wB

[email protected] (Bill Graves)

19/10/2004 7:26 PM

finish for valuted pine ceiling

sorry for a beginners question but I am about to install a v-groove
t&g pine ceiling (approx 300 sq ft) in my bedroom and need advice
about how to finish it.

The wood is 1x6 yellow pine that was milled from 100 year old joists
removed from my ceiling as part of a remodel. I like to look of the
bare wood and want to keep it as natural as possible. Do I _need_ to
finish it with a poly or some type of oil? Would it be foolish to
leave the wood unfinished?

I am in central NC so there will be wide swings in humidity.

Any and all advice is appreciated.

Thanks

Bill

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sS

[email protected] (SteveC1280)

in reply to [email protected] (Bill Graves) on 19/10/2004 7:26 PM

20/10/2004 11:48 AM

IMHO you should finish with something, probably poly. My house has all
ceilings and exterior wall of T&G pine. I built the house 20 years ago and did
not finish the pine. I wish I had. The wood has all oxidized, picked up
stains from water and kitchen vapors. They are hard to clean because they just
absorb all the soapy water. I started to finish the walls recently (better
late than never) with shellac under water based poly (no vapors) and am happy
with the results. I've had to sand everything before finishing. A real PIA.
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Remove the 'remove' in my address to e:mail me.

Bb

BruceR

in reply to [email protected] (Bill Graves) on 19/10/2004 7:26 PM

20/10/2004 10:12 AM

Bill Graves wrote:
> sorry for a beginners question but I am about to install a v-groove
> t&g pine ceiling (approx 300 sq ft) in my bedroom and need advice
> about how to finish it.
>
> The wood is 1x6 yellow pine that was milled from 100 year old joists
> removed from my ceiling as part of a remodel. I like to look of the
> bare wood and want to keep it as natural as possible. Do I _need_ to
> finish it with a poly or some type of oil? Would it be foolish to
> leave the wood unfinished?
>
> I am in central NC so there will be wide swings in humidity.
>
> Any and all advice is appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill
>
> [email protected]
I installed about 500 ft^2 of T&G spruce on my ceiling. Humidity
swings are wide (wood stove heat in winter, swamp cooler in summer) and
no noticeable problems after about 4 years. Finish is sprayed on water
based poly. Very poor at being a good moisture barrier (use oil based
for that) but easy to apply and clean.

-Bruce



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jJ

[email protected] (Jim Johnson)

in reply to [email protected] (Bill Graves) on 19/10/2004 7:26 PM

20/10/2004 6:37 PM

My vote is for an amber or blonde shellac. It's very forgiving and
really brings the wood to life. Poly would be ok if you were going to
be walking on the ceiling, spraying it with a hose, subjecting it to
food fights, or some other sort or unspeakable abuse. Shellac is fine
for normal use. I am partial to orange shellac for interior trim.
You don't have to worry about mixing your own flake for a job like
this, buying it premixed in gallon cans is fine.

Good luck,

Jim

[email protected] (Bill Graves) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> sorry for a beginners question but I am about to install a v-groove
> t&g pine ceiling (approx 300 sq ft) in my bedroom and need advice
> about how to finish it.
>
> The wood is 1x6 yellow pine that was milled from 100 year old joists
> removed from my ceiling as part of a remodel. I like to look of the
> bare wood and want to keep it as natural as possible. Do I _need_ to
> finish it with a poly or some type of oil? Would it be foolish to
> leave the wood unfinished?
>
> I am in central NC so there will be wide swings in humidity.
>
> Any and all advice is appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill
>
> [email protected]

wS

in reply to [email protected] (Bill Graves) on 19/10/2004 7:26 PM

21/10/2004 4:16 PM

[email protected] (Bill Graves) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> sorry for a beginners question but I am about to install a v-groove
> t&g pine ceiling (approx 300 sq ft) in my bedroom and need advice
> about how to finish it.
>
> The wood is 1x6 yellow pine that was milled from 100 year old joists
> removed from my ceiling as part of a remodel. I like to look of the
> bare wood and want to keep it as natural as possible. Do I _need_ to
> finish it with a poly or some type of oil? Would it be foolish to
> leave the wood unfinished?
>
> I am in central NC so there will be wide swings in humidity.
>
> Any and all advice is appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill
>
> [email protected]

I put about 1000sf of planed pine barn siding in a pizza/tavern
ceiling.I used satin oil based poly.To begin with, if at all possible,
FINISH IT BEFORE YOU INSTALL IT. The procedure we used was to roll
both sides real fast and sloppy that left hundreds of bubbles which we
brushed out with a wide dustpan type brush. After that dried, the face
side had numerous raised grain, dust and dirt nubs(rolling and
brushing pulled junk out of the old cracks and nail holes). THAT was
taken care of with eighty grit (80) sandpaper, then the boards were
blown off and then vacumed, wiped down with min. spirits and a second
coat applied.

ER

"Eric Ryder"

in reply to [email protected] (Bill Graves) on 19/10/2004 7:26 PM

20/10/2004 8:50 AM


"Bill Graves" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> sorry for a beginners question but I am about to install a v-groove
> t&g pine ceiling (approx 300 sq ft) in my bedroom and need advice
> about how to finish it.
>
> The wood is 1x6 yellow pine that was milled from 100 year old joists
> removed from my ceiling as part of a remodel. I like to look of the
> bare wood and want to keep it as natural as possible. Do I _need_ to
> finish it with a poly or some type of oil? Would it be foolish to
> leave the wood unfinished?
>
> I am in central NC so there will be wide swings in humidity.
>
> Any and all advice is appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill
>
> [email protected]

Try some Waterlox on a sample. It's a decent compromise between protection
and appearance IMO.

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to [email protected] (Bill Graves) on 19/10/2004 7:26 PM

20/10/2004 2:50 PM

The "classic" finish for pine T&G was shellac, which goes
"yellow/amber" after a few years. I would shoot a few coats of
water based poly, which is crystal clear if you want to
maintain the "look".

SYP is gonna change colors anyway, so give it a little
protection from staining.

The poly will act as good seal when you decide to put
that coat of latex on it in a few years...



Bill Graves wrote:

> sorry for a beginners question but I am about to install a v-groove
> t&g pine ceiling (approx 300 sq ft) in my bedroom and need advice
> about how to finish it.
>
> The wood is 1x6 yellow pine that was milled from 100 year old joists
> removed from my ceiling as part of a remodel. I like to look of the
> bare wood and want to keep it as natural as possible. Do I _need_ to
> finish it with a poly or some type of oil? Would it be foolish to
> leave the wood unfinished?
>
> I am in central NC so there will be wide swings in humidity.
>
> Any and all advice is appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill
>
> [email protected]

Hu

HerHusband

in reply to [email protected] (Bill Graves) on 19/10/2004 7:26 PM

21/10/2004 2:59 PM

>> sorry for a beginners question but I am about to install a v-groove
>> t&g pine ceiling (approx 300 sq ft) in my bedroom and need advice
>> about how to finish it.
>>
>> The wood is 1x6 yellow pine that was milled from 100 year old joists
>> removed from my ceiling as part of a remodel. I like to look of the
>> bare wood and want to keep it as natural as possible. Do I _need_ to
>> finish it with a poly or some type of oil? Would it be foolish to
>> leave the wood unfinished?

We installed 1x6 T&G pine boards on the walls of our master suite. For ease
of cleaning, we applied a single coat of Olympic oil based satin poly. It
still "looks" natural, and the poly really enhanced the look of the pine.

For our ceilings we used 1x6 T&G cedar boards. We were originally going to
leave them unfinished, but when I wiped a bit of poly on a scrap it REALLY
brought out the color of the cedar. So, we put two coats of poly on the
ceilings.

The pine is light colored and looks fine with 1 coat of poly, but the
darker cedar looked really splotchy without the second coat.

Anthony

Rr

"RonB"

in reply to [email protected] (Bill Graves) on 19/10/2004 7:26 PM

20/10/2004 12:49 PM

You have several good suggestions. I would add one thing. If you are going
to stain, or use a tinted finish it might splotch. I would be worth your
time to wipe it down with a conditioner before finishing.


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