I assume that I need epoxy.
Some friends of my wife are making some crafts that involve gluing pieces of
thin metal, copper, aluminum, stainless steel, etc. to wood. Sometimes they
laminate several layers together for a certain kind of look. The wimpy glue
they sell in the craft store is not doing its job. They asked me if I had a
recommendation. My immediate response was to ask Lew!
The pieces are pretty things that will sit on a shelf. They don't need to
be handled. There would be no problem mixing anything up. Although,
something in a tube or can already to go, would be preferable. I am buying
a bunch of cheapo clamps for them at HF. I suspect that lack of clamping
force (or no clamps) was part of their problems.
Any suggestions anyone? Thanks,
Lee
On Mar 11, 10:31=A0am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net> wrote:
> I assume that I need epoxy.
>
> Some friends of my wife are making some crafts that involve gluing pieces=
of
> thin metal, copper, aluminum, stainless steel, etc. to wood. =A0Sometimes=
they
> laminate several layers together for a certain kind of look. The wimpy gl=
ue
> they sell in the craft store is not doing its job. They asked me if I had=
a
> recommendation. My immediate response was to ask Lew!
>
> The pieces are pretty things that will sit on a shelf. =A0They don't need=
to
> be handled. There would be no problem mixing anything up. =A0Although,
> something in a tube or can already to go, would be preferable. =A0I am bu=
ying
> a bunch of cheapo clamps for them at HF. =A0I suspect that lack of clampi=
ng
> force (or no clamps) was part of their problems.
>
> Any suggestions anyone? =A0Thanks,
>
> Lee
Superglue, 4 tubes for a buck at the dollar store. Pick
up a bottle of nail polish remover while you're there,
someone WILL end up gluing their fingers to their
craftspiece.
On Mar 11, 10:31=A0am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net> wrote:
> I assume that I need epoxy.
>
> Some friends of my wife are making some crafts that involve gluing pieces=
of
> thin metal, copper, aluminum, stainless steel, etc. to wood. =A0Sometimes=
they
> laminate several layers together for a certain kind of look. The wimpy gl=
ue
> they sell in the craft store is not doing its job. They asked me if I had=
a
> recommendation. My immediate response was to ask Lew!
>
> The pieces are pretty things that will sit on a shelf. =A0They don't need=
to
> be handled. There would be no problem mixing anything up. =A0Although,
> something in a tube or can already to go, would be preferable. =A0I am bu=
ying
> a bunch of cheapo clamps for them at HF. =A0I suspect that lack of clampi=
ng
> force (or no clamps) was part of their problems.
>
> Any suggestions anyone? =A0Thanks,
>
> Lee
In some situations clamping can starve a joint, especially when gluing
dissimilar materials.
Robatoy wrote:
>
> Water cleanup, transluscent glue-line,
> cheap.
> Sticks most things to most things... one side needs to be porous
> (wood?)
Ohferchristsake... Boogers! Stick to anything, removeable with a good
fingernail, and will take paint - as long as it's green.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:44:19 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mar 11, 11:30Â am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
>dot net> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" Â wrote
>>
>> > In some situations clamping can starve a joint, especially when gluing
>> > dissimilar materials.
>>
>> -------------------------------
>>
>> Not to worry. Â These are elderly ladies. I don't think they posses the hand
>> strength to "starve" a glue joint.
>>
>You haven't met my 89-year old mother..... developed strength milking
>her pet rhinoceros.
No wonder you're so odd, Toy. You were raised on homegrown
Canuckistani bananas and fresh squoze rhino milk...
--
Know how to listen, and you will
profit even from those who talk badly.
-- Plutarch
"Bill" wrote
> Lee Michaels wrote:
>> I assume that I need epoxy.
>>
>> Some friends of my wife are making some crafts that involve gluing
>> pieces of thin metal, copper, aluminum, stainless steel, etc. to wood.
>
> How about screwing a piece of flat metal (or other non-porous material) to
> the wood to give yourself more of a fighting chance?
>
> Bill
>
Not my project.
They have a certain way of doing things. The glue is the only problem. They
have everything else they need. Come up with a good glue, they are happy.
My wife is happy. This all goes away.
"Robatoy" wrote
>
> In some situations clamping can starve a joint, especially when gluing
> dissimilar materials.
-------------------------------
Not to worry. These are elderly ladies. I don't think they posses the hand
strength to "starve" a glue joint.
They wanted the clamps anyway.. But they thought that they were too
expensive.. I told them about Harbor Freight and the many sales they have.
This, they understand. Apparently craft stores have sales all the time. So
they are looking for the HF coupons now. I have to pick up some parts down
the street from a HF in the next week or so. So I will pick up the clamps
for them. The last time I was at HF, they had the little clamps they wanted
on sale.
"dpb" wrote
>
> Lew undoubtedly will have additional input; I'd think the dual-plunger
> kits from anywhere would be work. Makes the mixing pretty straightforward
> as they work reasonably well to dispense near-enough equal parts.
>
That may be just the ticket. I have seen those around, so they are
available. I wonder if the craft stores sell them?
> It'll be somewhat messy of course, so they'll have to deal w/ something to
> protect clamp surfaces, etc., or they'll glue them to the pieces as
> well... :)
>
Nitrile gloves would probably be a good idea as well. Some of them already
wear latex gloves.
<[email protected]> wrote
> "Lee Michaels" wrote:
>
>> Not my project.
>>
>> They have a certain way of doing things. The glue is the only problem.
>> They
>> have everything else they need. Come up with a good glue, they are happy.
>> My wife is happy. This all goes away.
>
> By Gawd there's the voice of experience!!!
>
> I laughed my ass off when I read that!
>
> "This allll goes away...."
>
> I feel, you buddy.
>
Yep, they consider me to be a tall, male problem solver/fixer. And my life
is better if I actually take care of some of these things.
"SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Liquid nails
I can just see it now.
A bunch of little old ladies and their caulking guns...
Father Haskell <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> Superglue, 4 tubes for a buck at the dollar store. Pick
> up a bottle of nail polish remover while you're there,
> someone WILL end up gluing their fingers to their
> craftspiece.
Make sure it's acetone based nail polish remover. Apparently there's some
stuff that doesn't contain the acetone out there...
Puckdropper
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> They probably don't need "a" good glue. Do the crafts live indoors or
> out? What temp ranges? Humidity ranges?
>
They just need a step up from the craft store glue. This stuff will just
sit on a shelf when done.
"Robatoy" wrote
>
> Here's the ticket:
>
> http://www.weldbond.com/weldbond_product_guide
>
> Water cleanup, transluscent glue-line,
> cheap.
> Sticks most things to most things... one side needs to be porous
> (wood?)
I like it.
It is cheap and universally available. I will get some for my wife and
everybody else can get there own. My life just got simpler.
You are pretty smart for a guy raised on rhino milk. (Did the rhino play in
the canals?)
"Matt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Have you considered a hot glue gun (craft store type or better) yet?
>
They have hot glue guns and insist that the adhesive does not work reliably
on the metal. O suggested that maybe they needed to go to a better hot
adhesive. But they don't want to go to anyplace but the craft store or a
local store.
On Mar 11, 11:30=A0am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net> wrote:
> "Robatoy" =A0wrote
>
> > In some situations clamping can starve a joint, especially when gluing
> > dissimilar materials.
>
> -------------------------------
>
> Not to worry. =A0These are elderly ladies. I don't think they posses the =
hand
> strength to "starve" a glue joint.
>
You haven't met my 89-year old mother..... developed strength milking
her pet rhinoceros.
On Mar 11, 10:24=A0am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net> wrote:
> Not my project.
>
> They have a certain way of doing things. The glue is the only problem. Th=
ey
> have everything else they need. Come up with a good glue, they are happy.
> My wife is happy. This all goes away.
By Gawd there's the voice of experience!!!
I laughed my ass off when I read that!
"This allll goes away...."
I feel, you buddy.
;^)
Robert
On Mar 12, 12:41=A0am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net> wrote:
> "Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> > They probably don't need "a" good glue. =A0Do the crafts live indoors o=
r
> > out? =A0What temp ranges? Humidity ranges?
>
> They just need a step up from the craft store glue. =A0This stuff will ju=
st
> sit on a shelf when done.
Here's the ticket:
http://www.weldbond.com/weldbond_product_guide
Water cleanup, transluscent glue-line,
cheap.
Sticks most things to most things... one side needs to be porous
(wood?)
On Mar 11, 11:50=A0am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net> wrote:
> "dpb" =A0wrote
>
> > Lew undoubtedly will have additional input; I'd think the dual-plunger
> > kits from anywhere would be work. =A0Makes the mixing pretty straightfo=
rward
> > as they work reasonably well to dispense near-enough equal parts.
>
> That may be just the ticket. I have seen those around, so they are
> available. =A0I wonder if the craft stores sell them?
>
> > It'll be somewhat messy of course, so they'll have to deal w/ something=
to
> > protect clamp surfaces, etc., or they'll glue them to the pieces as
> > well... :)
>
> Nitrile gloves would probably be a good idea as well. =A0Some of them alr=
eady
> wear latex gloves.
Rubbing alcohol removes uncured epoxy. Be SURE to
put the cap back on the syringe same way it came off,
any hardener left in the cap is enough to set the resin.
On Mar 11, 12:35=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net> wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote
>
>
>
> > "Lee Michaels" =A0wrote:
>
> >> Not my project.
>
> >> They have a certain way of doing things. The glue is the only problem.
> >> They
> >> have everything else they need. Come up with a good glue, they are hap=
py.
> >> My wife is happy. This all goes away.
>
> > By Gawd there's the voice of experience!!!
>
> > I laughed my ass off when I read that!
>
> > "This allll goes away...."
>
> > I feel, you buddy.
>
> Yep, they consider me to be a tall, male problem solver/fixer. =A0And my =
life
> is better if I actually take care of some of these things.
Then teach them to mix resorcinol-formaldehyde resin glue... excellent
for aircraft...and with all them bats around....wait.. I didn't really
say that...
Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> "dpb" wrote
>>
>> Lew undoubtedly will have additional input; I'd think the dual-plunger
>> kits from anywhere would be work. Makes the mixing pretty straightforward
>> as they work reasonably well to dispense near-enough equal parts.
>>
> That may be just the ticket. I have seen those around, so they are
> available. I wonder if the craft stores sell them?
>
>> It'll be somewhat messy of course, so they'll have to deal w/ something to
>> protect clamp surfaces, etc., or they'll glue them to the pieces as
>> well... :)
>>
> Nitrile gloves would probably be a good idea as well. Some of them already
> wear latex gloves.
>
Also a roll of waxed paper to protect the table and provide a
non-stick surface to place the objects.
--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA
Don't question authority, it doesn't
know either.
On Mar 11, 10:31=A0am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net> wrote:
>
> I assume that I need epoxy.
>
> Some friends of my wife are making some crafts that involve gluing pieces=
of
> thin metal, copper, aluminum, stainless steel, etc. to wood. =A0Sometimes=
they
> laminate several layers together for a certain kind of look. The wimpy gl=
ue
> they sell in the craft store is not doing its job. They asked me if I had=
a
> recommendation. My immediate response was to ask Lew!
>
> The pieces are pretty things that will sit on a shelf. =A0They don't need=
to
> be handled. There would be no problem mixing anything up. =A0Although,
> something in a tube or can already to go, would be preferable. =A0I am bu=
ying
> a bunch of cheapo clamps for them at HF. =A0I suspect that lack of clampi=
ng
> force (or no clamps) was part of their problems.
>
> Any suggestions anyone? =A0Thanks,
Contact cement, industrial strength double-stick tape or something
like 3M 5200/4200 if waiting for it to cure isn't a problem. Whatever
they use cleaning the metal is critical, so they should make it a
habit of wiping down the pieces with a degreaser and then alcohol.
R
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:24:24 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:
>
>
>"Bill" wrote
>> Lee Michaels wrote:
>>> I assume that I need epoxy.
>>>
>>> Some friends of my wife are making some crafts that involve gluing
>>> pieces of thin metal, copper, aluminum, stainless steel, etc. to wood.
>>
>> How about screwing a piece of flat metal (or other non-porous material) to
>> the wood to give yourself more of a fighting chance?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>Not my project.
>
>They have a certain way of doing things. The glue is the only problem. They
>have everything else they need. Come up with a good glue, they are happy.
>My wife is happy. This all goes away.
They probably don't need "a" good glue. Do the crafts live indoors or
out? What temp ranges? Humidity ranges?
--
Know how to listen, and you will
profit even from those who talk badly.
-- Plutarch
On 3/11/2011 10:31 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:
> I assume that I need epoxy.
>
> Some friends of my wife are making some crafts that involve gluing
> pieces of thin metal, copper, aluminum, stainless steel, etc. to wood.
How about screwing a piece of flat metal (or other non-porous material)
to the wood to give yourself more of a fighting chance?
Bill
> Sometimes they laminate several layers together for a certain kind of
> look. The wimpy glue they sell in the craft store is not doing its job.
> They asked me if I had a recommendation. My immediate response was to
> ask Lew!
>
> The pieces are pretty things that will sit on a shelf. They don't need
> to be handled. There would be no problem mixing anything up. Although,
> something in a tube or can already to go, would be preferable. I am
> buying a bunch of cheapo clamps for them at HF. I suspect that lack of
> clamping force (or no clamps) was part of their problems.
>
> Any suggestions anyone? Thanks,
>
> Lee
>
>
>
On 3/11/2011 9:31 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:
> I assume that I need epoxy.
>
> Some friends of my wife are making some crafts that involve gluing
> pieces of thin metal, copper, aluminum, stainless steel, etc. to wood.
> Sometimes they laminate several layers together for a certain kind of
> look. The wimpy glue they sell in the craft store is not doing its job.
> They asked me if I had a recommendation. My immediate response was to
> ask Lew!
>
> The pieces are pretty things that will sit on a shelf. They don't need
> to be handled. There would be no problem mixing anything up. Although,
> something in a tube or can already to go, would be preferable. I am
> buying a bunch of cheapo clamps for them at HF. I suspect that lack of
> clamping force (or no clamps) was part of their problems.
>
> Any suggestions anyone? Thanks,
Lew undoubtedly will have additional input; I'd think the dual-plunger
kits from anywhere would be work. Makes the mixing pretty
straightforward as they work reasonably well to dispense near-enough
equal parts.
It'll be somewhat messy of course, so they'll have to deal w/ something
to protect clamp surfaces, etc., or they'll glue them to the pieces as
well... :)
--
RicodJour wrote:
> On Mar 11, 10:31 am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
> dot net> wrote:
>>
>> I assume that I need epoxy.
>>
>> Some friends of my wife are making some crafts that involve gluing
>> pieces of thin metal, copper, aluminum, stainless steel, etc. to
>> wood. Sometimes they laminate several layers together for a certain
>> kind of look. The wimpy glue they sell in the craft store is not
>> doing its job. They asked me if I had a recommendation. My immediate
>> response was to ask Lew!
>>
>> The pieces are pretty things that will sit on a shelf. They don't
>> need to be handled. There would be no problem mixing anything up.
>> Although, something in a tube or can already to go, would be
>> preferable. I am buying a bunch of cheapo clamps for them at HF. I
>> suspect that lack of clamping force (or no clamps) was part of their
>> problems.
>>
>> Any suggestions anyone? Thanks,
>
> Contact cement, industrial strength double-stick tape or something
> like 3M 5200/4200 if waiting for it to cure isn't a problem. Whatever
> they use cleaning the metal is critical, so they should make it a
> habit of wiping down the pieces with a degreaser and then alcohol.
>
> R
a tube of ge silicone 2 from the borg in a caulking gun.
clamp and let sit for 24 hours.
Silicone caulk or any of the polyurethanes would do an excellent
job. GE makes a small size tube of silicone with a resealable top
that would work out well. The biggest problem will be not getting
it on the finish side of pieces.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DanG
Keep the whole world singing . . .
"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote in
message
news:[email protected]...
>I assume that I need epoxy.
>
> Some friends of my wife are making some crafts that involve
> gluing pieces of thin metal, copper, aluminum, stainless steel,
> etc. to wood. Sometimes they laminate several layers together
> for a certain kind of look. The wimpy glue they sell in the
> craft store is not doing its job. They asked me if I had a
> recommendation. My immediate response was to ask Lew!
>
> The pieces are pretty things that will sit on a shelf. They
> don't need to be handled. There would be no problem mixing
> anything up. Although, something in a tube or can already to
> go, would be preferable. I am buying a bunch of cheapo clamps
> for them at HF. I suspect that lack of clamping force (or no
> clamps) was part of their problems.
>
> Any suggestions anyone? Thanks,
>
> Lee
>
>
>
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:31:58 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote:
>I assume that I need epoxy.
>
>Some friends of my wife are making some crafts that involve gluing pieces of
>thin metal, copper, aluminum, stainless steel, etc. to wood. Sometimes they
>laminate several layers together for a certain kind of look. The wimpy glue
>they sell in the craft store is not doing its job. They asked me if I had a
>recommendation. My immediate response was to ask Lew!
>
>The pieces are pretty things that will sit on a shelf. They don't need to
>be handled. There would be no problem mixing anything up. Although,
>something in a tube or can already to go, would be preferable. I am buying
>a bunch of cheapo clamps for them at HF. I suspect that lack of clamping
>force (or no clamps) was part of their problems.
>
>Any suggestions anyone? Thanks,
This to that: http://www.thistothat.com/ Online glue advice.
Or maybe a book: http://tinyurl.com/4v2wez7
Or a Festering book: http://tinyurl.com/66r58ss
--
Know how to listen, and you will
profit even from those who talk badly.
-- Plutarch
"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net>
wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I assume that I need epoxy.
>
> Some friends of my wife are making some crafts that
> involve gluing pieces of thin metal, copper, aluminum,
> stainless steel, etc. to wood. Sometimes they laminate
> several layers together for a certain kind of look. The
> wimpy glue they sell in the craft store is not doing its
> job. They asked me if I had a recommendation. My immediate
> response was to ask Lew!
>
> The pieces are pretty things that will sit on a shelf.
> They don't need to be handled. There would be no problem
> mixing anything up. Although, something in a tube or can
> already to go, would be preferable. I am buying a bunch
> of cheapo clamps for them at HF. I suspect that lack of
> clamping force (or no clamps) was part of their problems.
>
> Any suggestions anyone? Thanks,
>
> Lee
>
>
>
LB:
You've had a roster of suggestions. I'll give you an
item to avoid: epoxy in 2-part dispensing syringes as sold
at
retail outlets. If you use it all at once, fine. But those
stored
syringes are famous for leaking in hot weather after their
first use.
Maybe infamous is a more apt word here as is the phrase
"leaking all over".
Also, the kind of glue line you are looking for would be one
criterion in evaluating your choices.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
Have you considered a hot glue gun (craft store type or better) yet?
"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I assume that I need epoxy.
>
> Some friends of my wife are making some crafts that involve gluing pieces
> of thin metal, copper, aluminum, stainless steel, etc. to wood. Sometimes
> they laminate several layers together for a certain kind of look. The
> wimpy glue they sell in the craft store is not doing its job. They asked
> me if I had a recommendation. My immediate response was to ask Lew!
>
> The pieces are pretty things that will sit on a shelf. They don't need to
> be handled. There would be no problem mixing anything up. Although,
> something in a tube or can already to go, would be preferable. I am
> buying a bunch of cheapo clamps for them at HF. I suspect that lack of
> clamping force (or no clamps) was part of their problems.
>
> Any suggestions anyone? Thanks,
>
> Lee
>
>
>
>