The AP Tweet account get hacked, a phony tweet is sent before
it is found and a correction can be issued in less than 10 minutes.
Meanwhile, the DOW JONES stock average has drops almost
20 points on the "bad news" before recovering with news of the
correction.
And some people think they will be able protect their homes
with their guns but mean while their pockets are getting picked
clean by offshore interests.
You betcha, bring on those AR-15's and 30 round clips.
Lew
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:40:17 -0500, "ChairMan" <[email protected]>
>All true, but I will last longer than you and Lou.
>Plus, I'll take a few of MFers with me.
>Again, what are you and Lou going to do?
>Just roll over?
Well, people in my position wouldn't last very long anyway, whether
there were looters on the doorstep or not. I consider myself a fighter
by nature, but having a gun available in the case of serious anarchy,
I'd probably be thinking about when it was a good time to kill myself.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The AP Tweet account get hacked, a phony tweet is sent before
> it is found and a correction can be issued in less than 10 minutes.
>
> Meanwhile, the DOW JONES stock average has drops almost
> 20 points on the "bad news" before recovering with news of the
> correction.
>
The thing about financial markets is that they already super respond to ANY
kind of news. Anywhere in the world. Markets are always jittery. Brokers
and traders are jittery. That is the nature of the beast. With modern
electronic communications, this only increases the speed and intensity of
the response.
It was interesting how various "media" were coming out with "reports" of
impending doom because of this little incident. The market "crashed" and
"recovered" in about ten minutes. When is the last time you heard about a
complete market recovery occurring in ten minutes? Yes, the digital media
caused this little "crash". And just as quickly the digital media cause
this "correction". Talk about a non event. And talk about about a bunch of
hysterical media scum crating monsters out of nothing.
Wake me up when something interesting happens.
<rolls, over and goes back to sleep>
"ChairMan" wrote:
>My AR wil come in handy when bleedin heart libs such as yourself that
>haven't prepared, come to my house to get my food and loot for
>whatever you
>think you need.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Get back to me after you have lost all of your utilities for about 2
weeks.
Lew
"woodchucker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 4/24/2013 8:42 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> The AP Tweet account get hacked, a phony tweet is sent before
>>> it is found and a correction can be issued in less than 10 minutes.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, the DOW JONES stock average has drops almost
>>> 20 points on the "bad news" before recovering with news of the
>>> correction.
>>>
>> The thing about financial markets is that they already super respond to
>> ANY kind of news. Anywhere in the world. Markets are always jittery.
>> Brokers and traders are jittery. That is the nature of the beast. With
>> modern electronic communications, this only increases the speed and
>> intensity of the response.
>>
>> It was interesting how various "media" were coming out with "reports" of
>> impending doom because of this little incident. The market "crashed"
>> and "recovered" in about ten minutes. When is the last time you heard
>> about a complete market recovery occurring in ten minutes? Yes, the
>> digital media caused this little "crash". And just as quickly the
>> digital media cause this "correction". Talk about a non event. And
>> talk about about a bunch of hysterical media scum crating monsters out
>> of nothing.
>>
>> Wake me up when something interesting happens.
>>
>> <rolls, over and goes back to sleep>
>>
>>
>>
> Oh no, this was not a non event.
> If you happen to be in a fund where they sold off, you might have been
> lost a bunch of money, then recovered it back, but at a slightly higher
> price... it depends. The machines can react fast, but not in reverse of
> the order and price... Some people lost, some made out.
>
Part of my job is to work with computers and software that actually monitor
the financial markets. Mostly for research and information services. I
look at the markets every day. I can tell you that if a head of state
somewhere gets a cold, it shows up in the markets. Almost every day (except
Mondays) there are economic reports. At least a quarter of these economic
reports affect market prices measurably. Every time a major company exceeds
or doesn't make a projected profit for the quarter, it affects market
prices. Every thing from European governments and banks to Chinese
manufacturing production affect market prices.
There are financial news junkies. Every time they get any news of any kind,
they affect market prices. One of the big things among active traders is to
notice when a market moves takes place and try and figure out why. At 2:00
EST the S&P 500 jumped 8 points. Then they go looking on all the news
channels to figure out what happened. Every little thing affects market
prices. Most mornings at 8:30 EST, there is a report or two. The market
can just yawn or jump up or down. Since most folks do not trade before 9:30
EST, it can greatly affect a position in the markets. And the European
market can really drive prices, even though their volume is far beneath the
US markets.
Market prices are driven by a lot of different things. Most of the time,
the driving forces are not that exotic. The most important thing is how
people feel, or react. Rumor and paranoia reigns supreme. A standard maxim
for the markets is that all trades are driven by fear or greed. That is not
far off. It is emotional and reactive. It doesn't take much to set off a
run up or down. And it can occur at any time. As someone who works with
this sort of thing, I can assure you that a ten minute, self correcting
event has far less effect than events that occur almost every day.
One of the big complaints, by market insiders, is that the media is always
trying to scare people. And since people are directly involved in buying
and selling of securities, they get scared and the markets get volatile. A
whole lot of market destabilizations comes from these fear mongers. As most
intelligent people know, the media is absolute scum who will do anything for
a story. And are not remotely concerned about the negative impacts of their
BS. When you get right down to it, this event proves the market did it
right. The big move down only took 2 or three minutes. 3 or 4 minutes
later, it mostly recovered. 10 minutes later, every thing was normal again.
Because the original event was a hoax.
How many other things in life resolve themselves in 10 minutes? From a
market perspective this was a non event. From the outside looking in, not
understanding how financial markets work, this may seem like a horrible
event. I was out of the room fixing myself some lunch when it happened. I
came in with my sandwich and said to myself, "What happened?" I went online
to check it out. 10 - 15 minutes later, it was every where. AP's twitter
was hacked. Google use went up big time right then.
Remember, all markets are news driven. Even if the news isn't true. It all
balances out. That is the nature of all markets. Environmental influences,
supply and demand, etc. all affect prices. That is why so many folks who
work in the financial markets are news junkies. I am not much of a news
junkie since I mostly work with the hardware and software. It was an
interesting thing for me to look up when eating a sandwich. And regardless
of the many chicken little "reports", it was a non event.
>My AR wil come in handy when bleedin heart libs such as yourself that
>haven't prepared, come to my house to get my food and loot for
>whatever you
>think you need.
-------------------------------------------------------------
> Get back to me after you have lost all of your utilities for about 2
> weeks.
-------------------------------------------------------------
"ChairMan" wrote:
> I'm good for a least that much time if not longer.
> A 7000 w diesel generator helps a bunch
> How bout you, Lou?
> What have you done to prepare for what you think is going to happen?
> I know you don't have a gun, so whatcha going to do?
-------------------------------------------------------------
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
Let's see now, you have a 7000 w diesel generator that consumes
say 1 gallon/hr and operates at least 80-90 dB.
Better have a big fuel storage tank since none of the gas stations
will be able to get fuel out of their tanks because the pumps and
computers don't have power.
Won't make much difference since none of the ATMs will be operating
along with credit cards so you wouldn't be able to get cash buy fuel
anyway.
Won't make much difference anyway since after listening to that
generator
for about a week, somebody in the neighborhood is going to grab their
AR 15 and use it for target practice.
(SFWIW, used a contractor generator 50 hours/week for a year. Once
was enough.)
Since the city water supply may be contaminated and not working,
how much bottled water do you keep on hand?
Hope you have a big swimming pool for the toilets, since the city
water
system will not be working.
If not, it's port-a-potty time.
You might be "lucky" and have a septic tank.
Not on city water, better make sure your well isn't contaminated.
Guess that Winchester Model 12 in the corner doesn't qualify as a
firearm these days.
Haven't used it in 50 years, but it is still operational.
What am I going to do?
For openers, I'm not going to waste my time teaching you how
to spell.
After that, not going to be paranoid about something that is never
going to happen.
It is the function of government to provide security, not a rag tag
bunch
of gun toting whackos.
"Hi-HoH Silver, away is still in reruns someplace.
It makes for great nostalgia, but little else.
Lew
-------------------------------------------------------------
"ChairMan" wrote:
> Depends where the property is.
> On 200 acres, I'm not too worried though.
> Besides, all you libs will be looting the cities first and killing
> each other off long before you get to me.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Made a post before seeing this.
You're right, who the hell cares about 40 miles South West of BumFuck?
Lay a couple of rounds over the bow ever couple of days and you will
insure that anybody on the property will keep their heads down.
Lew
"Richard" wrote:
> oh hell, why not?
>
> If you have not done so - yet - I would strongly advise
> that you stock as much toilet paper and tampons as you do
> beans and bullets.
>
> The alternative is not something you want to consider.
>
> Women are resilient creatures and can withstand very
> difficult circumstances. But if you don't have toilet
> paper, you are not civilized. And if you don't have
> tampons, you are going to cook and clean for yourself...
>
> Promise.
-------------------------------------------------------
You're trying to tell us the old bag of red corn cobs and
a bag of white corn cobs isn't going to cut it anymore.
Chic Sale will roll over in his grave.
Lew
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:23:58 -0500, "ChairMan" <[email protected]>
>>I'm good for a least that much time if not longer.
>>A 7000 w diesel generator helps a bunch
>>How bout you, Lou?
>>What have you done to prepare for what you think is going to happen?
>>I know you don't have a gun, so whatcha going to do?
>
> Right. Have you ever heard the statement, "There always a bigger
> fish out there"? The noise of your diesel generator, if you really
> have one, would attract all sorts of unwanted attention to your
> property.
Depends where the property is.
On 200 acres, I'm not too worried though.
Besides, all you libs will be looting the cities first and killing each
other off long before you get to me.
>
> Do you actually believe that you and your litte arsenal of weapons
> could hold off a concerted attack if it came? You might be fine with
> the occasional one or two people coming around, but if an organized
> group of people wanted what you have, you're deluded in thinking you
> could stop them from taking it.
All true, but I will last longer than you and Lou.
Plus, I'll take a few of MFers with me.
Again, what are you and Lou going to do?
Just roll over?
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 01:18:08 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
>And some people think they will be able protect their homes
>with their guns but mean while their pockets are getting picked
>clean by offshore interests.
>
>You betcha, bring on those AR-15's and 30 round clips.
Solution. We all get our AR-15's with 30 round clips and shoot the
stockbrokers so they can't sell of stock.
"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 4/24/2013 4:09 PM, ChairMan wrote:
>> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> The AP Tweet account get hacked, a phony tweet is sent before
>>> it is found and a correction can be issued in less than 10 minutes.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, the DOW JONES stock average has drops almost
>>> 20 points on the "bad news" before recovering with news of the
>>> correction.
>>>
>>> And some people think they will be able protect their homes
>>> with their guns but mean while their pockets are getting picked
>>> clean by offshore interests.
>>>
>>> You betcha, bring on those AR-15's and 30 round clips.
>>>
>>> Lew
>>>
>>>
>>
>> My AR wil come in handy when bleedin heart libs such as yourself that
>> haven't prepared, come to my house to get my food and loot for whatever
>> you
>> think you need.
>> Good luck to you
>>
>>
>
>
> There you go! LOL After getting through your first sentence I realized
> that you were not talking about "being" AR. ;~0
If what lou thinks happens, I doubt he or any other lib will be around very
long and Texas will be the last state they try to loot<g>
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> "ChairMan" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> The AP Tweet account get hacked, a phony tweet is sent before
>> it is found and a correction can be issued in less than 10 minutes.
>>
>> Meanwhile, the DOW JONES stock average has drops almost
>> 20 points on the "bad news" before recovering with news of the
>> correction.
>>
>> And some people think they will be able protect their homes
>> with their guns but mean while their pockets are getting picked
>> clean by offshore interests.
>>
>> You betcha, bring on those AR-15's and 30 round clips.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>
> My AR wil come in handy when bleedin heart libs such as yourself that
> haven't prepared, come to my house to get my food and loot for whatever
> you
> think you need.
> Good luck to you
> ============================================================================
> No problem. If SHTF, liberals have that covered. They just call the
> police.
good luck to 'em. they'll find out first hand that cops carry to protect
themselves not you
phorbin wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 01:18:08 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
>>> And some people think they will be able protect their homes
>>> with their guns but mean while their pockets are getting picked
>>> clean by offshore interests.
>>>
>>> You betcha, bring on those AR-15's and 30 round clips.
>>
>> Solution. We all get our AR-15's with 30 round clips and shoot the
>> stockbrokers so they can't sell of stock.
>>
>
> And then the bottoms fall out of the market.
Who cares?
With enough AR-15s - and enough ammunition - all other things can be easily
obtained.
"ChairMan" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The AP Tweet account get hacked, a phony tweet is sent before
> it is found and a correction can be issued in less than 10 minutes.
>
> Meanwhile, the DOW JONES stock average has drops almost
> 20 points on the "bad news" before recovering with news of the
> correction.
>
> And some people think they will be able protect their homes
> with their guns but mean while their pockets are getting picked
> clean by offshore interests.
>
> You betcha, bring on those AR-15's and 30 round clips.
>
> Lew
>
>
My AR wil come in handy when bleedin heart libs such as yourself that
haven't prepared, come to my house to get my food and loot for whatever you
think you need.
Good luck to you
============================================================================
No problem. If SHTF, liberals have that covered. They just call the police.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 01:18:08 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
> >And some people think they will be able protect their homes
> >with their guns but mean while their pockets are getting picked
> >clean by offshore interests.
> >
> >You betcha, bring on those AR-15's and 30 round clips.
>
> Solution. We all get our AR-15's with 30 round clips and shoot the
> stockbrokers so they can't sell of stock.
>
And then the bottoms fall out of the market.
On 4/24/2013 6:04 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "ChairMan" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> The AP Tweet account get hacked, a phony tweet is sent before
>> it is found and a correction can be issued in less than 10 minutes.
>>
>> Meanwhile, the DOW JONES stock average has drops almost
>> 20 points on the "bad news" before recovering with news of the
>> correction.
>>
>> And some people think they will be able protect their homes
>> with their guns but mean while their pockets are getting picked
>> clean by offshore interests.
>>
>> You betcha, bring on those AR-15's and 30 round clips.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>
> My AR wil come in handy when bleedin heart libs such as yourself that
> haven't prepared, come to my house to get my food and loot for whatever you
> think you need.
> Good luck to you
> ============================================================================
>
> No problem. If SHTF, liberals have that covered. They just call the police.
If it eventually comes to it, the police will be busy protecting what
they own too. It will be every man for themselves.
On 4/24/2013 4:09 PM, ChairMan wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> The AP Tweet account get hacked, a phony tweet is sent before
>> it is found and a correction can be issued in less than 10 minutes.
>>
>> Meanwhile, the DOW JONES stock average has drops almost
>> 20 points on the "bad news" before recovering with news of the
>> correction.
>>
>> And some people think they will be able protect their homes
>> with their guns but mean while their pockets are getting picked
>> clean by offshore interests.
>>
>> You betcha, bring on those AR-15's and 30 round clips.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>
> My AR wil come in handy when bleedin heart libs such as yourself that
> haven't prepared, come to my house to get my food and loot for whatever you
> think you need.
> Good luck to you
>
>
There you go! LOL After getting through your first sentence I realized
that you were not talking about "being" AR. ;~0
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The AP Tweet account get hacked, a phony tweet is sent before
> it is found and a correction can be issued in less than 10 minutes.
>
> Meanwhile, the DOW JONES stock average has drops almost
> 20 points on the "bad news" before recovering with news of the
> correction.
>
> And some people think they will be able protect their homes
> with their guns but mean while their pockets are getting picked
> clean by offshore interests.
>
> You betcha, bring on those AR-15's and 30 round clips.
>
> Lew
>
>
My AR wil come in handy when bleedin heart libs such as yourself that
haven't prepared, come to my house to get my food and loot for whatever you
think you need.
Good luck to you
On 4/24/2013 4:33 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 01:18:08 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
>> And some people think they will be able protect their homes
>> with their guns but mean while their pockets are getting picked
>> clean by offshore interests.
>>
>> You betcha, bring on those AR-15's and 30 round clips.
>
> Solution. We all get our AR-15's with 30 round clips and shoot the
> stockbrokers so they can't sell of stock.
>
I'm game.. we have to shoot the computers too since they did the trading.
A regular person barely has a chance these days.
Not at work, not at home, not with taxes, not with our Stupid congress
men and woman who pick our bank accounts daily.
We the middle class, are doomed.
--
Jeff
On 4/24/2013 8:42 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> The AP Tweet account get hacked, a phony tweet is sent before
>> it is found and a correction can be issued in less than 10 minutes.
>>
>> Meanwhile, the DOW JONES stock average has drops almost
>> 20 points on the "bad news" before recovering with news of the
>> correction.
>>
> The thing about financial markets is that they already super respond to
> ANY kind of news. Anywhere in the world. Markets are always jittery.
> Brokers and traders are jittery. That is the nature of the beast. With
> modern electronic communications, this only increases the speed and
> intensity of the response.
>
> It was interesting how various "media" were coming out with "reports" of
> impending doom because of this little incident. The market "crashed"
> and "recovered" in about ten minutes. When is the last time you heard
> about a complete market recovery occurring in ten minutes? Yes, the
> digital media caused this little "crash". And just as quickly the
> digital media cause this "correction". Talk about a non event. And
> talk about about a bunch of hysterical media scum crating monsters out
> of nothing.
>
> Wake me up when something interesting happens.
>
> <rolls, over and goes back to sleep>
>
>
>
Oh no, this was not a non event.
If you happen to be in a fund where they sold off, you might have been
lost a bunch of money, then recovered it back, but at a slightly higher
price... it depends. The machines can react fast, but not in reverse of
the order and price... Some people lost, some made out.
--
Jeff
oh hell, why not?
If you have not done so - yet - I would strongly advise
that you stock as much toilet paper and tampons as you do
beans and bullets.
The alternative is not something you want to consider.
Women are resilient creatures and can withstand very
difficult circumstances. But if you don't have toilet
paper, you are not civilized. And if you don't have
tampons, you are going to cook and clean for yourself...
Promise.
"Leon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 4/24/2013 6:04 PM, CW wrote:
>
>
> "ChairMan" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> The AP Tweet account get hacked, a phony tweet is sent before
>> it is found and a correction can be issued in less than 10 minutes.
>>
>> Meanwhile, the DOW JONES stock average has drops almost
>> 20 points on the "bad news" before recovering with news of the
>> correction.
>>
>> And some people think they will be able protect their homes
>> with their guns but mean while their pockets are getting picked
>> clean by offshore interests.
>>
>> You betcha, bring on those AR-15's and 30 round clips.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>
> My AR wil come in handy when bleedin heart libs such as yourself that
> haven't prepared, come to my house to get my food and loot for whatever
> you
> think you need.
> Good luck to you
> ============================================================================
>
> No problem. If SHTF, liberals have that covered. They just call the
> police.
If it eventually comes to it, the police will be busy protecting what
they own too. It will be every man for themselves.
==============================================================================
True and it isn't their job to protect you either. There are millions out
there that seem to think otherwise.
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:09:10 -0500, "ChairMan" <[email protected]>
>My AR wil come in handy when bleedin heart libs such as yourself that
>haven't prepared, come to my house to get my food and loot for whatever you
>think you need.
Yeah, but now that I know you have an AR, I'll come prepared with a
Fusil Automatique Legere and cut you to shreds for your food.
Good luck to you.
Thanks, Lee. Very interesting and informative piece you provided.
Appreciate you taking the time...
Richard
On 4/24/2013 10:00 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>> Oh no, this was not a non event.
>> If you happen to be in a fund where they sold off, you might have been
>> lost a bunch of money, then recovered it back, but at a slightly
>> higher price... it depends. The machines can react fast, but not in
>> reverse of the order and price... Some people lost, some made out.
>>
> Part of my job is to work with computers and software that actually
> monitor the financial markets. Mostly for research and information
> services. I look at the markets every day. I can tell you that if a head
> of state somewhere gets a cold, it shows up in the markets. Almost every
> day (except Mondays) there are economic reports. At least a quarter of
> these economic reports affect market prices measurably. Every time a
> major company exceeds or doesn't make a projected profit for the
> quarter, it affects market prices. Every thing from European governments
> and banks to Chinese manufacturing production affect market prices.
>
> There are financial news junkies. Every time they get any news of any
> kind, they affect market prices. One of the big things among active
> traders is to notice when a market moves takes place and try and figure
> out why. At 2:00 EST the S&P 500 jumped 8 points. Then they go looking
> on all the news channels to figure out what happened. Every little thing
> affects market prices. Most mornings at 8:30 EST, there is a report or
> two. The market can just yawn or jump up or down. Since most folks do
> not trade before 9:30 EST, it can greatly affect a position in the
> markets. And the European market can really drive prices, even though
> their volume is far beneath the US markets.
>
> Market prices are driven by a lot of different things. Most of the time,
> the driving forces are not that exotic. The most important thing is how
> people feel, or react. Rumor and paranoia reigns supreme. A standard
> maxim for the markets is that all trades are driven by fear or greed.
> That is not far off. It is emotional and reactive. It doesn't take much
> to set off a run up or down. And it can occur at any time. As someone
> who works with this sort of thing, I can assure you that a ten minute,
> self correcting event has far less effect than events that occur almost
> every day.
>
> One of the big complaints, by market insiders, is that the media is
> always trying to scare people. And since people are directly involved in
> buying and selling of securities, they get scared and the markets get
> volatile. A whole lot of market destabilizations comes from these fear
> mongers. As most intelligent people know, the media is absolute scum who
> will do anything for a story. And are not remotely concerned about the
> negative impacts of their BS. When you get right down to it, this event
> proves the market did it right. The big move down only took 2 or three
> minutes. 3 or 4 minutes later, it mostly recovered. 10 minutes later,
> every thing was normal again. Because the original event was a hoax.
>
> How many other things in life resolve themselves in 10 minutes? From a
> market perspective this was a non event. From the outside looking in,
> not understanding how financial markets work, this may seem like a
> horrible event. I was out of the room fixing myself some lunch when it
> happened. I came in with my sandwich and said to myself, "What
> happened?" I went online to check it out. 10 - 15 minutes later, it was
> every where. AP's twitter was hacked. Google use went up big time right
> then.
>
> Remember, all markets are news driven. Even if the news isn't true. It
> all balances out. That is the nature of all markets. Environmental
> influences, supply and demand, etc. all affect prices. That is why so
> many folks who work in the financial markets are news junkies. I am not
> much of a news junkie since I mostly work with the hardware and
> software. It was an interesting thing for me to look up when eating a
> sandwich. And regardless of the many chicken little "reports", it was a
> non event.
>
>
>
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:23:58 -0500, "ChairMan" <[email protected]>
>I'm good for a least that much time if not longer.
>A 7000 w diesel generator helps a bunch
>How bout you, Lou?
>What have you done to prepare for what you think is going to happen?
>I know you don't have a gun, so whatcha going to do?
Right. Have you ever heard the statement, "There's always a bigger
fish out there"? The noise of your diesel generator, if you really
have one, would attract all sorts of unwanted attention to your
property.
Do you actually believe that you and your litte arsenal of weapons
could hold off a concerted attack if it came? You might be fine with
the occasional one or two people coming around, but if an organized
group of people wanted what you have, you're deluded in thinking you
could stop them from taking it.
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 01:18:08 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>The AP Tweet account get hacked, a phony tweet is sent before
>it is found and a correction can be issued in less than 10 minutes.
>
>Meanwhile, the DOW JONES stock average has drops almost
>20 points on the "bad news" before recovering with news of the
>correction.
>
>And some people think they will be able protect their homes
>with their guns but mean while their pockets are getting picked
>clean by offshore interests.
>
>You betcha, bring on those AR-15's and 30 round clips.
>
>Lew
>
>
>
You are so predictable. I expected nothing less than a liberal
response from you.
On 4/24/2013 7:42 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> The AP Tweet account get hacked, a phony tweet is sent before
>> it is found and a correction can be issued in less than 10 minutes.
>>
>> Meanwhile, the DOW JONES stock average has drops almost
>> 20 points on the "bad news" before recovering with news of the
>> correction.
>>
> The thing about financial markets is that they already super respond to
> ANY kind of news. Anywhere in the world. Markets are always jittery.
> Brokers and traders are jittery. That is the nature of the beast. With
> modern electronic communications, this only increases the speed and
> intensity of the response.
>
> It was interesting how various "media" were coming out with "reports" of
> impending doom because of this little incident. The market "crashed"
> and "recovered" in about ten minutes. When is the last time you heard
> about a complete market recovery occurring in ten minutes? Yes, the
> digital media caused this little "crash". And just as quickly the
> digital media cause this "correction". Talk about a non event. And
> talk about about a bunch of hysterical media scum crating monsters out
> of nothing.
>
> Wake me up when something interesting happens.
>
> <rolls, over and goes back to sleep>
>
>
>
Exactly, and had the market gone much lower it would have closed
automatically giving time to determine the reason.
In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:23:58 -0500, "ChairMan" <[email protected]>
>>I'm good for a least that much time if not longer.
>>A 7000 w diesel generator helps a bunch
>>How bout you, Lou?
>>What have you done to prepare for what you think is going to happen?
>>I know you don't have a gun, so whatcha going to do?
>
>Right. Have you ever heard the statement, "There's always a bigger
>fish out there"? The noise of your diesel generator, if you really
>have one, would attract all sorts of unwanted attention to your
>property.
>
>Do you actually believe that you and your litte arsenal of weapons
>could hold off a concerted attack if it came? You might be fine with
>the occasional one or two people coming around, but if an organized
>group of people wanted what you have, you're deluded in thinking you
>could stop them from taking it.
He certainly would be worse off in your scenario WITHOUT his firearms,
wouldn't he?
--
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation
with the average voter. (Winston Churchill)
Larry W. - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
>
> Let's see now, you have a 7000 w diesel generator that consumes
> say 1 gallon/hr and operates at least 80-90 dB.
Maybe so, but that is manageable. Easy enough to muffle.
>
> Better have a big fuel storage tank since none of the gas stations
> will be able to get fuel out of their tanks because the pumps and
> computers don't have power.
Correct.
>
> Won't make much difference since none of the ATMs will be operating
> along with credit cards so you wouldn't be able to get cash buy fuel
> anyway.
Correct again.
>
> Won't make much difference anyway since after listening to that
> generator
> for about a week, somebody in the neighborhood is going to grab their
> AR 15 and use it for target practice.
Neighborhood? Do you think everybody lives on postage stamp lots right on
top of their neighbors?
>
> (SFWIW, used a contractor generator 50 hours/week for a year. Once
> was enough.)
>
You must have used a piece of junk then. Or, perhaps you had it set up
right next to where you were working. There are better ways...
> Since the city water supply may be contaminated and not working,
> how much bottled water do you keep on hand?
City water? Have you not heard of that recent invention called a well?
>
> Hope you have a big swimming pool for the toilets, since the city
> water
> system will not be working.
City water? Have you not heard of that recent invention called a well?
>
> If not, it's port-a-potty time.
Well - outhouses with lime pits did indeed serve quite well for a long time.
>
> You might be "lucky" and have a septic tank.
>
> Not on city water, better make sure your well isn't contaminated.
It's not.
>
> After that, not going to be paranoid about something that is never
> going to happen.
Agreed.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 4/24/2013 6:50 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 4/24/2013 8:42 AM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> The AP Tweet account get hacked, a phony tweet is sent before
>>> it is found and a correction can be issued in less than 10 minutes.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, the DOW JONES stock average has drops almost
>>> 20 points on the "bad news" before recovering with news of the
>>> correction.
>>>
>> The thing about financial markets is that they already super respond to
>> ANY kind of news. Anywhere in the world. Markets are always jittery.
>> Brokers and traders are jittery. That is the nature of the beast. With
>> modern electronic communications, this only increases the speed and
>> intensity of the response.
>>
>> It was interesting how various "media" were coming out with "reports" of
>> impending doom because of this little incident. The market "crashed"
>> and "recovered" in about ten minutes. When is the last time you heard
>> about a complete market recovery occurring in ten minutes? Yes, the
>> digital media caused this little "crash". And just as quickly the
>> digital media cause this "correction". Talk about a non event. And
>> talk about about a bunch of hysterical media scum crating monsters out
>> of nothing.
>>
>> Wake me up when something interesting happens.
>>
>> <rolls, over and goes back to sleep>
>>
>>
>>
> Oh no, this was not a non event.
> If you happen to be in a fund where they sold off, you might have been
> lost a bunch of money, then recovered it back, but at a slightly higher
> price... it depends. The machines can react fast, but not in reverse of
> the order and price... Some people lost, some made out.
>
What you are describing is a daily event, on paper some people lose
money and some people make money every day. Add to that while the Dow
dropped about 150 points, that was slightly over 1% and that alone was
nothing out of the ordinary, that happens very often.
And typically mutual funds are not bought and sold during the same day
rather they are bought and sold after the market closes. It is the day
traders that took the ride. Mutual funds are not bought and sold like
the day traders buy and sell individual stocks.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:09:10 -0500, "ChairMan" <[email protected]>
>>My AR wil come in handy when bleedin heart libs such as yourself that
>>haven't prepared, come to my house to get my food and loot for whatever
>>you
>>think you need.
>
> Yeah, but now that I know you have an AR, I'll come prepared with a
> Fusil Automatique Legere and cut you to shreds for your food.
>
> Good luck to you.
Come on down, you don't have a clue what else I have, but I'll set a place
for ya.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "ChairMan" wrote:
>
>>My AR wil come in handy when bleedin heart libs such as yourself that
>>haven't prepared, come to my house to get my food and loot for whatever
>>you
>>think you need.
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Get back to me after you have lost all of your utilities for about 2
> weeks.
>
> Lew
>
I'm good for a least that much time if not longer.
A 7000 w diesel generator helps a bunch
How bout you, Lou?
What have you done to prepare for what you think is going to happen?
I know you don't have a gun, so whatcha going to do?