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Michael White

05/02/2006 5:44 AM

Do I have Home Depot (s)crap wood?

All,

I naively bought some of that 1x12 red oak from Home Depot to build a
bookcase. You know the kind - glued together out of several 1x3s or 1x4s.
Anyway, I had to set the job aside, and it sat in my workshop for a year or
so. Now, most have boards some sort of warp. One leg has a bow along the
length of a good 3/8" over 4'. The top has one of the 1x3s warped, causing
a low spot on one side. When I dry fit the bookcase, it does -not- look
pleasing to the eye.

I don't think jointing is possible due to the thickness (it'll leave me with
a nice sheet of oak paper when I'm done) and the fact that I don't have an
11" wide jointer. Likewise, a planer will just roll it flat.

Any ideas on what this wood is good for? I guess I could glue what I have
together and use it for workshop shelving, but I'm not in need of shelving
at the moment. It'd probably get in the way more than anything.

Thanks in advance.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer


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"Sonny"

in reply to Michael White on 05/02/2006 5:44 AM

05/02/2006 8:54 AM

Ripping and reglueing ....including glueing an added strip to obtain
the original width....is a common practice for repairing warped boards.


Another possible way to correct your board is to bend it back using
moisture and clamping. It takes a lot longer for this repair.

A related ripping repair: Considering home repair, specifically
hardwood floors, when removing a warped or buckled floor board (or two)
is a bad or inconvenient choice, a careful cut along a board allows
space for a buckled board to lay back down evenly. Any excess spacing,
due to kerf, is filled with stained (match floor color) jute rope/twine
chinching. And the jute allows for any future expansion-contraction.

TW

"Tom Woodman"

in reply to Michael White on 05/02/2006 5:44 AM

04/02/2006 10:12 PM

a 3/4" x 1" strip lengthwise under the front edge ... glued & screwed
and maybe even dadoed..(about 3/4 " back from the front edge) and running
the length of the shelf will not only straighten it out but add a large
amount of strength. Also adds a bit of finished look IMHO


"Michael White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> All,
>
> I naively bought some of that 1x12 red oak from Home Depot to build a
> bookcase. You know the kind - glued together out of several 1x3s or 1x4s.
> Anyway, I had to set the job aside, and it sat in my workshop for a year
> or
> so. Now, most have boards some sort of warp. One leg has a bow along the
> length of a good 3/8" over 4'. The top has one of the 1x3s warped,
> causing
> a low spot on one side. When I dry fit the bookcase, it does -not- look
> pleasing to the eye.
>
> I don't think jointing is possible due to the thickness (it'll leave me
> with
> a nice sheet of oak paper when I'm done) and the fact that I don't have an
> 11" wide jointer. Likewise, a planer will just roll it flat.
>
> Any ideas on what this wood is good for? I guess I could glue what I have
> together and use it for workshop shelving, but I'm not in need of shelving
> at the moment. It'd probably get in the way more than anything.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
>

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Phisherman

in reply to Michael White on 05/02/2006 5:44 AM

05/02/2006 12:40 PM

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 05:44:44 GMT, Michael White
<[email protected]> wrote:

>All,
>
>I naively bought some of that 1x12 red oak from Home Depot to build a
>bookcase. You know the kind - glued together out of several 1x3s or 1x4s.
>Anyway, I had to set the job aside, and it sat in my workshop for a year or
>so. Now, most have boards some sort of warp. One leg has a bow along the
>length of a good 3/8" over 4'. The top has one of the 1x3s warped, causing
>a low spot on one side. When I dry fit the bookcase, it does -not- look
>pleasing to the eye.
>
>I don't think jointing is possible due to the thickness (it'll leave me with
>a nice sheet of oak paper when I'm done) and the fact that I don't have an
>11" wide jointer. Likewise, a planer will just roll it flat.
>
>Any ideas on what this wood is good for? I guess I could glue what I have
>together and use it for workshop shelving, but I'm not in need of shelving
>at the moment. It'd probably get in the way more than anything.
>
>Thanks in advance.

You might have to rip the board down, then true them up for another
project. (I stay away from HD's wood unless I'm desperate.)

MM

"Max Mahanke"

in reply to Michael White on 05/02/2006 5:44 AM

06/02/2006 5:22 AM

Humm ..... starting to see why Krenov refused to use kiln dried wood.

"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> First off, No you don't have crap wood. It warped because of how you
stored
> it. Wood warps.
> I am surprised that you are not having to deal with cupping also.
>
> "Michael White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > All,
> >
> > I naively bought some of that 1x12 red oak from Home Depot to build a
> > bookcase. You know the kind - glued together out of several 1x3s or
1x4s.
> > Anyway, I had to set the job aside, and it sat in my workshop for a year
> > or
> > so. Now, most have boards some sort of warp. One leg has a bow along
the
> > length of a good 3/8" over 4'. The top has one of the 1x3s warped,
> > causing
> > a low spot on one side. When I dry fit the bookcase, it does -not- look
> > pleasing to the eye.
> >
> > I don't think jointing is possible due to the thickness (it'll leave me
> > with
> > a nice sheet of oak paper when I'm done) and the fact that I don't have
an
> > 11" wide jointer. Likewise, a planer will just roll it flat.
> >
> > Any ideas on what this wood is good for? I guess I could glue what I
have
> > together and use it for workshop shelving, but I'm not in need of
shelving
> > at the moment. It'd probably get in the way more than anything.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > --
> > Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> > fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
> >
>
>

MW

Michael White

in reply to Michael White on 05/02/2006 5:44 AM

05/02/2006 5:32 PM

Leon,

Actually, there is a bit, and that does explain a few of the pieces, but
most were stored with the longest edge supported by the floor. The floor
is a raised plywood floor.

Thanks for pointing that out. I need to build some sort of storage area,
anyway.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Leon wrote:

> First off, No you don't have crap wood. It warped because of how you
> stored
> it. Wood warps.
> I am surprised that you are not having to deal with cupping also.
>
> "Michael White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> All,
>>
>> I naively bought some of that 1x12 red oak from Home Depot to build a
>> bookcase. You know the kind - glued together out of several 1x3s or
>> 1x4s. Anyway, I had to set the job aside, and it sat in my workshop for a
>> year or
>> so. Now, most have boards some sort of warp. One leg has a bow along the
>> length of a good 3/8" over 4'. The top has one of the 1x3s warped,
>> causing
>> a low spot on one side. When I dry fit the bookcase, it does -not- look
>> pleasing to the eye.
>>
>> I don't think jointing is possible due to the thickness (it'll leave me
>> with
>> a nice sheet of oak paper when I'm done) and the fact that I don't have
>> an
>> 11" wide jointer. Likewise, a planer will just roll it flat.
>>
>> Any ideas on what this wood is good for? I guess I could glue what I
>> have together and use it for workshop shelving, but I'm not in need of
>> shelving
>> at the moment. It'd probably get in the way more than anything.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> --
>> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
>> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
>>

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Michael White on 05/02/2006 5:44 AM

05/02/2006 8:32 AM


"Michael White" wrote in message

> Any ideas on what this wood is good for? I guess I could glue what I have
> together and use it for workshop shelving, but I'm not in need of shelving
> at the moment. It'd probably get in the way more than anything.

As long as your wood is not out and out reaction wood, judicious
ripping/crosscutting will make it easier to mitigate bowed, warped, cupped
boards and give you usable stock dimensions for many of your project parts.
And you can often glue them back together for wider widths if need be.

Part of woodworking is learning to deal with warped, cupped, bowed lumber.
Reading the grain and cut of a board will give you a clue as to any future
problems you may have, and when you get the knack, a board will even tell
you where in the project it needs to go.

As far as buying from HD. Other than the price, HD's red oak is no worse
than any other red oak if you know the pitfalls in buying lumber. AAMOF, I
keep an eye on the red oak bins when I go into HD for construction lumber,
and often pick out the few inevitable quartersawn boards in any stack for
future face frame rails and stiles. Even at HD prices, a rift or quartersawn
piece may be worth having and be cheaper than the dedicated "quartersawn"
bin at the hardwood dealers.

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"Leon"

in reply to Michael White on 05/02/2006 5:44 AM

05/02/2006 2:22 PM

First off, No you don't have crap wood. It warped because of how you stored
it. Wood warps.
I am surprised that you are not having to deal with cupping also.

"Michael White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> All,
>
> I naively bought some of that 1x12 red oak from Home Depot to build a
> bookcase. You know the kind - glued together out of several 1x3s or 1x4s.
> Anyway, I had to set the job aside, and it sat in my workshop for a year
> or
> so. Now, most have boards some sort of warp. One leg has a bow along the
> length of a good 3/8" over 4'. The top has one of the 1x3s warped,
> causing
> a low spot on one side. When I dry fit the bookcase, it does -not- look
> pleasing to the eye.
>
> I don't think jointing is possible due to the thickness (it'll leave me
> with
> a nice sheet of oak paper when I'm done) and the fact that I don't have an
> 11" wide jointer. Likewise, a planer will just roll it flat.
>
> Any ideas on what this wood is good for? I guess I could glue what I have
> together and use it for workshop shelving, but I'm not in need of shelving
> at the moment. It'd probably get in the way more than anything.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer
>


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