After the recent thread on food safe glue, I emailed Gorilla Glue and asked.
They replied with a detailed message. Essentially, they said that while
they haven't gone through the FDA approval process, it is already in use in
Denmark making things like cutting boards and such. They go on to say it is
completely non-toxic after curing. The only caveat is that if subjected to
temperatures over 212F for over 4 hrs (at a time) may lead to joint failure
once cooled.
Ed
On Jul 23, 2018, [email protected] wrote
(in article<[email protected]>):
> I am trying to fix coffee maker basket for 30 cup coffee maker.
Coffeemaker baskets are usually made of polypropylene resin, which is a
thermoplastic. I bet the only way to fix the basket is to heat-weld the
cracked areas. Having some extra polypropylene stock to melt into the crack
may help.
Joe Gwinn
On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 1:50:43 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 5:47:25 PM UTC-7, Markem wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 20:27:47 -0400, J. Clarke
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >Call that the ultimate? Try a Jura super auto.
> >
> > No the ultimate would be Star Trek tech that makes coffee out of
> > energy. So excuse me.
>
> I'd like this one:
> <http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20070618#.W19NQn5lAhs>
That's a well built wench...err...I mean...wrench.
On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 10:16:57 AM UTC-4, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
> On Jul 23, 2018, [email protected] wrote
> (in article<[email protected]>):
>
> > I am trying to fix coffee maker basket for 30 cup coffee maker.
>
> Coffeemaker baskets are usually made of polypropylene resin, which is a
> thermoplastic. I bet the only way to fix the basket is to heat-weld the
> cracked areas. Having some extra polypropylene stock to melt into the crack
> may help.
>
> Joe Gwinn
He could make a new one from corrugated plastic. All he needs is the
right (and smaller) forms. ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ-rokeHgwY
On Jan 12, 2:52=A0pm, "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> After the recent thread on food safe glue, I emailed Gorilla Glue and
> >> asked. They replied with a detailed message. =A0Essentially, they said=
that
> >> while they haven't gone through the FDA approval process, it is alread=
y
> >> in use in Denmark making things like cutting boards and such. =A0They =
go on
> >> to say it is completely non-toxic after curing. =A0The only caveat is =
that
> >> if subjected to temperatures over 212F for over 4 hrs (at a time) may
> >> lead to joint failure once cooled.
>
> >> Ed
>
> > Which one of the Gorilla Brand glues are you talking about?
>
> The standard Gorilla Glue and the fast cure, not the super glue, or the w=
ood
> glue.
...
That would be the polyurethane, I presume...
There are similar urethane glues that are FDA approved for indirect
contact; I'd no qualms w/ any of them.
I didn't see the earlier thread so not sure what was indicated, but
the Type-I and Type-II water-resistant glues such as Titebond II and
III are also on the approved list.
--
On Jan 12, 3:45=A0pm, "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote:
...
> Yes, polyurethane glue. =A0I think the significant factor in the previous
> discussion was water*proof*. =A0I don't trust Titebond (type 1, 2, or 3) =
to go
> through the dishwasher.
...
No, even ANSI Type I (Titebond "III") isn't rated for extreme
immersion. (It's easy to get cornfoozed between the numbers as the
Type I test Standard is the more severe while Titebond introduced
their Type II before Type III, I being implicitly already taken by the
existing "yellow" woodworkers glue)
I'd not count too much on the urethanes for long-term survival
dishwasher use but they've a better chance and should last somewhat
longer. If it's only a breadboard or somesuch w/o a lot of heavy
effort in the construction, sure. Fancy multi-blank turned salad
bowls or somesuch, I'd hate to risk the effort.
all imo, $0.02, ymmv, etc., etc., etc., ..., of course... :)
--
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 5:47:25 PM UTC-7, Markem wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 20:27:47 -0400, J. Clarke
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Call that the ultimate? Try a Jura super auto.
>
> No the ultimate would be Star Trek tech that makes coffee out of
> energy. So excuse me.
I'd like this one:
<http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20070618#.W19NQn5lAhs>
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> After the recent thread on food safe glue, I emailed Gorilla Glue and
>> asked. They replied with a detailed message. Essentially, they said that
>> while they haven't gone through the FDA approval process, it is already
>> in use in Denmark making things like cutting boards and such. They go on
>> to say it is completely non-toxic after curing. The only caveat is that
>> if subjected to temperatures over 212F for over 4 hrs (at a time) may
>> lead to joint failure once cooled.
>>
>> Ed
>
> Which one of the Gorilla Brand glues are you talking about?
>
The standard Gorilla Glue and the fast cure, not the super glue, or the wood
glue.
Ed
"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Jan 12, 2:52 pm, "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> After the recent thread on food safe glue, I emailed Gorilla Glue and
>> >> asked. They replied with a detailed message. Essentially, they said
>> >> that
>> >> while they haven't gone through the FDA approval process, it is
>> >> already
>> >> in use in Denmark making things like cutting boards and such. They go
>> >> on
>> >> to say it is completely non-toxic after curing. The only caveat is
>> >> that
>> >> if subjected to temperatures over 212F for over 4 hrs (at a time) may
>> >> lead to joint failure once cooled.
>>
>> >> Ed
>>
>> > Which one of the Gorilla Brand glues are you talking about?
>>
>> The standard Gorilla Glue and the fast cure, not the super glue, or the
>> wood
>> glue.
> ...
>
> That would be the polyurethane, I presume...
>
> There are similar urethane glues that are FDA approved for indirect
> contact; I'd no qualms w/ any of them.
>
> I didn't see the earlier thread so not sure what was indicated, but
> the Type-I and Type-II water-resistant glues such as Titebond II and
> III are also on the approved list.
>
Yes, polyurethane glue. I think the significant factor in the previous
discussion was water*proof*. I don't trust Titebond (type 1, 2, or 3) to go
through the dishwasher.
Ed
Ed
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:DC1bl.1839$%[email protected]...
>
> "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>
>> Yes, polyurethane glue. I think the significant factor in the previous
>> discussion was water*proof*. I don't trust Titebond (type 1, 2, or 3) to
>> go through the dishwasher.
>>
>> Ed
>
> I really don't think I would trust any wood to go through the dish washer.
> It is bound to swell, shrink, and eventually split. the glue will
> probably be only 1 of the problems going on inside a dishwasher.
I'll buy that. But in my experience, woodworkers don't load all the
dishwashers in the world. I'm going to assume the worst and go for the best
glue going. (grin)
I've used Gorilla glue for a couple small boats I've made. The glue joints
never fail. The paint does and then the wood does but that glue will hold
those broken pieces of wood together forever.
I wouldn't use it for every job but where I expect immersion in water, it is
generally my choice. It's good to know that it is safe for kitchen use.
Ed
"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:27:03 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>After the recent thread on food safe glue, I emailed Gorilla Glue and
>>asked.
>>They replied with a detailed message. Essentially, they said that while
>>they haven't gone through the FDA approval process, it is already in use
>>in
>>Denmark making things like cutting boards and such. They go on to say it
>>is
>>completely non-toxic after curing. The only caveat is that if subjected
>>to
>>temperatures over 212F for over 4 hrs (at a time) may lead to joint
>>failure
>>once cooled.
>>
>>Ed
>
>
> While not a test for being "non-toxic," I look at the list of
> ingrediants and look for any toxic elements. Some glues contain
> arsenic. Of course, burning a non-toxic compound yields all sorts of
> complex compounds--which might kill a pet bird or make a human sick.
LOL... I use cedar boards for cooking salmon now and then (they don't get
so hot they burn and not glued up pieces) but I can't imagine making a glued
up baking dish. The only times I could imagine a glued up piece being at
212F (hmmm... what's significant about that number?) would be a glued up
piece as a spoon used to stir something on a stove, or maybe as a rack in a
boil pot or a steamer.
I'm sure there was some test requirement that produces these results. I
just can't imagine (me at least) subjecting things to the extremes lots of
these tests go to. I don't know, maybe there isn't a lick of common sense
left in the world.
Ed
On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 19:44:08 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>[*] Not all that unusual, no matter how much we've paid for coffee
>makers. $50 or $500, it doesn't seem to matter so $50 it is.
I am not a coffee drinker, but here is the ultimate coffee maker.
If you have great disposable income.
https://goo.gl/paQXkK
It is Hammacherer Schlemmer.
On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 19:05:35 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 19:44:08 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>[*] Not all that unusual, no matter how much we've paid for coffee
>>makers. $50 or $500, it doesn't seem to matter so $50 it is.
>
>I am not a coffee drinker, but here is the ultimate coffee maker.
>If you have great disposable income.
>
>https://goo.gl/paQXkK
I like the box on order line of the page. ==> How many?
I think I'll take three. ;-)
>It is Hammacherer Schlemmer.
Wife said, "Yeah, no!"
"Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
>
> Yes, polyurethane glue. I think the significant factor in the previous
> discussion was water*proof*. I don't trust Titebond (type 1, 2, or 3) to
> go through the dishwasher.
>
> Ed
>
> Ed
I really don't think I would trust any wood to go through the dish washer.
It is bound to swell, shrink, and eventually split. the glue will probably
be only 1 of the problems going on inside a dishwasher.
"Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> LOL... I use cedar boards for cooking salmon now and then (they don't get
> so hot they burn and not glued up pieces) but I can't imagine making a
> glued up baking dish. The only times I could imagine a glued up piece
> being at 212F (hmmm... what's significant about that number?) ...
Glue chemistry is a bit more interesting than that (not that I know all that
much about it). PVAs polymerize as they cure, independently of simply losing
moisture, forming longer chains of, ummm, polymers. Adding water to cured
glue doesn't "dissolve" those chains. Steaming the wood, however, still has
the effect that steaming wood always had. I wonder why I never thought to
remodel the spoon handles though...
(Regarding a past conversation about gluing one side or both sides, I just
read my glue bottle. Titebond says to "Apply a heavy spread of glue to
surface and clamp". I always just put glue on the surface, but let the
squeeze out snot up the clamp. :D It also doesn't say one side or both
sides.)
In article <3107e2be-f490-432e-b744-f87df30c3da9@
40g2000prx.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
>
> I'd not count too much on the urethanes for long-term survival
> dishwasher use but they've a better chance and should last somewhat
> longer. If it's only a breadboard or somesuch w/o a lot of heavy
> effort in the construction, sure. Fancy multi-blank turned salad
> bowls or somesuch, I'd hate to risk the effort.
>
> all imo, $0.02, ymmv, etc., etc., etc., ..., of course... :)
>
No, well .... anybody who puts wooden cooking utensils into a dishwasher
deserves a spanking i.m.o. anyway. Brief immersion in hand-hot soapy
water is one thing, the extremes of the dishwasher environment are
something else entirely. In fact I'd trust few if any woods nor finishes
to stand up to that abuse for very long in any event. My sister-in-law's
knife handles bear witness to what I'm saying. A sorry warped, twisted,
buckled and clattering (e.g. loose rivets) mess. <shudders>
Incidentally, one glue I haven't seen mentioned here is the old Aerolite
308 which is one of the most temperature/water resistant glues I've
used. Not sure about food-save approval, it does contain formaldehyde to
start with. I used to use it for kitchen benches and tables that would
get wet and hot-wet and were only finished with oils ...
-P.
On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 19:05:35 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 19:44:08 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>[*] Not all that unusual, no matter how much we've paid for coffee
>>makers. $50 or $500, it doesn't seem to matter so $50 it is.
>
>I am not a coffee drinker, but here is the ultimate coffee maker.
>If you have great disposable income.
>
>https://goo.gl/paQXkK
>
>It is Hammacherer Schlemmer.
Call that the ultimate? Try a Jura super auto.
On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:24:07 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 10:16:57 AM UTC-4, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>> On Jul 23, 2018, [email protected] wrote
>> (in article<[email protected]>):
>>
>> > I am trying to fix coffee maker basket for 30 cup coffee maker.
>>
>> Coffeemaker baskets are usually made of polypropylene resin, which is a
>> thermoplastic. I bet the only way to fix the basket is to heat-weld the
>> cracked areas. Having some extra polypropylene stock to melt into the crack
>> may help.
>>
>> Joe Gwinn
>
>He could make a new one from corrugated plastic. All he needs is the
>right (and smaller) forms. ;-)
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ-rokeHgwY
My daughter has had good luck with various
customer service departments in recent years -
- receiving a free replacement part, on more-than-one occasion ;
and even getting a replacement appliance in one case -
just for asking nicely and explaining things honestly.
I recently received -free- 2 wheel assemblies for a piece of
luggage - just for asking nicely and sending a photo of the
shredded one. < I really only needed 1 wheel >
< unfortunately - I don't have access to an industrial rivet
machine to install the assembly .. duh. >
... still haven't got a round tuit replacing the wheel.
John T.
On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 9:42:11 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> I am trying to fix coffee maker basket for 30 cup coffee maker.
Are you stating a fact or asking for help?
Assuming there's a question in there someplace...
Metal or plastic?
How is it broken?
Perhaps a picture would help.
On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 8:25:35 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 19:05:35 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 19:44:08 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >>[*] Not all that unusual, no matter how much we've paid for coffee
> >>makers. $50 or $500, it doesn't seem to matter so $50 it is.
> >
> >I am not a coffee drinker, but here is the ultimate coffee maker.
> >If you have great disposable income.
> >
> >https://goo.gl/paQXkK
>
> I like the box on order line of the page. ==> How many?
>
> I think I'll take three. ;-)
>
> >It is Hammacherer Schlemmer.
>
> Wife said, "Yeah, no!"
My cold brew coffee maker consists of a 2 qt glass pitcher, cheese cloth,
an old Mr. Coffee basket and some coffee filters.
Each batch ends up being 1.5 quarts of kick-ass coffee concentrate that
goes down velvety smooth. We either mix equal parts coffee and water or
2/3 coffee - 1/3 water depending on how kick-ass we want at the time.
"Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> After the recent thread on food safe glue, I emailed Gorilla Glue and
> asked. They replied with a detailed message. Essentially, they said that
> while they haven't gone through the FDA approval process, it is already in
> use in Denmark making things like cutting boards and such. They go on to
> say it is completely non-toxic after curing. The only caveat is that if
> subjected to temperatures over 212F for over 4 hrs (at a time) may lead to
> joint failure once cooled.
>
> Ed
Which one of the Gorilla Brand glues are you talking about?
On Monday, January 12, 2009 at 11:27:03 AM UTC-7, Ed Edelenbos wrote:
> After the recent thread on food safe glue, I emailed Gorilla Glue and asked.
> They replied with a detailed message. Essentially, they said that while
> they haven't gone through the FDA approval process, it is already in use in
> Denmark making things like cutting boards and such. They go on to say it is
> completely non-toxic after curing. The only caveat is that if subjected to
> temperatures over 212F for over 4 hrs (at a time) may lead to joint failure
> once cooled.
>
> Ed
I used the Gorilla glue on a terracotta orchid pot and it blistered the Orchid. So I'm not sure it is food safe.
> No, well .... anybody who puts wooden cooking utensils into a dishwasher
> deserves a spanking i.m.o. anyway. Brief immersion in hand-hot soapy
> water is one thing, the extremes of the dishwasher environment are
> something else entirely. In fact I'd trust few if any woods nor finishes
> to stand up to that abuse for very long in any event. My sister-in-law's
> knife handles bear witness to what I'm saying. A sorry warped, twisted,
> buckled and clattering (e.g. loose rivets) mess. <shudders>
I agree with you... but...
I bought my wife a knife set with wood handles (Chicago Cutlery) shortly
after we were married (1975) I recently retired and started doing
things like emptying the dishwasher which I never did before and to my
horror, I found she was putting these superb knives with wooden handles
in the washer. Of course I complained about it and she said she has
always done it with no ill effects. There have been no ill effects, the
handles never had finish on them but they are in great shape after I
guess 32 + years. No warpage, no loose rivets, etc. I have no idea
what type of wood it is either, and I still shudder to think about
putting anything wood in the dishwasher but had to mention this.
--
Jack
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> I bought my wife a knife set with wood handles (Chicago Cutlery) shortly
> after we were married (1975) I recently retired and started doing
> things like emptying the dishwasher which I never did before and to my
> horror, I found she was putting these superb knives with wooden handles
> in the washer. Of course I complained about it and she said she has
> always done it with no ill effects. There have been no ill effects, the
> handles never had finish on them but they are in great shape after I
> guess 32 + years. No warpage, no loose rivets, etc. I have no idea
> what type of wood it is either, and I still shudder to think about
> putting anything wood in the dishwasher but had to mention this.
>
I hand clean our knives just because they seems to get dinged up in the
washer.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
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> Same story, same knives, but purchased about 5 years earlier. They seem
> to be indestructible.
>
> When I use one, I rinse it off by hand :-).
>
I saw a show in which the chef kept a pot of boiling water constantly on
the stove with a strainer basket. When he cut meat, he would set the
knife in the boiling water for a short time, before wiping it and
replacing it in the rack.
If you're going to hand wash after meat, make sure you clean with an
antimicrobial soap.
--
-MIKE-
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--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
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Morris Dovey wrote:
> Jack Stein wrote:
>
>> I have no idea what type of wood it is
>
> Walnut.
I think you're right, but whatever, this knife set has been through the
mill for more than 35 years. Not too much has survived all these years.
We bought a 100 year old round oak table at a house auction that I
refinished and it seats 12 with all the boards in. Wife paid $100 for
that which I complained about... boy was I dumb...
We bought a used set of Sears oak bedroom furniture from a guy that was
obviously and admittedly selling while his recent X was at work, still
in good shape...
and all my early 50's Rockwell Delta big iron stationary tools, in about
brand new condition (worlds biggest gloat, everyone would hate me if I
were to tell that tale). Not much else I can think of is still around,
other than us, and we are starting to wear around the edges...
--
Jack
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Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> If you're going to hand wash after meat, make sure you clean with an
>> antimicrobial soap.
>
> NO, NO, NO, NO, NO! All that stuff does is breed stronger bacteria. It
> should be taken off the market.
>
Ok, forget I wrote "antimicrobial soap."
If you're going to hand wash cutting knives after meat, make sure you
clean them with something that will adequately disinfect them.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
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"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Jan 12, 3:45 pm, "Ed Edelenbos" <[email protected]> wrote:
...
> Yes, polyurethane glue. I think the significant factor in the previous
> discussion was water*proof*. I don't trust Titebond (type 1, 2, or 3) to
> go
> through the dishwasher.
...
No, even ANSI Type I (Titebond "III") isn't rated for extreme
immersion. (It's easy to get cornfoozed between the numbers as the
Type I test Standard is the more severe while Titebond introduced
their Type II before Type III, I being implicitly already taken by the
existing "yellow" woodworkers glue)
No kidding, the test never mentions Water Proof in the body of the
description of the test, only in the title. Talk about deceptive claims.
On 7/23/2018 9:42 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> I am trying to fix coffee maker basket for 30 cup coffee maker.
>
That's great news. So many people just toss anything broken and buy
new. Fixing it will be good for the environment and the earth will be a
better place for generations, thanks to people like you.
Please update us on your project and how successful it is. You are to be
commened for tackling such a thing. Good luck with it.
On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 18:49:19 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:24:07 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 10:16:57 AM UTC-4, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 23, 2018, [email protected] wrote
>>> (in article<[email protected]>):
>>>
>>> > I am trying to fix coffee maker basket for 30 cup coffee maker.
>>>
>>> Coffeemaker baskets are usually made of polypropylene resin, which is a
>>> thermoplastic. I bet the only way to fix the basket is to heat-weld the
>>> cracked areas. Having some extra polypropylene stock to melt into the crack
>>> may help.
>>>
>>> Joe Gwinn
>>
>>He could make a new one from corrugated plastic. All he needs is the
>>right (and smaller) forms. ;-)
>>
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ-rokeHgwY
>
>
> My daughter has had good luck with various
>customer service departments in recent years -
>- receiving a free replacement part, on more-than-one occasion ;
> and even getting a replacement appliance in one case -
> just for asking nicely and explaining things honestly.
>I recently received -free- 2 wheel assemblies for a piece of
>luggage - just for asking nicely and sending a photo of the
>shredded one. < I really only needed 1 wheel >
> < unfortunately - I don't have access to an industrial rivet
>machine to install the assembly .. duh. >
> ... still haven't got a round tuit replacing the wheel.
Exasperated with yet another dead coffee maker (display LCD died), she
posted a nasty review on Amazon. We really like the coffee it makes
but it only lasted six months[*]. Mr. Coffee contacted her and
offered to send her a new one. Nice. I asked why she didn't tell
them that the one (same model) I have at work has the exact same
problem (though I don't need the display).
[*] Not all that unusual, no matter how much we've paid for coffee
makers. $50 or $500, it doesn't seem to matter so $50 it is.
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:27:03 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>After the recent thread on food safe glue, I emailed Gorilla Glue and asked.
>They replied with a detailed message. Essentially, they said that while
>they haven't gone through the FDA approval process, it is already in use in
>Denmark making things like cutting boards and such. They go on to say it is
>completely non-toxic after curing. The only caveat is that if subjected to
>temperatures over 212F for over 4 hrs (at a time) may lead to joint failure
>once cooled.
>
>Ed
While not a test for being "non-toxic," I look at the list of
ingrediants and look for any toxic elements. Some glues contain
arsenic. Of course, burning a non-toxic compound yields all sorts of
complex compounds--which might kill a pet bird or make a human sick.
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:54:50 -0600, -MIKE- wrote:
>
> If you're going to hand wash after meat, make sure you clean with an
> antimicrobial soap.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO! All that stuff does is breed stronger bacteria. It
should be taken off the market.
Besides, I was 9 or 10 before antibiotics became available and I drank
water out of the Ohio River before they cleaned it up. My immune system
hasn't yet seen a digestive system bug it couldn't lick with one hand
tied behind its back :-).
BTW, when the antibiotics (penicillin) did come out, I was allergic to it.
--
It's turtles, all the way down
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 20:27:47 -0400, J. Clarke
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 19:05:35 -0500, Markem <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 19:44:08 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>[*] Not all that unusual, no matter how much we've paid for coffee
>>>makers. $50 or $500, it doesn't seem to matter so $50 it is.
>>
>>I am not a coffee drinker, but here is the ultimate coffee maker.
>>If you have great disposable income.
>>
>>https://goo.gl/paQXkK
>>
>>It is Hammacherer Schlemmer.
>
>Call that the ultimate? Try a Jura super auto.
No the ultimate would be Star Trek tech that makes coffee out of
energy. So excuse me.
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:59:22 -0500, Jack Stein wrote:
> I bought my wife a knife set with wood handles (Chicago Cutlery) shortly
> after we were married (1975) I recently retired and started doing
> things like emptying the dishwasher which I never did before and to my
> horror, I found she was putting these superb knives with wooden handles
> in the washer. Of course I complained about it and she said she has
> always done it with no ill effects.
Same story, same knives, but purchased about 5 years earlier. They seem
to be indestructible.
When I use one, I rinse it off by hand :-).
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