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22/10/2004 1:59 PM

Constructing an Outdoor Storage Building (to make more room in my garage shop!)

I really want to expand my shop into an area inhabited by a lawn mower
and other garden equipment. I'm thinking that an outdoor storage
building would work well for this!

I was thinking about building one from wood, or buying a cheapo metal
one that I doubt I would be happy with. How long would it take to build
a nice wood one? Is a weekend enough? Or probably two weekends?

Can anyone recommend some good websites or plans?

Thanks!

Joshua


This topic has 12 replies

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"TeamCasa"

in reply to No Spam on 22/10/2004 1:59 PM

22/10/2004 1:10 PM

Check with the local building department first. My city does not require a
permit for a shed that is less than 120 sqf. The adjacent city requires a
permit for any out building.

10'x12' T1-11 with simple gable roof, one door took me, my son and
son-in-law 1 day to frame,sheet and roof. Trim and painting, 2 more days.
About $1200.00

No plans, just did it.

Dave


"No Spam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I really want to expand my shop into an area inhabited by a lawn mower and
>other garden equipment. I'm thinking that an outdoor storage building
>would work well for this!
>
> I was thinking about building one from wood, or buying a cheapo metal one
> that I doubt I would be happy with. How long would it take to build a
> nice wood one? Is a weekend enough? Or probably two weekends?
>
> Can anyone recommend some good websites or plans?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joshua

BE

Brian Elfert

in reply to No Spam on 22/10/2004 1:59 PM

22/10/2004 11:27 PM

No Spam <[email protected]> writes:

>I really want to expand my shop into an area inhabited by a lawn mower
>and other garden equipment. I'm thinking that an outdoor storage
>building would work well for this!

>I was thinking about building one from wood, or buying a cheapo metal

Remember that building one from wood would be more like carpentry than
woodworking.

My house is new with seamless steel siding. I just assembled a vinyl
shed. The vinyl shed was easier than wood to asssemble and it doesn't
need painting or shingles. The shed cost $560 at Lowes for an 8x8.

I specifically didn't want anything that needed paint since nothing on my
house will ever require painting. I'd rather spend the time on
woodworking and other hobbies.

Brian Elfert

Cn

"Clint"

in reply to No Spam on 22/10/2004 1:59 PM

22/10/2004 7:49 PM

I bought a kit from a local home improvement store; came with all the parts
I needed, and I think the rafters were made already. 8x10, and the price
was around $500. I don't think I could have built it too much cheaper if I
bought the materials separately, and I would have been making multiple trips
back to the lumber yard, I'm sure. With the help of my dad, I was able to
put it together in a day. Didn't bother with siding it, although that would
have been nice.

Only thing I would have done different is to pick up a window and put it in.
Doesn't have to be big, or trying to get a really good view. But they get
dark when the door closes...

Clint

"No Spam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I really want to expand my shop into an area inhabited by a lawn mower
> and other garden equipment. I'm thinking that an outdoor storage
> building would work well for this!
>
> I was thinking about building one from wood, or buying a cheapo metal
> one that I doubt I would be happy with. How long would it take to build
> a nice wood one? Is a weekend enough? Or probably two weekends?
>
> Can anyone recommend some good websites or plans?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joshua

mM

[email protected] (MJ Wallace)

in reply to No Spam on 22/10/2004 1:59 PM

23/10/2004 7:09 PM

Joshua:
> I was thinking about building one from wood, or buying a cheapo metal
> one that I doubt I would be happy with. How long would it take to build
> a nice wood one? Is a weekend enough? Or probably two weekends?
>
> Can anyone recommend some good websites or plans?
>


Family Handyman magazine has released plans for a garden shed
every year for the last three. Look in their index and see
if you can get the copy from your local library. I know I used
to be able to do so. If not you can order back copies.

The cost of the shed is proportional to the amount of tools
you already own. If you're building from a kit - see
http://www.cedarshed.com/garden-sheds.html
for a good quality shed - it will run you anywhere from
$700 on up (depending on size) and you won't need a lot
of tools (power driver, etc.)

However, building one, be prepared to spend some dough for
materials, finish, tools that you don't have, etc. I spent
close to $1800 on mine and I never finished but I had
a lot of fun and learned a lot. You never get that experience
from a kit, but if you don't need the learning experience
then go for a kit.

MJ Wallace

mR

[email protected] (Ron Truitt)

in reply to No Spam on 22/10/2004 1:59 PM

22/10/2004 9:19 PM

I built a 12 by 16 wood framed one to match my house about 2 years ago.
Made my own double doors and used two windows on sunny side with full 8
foot ceiling. I think it would be big enough for a woodshop if I got
all my lawn and garden equipment out.

It took about 4-5 weekends for two people and was around @2000 but there
are plenty of places I could have saved money by using scrounged 2 by
fours and plywood, etc. If you have a local Habitat for Humanit restore
it might be a good place to look for wood and windows cheap. Also you
can haunt construction sites for concrete block for piers(if doing pier
and beam foundation), 2 by four scrap for block pieces in corner posts
or window cripple studs. You may also find some leftover lumber being
thrown out or sold for not much money if you give yourself time.

I was in a hurry and rented air gun, compressor, etc. and bought new
wood so you could definitely cut some of the costs.

RonT

Rr

"RonB"

in reply to No Spam on 22/10/2004 1:59 PM

22/10/2004 2:21 PM

Joshua:
Are you talking about a separate structure for garden and lawn storage or
both shop and storage under one roof?

I recently emptied several pesky items (self-propelled push mower, string
trimmer, roto-tiller, power washer, gas cans, car oil-change pan and storage
cans, etc.) from my garage/shop by putting one of the Rubbermaid storage
containers under my deck (floor is about 6' above grade). They come in all
sizes but the one I used is about 4' tall, 4' wide and 6 or 7' deep. It has
doors on the front and a slide-back roof panel. Moving in sand, assembly,
and covering the remaining area with decorative gravel took an afternoon.
Thought about building someting under the deck but the whole plastic-shed
project only cost about $400, as I recall. The one I bought was among the
smaller ones and they appear to be pretty durable.

I also built a 12'x14' storage shed at a previous home with windows,
decorative trim, slab, shingles, etc. Cost about $1,000 and took several
evenings and a couple of weekends.

If you are talking a whole new building to house shop and garden stuff it is
a project requiring a lot of planning and $.

"No Spam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I really want to expand my shop into an area inhabited by a lawn mower and
>other garden equipment. I'm thinking that an outdoor storage building
>would work well for this!
>
> I was thinking about building one from wood, or buying a cheapo metal one
> that I doubt I would be happy with. How long would it take to build a
> nice wood one? Is a weekend enough? Or probably two weekends?
>
> Can anyone recommend some good websites or plans?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joshua

TM

"Tony Mo"

in reply to No Spam on 22/10/2004 1:59 PM

23/10/2004 12:09 AM

Well, I started mine in June and just finished last week by installing the
homemade cabinets. This was a completely new experience for me; buildling
concrete forms, pouring concrete, framing walls, building trusses, making
doors (2 double sets), installing a window ($10 at building recycler),
siding (T1-11), roofing, soffit/fascia, eavestrough, wiring, cabinets with
raised panel doors, workbench.
I had never done any of that before but I did it all myself with help from
friends. It's 8ft X 20ft with full 8ft walls (I'm not banging my head
inside this one) I probably have over $3000 into it by now. (long and
narrow because it had to fill in a certain space). It wasnt' really going
to be a major project but it just took off and I had a whole lotta fun and a
great learning experience.
One book I found helpful was " Building a Shed" by Joseph Truini. They have
plans and colour photos of many different sizes and shapes.
Good Luck
Tony

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patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to No Spam on 22/10/2004 1:59 PM

22/10/2004 8:46 PM

No Spam <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I was thinking about building one from wood, or buying a cheapo metal
> one that I doubt I would be happy with. How long would it take to build
> a nice wood one? Is a weekend enough? Or probably two weekends?
>
Depends on what you do for a foundation and/or floor. In my town, the shed
has to be 'mobile', as in, not bolted to a foundation, and under 120 sq ft,
in order to not require a permit, and/or deal with setback issues.

Mine stretches the definition of 'shed' considerably, but has received
nothing but positive comments from neighbors. The city permit folks know
it's here, and have indicated they like the looks. The construction and
finish materials match the house. It has become a garden feature, because
there is no place to hide it in my modest sized yard.

I _may_ have gone overboard. It wouldn't be the first time. There's maybe
50 hours of labor, and $1200 of materials, including a divided light
fiberglass door, electricity, lights and a window. It hides the compost
heap and gardening detrius from sight.

There's a reason these things are known in the garden world as 'a folly'.

Patriarch

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to No Spam on 22/10/2004 1:59 PM

23/10/2004 10:52 AM

>Umm a nice one... maybe a a few "Weeks" not weekends.


I'm with Leon with this one but, if the question has to be
asked, the multiplier goes way up.

Set aside a summer.

No really.

UA100

md

mac davis

in reply to No Spam on 22/10/2004 1:59 PM

23/10/2004 6:06 PM

On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:59:57 -0500, No Spam <[email protected]> wrote:

>I really want to expand my shop into an area inhabited by a lawn mower
>and other garden equipment. I'm thinking that an outdoor storage
>building would work well for this!
>
>I was thinking about building one from wood, or buying a cheapo metal
>one that I doubt I would be happy with. How long would it take to build
>a nice wood one? Is a weekend enough? Or probably two weekends?
>
>Can anyone recommend some good websites or plans?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Joshua

From my experience, I'd say build one out of wood...
It will probably cost more, but be well worth it... several free plans
on the web, too..

About 4 years ago, we needed storage space for the Daughter-in-law, so
instead of building a cute shed, we went cheap and bought a 10' x 14'
metal shed for about $350 at Lowes...
Talked them into free delivery and when it got there, we couldn't
believe how many friggin' pieces it was in!!

After 2 weekend of my neighbor and I cussin and modifying, it finally
went together and was kinda done and kinda level/square... NEVER
AGAIN!!

If I'm gonna use a few hundred screws, washers, nuts, etc., I'd rather
build something out of wood and know it's going to stay built...

jj

jo4hn

in reply to No Spam on 22/10/2004 1:59 PM

23/10/2004 3:44 PM

No Spam wrote:

> I really want to expand my shop into an area inhabited by a lawn mower
> and other garden equipment. I'm thinking that an outdoor storage
> building would work well for this!
>
> I was thinking about building one from wood, or buying a cheapo metal
> one that I doubt I would be happy with. How long would it take to build
> a nice wood one? Is a weekend enough? Or probably two weekends?
>
> Can anyone recommend some good websites or plans?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joshua
You might want to talk to John Moorhead or DAGS on his thread
"Foundation". Great read both here and on apbw (with photos).
mahalo,
jo4hn

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to No Spam on 22/10/2004 1:59 PM

22/10/2004 7:48 PM


"No Spam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I really want to expand my shop into an area inhabited by a lawn mower and
>other garden equipment. I'm thinking that an outdoor storage building
>would work well for this!
>
> I was thinking about building one from wood, or buying a cheapo metal one
> that I doubt I would be happy with. How long would it take to build a
> nice wood one? Is a weekend enough? Or probably two weekends?


Umm a nice one... maybe a a few "Weeks" not weekends.


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