To: Mike Marlow
On 12/7/2014 9:49 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 12/7/2014 4:56 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> FWIW we replaced a Whirlpool with a Bosch and that lasted 30 days. I
>>>> simply did not clean dishes as well as the unit we Whirlpool I
>>>> pulled out. The only reason for replacing the Whirlpoos was that
>>>> the plastic on the racks was cracking and falling off of the metal
>>>> racks and we were getting rust. New racks were about half the
>>>> price of a new DW. 30 days later we replaced the new Bosch with a
>>>> Whirlpool.
>>>
>>> There's a product out there for redoing that coating. It's called
>>> something like dishwasher rerack. It seems to be holding its own on
>>> the 10 year old dish washer, but I haven't gone and looked.
>>>
>>> It stinks up the place something fierce. A summer outdoor
>>> application would be advisable.
>>>
>>> Puckdropper
>>>
>>
>>
>> I saw touch up bottles of the rubberized/vinylized product but we had
>> 2 racks that were cracking and peeling all over. It was about $500 to
>> replace two racks in a 15 year+ old dishwasher or go $999 for all
>> new. ;~)
>
> I'll chine in with this - if any of you have really ever found a dishwasher
> to produce "sparkling clean" dishes - just tell me what you bought. I'm
> sorry - but this is just pure crap. Dishwashers just do not perform like
> this. One is pretty much the same as the other - they do pretty well, but
> if anyone really believes there is a "sparkling clearn" or "sparkly white"
> or "sparkling anything", they are just fooling themselves. Or... they have
> some really low level standards for cleanliness.
>
I'll state again, Whirlpool always in pot scrubber mode. We go straight
to the dishwasher from the table and don't run it until it is full. In
some cases this might be 2 days later. Maybe once a month some thing
might come out with a spec of debris because it was too full.
I'm not talking entry models so much as top or near the top of the line.
We are on our 3rd Whirlpool.
First home 34 years ago came with the builders grade Gaffers&Stratson or
something like that. We struggled with that for 7 years. Bought a top
end Whirlpool and used it for 15 plus years until the trays began
rusting and replaced with a Bosch. The Bosch lasted a month and we
exchanged it for another top end Whirlpool with SS tub about 12 years
ago. My son is still using it, we moved out. We had a new home built
and the builder only offered GE appliances. I made a deal with a
builder appliance supplier and traded in the unused GE dishwasher for a
top end Whirlpool a step down from the top, with out SS tub. That was 4
years ago and the DW is performing as all have in the past.
I might add that the quality of your water has a lot to do with any DW
cleaning properly. Hard water cuts down on the dish soap's capacity to
work through out the wash cycle. We use a water softener.
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To: Leon
Leon wrote:
> I'll state again, Whirlpool always in pot scrubber mode. We go
> straight to the dishwasher from the table and don't run it until it
> is full. In some cases this might be 2 days later. Maybe once a
> month some thing might come out with a spec of debris because it was
> too full.
I'm going to try this. Ours is a Maytag and I just looked to see what mode
we run it in. It appears we usually use Normal mode - at least I do... not
sure what mode my wife uses. It's not that it does a terrible job but this
is one of those things that really bugs me - More often than I wish, things
don't come out as I think they should. Sauces like tomato sauce seem to
harden on too well if not pre-rinsed and allowed to sit in the washer for a
couple of days. Sparkling clean is something I would never attribute to any
dish washer we've ever owned - and it kinda pisses me off. It's seldom that
we overload ours, though I suppose that does happen from time to time.
> I'm not talking entry models so much as top or near the top of the
> line. We are on our 3rd Whirlpool.
Likewise, our Maytag was reputed to be at or near top of the line when we
bought it.
> First home 34 years ago came with the builders grade Gaffers&Stratson
> or something like that. We struggled with that for 7 years. Bought
> a top end Whirlpool and used it for 15 plus years until the trays
> began rusting and replaced with a Bosch. The Bosch lasted a month
> and we exchanged it for another top end Whirlpool with SS tub about
> 12 years ago. My son is still using it, we moved out. We had a new
> home built and the builder only offered GE appliances. I made a deal
> with a builder appliance supplier and traded in the unused GE
> dishwasher for a top end Whirlpool a step down from the top, with out
> SS tub. That was 4 years ago and the DW is performing as all have in
> the past.
I'm pretty sure our previous dish washer was a Whirlpool - about 90% sure of
that. It pretty much operated like our Maytag does today. Products like
this we buy from applicance stores - not from HD, or Walmart, or the like.
Always though a higher end product selection was available from the
appliance stores.
>
> I might add that the quality of your water has a lot to do with any DW
> cleaning properly. Hard water cuts down on the dish soap's capacity
> to work through out the wash cycle. We use a water softener.
Very true. I have a water softener installed because we are on a private
well so that almost guarantees hard water - at least around here it does. I
plumbed mine in to service the whole house except for the spiggots outside.
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To: Mike Marlow
On 12/8/2014 9:11 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>> I'll state again, Whirlpool always in pot scrubber mode. We go
>> straight to the dishwasher from the table and don't run it until it
>> is full. In some cases this might be 2 days later. Maybe once a
>> month some thing might come out with a spec of debris because it was
>> too full.
>
> I'm going to try this. Ours is a Maytag and I just looked to see what mode
> we run it in. It appears we usually use Normal mode - at least I do... not
> sure what mode my wife uses. It's not that it does a terrible job but this
> is one of those things that really bugs me - More often than I wish, things
> don't come out as I think they should. Sauces like tomato sauce seem to
> harden on too well if not pre-rinsed and allowed to sit in the washer for a
> couple of days. Sparkling clean is something I would never attribute to any
> dish washer we've ever owned - and it kinda pisses me off. It's seldom that
> we overload ours, though I suppose that does happen from time to time.
>
>> I'm not talking entry models so much as top or near the top of the
>> line. We are on our 3rd Whirlpool.
>
> Likewise, our Maytag was reputed to be at or near top of the line when we
> bought it.
>
>> First home 34 years ago came with the builders grade Gaffers&Stratson
>> or something like that. We struggled with that for 7 years. Bought
>> a top end Whirlpool and used it for 15 plus years until the trays
>> began rusting and replaced with a Bosch. The Bosch lasted a month
>> and we exchanged it for another top end Whirlpool with SS tub about
>> 12 years ago. My son is still using it, we moved out. We had a new
>> home built and the builder only offered GE appliances. I made a deal
>> with a builder appliance supplier and traded in the unused GE
>> dishwasher for a top end Whirlpool a step down from the top, with out
>> SS tub. That was 4 years ago and the DW is performing as all have in
>> the past.
>
> I'm pretty sure our previous dish washer was a Whirlpool - about 90% sure of
> that. It pretty much operated like our Maytag does today. Products like
> this we buy from applicance stores - not from HD, or Walmart, or the like.
> Always though a higher end product selection was available from the
> appliance stores.
>
>>
>> I might add that the quality of your water has a lot to do with any DW
>> cleaning properly. Hard water cuts down on the dish soap's capacity
>> to work through out the wash cycle. We use a water softener.
>
> Very true. I have a water softener installed because we are on a private
> well so that almost guarantees hard water - at least around here it does. I
> plumbed mine in to service the whole house except for the spiggots outside.
>
FWIW I don't know of any time that we do not ours of in anything less
than pot scrubber mode. We even have a turbo mode that cleans baked on
casserole pans. And Jet Dry helps.
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