Hack saw push or pull ?

Update.
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You can install the blade either way; however, if you install it to
cut on the push stroke; you get your body behind your stroke.

If you install the blade to cut on the pull stroke, your arms provide
the power.

I'm lazy.

I'll take getting my arse behind my push stroke every time out of the
box.

YMMV

Lew


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"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Dan Jefferson" wrote:
>
> I need to cut some steel rod.
>
> Should a hacksaw blade be placed in the saw so as it cuts on the
> push or pull stroke or is just the users choice ?
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> Cut on push stroke, but set the cut line to start on pull stroke.
>
> Use some cutting oil and let the saw do the work.
>
> Have fun.
>
> Lew

"Dan Jefferson" wrote:

I need to cut some steel rod.

Should a hacksaw blade be placed in the saw so as it cuts on the push
or pull stroke or is just the users choice ?
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Cut on push stroke, but set the cut line to start on pull stroke.

Use some cutting oil and let the saw do the work.

Have fun.

Lew

"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Jan 19, 10:02 pm, "Dan Jefferson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need to cut some steel rod.
>
> Should a hacksaw blade be placed in the saw so as it cuts on the push or
> pull stroke or is just the users choice ?

Use a jigsaw with a metal blade.
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Or a recip saw.

"J. Clarke" wrote
>
> Strongly recommend the recip. A good jigsaw will do it but my old Bosch
> died the death doing that--it's repairable but the part has to come from
> Switzerland (it's an _old_ Bosch)and I didn't want to wait that long so I
> got a new saw. Dunno if it's just a coincidence or not but I've been
> using
> the recip saw for that sort of thing ever since.
>
Yep. I got a recip saw a couple years ago and it has been only used a few
times. But each time, it was the right tool for the job and much simpler
than any other alternative I had.

Two things became very apparent about using this saw. The first is that you
must use sharp blades. Dull blades become and exercise in self abuse. The
other is that you must secure the stock. Clamp it down, put it in a vise or
stand on it. But make sure it doesn't move around. Otherwise the blade will
grab it and jerk it around. It is like wrestling with a bear.

But with sharp blades and secure stock, the recip saw does a good job.

On Jan 19, 10:02=A0pm, "Dan Jefferson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> =A0I need to cut some steel rod.
>
> Should a hacksaw blade be placed in the saw so as it cuts on the push or =
pull stroke or is just the users choice ?

Use a jigsaw with a metal blade.

On 1/19/2010 7:15 PM Mike Marlow spake thus:

> "Dan Jefferson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> I need to cut some steel rod.
>
>> Should a hacksaw blade be placed in the saw so as it cuts on the push or
>> pull stroke or is just the users choice ?
>
> Whatever floats your boat. The better advice is to just let the saw do the
> work. Don't try to force it through the piece.

And squirt some oil on the blade while you're cutting.


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On 1/19/2010 9:19 PM Kerry Montgomery spake thus:

> And use the whole length of the blade, not just the center few inches.

Doh! So that's why I gots all those broken teeth in the middle!


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"David Nebenzahl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 1/19/2010 7:15 PM Mike Marlow spake thus:
>
>> "Dan Jefferson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> I need to cut some steel rod.
>>
>>> Should a hacksaw blade be placed in the saw so as it cuts on the push or
>>> pull stroke or is just the users choice ?
>>
>> Whatever floats your boat. The better advice is to just let the saw do
>> the work. Don't try to force it through the piece.
>
> And squirt some oil on the blade while you're cutting.
>
>
> --
> You were wrong, and I'm man enough to admit it.
>
> - a Usenet "apology"

And use the whole length of the blade, not just the center few inches.

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"Dan Jefferson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I need to cut some steel rod.

> Should a hacksaw blade be placed in the saw so as it cuts on the push or
> pull stroke or is just the users choice ?

Whatever floats your boat. The better advice is to just let the saw do the
work. Don't try to force it through the piece.

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-Mike-
[email protected]

On Jan 20, 10:22=A0am, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
> On Jan 19, 10:02 pm, "Dan Jefferson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I need to cut some steel rod.
>
> > Should a hacksaw blade be placed in the saw so as it cuts on the push o=
r
> > pull stroke or is just the users choice ?
>
> Use a jigsaw with a metal blade.
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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> Or a recip saw.

And a jigsaw doesn't reciprocate? Huh? HUH? H U H ?

:-)

I said

:-)


Ohhh.. I get it...a jigsaw goes up and down and a recip goes back and
forth.... LOL

Actually... a metal blade in a bandsaw works nice too...if the size
permits.

On Jan 19, 10:02=A0pm, "Dan Jefferson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> =A0I need to cut some steel rod.
>
> Should a hacksaw blade be placed in the saw so as it cuts on the push or =
pull stroke or is just the users choice ?

A pistol-grip hacksaw, with the handle above the blade, provides the
blade with downward pressure on the forward stroke and upward pressure
on the return. Just what you want with a blade in the normal
orientation - cutting on the forward stroke. If you reverse the blade
you'll have to add more pressure to get it to cut, and that can be
awkward.

With a hacksaw frame with a round straight handle, it's your choice.
Depending on how your cut is oriented, sometimes it is easier to cut
on the pull stroke.

When I'm using a bare saw blade in a tight place, I'll usually orient
it to cut on the pull stroke to avoid buckling.

John Martin

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:02:20 -0500, "Dan Jefferson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I need to cut some steel rod.
>
>Should a hacksaw blade be placed in the saw so as it cuts on the push or pull stroke or is just the users choice ?

and about 60 strokes per minute works better than 3000 strokes per
m.........

skeez

Lee Michaels wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> On Jan 19, 10:02 pm, "Dan Jefferson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need to cut some steel rod.
>>
>> Should a hacksaw blade be placed in the saw so as it cuts on the
>> push or pull stroke or is just the users choice ?
>
> Use a jigsaw with a metal blade.
> ==================
>
> Or a recip saw.

Strongly recommend the recip. A good jigsaw will do it but my old Bosch
died the death doing that--it's repairable but the part has to come from
Switzerland (it's an _old_ Bosch)and I didn't want to wait that long so I
got a new saw. Dunno if it's just a coincidence or not but I've been using
the recip saw for that sort of thing ever since.

Dan Jefferson wrote:
> I need to cut some steel rod.
>
> Should a hacksaw blade be placed in the saw so as it cuts on the push
> or pull stroke or is just the users choice ?

While conventionally you set it to cut on the push, it takes seconds to turn
it around, so try it both ways and see what works for _you_.

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:26:36 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Jan 20, 10:22 am, "Lee Michaels"
><leemichaels*[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>> On Jan 19, 10:02 pm, "Dan Jefferson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > I need to cut some steel rod.
>>
>> > Should a hacksaw blade be placed in the saw so as it cuts on the push or
>> > pull stroke or is just the users choice ?
>>
>> Use a jigsaw with a metal blade.
>> ==================
>>
>> Or a recip saw.
>
>And a jigsaw doesn't reciprocate? Huh? HUH? H U H ?
>
> :-)
>
>I said
>
>:-)
>
>
>Ohhh.. I get it...a jigsaw goes up and down and a recip goes back and
>forth.... LOL
>
>Actually... a metal blade in a bandsaw works nice too...if the size
>permits.
But the hacksaw takes only seconds per cut,oesn't need to be plugged
in or use batteries, and gives you a mild workout at the same time. If
you are cutting a dozen or so, use the power saw.