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woodchucker

08/06/2016 9:35 PM

On Topic. How to stretch a board.

I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it apart.
Appears to be really strong too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y


--
Jeff


This topic has 25 replies

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

10/06/2016 6:37 PM

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 9:03:12 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
> DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 7:15:17 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 6/10/2016 2:59 PM, Bill wrote:
> >>> DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 5:13:31 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
> >>>>> woodchucker wrote:
> >>>>>> On 6/8/2016 10:48 PM, Bill wrote:
> >>>>>>> Gordon Shumway wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
> >>>>>>>>> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it
> >>>>>>>>> apart.
> >>>>>>>>> Appears to be really strong too.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
> >>>>>>>> All this time I've been using my negative kerf blade.
> >>>>>>> That represents an interesting category of joinery. I find it hard to
> >>>>>>> praise something that is probably best cranked out by a cnc machine.
> >>>>>>> Thanks for sharing!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Bill
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> WHATTTTT????
> >>>>>> That makes no sense Bill
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Are you sure??? I thought it was remarkable engineering. I wonder if
> >>>>> the guy who made the joint could cut nice dovetails too?
> >>>> I was confused by your comment also.
> >>>>
> >>>> What did you mean by "I find it hard to praise something that is
> >>>> probably best cranked out by a cnc machine."?
> >>> That I found it more a feat of engineering than a feat of woodworking.
> >>> Nothing more...but my comment seems to have offended some. No offense
> >>> intended--honest!
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >> I don't find it offensive at all, but i do find it bewildering.
> >>
> >> My interpretation: That cabinet you made is nice, but Ikea has cabinets
> >> too. They use CNC machines, well programmed.
> >>
> >> We don't need no stinkin traditional skills.
> > That's kind of where I was at.
>
> Ed Pawlowski (sarcastically, I believe) well-captured much of my
> reaction. My soul was not as touched as it might be if I were looking
> at a nice piece of furniture. However, I'm sure the builder having the
> need for the long beam was very satisfied! I am not really "into"
> woodworking for its technological elements--in fact, probably just the
> opposite is true. It may sound strange to hear that I think I would
> rather go back in time with it--not forward in time with it, if that
> makes any sense. So the novel engineering joint struck me thus. YMMV.
> I think folks are over-thinking this! : )
>
> Bill

Wait! Am I in the wrong ng?

Isn't this rec.overthink-everything?

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

10/06/2016 11:29 AM

On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 5:13:31 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
> woodchucker wrote:
> > On 6/8/2016 10:48 PM, Bill wrote:
> >> Gordon Shumway wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
> >>>> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it
> >>>> apart.
> >>>> Appears to be really strong too.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
> >>> All this time I've been using my negative kerf blade.
> >>
> >> That represents an interesting category of joinery. I find it hard to
> >> praise something that is probably best cranked out by a cnc machine.
> >> Thanks for sharing!
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> > WHATTTTT????
> > That makes no sense Bill
> >
> Are you sure??? I thought it was remarkable engineering. I wonder if
> the guy who made the joint could cut nice dovetails too?

I was confused by your comment also.

What did you mean by "I find it hard to praise something that is
probably best cranked out by a cnc machine."?

Dt

DerbyDad03

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

10/06/2016 5:15 PM

On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 7:15:17 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/10/2016 2:59 PM, Bill wrote:
> > DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 5:13:31 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
> >>> woodchucker wrote:
> >>>> On 6/8/2016 10:48 PM, Bill wrote:
> >>>>> Gordon Shumway wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
> >>>>>>> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it
> >>>>>>> apart.
> >>>>>>> Appears to be really strong too.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
> >>>>>> All this time I've been using my negative kerf blade.
> >>>>> That represents an interesting category of joinery. I find it hard to
> >>>>> praise something that is probably best cranked out by a cnc machine.
> >>>>> Thanks for sharing!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bill
> >>>>>
> >>>> WHATTTTT????
> >>>> That makes no sense Bill
> >>>>
> >>> Are you sure??? I thought it was remarkable engineering. I wonder if
> >>> the guy who made the joint could cut nice dovetails too?
> >> I was confused by your comment also.
> >>
> >> What did you mean by "I find it hard to praise something that is
> >> probably best cranked out by a cnc machine."?
> >
> > That I found it more a feat of engineering than a feat of woodworking.
> > Nothing more...but my comment seems to have offended some. No offense
> > intended--honest!
> >
> > Bill
>
> I don't find it offensive at all, but i do find it bewildering.
>
> My interpretation: That cabinet you made is nice, but Ikea has cabinets
> too. They use CNC machines, well programmed.
>
> We don't need no stinkin traditional skills.

That's kind of where I was at.

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woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

09/06/2016 1:29 PM

On 6/8/2016 10:48 PM, Bill wrote:
> Gordon Shumway wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
>>> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it apart.
>>> Appears to be really strong too.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
>> All this time I've been using my negative kerf blade.
>
> That represents an interesting category of joinery. I find it hard to
> praise something that is probably best cranked out by a cnc machine (not
> that they used one). Thanks for sharing!
>
> Bill
>
WHATTTTT????
That makes no sense Bill

--
Jeff

GR

"G. Ross"

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

09/06/2016 9:50 AM

[email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 05:53:51 -0400, "G. Ross" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>woodchucker wrote:
>>> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
>>> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it apart.
>>> Appears to be really strong too.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
>>>
>>>
>>Looks like it did not fit as well on the left side of the joint. The
>>right side was beautiful.
> The left side "poor fit" was to allow dissassenbly by driving in a
> wedge, as clearly shown later in the video.
>
Now I see. It is not the surface but the deeper part of the assembly
that has a slot. Thanks.

--
GW Ross

Prozac, cause sometimes you feel like
a nut, sometimes you don't.





wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

10/06/2016 3:37 PM

On 6/10/2016 2:59 PM, Bill wrote:
> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 5:13:31 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
>>> woodchucker wrote:
>>>> On 6/8/2016 10:48 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>>> Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
>>>>>>> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it
>>>>>>> apart.
>>>>>>> Appears to be really strong too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
>>>>>> All this time I've been using my negative kerf blade.
>>>>> That represents an interesting category of joinery. I find it hard to
>>>>> praise something that is probably best cranked out by a cnc machine.
>>>>> Thanks for sharing!
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>> WHATTTTT????
>>>> That makes no sense Bill
>>>>
>>> Are you sure??? I thought it was remarkable engineering. I wonder if
>>> the guy who made the joint could cut nice dovetails too?
>> I was confused by your comment also.
>>
>> What did you mean by "I find it hard to praise something that is
>> probably best cranked out by a cnc machine."?
>
> That I found it more a feat of engineering than a feat of woodworking.
> Nothing more...but my comment seems to have offended some. No offense
> intended--honest!
>
> Bill

Quite the contrary. I have a book on joints(somewhere in the house) ,
many of which I could not make, and it goes back hundreds of years that
these joints have been made.
Many are no longer done, probably because of the skill required, and the
fact that we have other ways of doing things these days (steel bolts and
plates).

Some are quite exotic. The one in the video is simple, yet complex.

--
Jeff

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

11/06/2016 4:26 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> Bill <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > Ed Pawlowski (sarcastically, I believe) well-captured much of my
> > reaction. My soul was not as touched as it might be if I were looking
> > at a nice piece of furniture.
>
> That's fair. That joint was not a cabinetry joint, which is
> the subject we're mainly concerned with. It was a joint from
> the ship-building or timber-framing world. Interesting from
> an engineering standpoint, and interesting from a historical
> standpoint (as others noted, exceptionally complex joints
> were used in ship-building and timber-framing back to the
> 1300's), but not especially relevant to furniture.
>
> John


Who is this "we"? This isn't rec.fine-furniture-making.

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JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

12/06/2016 10:00 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
>
> >> That's fair. That joint was not a cabinetry joint, which is
> >> the subject we're mainly concerned with.
>
> > Who is this "we"? This isn't rec.fine-furniture-making.
>
> Ah, "we" is the participants in the wreck. Having watched
> it for a while now, cabinetry of one kind or another - how
> to do it, what tools to use, etc, etc - is the bulk of the
> on-topic discussion. Which isn't to say that other wood
> working topics aren't discussed (not to mention any number
> of off-topic topics). But furniture has been the core as
> far back as I can remember.

The "core" perhaps but hardly the totality.

However it's clear that you want to be netnanny and you need to get over
that because nobody likes a netnanny.

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

10/06/2016 7:15 PM

On 6/10/2016 2:59 PM, Bill wrote:
> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 5:13:31 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
>>> woodchucker wrote:
>>>> On 6/8/2016 10:48 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>>> Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
>>>>>>> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it
>>>>>>> apart.
>>>>>>> Appears to be really strong too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
>>>>>> All this time I've been using my negative kerf blade.
>>>>> That represents an interesting category of joinery. I find it hard to
>>>>> praise something that is probably best cranked out by a cnc machine.
>>>>> Thanks for sharing!
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>> WHATTTTT????
>>>> That makes no sense Bill
>>>>
>>> Are you sure??? I thought it was remarkable engineering. I wonder if
>>> the guy who made the joint could cut nice dovetails too?
>> I was confused by your comment also.
>>
>> What did you mean by "I find it hard to praise something that is
>> probably best cranked out by a cnc machine."?
>
> That I found it more a feat of engineering than a feat of woodworking.
> Nothing more...but my comment seems to have offended some. No offense
> intended--honest!
>
> Bill

I don't find it offensive at all, but i do find it bewildering.

My interpretation: That cabinet you made is nice, but Ikea has cabinets
too. They use CNC machines, well programmed.

We don't need no stinkin traditional skills.

JM

John McCoy

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

09/06/2016 1:51 AM

woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote in news:64udnb-6RKNRWsXKnZ2dnUU7-
[email protected]:

> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it apart.
> Appears to be really strong too.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y

It's a locking scarph joint. Joints like that were developed
to make keel timbers for wooden ships (think HMS Victory and
the like), so yeah, they are very strong. Some of them were
quite a bit more complex, too.

John

JM

John McCoy

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

09/06/2016 2:35 PM

Gordon Shumway <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
>>I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it apart.
>>Appears to be really strong too.
>>
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
>
> All this time I've been using my negative kerf blade.

Made, no doubt, with negative set.

John

JM

John McCoy

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

11/06/2016 3:32 PM

Bill <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Ed Pawlowski (sarcastically, I believe) well-captured much of my
> reaction. My soul was not as touched as it might be if I were looking
> at a nice piece of furniture.

That's fair. That joint was not a cabinetry joint, which is
the subject we're mainly concerned with. It was a joint from
the ship-building or timber-framing world. Interesting from
an engineering standpoint, and interesting from a historical
standpoint (as others noted, exceptionally complex joints
were used in ship-building and timber-framing back to the
1300's), but not especially relevant to furniture.

John

JM

John McCoy

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

13/06/2016 1:02 AM

"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...

>> That's fair. That joint was not a cabinetry joint, which is
>> the subject we're mainly concerned with.

> Who is this "we"? This isn't rec.fine-furniture-making.

Ah, "we" is the participants in the wreck. Having watched
it for a while now, cabinetry of one kind or another - how
to do it, what tools to use, etc, etc - is the bulk of the
on-topic discussion. Which isn't to say that other wood
working topics aren't discussed (not to mention any number
of off-topic topics). But furniture has been the core as
far back as I can remember.

John

Ll

Leon

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

09/06/2016 4:43 PM

On 6/9/2016 4:12 PM, Bill wrote:
> woodchucker wrote:
>> On 6/8/2016 10:48 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
>>>>> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it
>>>>> apart.
>>>>> Appears to be really strong too.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
>>>> All this time I've been using my negative kerf blade.
>>>
>>> That represents an interesting category of joinery. I find it hard to
>>> praise something that is probably best cranked out by a cnc machine.
>>> Thanks for sharing!
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>> WHATTTTT????
>> That makes no sense Bill
>>
> Are you sure??? I thought it was remarkable engineering. I wonder if
> the guy who made the joint could cut nice dovetails too?


Probably learned DT's while still in diapers.

GS

Gordon Shumway

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

08/06/2016 9:25 PM

On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:

>I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
>I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it apart.
>Appears to be really strong too.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y

All this time I've been using my negative kerf blade.

c

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

09/06/2016 8:13 AM

On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 05:53:51 -0400, "G. Ross" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>woodchucker wrote:
>> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
>> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it apart.
>> Appears to be really strong too.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
>>
>>
>Looks like it did not fit as well on the left side of the joint. The
>right side was beautiful.
The left side "poor fit" was to allow dissassenbly by driving in a
wedge, as clearly shown later in the video.

BB

Bill

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

08/06/2016 10:48 PM

Gordon Shumway wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
>> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it apart.
>> Appears to be really strong too.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
> All this time I've been using my negative kerf blade.

That represents an interesting category of joinery. I find it hard to
praise something that is probably best cranked out by a cnc machine (not
that they used one). Thanks for sharing!

Bill

EC

Electric Comet

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

08/06/2016 10:51 PM

On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400
woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it
> apart. Appears to be really strong too.

seems like they were fitting the final peg or at least that is what
i interpreted from watching it

saw a video where the architect wanted vast spans with no need for
load bearing posts in the room


it was in japan and the design included only joinery techniques with
no metal

he designed the joint in cad and it was so complex that it could only
be done by machine

the joints were curved but did something similar to these joints


all the master carpenters agreed that only a machine could provide the
precision required


the room was actually a music hall iirc








BB

Bill

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

09/06/2016 5:12 PM

woodchucker wrote:
> On 6/8/2016 10:48 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
>>>> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it
>>>> apart.
>>>> Appears to be really strong too.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
>>> All this time I've been using my negative kerf blade.
>>
>> That represents an interesting category of joinery. I find it hard to
>> praise something that is probably best cranked out by a cnc machine.
>> Thanks for sharing!
>>
>> Bill
>>
> WHATTTTT????
> That makes no sense Bill
>
Are you sure??? I thought it was remarkable engineering. I wonder if
the guy who made the joint could cut nice dovetails too?

BB

Bill

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

10/06/2016 2:59 PM

DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 5:13:31 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
>> woodchucker wrote:
>>> On 6/8/2016 10:48 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>> Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
>>>>>> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it
>>>>>> apart.
>>>>>> Appears to be really strong too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
>>>>> All this time I've been using my negative kerf blade.
>>>> That represents an interesting category of joinery. I find it hard to
>>>> praise something that is probably best cranked out by a cnc machine.
>>>> Thanks for sharing!
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>> WHATTTTT????
>>> That makes no sense Bill
>>>
>> Are you sure??? I thought it was remarkable engineering. I wonder if
>> the guy who made the joint could cut nice dovetails too?
> I was confused by your comment also.
>
> What did you mean by "I find it hard to praise something that is
> probably best cranked out by a cnc machine."?

That I found it more a feat of engineering than a feat of woodworking.
Nothing more...but my comment seems to have offended some. No offense
intended--honest!

Bill

BB

Bill

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

10/06/2016 5:27 PM

woodchucker wrote:
> On 6/10/2016 2:59 PM, Bill wrote:
>> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 5:13:31 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
>>>> woodchucker wrote:
>>>>> On 6/8/2016 10:48 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>>>> Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
>>>>>>>> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it
>>>>>>>> apart.
>>>>>>>> Appears to be really strong too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
>>>>>>> All this time I've been using my negative kerf blade.
>>>>>> That represents an interesting category of joinery. I find it
>>>>>> hard to
>>>>>> praise something that is probably best cranked out by a cnc machine.
>>>>>> Thanks for sharing!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>> WHATTTTT????
>>>>> That makes no sense Bill
>>>>>
>>>> Are you sure??? I thought it was remarkable engineering. I wonder if
>>>> the guy who made the joint could cut nice dovetails too?
>>> I was confused by your comment also.
>>>
>>> What did you mean by "I find it hard to praise something that is
>>> probably best cranked out by a cnc machine."?
>>
>> That I found it more a feat of engineering than a feat of woodworking.
>> Nothing more...but my comment seems to have offended some. No offense
>> intended--honest!
>>
>> Bill
>
> Quite the contrary. I have a book on joints(somewhere in the house) ,

I have two, one really old ("Woodworking Joints", by Fairham) and "The
Joint Book" by Terrie Noll. The latter has colored diagrams throughout
and that would be the one I would select if I could only have one of
these two. I see Amazon has some others too.

Bill


> many of which I could not make, and it goes back hundreds of years
> that these joints have been made.
> Many are no longer done, probably because of the skill required, and
> the fact that we have other ways of doing things these days (steel
> bolts and plates).
>
> Some are quite exotic. The one in the video is simple, yet complex.
>

BB

Bill

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

10/06/2016 9:01 PM

DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 7:15:17 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 6/10/2016 2:59 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 5:13:31 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
>>>>> woodchucker wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/8/2016 10:48 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>>>>> Gordon Shumway wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
>>>>>>>>> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it
>>>>>>>>> apart.
>>>>>>>>> Appears to be really strong too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
>>>>>>>> All this time I've been using my negative kerf blade.
>>>>>>> That represents an interesting category of joinery. I find it hard to
>>>>>>> praise something that is probably best cranked out by a cnc machine.
>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHATTTTT????
>>>>>> That makes no sense Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>> Are you sure??? I thought it was remarkable engineering. I wonder if
>>>>> the guy who made the joint could cut nice dovetails too?
>>>> I was confused by your comment also.
>>>>
>>>> What did you mean by "I find it hard to praise something that is
>>>> probably best cranked out by a cnc machine."?
>>> That I found it more a feat of engineering than a feat of woodworking.
>>> Nothing more...but my comment seems to have offended some. No offense
>>> intended--honest!
>>>
>>> Bill
>> I don't find it offensive at all, but i do find it bewildering.
>>
>> My interpretation: That cabinet you made is nice, but Ikea has cabinets
>> too. They use CNC machines, well programmed.
>>
>> We don't need no stinkin traditional skills.
> That's kind of where I was at.

Ed Pawlowski (sarcastically, I believe) well-captured much of my
reaction. My soul was not as touched as it might be if I were looking
at a nice piece of furniture. However, I'm sure the builder having the
need for the long beam was very satisfied! I am not really "into"
woodworking for its technological elements--in fact, probably just the
opposite is true. It may sound strange to hear that I think I would
rather go back in time with it--not forward in time with it, if that
makes any sense. So the novel engineering joint struck me thus. YMMV.
I think folks are over-thinking this! : )

Bill

BB

Bill

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

12/06/2016 10:12 PM

J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> [email protected] says...
>>>> That's fair. That joint was not a cabinetry joint, which is
>>>> the subject we're mainly concerned with.
>>> Who is this "we"? This isn't rec.fine-furniture-making.
>> Ah, "we" is the participants in the wreck. Having watched
>> it for a while now, cabinetry of one kind or another - how
>> to do it, what tools to use, etc, etc - is the bulk of the
>> on-topic discussion. Which isn't to say that other wood
>> working topics aren't discussed (not to mention any number
>> of off-topic topics). But furniture has been the core as
>> far back as I can remember.
> The "core" perhaps but hardly the totality.
>
> However it's clear that you want to be netnanny and you need to get over
> that because nobody likes a netnanny.

I think you owe everyone who read your post an apology.

kk

krw

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

09/06/2016 10:16 PM

On Wed, 08 Jun 2016 21:25:44 -0500, Gordon Shumway
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:35:06 -0400, woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
>>I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it apart.
>>Appears to be really strong too.
>>
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
>
>All this time I've been using my negative kerf blade.

That's the tool you need when you've cut the board twice and it's
still too short.

GR

"G. Ross"

in reply to woodchucker on 08/06/2016 9:35 PM

09/06/2016 5:53 AM

woodchucker wrote:
> I have seen this joint (or one similar) before.
> I thought it was cool to see how they put it together and take it apart.
> Appears to be really strong too.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NYqAGvgM2Y
>
>
Looks like it did not fit as well on the left side of the joint. The
right side was beautiful.

--
GW Ross

Prozac, cause sometimes you feel like
a nut, sometimes you don't.






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