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TD Driver

18/11/2008 9:13 PM

Table saw surface cleanup

The top of my table saw was an accidental bystander when I was staining
the last project with a water-based stain. What can I safely use to
remove the half-dozen small stains without damaging the cast iron top?


This topic has 12 replies

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to TD Driver on 18/11/2008 9:13 PM

19/11/2008 7:54 AM

"TD Driver" wrote
> The top of my table saw was an accidental bystander when I was staining
> the last project with a water-based stain. What can I safely use to remove
> the half-dozen small stains without damaging the cast iron top?

You simply use mineral spirits or WD-40 as a solvent, and 0000 steel wool
(or better yet, the current high tech equivalent available at most hardware
stores, which lasts longer without shredding), to clean cast iron tops, then
apply a product like "TopCote", or Johnson's Paste Wax in some climates, to
protect them from rust and provide a slick surface.

That said, an *excellent* abrasive for cleaning cast iron surfaces are the
"sand-flex" blocks made by Klingspor, but a good deal pricier than the
above:

http://www.theruststore.com/Sandflex-Rust-Erase-3-Pack-P11C7.aspx

Sand-flex blocks take some elbow grease to clean a large area, but the
results can be pretty spectacular. Again, use a solvent, as above, at the
same time.

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BB

Bored Borg

in reply to TD Driver on 18/11/2008 9:13 PM

21/11/2008 1:40 PM

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:13:17 +0000, TD Driver wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):

> The top of my table saw was an accidental bystander when I was staining
> the last project with a water-based stain. What can I safely use to
> remove the half-dozen small stains without damaging the cast iron top?

If the stain is polymerizing (like acrylic or some such) and the table top is
"open" and porous, you're probably hosed but superficial stains probably
respond well to alcohol as much as thinners. Any damage is purely cosmetic
though.

meanwhile...

Have you tried Coca Cola and steel wool?

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to TD Driver on 18/11/2008 9:13 PM

19/11/2008 7:35 PM


"Larry Blanchard" wrote

> -MIKE- wrote:
>
>> To keep from damaging cast iron, you're probably safe with just about
>> anything but thermite. :-)
>
> You took the words right out of my mouth :-).
>
Thermites?

You need to call the exterminater for those.

<rim shot, groan>


CS

Charlie Self

in reply to TD Driver on 18/11/2008 9:13 PM

20/11/2008 4:34 AM

On Nov 19, 7:35=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Larry Blanchard" =A0wrote
>
> > =A0-MIKE- wrote:
>
> >> To keep from damaging cast iron, you're probably safe with just about
> >> anything but thermite. =A0 :-)
>
> > You took the words right out of my mouth :-).
>
> Thermites?
>
> You need to call the exterminater for those.
>
> <rim shot, groan>

I got a dog, if she heard that, she'd roll over and stick her legs in
the air.

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to TD Driver on 18/11/2008 9:13 PM

21/11/2008 6:44 PM

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:40:22 +0000, Bored Borg
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:13:17 +0000, TD Driver wrote
>(in article <[email protected]>):
>
>> The top of my table saw was an accidental bystander when I was staining
>> the last project with a water-based stain. What can I safely use to
>> remove the half-dozen small stains without damaging the cast iron top?
>
>If the stain is polymerizing (like acrylic or some such) and the table top is
>"open" and porous, you're probably hosed but superficial stains probably
>respond well to alcohol as much as thinners. Any damage is purely cosmetic
>though.
>
>meanwhile...
>
>Have you tried Coca Cola and steel wool?


If the rust stain is not too deep, kerosene might remove it. Kerosene
won't damage your iron top, nor your skin, but be careful about rags
catching fire.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to TD Driver on 18/11/2008 9:13 PM

19/11/2008 8:05 AM


"TD Driver" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The top of my table saw was an accidental bystander when I was staining
> the last project with a water-based stain. What can I safely use to remove
> the half-dozen small stains without damaging the cast iron top?

To throw in yet another suggestion, I have used Empire Top Saver, original
makers of TopCote. I sprayed some of the Top Saver on the TS surface and
use a 3M Scotch Brite pad under a ROS to scrub the soaked surface. The once
brown but smooth patina stained surface of 8+ years was restored to pretty
darn shiny with little effort. Typically I keep a coat of TopCote on the
surface for normal protection.

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to TD Driver on 18/11/2008 9:13 PM

19/11/2008 3:17 PM

WD-40 and synthetic steel wool(3m pads).

If you can stand the mess, a ROS with the very
aggressive pads will make it go a little faster.

If it's not too bad, I just use the 3M pads with
a old router push pad.

It's pretty quick and with a roll of paper towels,
it's done in a few minutes.

I always use TopCote on all my iron tops after
the clean up.





TD Driver wrote:
> The top of my table saw was an accidental bystander when I was staining
> the last project with a water-based stain. What can I safely use to
> remove the half-dozen small stains without damaging the cast iron top?

CS

Charlie Self

in reply to TD Driver on 18/11/2008 9:13 PM

19/11/2008 2:06 AM

On Nov 18, 10:56=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> TD Driver wrote:
> > The top of my table saw was an accidental bystander when I was staining
> > the last project with a water-based stain. What can I safely use to
> > remove the half-dozen small stains without damaging the cast iron top?
>
> Most thinners will remove it.
> I keep a can of brake cleaner handy for spills and drops of just about
> anything.
>
> As for damaging the cast iron top. =A0Am I missing something here?
> Are you talking about protecting some kind of top coat you put on?
>
> To keep from damaging cast iron, you're probably safe with just about
> anything but thermite. =A0 :-)
>
> --

Not quite, but my guess is the OP is writing of stains. He can use
paint thinner, WD40 or similar substance to remove most of the stain,
but what's left is down in the iron and is going to remain there,
possibly short of regrinding the surface.

Whatever he uses should be followed, as soon as the top is dry, with
a thorough waxing and buffing of the top.


Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to TD Driver on 18/11/2008 9:13 PM

19/11/2008 8:27 AM



"Leon" wrote

> makers of TopCote. I sprayed some of the Top Saver on the TS surface and
> use a 3M Scotch Brite pad under a ROS to scrub the soaked surface. The
> once brown but smooth patina stained surface of 8+ years was restored to
> pretty darn shiny with little effort. Typically I keep a coat of TopCote
> on the surface for normal protection.

Have you tried Evapo-Rust on anything?

http://www.evapo-rust.com/

I have a couple of old planes, and a steel square or two, that I've been
thinking about soaking in this stuff, but don't know anyone with firsthand
experience on its efficacy.

Locally, it's available at O'Reilly Auto Parts.

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Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to TD Driver on 18/11/2008 9:13 PM

18/11/2008 9:56 PM

TD Driver wrote:
> The top of my table saw was an accidental bystander when I was staining
> the last project with a water-based stain. What can I safely use to
> remove the half-dozen small stains without damaging the cast iron top?


Most thinners will remove it.
I keep a can of brake cleaner handy for spills and drops of just about
anything.

As for damaging the cast iron top. Am I missing something here?
Are you talking about protecting some kind of top coat you put on?

To keep from damaging cast iron, you're probably safe with just about
anything but thermite. :-)


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Lr

"Leon"

in reply to TD Driver on 18/11/2008 9:13 PM

19/11/2008 11:00 AM


"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> "Leon" wrote
>
>> makers of TopCote. I sprayed some of the Top Saver on the TS surface and
>> use a 3M Scotch Brite pad under a ROS to scrub the soaked surface. The
>> once brown but smooth patina stained surface of 8+ years was restored to
>> pretty darn shiny with little effort. Typically I keep a coat of TopCote
>> on the surface for normal protection.
>
> Have you tried Evapo-Rust on anything?


No


> http://www.evapo-rust.com/
>
> I have a couple of old planes, and a steel square or two, that I've been
> thinking about soaking in this stuff, but don't know anyone with firsthand
> experience on its efficacy.
>
> Locally, it's available at O'Reilly Auto Parts.


Is it expensive? It looks like some pretty easy and save to use stuff.
Might be worth a test on a screw driver before using on something more
expensive.




LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to TD Driver on 18/11/2008 9:13 PM

19/11/2008 2:08 PM

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:56:52 -0600, -MIKE- wrote:

> To keep from damaging cast iron, you're probably safe with just about
> anything but thermite. :-)

You took the words right out of my mouth :-).


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