Hl

"Highspeed"

20/03/2005 9:44 PM

How would you set it up?

I have a dilemma in my shop. I don't know the best way to set it up. The
space it 16'x9' and it has to contain several items, some of which hang on
the wall. Walls are only 7' high, and the floor is very uneven as it slopes
to one side due to the age of the home. I do

1. Tablesaw (on mobile base), 61"w x 41"d
2. Router table (wall mounted) 30"w x 24d
3. Mitre Saw (wall mounted) 22"w x 20"d
4. Drill Press (10" bench top) 16"w 20"d
5. Bench (with tail vise extended) 57"w 25"d
6. Thickness planer (mobile) 28"w x 16"d
7. Cabinet (free standing) 36"w x20"d
8. Shelving rack (free standing) 48"w x 24"d

I also have a lumber storage rack that I built from plans in Wood Magazine.
This rack is about 64"w and sticks out from the wall 16" but can be
shortened. I was on the Grizzly web site tonight trying to sort it out but
I really have no idea what I am doing or what the best way to arrange it is!
I would also like to plan for a 6" x 47" jointer so that when it does arrive
I don't need to re-plan the whole shop. Any ideas would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,

Lars


This topic has 14 replies

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Highspeed" on 20/03/2005 9:44 PM

21/03/2005 12:10 PM

The table saw is usually centrally located so you can pass a sheet of
ply through it. The jointer (if you have one) should be nearby the
table saw. If your bench is the same height as the table saw, you're
in luck, as stock can be supported or pass over it. If you have a
window, put your sharpening center or grinder there to get natural
light. With everything else, fill in the spaces. As you use your
tools you will move them around to find the best location. I moved my
bandsaw and drill press a few times before they found the best spot.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:44:21 -0500, "Highspeed"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have a dilemma in my shop. I don't know the best way to set it up. The
>space it 16'x9' and it has to contain several items, some of which hang on
>the wall. Walls are only 7' high, and the floor is very uneven as it slopes
>to one side due to the age of the home. I do
>
>1. Tablesaw (on mobile base), 61"w x 41"d
>2. Router table (wall mounted) 30"w x 24d
>3. Mitre Saw (wall mounted) 22"w x 20"d
>4. Drill Press (10" bench top) 16"w 20"d
>5. Bench (with tail vise extended) 57"w 25"d
>6. Thickness planer (mobile) 28"w x 16"d
>7. Cabinet (free standing) 36"w x20"d
>8. Shelving rack (free standing) 48"w x 24"d
>
>I also have a lumber storage rack that I built from plans in Wood Magazine.
>This rack is about 64"w and sticks out from the wall 16" but can be
>shortened. I was on the Grizzly web site tonight trying to sort it out but
>I really have no idea what I am doing or what the best way to arrange it is!
>I would also like to plan for a 6" x 47" jointer so that when it does arrive
>I don't need to re-plan the whole shop. Any ideas would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Lars
>

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "Highspeed" on 20/03/2005 9:44 PM

21/03/2005 8:27 AM


"Highspeed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1111373061.382ebb34f24f2e0435016a6236a0d24a@teranews...
> I have a dilemma in my shop. I don't know the best way to set it up. The
> space it 16'x9' and it has to contain several items, some of which hang on
> the wall. Walls are only 7' high, and the floor is very uneven as it
slopes
> to one side due to the age of the home. I do
>

Store it where it will fit, place it where you need it.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

ss

skeezics

in reply to "Highspeed" on 20/03/2005 9:44 PM

22/03/2005 6:57 PM

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:11:05 -0500, "Highspeed"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected]

done.

FA

Frank A <"fdjunk at comcast dot net">

in reply to "Highspeed" on 20/03/2005 9:44 PM

20/03/2005 10:32 PM

Highspeed wrote:
> I have a dilemma in my shop. I don't know the best way to set it up. The
> space it 16'x9' and it has to contain several items, some of which hang on
> the wall. Walls are only 7' high, and the floor is very uneven as it slopes
> to one side due to the age of the home. I do
>
> 1. Tablesaw (on mobile base), 61"w x 41"d
> 2. Router table (wall mounted) 30"w x 24d
> 3. Mitre Saw (wall mounted) 22"w x 20"d
> 4. Drill Press (10" bench top) 16"w 20"d
> 5. Bench (with tail vise extended) 57"w 25"d
> 6. Thickness planer (mobile) 28"w x 16"d
> 7. Cabinet (free standing) 36"w x20"d
> 8. Shelving rack (free standing) 48"w x 24"d
>
> I also have a lumber storage rack that I built from plans in Wood Magazine.
> This rack is about 64"w and sticks out from the wall 16" but can be
> shortened. I was on the Grizzly web site tonight trying to sort it out but
> I really have no idea what I am doing or what the best way to arrange it is!
> I would also like to plan for a 6" x 47" jointer so that when it does arrive
> I don't need to re-plan the whole shop. Any ideas would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lars
>
>
Funny you mention Wood mag. They have a "modular" small-shop
organization system in the current (april/may) issue.
There's a grid that you "frame out" your workspace in the "patterns"
section of the mag with little tools (to scale) that you cut out so you
can place them on the grid. I was hooked when I saw the article. Turns
out, they organized some dude's workshop for less than $850 (includes
retail bought lumber rack, roller bases for two machines, and handbuilt
cabinets, mitre-saw station, sheet goods rack, storage systems, etc.
You should check it out...

--
Frank A
fdjunk a7 c0mca57 d0t n3t

ss

skeezics

in reply to "Highspeed" on 20/03/2005 9:44 PM

22/03/2005 7:12 PM

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:57:39 GMT, skeezics <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:11:05 -0500, "Highspeed"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>[email protected]
>
>done.

email bounced.
i will try again. or you can email me at [email protected] and
i will reply that way.

skeez

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "Highspeed" on 20/03/2005 9:44 PM

21/03/2005 3:30 PM

Highspeed wrote:
> I have a dilemma in my shop. I don't know the best way to set it up.
> The space it 16'x9' and it has to contain several items, some of
> which hang on the wall. Walls are only 7' high, and the floor is
> very uneven as it slopes to one side due to the age of the home. I do
>
> 1. Tablesaw (on mobile base), 61"w x 41"d
> 2. Router table (wall mounted) 30"w x 24d
> 3. Mitre Saw (wall mounted) 22"w x 20"d
> 4. Drill Press (10" bench top) 16"w 20"d
> 5. Bench (with tail vise extended) 57"w 25"d
> 6. Thickness planer (mobile) 28"w x 16"d
> 7. Cabinet (free standing) 36"w x20"d
> 8. Shelving rack (free standing) 48"w x 24"d
>
> I also have a lumber storage rack that I built from plans in Wood
> Magazine. This rack is about 64"w and sticks out from the wall 16"
> but can be shortened. I was on the Grizzly web site tonight trying
> to sort it out but I really have no idea what I am doing or what the
> best way to arrange it is! I would also like to plan for a 6" x 47"
> jointer so that when it does arrive I don't need to re-plan the whole
> shop. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

For your first project, add onto your shop so it is 16x27 at the least.
I'm being semi-facetious but really, in a shop the existing size - with
what you have and will add - you'll be hard pressed to be able to work
effectively. For example, you would need every inch of the length to
rip an 8' piece of wood. And I'm not sure you even could in 16'.

The ideal shop, IMO, is one that flows from stock area to finish area.
Just how it "flows" depends on how you work. In my case, I like to do
all rough crosscuts first; consequently, there is easy access from
lumber to radial saw.

Next, I reduce thickness via a drum sander (it also does a decent enough
job for me of joining the faces), then join an edge and finally rip with
table saw. After that is any table router work, then finishing.

My shop is 24X20. Stock is kept at one end. Tools are arranged, along
the 24' dimension thusly:

Right side
4'x16"x6' supply cabinet
radial saw
4'x16"x6' supply cabinet

Center
panel saw
shop vac
16-32" drum sander
router table

Left side
lathe
band saw
joiner
floor drill press
All except lathe are mounted on castered platforms so I can pull them
out from the wall to work on longer pieces. Same is true of router
table and drum sander

Along the short wall opposite the stock wall are a sink and a 12 drawer
hand tool table 72x24x36.

Also in this area are two caster mounted tables (2x4s, 3/4 ply tops)
each of which are 48"x12"xabout 38" tall. They can be pushed together
to double the size either in width or length. I have found them very
handy...I use them to assemble (top is arranged with an overhang so
stock can be clamped to it, area below the top holds clamps), to rest
stuff on that I am shooting through whatever machine, etc. They have
been *extremely* handy.

If I ever rebuild those two tables, I'll make at least one of them so I
can flop it 90 degrees to have a low platform on which to set taller
stuff while working on same.

--
dadiOH
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Jj

"Jeff"

in reply to "Highspeed" on 20/03/2005 9:44 PM

20/03/2005 10:34 PM

LOL, oops, I just read your post more closely - you already know about the
Grizzly site. Sorry about that!!


"Jeff" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Check this out - if the link doesn't work, go to grizzly.com and look for
> their shop planner.
>
> http://www.grizzly.com/workshopplanner.cfm?&gid=54B6F26F-544B-49CC-84ED-F7D5AD770B6E&site=grizzly
>
> JET
>
>
>
> "Highspeed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1111373061.382ebb34f24f2e0435016a6236a0d24a@teranews...
>>I have a dilemma in my shop. I don't know the best way to set it up. The
>>space it 16'x9' and it has to contain several items, some of which hang on
>>the wall. Walls are only 7' high, and the floor is very uneven as it
>>slopes to one side due to the age of the home. I do
>>
>> 1. Tablesaw (on mobile base), 61"w x 41"d
>> 2. Router table (wall mounted) 30"w x 24d
>> 3. Mitre Saw (wall mounted) 22"w x 20"d
>> 4. Drill Press (10" bench top) 16"w 20"d
>> 5. Bench (with tail vise extended) 57"w 25"d
>> 6. Thickness planer (mobile) 28"w x 16"d
>> 7. Cabinet (free standing) 36"w x20"d
>> 8. Shelving rack (free standing) 48"w x 24"d
>>
>> I also have a lumber storage rack that I built from plans in Wood
>> Magazine. This rack is about 64"w and sticks out from the wall 16" but
>> can be shortened. I was on the Grizzly web site tonight trying to sort
>> it out but I really have no idea what I am doing or what the best way to
>> arrange it is! I would also like to plan for a 6" x 47" jointer so that
>> when it does arrive I don't need to re-plan the whole shop. Any ideas
>> would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lars
>>
>
>

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "Highspeed" on 20/03/2005 9:44 PM

21/03/2005 9:30 AM

Bob G. <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 04:22:19 -0600, Unisaw A-100
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Put things where the appear to work best. In a week, tweak
>>it. In a month, tweak it some more. Rinse and repeat as
>>often as needed.
>>
>>UA100, who after five years moved his drill press...
> =======================
> HELL>... after 30 + years in the same shop building I have NOT moved
> a single tool since....> one day last week... It never ends
>
> But UA100 is correct ... only method is to use the shop and constantly
> make adjustments...
>

Stuff gets moved in my shop whenever I work on a new project, or move to a
different phase. I can only do big projects in good weather, because stuff
has to go to the outside annex, where the vehicles normally park. They
never get into the former garage.

That reminds me. I have wheels to put on the bandsaw.

Patriarch

Hl

"Highspeed"

in reply to "Highspeed" on 20/03/2005 9:44 PM

22/03/2005 10:11 AM

maybe you could email it to me, or post to your web space. My email addy is
correct just remove "dot". Thanks everyone for your help. I have posted
pics of the current situation here http://www3.sympatico.ca/amylars.


"skeezics" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:44:21 -0500, "Highspeed"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I have a dilemma in my shop. I don't know the best way to set it up. The
>>space it 16'x9' and it has to contain several items, some of which hang on
>>the wall. Walls are only 7' high, and the floor is very uneven as it
>>slopes
>>to one side due to the age of the home. I do
>>
>>1. Tablesaw (on mobile base), 61"w x 41"d
>>2. Router table (wall mounted) 30"w x 24d
>>3. Mitre Saw (wall mounted) 22"w x 20"d
>>4. Drill Press (10" bench top) 16"w 20"d
>>5. Bench (with tail vise extended) 57"w 25"d
>>6. Thickness planer (mobile) 28"w x 16"d
>>7. Cabinet (free standing) 36"w x20"d
>>8. Shelving rack (free standing) 48"w x 24"d
>>
>>I also have a lumber storage rack that I built from plans in Wood
>>Magazine.
>>This rack is about 64"w and sticks out from the wall 16" but can be
>>shortened. I was on the Grizzly web site tonight trying to sort it out
>>but
>>I really have no idea what I am doing or what the best way to arrange it
>>is!
>>I would also like to plan for a 6" x 47" jointer so that when it does
>>arrive
>>I don't need to re-plan the whole shop. Any ideas would be greatly
>>appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Lars
>>
>
> i got a copy of easyshop design i can post in abpw if ya like. its a
> fre3e program so no copyrite infringement to wory about. not sure
> where i got it but it works good. let me know.
>
> skeez

UA

Unisaw A-100

in reply to "Highspeed" on 20/03/2005 9:44 PM

21/03/2005 4:22 AM

Put things where the appear to work best. In a week, tweak
it. In a month, tweak it some more. Rinse and repeat as
often as needed.

UA100, who after five years moved his drill press...

ss

skeezics

in reply to "Highspeed" on 20/03/2005 9:44 PM

21/03/2005 5:06 PM

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:44:21 -0500, "Highspeed"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have a dilemma in my shop. I don't know the best way to set it up. The
>space it 16'x9' and it has to contain several items, some of which hang on
>the wall. Walls are only 7' high, and the floor is very uneven as it slopes
>to one side due to the age of the home. I do
>
>1. Tablesaw (on mobile base), 61"w x 41"d
>2. Router table (wall mounted) 30"w x 24d
>3. Mitre Saw (wall mounted) 22"w x 20"d
>4. Drill Press (10" bench top) 16"w 20"d
>5. Bench (with tail vise extended) 57"w 25"d
>6. Thickness planer (mobile) 28"w x 16"d
>7. Cabinet (free standing) 36"w x20"d
>8. Shelving rack (free standing) 48"w x 24"d
>
>I also have a lumber storage rack that I built from plans in Wood Magazine.
>This rack is about 64"w and sticks out from the wall 16" but can be
>shortened. I was on the Grizzly web site tonight trying to sort it out but
>I really have no idea what I am doing or what the best way to arrange it is!
>I would also like to plan for a 6" x 47" jointer so that when it does arrive
>I don't need to re-plan the whole shop. Any ideas would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Lars
>

i got a copy of easyshop design i can post in abpw if ya like. its a
fre3e program so no copyrite infringement to wory about. not sure
where i got it but it works good. let me know.

skeez

Jj

"Jeff"

in reply to "Highspeed" on 20/03/2005 9:44 PM

20/03/2005 10:01 PM

Check this out - if the link doesn't work, go to grizzly.com and look for
their shop planner.

http://www.grizzly.com/workshopplanner.cfm?&gid=54B6F26F-544B-49CC-84ED-F7D5AD770B6E&site=grizzly

JET



"Highspeed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1111373061.382ebb34f24f2e0435016a6236a0d24a@teranews...
>I have a dilemma in my shop. I don't know the best way to set it up. The
>space it 16'x9' and it has to contain several items, some of which hang on
>the wall. Walls are only 7' high, and the floor is very uneven as it
>slopes to one side due to the age of the home. I do
>
> 1. Tablesaw (on mobile base), 61"w x 41"d
> 2. Router table (wall mounted) 30"w x 24d
> 3. Mitre Saw (wall mounted) 22"w x 20"d
> 4. Drill Press (10" bench top) 16"w 20"d
> 5. Bench (with tail vise extended) 57"w 25"d
> 6. Thickness planer (mobile) 28"w x 16"d
> 7. Cabinet (free standing) 36"w x20"d
> 8. Shelving rack (free standing) 48"w x 24"d
>
> I also have a lumber storage rack that I built from plans in Wood
> Magazine. This rack is about 64"w and sticks out from the wall 16" but can
> be shortened. I was on the Grizzly web site tonight trying to sort it out
> but I really have no idea what I am doing or what the best way to arrange
> it is! I would also like to plan for a 6" x 47" jointer so that when it
> does arrive I don't need to re-plan the whole shop. Any ideas would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lars
>

ss

skeezics

in reply to "Highspeed" on 20/03/2005 9:44 PM

22/03/2005 7:15 PM

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:12:06 GMT, skeezics <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:57:39 GMT, skeezics <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:11:05 -0500, "Highspeed"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>[email protected]
>>
>>done.
>
>email bounced.
>i will try again. or you can email me at [email protected] and
>i will reply that way.
>
>skeez

tried it two more ways. dont know if it will bounce or not.
im gonna post it in ABPW also.

skeez

BG

Bob G.

in reply to "Highspeed" on 20/03/2005 9:44 PM

21/03/2005 9:52 AM

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 04:22:19 -0600, Unisaw A-100
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Put things where the appear to work best. In a week, tweak
>it. In a month, tweak it some more. Rinse and repeat as
>often as needed.
>
>UA100, who after five years moved his drill press...
=======================
HELL>... after 30 + years in the same shop building I have NOT moved
a single tool since....> one day last week... It never ends

But UA100 is correct ... only method is to use the shop and constantly
make adjustments...

When I first started in the Hobby I honestly had NO room for a
workbench so I had to use the top of my Tablesaw as one... Really was
not too bad.. it worked but I never did find a way to mount a vise..

Bob Griffiths


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