MD

Morris Dovey

19/01/2010 10:41 PM

OT: Minor Float


All the talk about sailing prompted me to rummage around for some photos
of a leisurely couple of weeks in and around the French West Indies.
When I finally found 'em, I decided this might be a good time of year to
share these (mostly) sunny vistas. Enjoy!

The crew consisted of two Iowans, two Tennesseans (sp?), and two
Virginians. This Iowan hid behind the camera. :)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/


This topic has 24 replies

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

21/01/2010 8:55 PM


"Larry Jaques" wrote:

> Does the 2 indicate a shallower draft, Lew?

Totally clueless.

Lew


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

21/01/2010 12:56 PM


"Morris Dovey" wrote:

> My sister Lisa and her husband John sail an O'Day 302 out of
> Yorktown whenever they can.
--------------------------------

Ah-Ha, now it makes sense.

Somebody had to have some sailing experience.

They just don't charter a boat to just anybody without some documented
experience.

Lew


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

21/01/2010 12:24 AM

"Morris Dovey" wrote:


> We got on well, and the only time it felt a bit cramped was during
> meal preparations - which the gals solved by limiting the galley
> crew to two of them at a time on a rotating schedule, and by
> scheduling the men (one to grill and two to supervise) to grill the
> meat (topside) and dry the dishes.

Two cooks in the galley of a 34, now that is an accomplishment.

> I was usually first awake, so I put on the morning coffee and
> sloshed a couple of buckets of water around the cockpit to chase the
> sand/crumbs out. I think we all adopted some regular chores, and
> that helped make life easy.

One way or another, a schedule evolves.

> It was a group with remarkably diverse (and to me, fascinating) life
> experiences, considerable fondness for humor, and many stories to
> share...

That's why talking to people is so much fun.


> A dozen would have felt crowded. I think I'd have been inclined to
> put the second six in the dinghy. :)

A dozen was definitely not much more than a harbor cruise.

>> BTW, that Genny a 150?
>
> I don't know.

If the Genny was big enough to lap back past the side stays holding up
the mast, it was probably a "150".

Translation:

There are various sizes of triangular head sails starting with a
working sail or 100% which is the size developed by the sail designer.

Each sail is a little larger, 110%, 120%, 135%, 150%, and sometimes
even a 170%.

A 150 is quite common as the largest or #1 head sail.

A spinnaker or "chute" is a whole different thing.

(More than you ever wanted to know about sails)

Lew


LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

20/01/2010 9:30 PM


"Morris Dovey" wrote:

> The Athéna is/was a rental Beneteau 34 and is indeed a beautiful,
> easy-to-sail boat. The sail is called a genoa (like a jib except
> that when unfurled a genoa extends behind the mast to overlap the
> main).
>
> The furler allows furling/unfurling a genoa or jib from the comfort
> of the cockpit. Clever, eh? :)
------------------------------------
6 folks on a 34.

Needless to say your were a friendly bunch<G>.

On my 30, when people asked, "How many...", I had a standard answer.

"Day sail a dozen, sundowners and/or dinner for 6, and at the end of
the evening, there is room for a bunk buddy and me."

BTW, that Genny a 150?

Lew


LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

21/01/2010 5:38 AM

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:39:13 -0600, the infamous Morris Dovey
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On 1/20/2010 9:39 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> Beautiful boat, beautiful surroundings. Cool. Was that big blue
>> thang in front a spinnaker sail wrapped around a pole on a bow line?
>> It looked like it had a winding mechanism on the bottom. Cool2.
>
>The Athéna is/was a rental Beneteau 34 and is indeed a beautiful,
>easy-to-sail boat. The sail is called a genoa (like a jib except that
>when unfurled a genoa extends behind the mast to overlap the main).
>
>The furler allows furling/unfurling a genoa or jib from the comfort of
>the cockpit. Clever, eh? :)

Extremely. I like it!

Ugh, I just Watcoed a piece of moulding for a client's rental and my
fingers reek of it, even through the latex gloves.

--
The greatest fine art of the future will be the making
of a comfortable living from a small piece of land.
--Abraham Lincoln

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

20/01/2010 5:27 AM

On Jan 20, 1:21=A0am, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/19/2010 11:40 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > Google Earth shows that a lot of those islands are just punched up
> > from the ocean floor. Montserrat is in that neighbourhood, right?
>
> Montserrat is the next inhabited island down (~30 miles) from Nevis. The
> island itself was marked off-limits on our charts (because one of its 3
> volcanos is active), so we swung around Nevis and headed back north.
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USAhttp://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

A benefit concert at Royal Albert Hall raised a lot of money for
Montserrat and also leaving us with a DVD of Mark Knopfler doing
Brothers In Arms (Just awesome) and Paul McCartney doing Golden
Slumbers in a way that's almost creepy... that how good it is. The
song on it are:
Take Me Home (Phil Collins), Hot, Hot, Hot (Arrow), Blue Suede Shoes
(Carl Perkins), Volcano (Jimmy Buffett), Brothers in Arms, Money For
Nothing (Mark Knopfler), Message In a Bottle, Magic (Sting), Your
Song, Live Like Horses, Don't Let the Sun Go Down On Me (Elton John),
Broken Hearted, Layla, Same Old Blues (Eric Clapton), Yesterday,
Golden Slumbers, Hey Jude, Kansas City (Paul McCartney).
I can't believe that was done 13 years ago.

Google Earth really shows the devastation and gives a bit of an
inkling how a tropical paradise can be transformed into hell-on-earth
is just a few short moments.

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

21/01/2010 3:28 PM

On Jan 21, 5:34=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/21/2010 2:56 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
> > "Morris Dovey" wrote:
>
> >> My sister Lisa and her husband John sail an O'Day 302 out of
> >> Yorktown whenever they can.
> > --------------------------------
>
> > Ah-Ha, now it makes sense.
>
> > Somebody had to have some sailing experience.
>
> > They just don't charter a boat to just anybody without some documented
> > experience.
>
> The guy at the helm in the picture, with the foul weather slicker and a
> cup of coffee in hand, sure had that cast in his eye that said "sailor".
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)

The only thing missing was the patch and the pegleg.

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

21/01/2010 4:34 PM

On 1/21/2010 2:56 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Morris Dovey" wrote:
>
>> My sister Lisa and her husband John sail an O'Day 302 out of
>> Yorktown whenever they can.
> --------------------------------
>
> Ah-Ha, now it makes sense.
>
> Somebody had to have some sailing experience.
>
> They just don't charter a boat to just anybody without some documented
> experience.

The guy at the helm in the picture, with the foul weather slicker and a
cup of coffee in hand, sure had that cast in his eye that said "sailor".

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

Hn

Han

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

20/01/2010 11:18 AM

Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote in news:hj61jk$mip$2
@speranza.aioe.org:

> On 1/19/2010 10:41 PM, Morris Dovey wrote:
>>
>> All the talk about sailing prompted me to rummage around for some photos
>> of a leisurely couple of weeks in and around the French West Indies.
>> When I finally found 'em, I decided this might be a good time of year to
>> share these (mostly) sunny vistas. Enjoy!
>>
>> The crew consisted of two Iowans, two Tennesseans (sp?), and two
>> Virginians. This Iowan hid behind the camera. :)
>
> A link would probably help...
>
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/FWI/
>
>:-/
>
I'm jealous. It is wintry here in Jersey ...

Great photos, Morris! Please do tell me when you need a crew member ...

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

19/01/2010 9:40 PM

On Jan 20, 12:15=A0am, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/19/2010 10:47 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > Life's rough, eh? *S*
>
> > Nice looking reportage.
>
> This was my sisters genius - some quiet (well, not /always/ quiet) time
> for catching up and storytelling on a rented boat in a pleasant place.
> Six people sharing the chores (and splitting the boat rental) made for
> lots of relaxation and a surprisingly inexpensive vacation.
>
> That's what I'd like to do when I retire. <snort>
>
> Did you notice that the islands are all volcanic? I'd never realized
> that before.
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USAhttp://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

Google Earth shows that a lot of those islands are just punched up
from the ocean floor. Montserrat is in that neighbourhood, right?

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

19/01/2010 8:47 PM

On Jan 19, 11:42=A0pm, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/19/2010 10:41 PM, Morris Dovey wrote:
>
>
>
> > All the talk about sailing prompted me to rummage around for some photo=
s
> > of a leisurely couple of weeks in and around the French West Indies.
> > When I finally found 'em, I decided this might be a good time of year t=
o
> > share these (mostly) sunny vistas. Enjoy!
>
> > The crew consisted of two Iowans, two Tennesseans (sp?), and two
> > Virginians. This Iowan hid behind the camera. :)
>
> A link would probably help...
>
> =A0 =A0http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/FWI/
>
> :-/
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USAhttp://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

Life's rough, eh? *S*

Nice looking reportage.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

20/01/2010 7:39 PM

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:42:17 -0600, the infamous Morris Dovey
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On 1/19/2010 10:41 PM, Morris Dovey wrote:
>>
>> All the talk about sailing prompted me to rummage around for some photos
>> of a leisurely couple of weeks in and around the French West Indies.
>> When I finally found 'em, I decided this might be a good time of year to
>> share these (mostly) sunny vistas. Enjoy!
>>
>> The crew consisted of two Iowans, two Tennesseans (sp?), and two
>> Virginians. This Iowan hid behind the camera. :)
>
>A link would probably help...
>
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/FWI/
>
>:-/

Beautiful boat, beautiful surroundings. Cool. Was that big blue
thang in front a spinnaker sail wrapped around a pole on a bow line?
It looked like it had a winding mechanism on the bottom. Cool2.

--
The greatest fine art of the future will be the making
of a comfortable living from a small piece of land.
--Abraham Lincoln

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

19/01/2010 10:42 PM

On 1/19/2010 10:41 PM, Morris Dovey wrote:
>
> All the talk about sailing prompted me to rummage around for some photos
> of a leisurely couple of weeks in and around the French West Indies.
> When I finally found 'em, I decided this might be a good time of year to
> share these (mostly) sunny vistas. Enjoy!
>
> The crew consisted of two Iowans, two Tennesseans (sp?), and two
> Virginians. This Iowan hid behind the camera. :)

A link would probably help...

http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/FWI/

:-/

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

19/01/2010 11:15 PM

On 1/19/2010 10:47 PM, Robatoy wrote:

> Life's rough, eh? *S*
>
> Nice looking reportage.

This was my sisters genius - some quiet (well, not /always/ quiet) time
for catching up and storytelling on a rented boat in a pleasant place.
Six people sharing the chores (and splitting the boat rental) made for
lots of relaxation and a surprisingly inexpensive vacation.

That's what I'd like to do when I retire. <snort>

Did you notice that the islands are all volcanic? I'd never realized
that before.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

20/01/2010 12:21 AM

On 1/19/2010 11:40 PM, Robatoy wrote:

> Google Earth shows that a lot of those islands are just punched up
> from the ocean floor. Montserrat is in that neighbourhood, right?

Montserrat is the next inhabited island down (~30 miles) from Nevis. The
island itself was marked off-limits on our charts (because one of its 3
volcanos is active), so we swung around Nevis and headed back north.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

20/01/2010 3:49 PM

Morris Dovey wrote:

> The crew consisted of two Iowans, two Tennesseans (sp?), and two
> Virginians. This Iowan hid behind the camera. :)
>
Excellent pictures...

One of your friends has a local t-shirt on...

"Litchfield Beach" is here in my neighborhood.

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

20/01/2010 4:47 PM

On 1/20/2010 2:49 PM, Pat Barber wrote:
> Morris Dovey wrote:
>
>> The crew consisted of two Iowans, two Tennesseans (sp?), and two
>> Virginians. This Iowan hid behind the camera. :)
>>
> Excellent pictures...

Thanks. I probably should have taken more - but was too busy gabbing
most of the time to remember the camera.

> One of your friends has a local t-shirt on...
>
> "Litchfield Beach" is here in my neighborhood.

I had to look. Fred (in the t-shirt) and Marty (in aqua) hail from the
Volunteer State. I believe that if it were possible, they'd move
Tennessee to the coast. :)

It's been frozen and foggy here for most of the past week, with freezing
rain all day today - perfect weather for looking at photos of past
vacations and planning the next...

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

20/01/2010 10:39 PM

On 1/20/2010 9:39 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

> Beautiful boat, beautiful surroundings. Cool. Was that big blue
> thang in front a spinnaker sail wrapped around a pole on a bow line?
> It looked like it had a winding mechanism on the bottom. Cool2.

The Athéna is/was a rental Beneteau 34 and is indeed a beautiful,
easy-to-sail boat. The sail is called a genoa (like a jib except that
when unfurled a genoa extends behind the mast to overlap the main).

The furler allows furling/unfurling a genoa or jib from the comfort of
the cockpit. Clever, eh? :)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

21/01/2010 12:51 AM

On 1/20/2010 11:30 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:

> 6 folks on a 34.
>
> Needless to say you were a friendly bunch<G>.

We got on well, and the only time it felt a bit cramped was during meal
preparations - which the gals solved by limiting the galley crew to two
of them at a time on a rotating schedule, and by scheduling the men (one
to grill and two to supervise) to grill the meat (topside) and dry the
dishes. I was usually first awake, so I put on the morning coffee and
sloshed a couple of buckets of water around the cockpit to chase the
sand/crumbs out. I think we all adopted some regular chores, and that
helped make life easy.

It was a group with remarkably diverse (and to me, fascinating) life
experiences, considerable fondness for humor, and many stories to share...

> On my 30, when people asked, "How many...", I had a standard answer.
>
> "Day sail a dozen, sundowners and/or dinner for 6, and at the end of
> the evening, there is room for a bunk buddy and me."

Athéna had three staterooms and two heads, so if anyone wanted to get up
and fix a midnight snack, they could do that without disturbing anyone
other than possibly their bunk mate.

A dozen would have felt crowded. I think I'd have been inclined to put
the second six in the dinghy. :)

> BTW, that Genny a 150?

I don't know.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

21/01/2010 3:39 AM

On 1/21/2010 2:24 AM, Lew Hodgett wrote:

> A 150 is quite common as the largest or #1 head sail.

Then that's probably what it was - it'd seem reasonable that these boats
are rigged so as to be most familiar to most people.

> A spinnaker or "chute" is a whole different thing.

I don't recall seeing a bag of appropriate size, but if we'd been aware
of one, we probably would have passed. That trip was all about taking it
easy. Carol and I only get to sail every couple of years, and I gather
the same is true for Fred and Marty - so we brought more enthusiasm than
experience. My sister Lisa and her husband John sail an O'Day 302 out of
Yorktown whenever they can.

> (More than you ever wanted to know about sails)

Not so - I get kidded about being "Dr What-Why-How", Dr Who's long lost
not-quite oriental cousin. It's fortunate that John likes to talk about
sailing or I'd have been left somewhere along the way. :)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

21/01/2010 5:31 PM

On 1/21/2010 4:34 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/21/2010 2:56 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "Morris Dovey" wrote:
>>
>>> My sister Lisa and her husband John sail an O'Day 302 out of
>>> Yorktown whenever they can.
>> --------------------------------
>>
>> Ah-Ha, now it makes sense.
>>
>> Somebody had to have some sailing experience.
>>
>> They just don't charter a boat to just anybody without some documented
>> experience.

Interestingly, no documents other than passports and a check were
required - and renters with no sailing experience were encouraged to
enroll in a two-hour hands-on training session.

> The guy at the helm in the picture, with the foul weather slicker and a
> cup of coffee in hand, sure had that cast in his eye that said "sailor".

John pretty much knows what he's doing - and he's not a risk-taker. We
got caught in a chilly rainstorm in the channel between Nevis and St
Kitts, and that cast in his eye says: "I'm /really/ enjoying this hot
chocolate".

I should mention that he enjoys woodworking and (my bad influence)
browsing the LV catalog. In previous lives he was an ASW pilot, then a
Presbyterian minister. His O'Day is "Sanctuary" and the dinghy is "Pew". :)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

21/01/2010 5:45 AM

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:24:37 -0800, the infamous "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>"Morris Dovey" wrote:
>
>
>> We got on well, and the only time it felt a bit cramped was during
>> meal preparations - which the gals solved by limiting the galley
>> crew to two of them at a time on a rotating schedule, and by
>> scheduling the men (one to grill and two to supervise) to grill the
>> meat (topside) and dry the dishes.
>
>Two cooks in the galley of a 34, now that is an accomplishment.
>
>> I was usually first awake, so I put on the morning coffee and
>> sloshed a couple of buckets of water around the cockpit to chase the
>> sand/crumbs out. I think we all adopted some regular chores, and
>> that helped make life easy.
>
>One way or another, a schedule evolves.
>
>> It was a group with remarkably diverse (and to me, fascinating) life
>> experiences, considerable fondness for humor, and many stories to
>> share...
>
>That's why talking to people is so much fun.

Hear, hear!


>> A dozen would have felt crowded. I think I'd have been inclined to
>> put the second six in the dinghy. :)
>
>A dozen was definitely not much more than a harbor cruise.

Unless it was you and 11 bikinied babes. Think of THAT night! <domg>


>>> BTW, that Genny a 150?
>>
>> I don't know.
>
>If the Genny was big enough to lap back past the side stays holding up
>the mast, it was probably a "150".
>
>Translation:
>
>There are various sizes of triangular head sails starting with a
>working sail or 100% which is the size developed by the sail designer.
>
>Each sail is a little larger, 110%, 120%, 135%, 150%, and sometimes
>even a 170%.
>
>A 150 is quite common as the largest or #1 head sail.

I'll bet those things put a definite tug on the rudder.


>A spinnaker or "chute" is a whole different thing.
>
>(More than you ever wanted to know about sails)

Wasn't. Was just about enough for today. What's tomorrow's lesson?
Which sail is used where/when, OK?

--
The greatest fine art of the future will be the making
of a comfortable living from a small piece of land.
--Abraham Lincoln

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

21/01/2010 8:50 PM

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:56:59 -0800, the infamous "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>
>"Morris Dovey" wrote:
>
>> My sister Lisa and her husband John sail an O'Day 302 out of
>> Yorktown whenever they can.
>--------------------------------
>
>Ah-Ha, now it makes sense.
>
>Somebody had to have some sailing experience.
>
>They just don't charter a boat to just anybody without some documented
>experience.

Does the 2 indicate a shallower draft, Lew? A quick peek here made me
guess that. http://www.sailboatlistings.com/sailboats/O%27Day

--
The greatest fine art of the future will be the making
of a comfortable living from a small piece of land.
--Abraham Lincoln

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to Morris Dovey on 19/01/2010 10:41 PM

24/01/2010 4:31 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 1/21/2010 4:34 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 1/21/2010 2:56 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> "Morris Dovey" wrote:
>>>
>>>> My sister Lisa and her husband John sail an O'Day 302 out of
>>>> Yorktown whenever they can.
>>> --------------------------------
>>>
>>> Ah-Ha, now it makes sense.
>>>
>>> Somebody had to have some sailing experience.
>>>
>>> They just don't charter a boat to just anybody without some documented
>>> experience.
>
>Interestingly, no documents other than passports and a check were
>required - and renters with no sailing experience were encouraged to
>enroll in a two-hour hands-on training session.
>
>> The guy at the helm in the picture, with the foul weather slicker and a
>> cup of coffee in hand, sure had that cast in his eye that said "sailor".
>
>John pretty much knows what he's doing - and he's not a risk-taker. We
>got caught in a chilly rainstorm in the channel between Nevis and St
>Kitts, and that cast in his eye says: "I'm /really/ enjoying this hot
>chocolate".
>
>I should mention that he enjoys woodworking and (my bad influence)
>browsing the LV catalog. In previous lives he was an ASW pilot, then a
>Presbyterian minister. His O'Day is "Sanctuary" and the dinghy is "Pew". :)

Not the least bit nave, is he? I also hope he's sure-footed -- otherwise
he might trip and fall on his apse.

*grin*


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