel saw. A big side benefit is that a track saw with the use of a
> connected vacuum, products much less mess than any tablesaw. The only thi=
ng
> a track saw really does need, is suitable table space to use it.
>
> Most definitely, they're worth the money in my opinion.

Shit! Was that this weekend??

RC

Robatoy

in reply to "Upscale" on 01/03/2009 1:39 PM

01/03/2009 1:59 PM

On Mar 1, 4:23=A0pm, FrozenNorth <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Mar 1, 1:39=A0pm, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Paid my obligatory visit to the Toronto Woodworking Show out at the
> >> International Centre yesterday.
>
> >> In particular, I focused a great deal of attention on the DeWalt and
> >> Festool track saws. I *was* gratified to see one vendor demonstrating
> >> Festool machinery considering the (to date) apparent lack of Festool
> >> attention on the Canadian market. And, as I was told, there are more
> >> vendors about to offer Festool products in Canada.
>
> >> Since both vendors had sample pieces of veneered cabinet grade plywood=
on
> >> hand, I asked for and received demonstrations of crosscutting with bot=
h
> >> the DeWalt and Festool track saws. Both produced decent tear out free
> >> edges (90=B0 + 45=B0 cuts) with what I'd call finished edges equal to
> >> anything I could do on my tablesaw with a 60 tooth carbide tipped blad=
e.
> >> As to comparison, I'd say they're pretty well matched capability wise.
> >> The main differences would be the much higher price of the Festool
> >> products. Conversely, the benefit to the Festool line is that it's an
> >> entire system with many of their tools being able to work together. So=
,
> >> it comes down to price versus convenience.
>
> >> More often than not, I have 4x8 sheets of plywood somewhere in the wor=
ks
> >> when I'm building something. So, the convenience and versatility of a
> >> track saw often comes to mind more frequently as I progress. Aside fro=
m a
> >> few functions like dados and such, I'd offer up that a track saw with
> >> suitable lengths of track, negates the need for a table saw and even m=
ore
> >> so with a panel saw. A big side benefit is that a track saw with the u=
se
> >> of a connected vacuum, products much less mess than any tablesaw. The
> >> only thing a track saw really does need, is suitable table space to us=
e
> >> it.
>
> >> Most definitely, they're worth the money in my opinion.
>
> > Shit! Was that this weekend??
>
> Over at 5pm tonight, you better hurry.
> ;-)
> --
> Froz...
>
> 2 feet longer than a d00tchie.

Even the Bi-Turbo can't handle that. ;(

Dd

"DGDevin"

in reply to "Upscale" on 01/03/2009 1:39 PM

01/03/2009 12:56 PM

Upscale wrote:

> More often than not, I have 4x8 sheets of plywood somewhere in the
> works when I'm building something. So, the convenience and
> versatility of a track saw often comes to mind more frequently as I
> progress. Aside from a few functions like dados and such, I'd offer
> up that a track saw with suitable lengths of track, negates the need
> for a table saw and even more so with a panel saw. A big side benefit
> is that a track saw with the use of a connected vacuum, products much
> less mess than any tablesaw. The only thing a track saw really does
> need, is suitable table space to use it.
>
> Most definitely, they're worth the money in my opinion.

Recently my el-cheapo Skil circular saw got together with an Emerson cutting
guide, and even without using the mounting plate which really locks the saw
to the cutting guide I trimmed the edges of some laminated pine so straight
and so clean that with a bit of sanding and some stain I had a wooden
bookmark less than a 16th" thick for my wife, stamped her name into it too,
big bonus points. If such a primitive setup can produce results like that,
the mind boggles at what Festool's track saw setup can do.


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