> I want to buy a good spokeshave. I have some $25 types and they work
but they chatter and require constant attention. Lee Valley has what
looks like a nice one and so does Lie Neilsen but at significantly more
money. I need some advice.
I use old Stanley 51's and 52's without any problems. I pay about
$15.00 for them from old tool dealers. Just keep them sharp and set.
You don't need to shell out big bucks for a spokeshave to get good
results.
EdG wrote:
> I want to buy a good spokeshave. I have some $25 types and they work
> but they chatter and require constant attention. Lee Valley has what
> looks like a nice one and so does Lie Neilsen but at significantly more
> money. I need some advice. EdG
I also like the LV metal spokeshave - I use it on contouring electric
guitar bodies and also have the curved one for guitar necks and it
works very well also. I must admit I am not the best with a spokeshave
yet but get better. I have not had to sharpen it much but sharpness of
the blade does seem to make a difference also. The thing with LV is the
precision of machining and the components which makes all the diference
in the world IMO.
Mike
Around here, unless you are looking for baby clothes, yard sales are a waste
of time.
"Guess who" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 22:32:50 -0600, "D Steck" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Current issue of Shopnotes shows you how to make your own...
> >
>
> I got mine [several sizes] still mint from yard sales and flea market
> ...$1 or $2 per. I never go over $5 for anything, and never buy
> anything I can't use or spend little time cleaning up. It pays to be
> patient.
>
I have a LV Vetitas spoke shave and I love it. There are not too expensive
either. I've also use the Lie-Nielsen, and it's great. If cost is a factor
go with the Veritas.
On another note there should be some articles out there about tuning your
spoke shave. Get a thicker blade and replace the veler cap with a solid
brass cap and you may save a few $$$ and get a unique spoke shave! A friend
did this and the results are very good. There is an article floating around
on this.
If you can find an old stanley off e-bay or a tool dealer that cool too!
"EdG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I want to buy a good spokeshave. I have some $25 types and they work
> but they chatter and require constant attention. Lee Valley has what
> looks like a nice one and so does Lie Neilsen but at significantly more
> money. I need some advice. EdG
>
"Buster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:3eE9f.385141$tl2.263107@pd7tw3no...
>I have a LV Vetitas spoke shave and I love it. There are not too expensive
>either. I've also use the Lie-Nielsen, and it's great. If cost is a
>factor go with the Veritas.
>
> On another note there should be some articles out there about tuning your
> spoke shave. Get a thicker blade and replace the veler cap with a solid
> brass cap and you may save a few $$$ and get a unique spoke shave! A
> friend did this and the results are very good. There is an article
> floating around on this.
>
> If you can find an old stanley off e-bay or a tool dealer that cool too!
>
Lee Valley. Don't even bother with the capped kind. The LV are ready as
they arrive to do what spokeshaves do. Not only that, but you get two for
one. Concave shaving or convex/straight in the same package, but only if
you reverse the leading aluminum. I have two, each preset, because when I'm
smoothing out stuff at the horse, I don't want to do anything more than grab
the appropriate tool.
The kits also look good. Threads answer the chief objection to the
traditional low angle shave, that of the sliding wedge action. One of these
days I'll fill out an order with one.
I don't own LN shaves, but I have Stanley and Record, and they are even
properly fettled for best use. Haven't touched them in four years. Like
the low-angle types better.
One further advantage - the low angle are easier to develop proficiency
with. Kids at school who struggled with regular shaves got the low-angle
ones working with ten minutes practice - even on end grain.
Larry Jaques wrote:
> On 31 Oct 2005 18:50:48 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, "EdG"
> <[email protected]> quickly quoth:
>
>
>>I want to buy a good spokeshave. I have some $25 types and they work
>>but they chatter and require constant attention. Lee Valley has what
>>looks like a nice one and so does Lie Neilsen but at significantly more
>>money. I need some advice. EdG
>
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=44834&cat=1,50230
>
> If not the LVT shave, why not buy a blade from Ron Hock and make your
> own?
>
> http://www.hocktools.com/products.htm for the iron.
> http://www.shavings.net/TEACHSHAVE.HTM Spokie's famous shave page.
>
> Also, look into a drawknife for shaping. I love my Veritas 6" carving
> drawknife. (The price has doubled since I bought mine!) <thud>
>
>
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Lee Valleys Contour planes work very well
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=46321&cat=1,50230&ap=1
and I use them as well as the flat and round ones
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=49142&cat=1,50230&ap=1
I can get nice thin curlies from marine plywood using any of the four.
Haven't used the concave yet but I've got access to a bunch of long
scrap that might make a few nice walking sticks to practice on.
Joe
> I use old Stanley 51's and 52's without any problems. I pay about
> $15.00 for them from old tool dealers. Just keep them sharp and set.
> You don't need to shell out big bucks for a spokeshave to get good
> results.
Well that may be true with some caveats
1. Do you want it to work on concave surfaces
OR
convex surfaces?
Normally to work on both concace and convex curves
you need two spoke shaves. The Lee Valley/Veritas
version is supposed to be able to do both. But normally,
a tool that does multi-functions doesn't do either as
well as two dedicated tools do.
2. Do you want to hog off wood or create a near finished
surface?
The greater the distance between the cutting edge and
the front of the mouth opening the more wood can be
removed with each pass - but at a cost - likely tear
out and less control. A tight mouth will produce finer
shavings and a better finished surface, with less or
no tear out and with a lot of control - but it's slow.
3. Do you want to shave with a pull stroke, a push
stroke or both?
Because the direction of the grain changes in curves
it's nice to be able to pull in one direction and push
in the other. A shave that is comfortable and controllable
in both modes is nice to have.
4. Are you good at controling hand tools?
The Stanley type spoke shaves have the handles
up off the wood by several inches. That means
they're easy to accidentally tilt - and dig in.
The closer your hands are to the wood, the less
apt to tilt the tool.
If you're good at "seeing" that your tool is square
to the sides you're working on then you don't need
fingers in contact on both sides of the wood. But
if you aren't, the Stanley won't let you have
contact with the sides of the piece your shaving.
just some things to think about
charlie b
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 15:02:40 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> I use old Stanley 51's and 52's without any problems. I pay about
>> $15.00 for them from old tool dealers. Just keep them sharp and set.
>> You don't need to shell out big bucks for a spokeshave to get good
>> results.
>
> Well that may be true with some caveats
[snip of caveats]
>just some things to think about
>
>charlie b
Given all that, do you have a recommendation for a good spokeshave?
I've been kind of looking around for one and haven't seen anything
that really spins my wheels.
--
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
EdG wrote:
> I want to buy a good spokeshave. I have some $25 types and they work
> but they chatter and require constant attention. Lee Valley has what
> looks like a nice one and so does Lie Neilsen but at significantly more
> money. I need some advice. EdG
>
thanks for posting this question. I'm also considering some LV SS's.
Dave
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Around here, unless you are looking for baby clothes, yard sales are a waste
> of time.
> "Guess who" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 22:32:50 -0600, "D Steck" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Current issue of Shopnotes shows you how to make your own...
> > >
> >
> > I got mine [several sizes] still mint from yard sales and flea market
> > ...$1 or $2 per. I never go over $5 for anything, and never buy
> > anything I can't use or spend little time cleaning up. It pays to be
> > patient.
> >
>
>
>
Same here. Your only hope is estate sales, and even then only one in
ten have anything worthwhile.
Larry Jaques wrote:
> If not the LVT shave, why not buy a blade from Ron Hock and make your
> own?
>
> http://www.hocktools.com/products.htm for the iron.
> http://www.shavings.net/TEACHSHAVE.HTM Spokie's famous shave page.
>
Where's the link to the one you've made?
--
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Buffalo, NY - USA
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"EdG" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1130813448.376652.255090
@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> I want to buy a good spokeshave. I have some $25 types and they work
> but they chatter and require constant attention. Lee Valley has what
> looks like a nice one and so does Lie Neilsen but at significantly more
> money. I need some advice. EdG
>
Love my Lee Valley spokeshaves. I have both the metal low angle one, and
the traditional wood handled one (convex bottom). I prefer the feel of the
traditional wood handled one for most work.
Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 31 Oct 2005 18:50:48 -0800, "EdG" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I want to buy a good spokeshave.
>
> Stanley #63 or #64, cheap off eBay. These are the _small_ version of
> the more common #51 or #151 pattern. They also work far better,
>
> Or else the Lee Valley. This is an excellent thing and because it's a
> metal copy of a wooden spokeshave, with the geometry of a wooden
> spokeshave, then it handles in a different way that most people prefer.
>
> I do have #51 spokeshaves that work well (after much fiddling). But my
> usual tools are drawknife, wooden spokeshave, #64, depending on the size
> of what I'm working on. The #51 falls somewhere in the middle and this
> would apply to a good Preston or Lie Nielsen spokeshave too - for bigger
> jobs I prefer the low-angle geometry of a wood shave, for final
> finishing I prefer the smaller #64.
>
>
Try www.ncworkshops.com
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:50:45 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net> quickly quoth:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> > If not the LVT shave, why not buy a blade from Ron Hock and make your
>> own?
>>
>> http://www.hocktools.com/products.htm for the iron.
>> http://www.shavings.net/TEACHSHAVE.HTM Spokie's famous shave page.
>>
>
>Where's the link to the one you've made?
Oh, a smartarse, eh? Well, Yack, here are a few pics. Man, that
camera I had in '99 was lousy for tool photos, huh?
www.diversify.com/wood/ and click on the Tools link, bottom right.
I made the spokeshave from a DerGunterSpokie kit and his piece
of purkleheartless wood. I later found the little piece of Lignum
Vitae and inset a hard mouth in the beastie. It helped!
See? I have completed a few projects after all. Pffffffffffffffft!
;)
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On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 22:32:50 -0600, "D Steck" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Current issue of Shopnotes shows you how to make your own...
>
I got mine [several sizes] still mint from yard sales and flea market
...$1 or $2 per. I never go over $5 for anything, and never buy
anything I can't use or spend little time cleaning up. It pays to be
patient.
On 31 Oct 2005 18:50:48 -0800, "EdG" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I want to buy a good spokeshave.
Stanley #63 or #64, cheap off eBay. These are the _small_ version of
the more common #51 or #151 pattern. They also work far better,
Or else the Lee Valley. This is an excellent thing and because it's a
metal copy of a wooden spokeshave, with the geometry of a wooden
spokeshave, then it handles in a different way that most people prefer.
I do have #51 spokeshaves that work well (after much fiddling). But my
usual tools are drawknife, wooden spokeshave, #64, depending on the size
of what I'm working on. The #51 falls somewhere in the middle and this
would apply to a good Preston or Lie Nielsen spokeshave too - for bigger
jobs I prefer the low-angle geometry of a wood shave, for final
finishing I prefer the smaller #64.
On 31 Oct 2005 18:50:48 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, "EdG"
<[email protected]> quickly quoth:
>I want to buy a good spokeshave. I have some $25 types and they work
>but they chatter and require constant attention. Lee Valley has what
>looks like a nice one and so does Lie Neilsen but at significantly more
>money. I need some advice. EdG
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=44834&cat=1,50230
If not the LVT shave, why not buy a blade from Ron Hock and make your
own?
http://www.hocktools.com/products.htm for the iron.
http://www.shavings.net/TEACHSHAVE.HTM Spokie's famous shave page.
Also, look into a drawknife for shaping. I love my Veritas 6" carving
drawknife. (The price has doubled since I bought mine!) <thud>
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