Folks,
Can someone tell me the difference between the Dewalt 51844 and the
51845 air drive nailers? (These are the full head, 20degree models).
About the only difference I can see is the color of the magazine
(xxx44 has black, xxx45 has silver). Specs seem the same. Any
clarification?
Also, any experience with the 'factory refurb' models? Fixing to get
started with a shop construction project and figured this makes sense
- but after that, use will be occasional, so maybe saving a few
dollars would make sense. Advise respectfully requested.
(Then again, if these nailers are 'dogs', any enlightenment there
would be appreciated, as well).
Thanks in advance,
-- john.
Leon wrote:
> A little word of advice here. I just bought a new Framing nailer and had
> moderate experience with a gas operated Paslode. I own 4 other guns that I
> have had up to 18 years so I am not new to nail guns. Nailshooter has a
> wealth of knowledge concerning framing nailers as he owns and has owned
> quite a few through out the past years. (clipped)
> I went with a Bostitch nailer as per Nailshooter's recommendation. Still
> American made and now has a 7 year limited warranty. Cheap too, by
> comparison. I could have gotten one on Amazon for $169.00 but went local
> and paid $30 more for that piece of mind of buying from the repair and
> supply company.
> The gun performed faultlessly on its first job shooting some 800-900 nails.
> Something to think about.
>
>
For several years a part of my duties was to unjam / repair / rebuild
industrial staplers and I'd climb over a pallet full of other brands to
get to a Bostich. Other brands would require a 10-15 minute tear down to
clear a jam. Bostich could be back in business in roughly 30-60 seconds.
Other brands were notorious for jamming under even light duty. I had
roughly 30 Bostich staplers on the floor and 2-3 from other brands. I'd
see the others in my repair station more often than the Bostichs. As
quickly as I could in good conscience discard the other brands, I did.
If the cast housing on a Bostich isn't broken, it's probably repairable.
Ninety percent of the time 'repair' was little more than a tear-down,
clean up and re-assemble.
Don't over tighten the chamber head screws (brittle casting) and do lay
in a small supply of the driving pistons. The staple advance spring
could come undone but, unless you are a putz, it will go back on easily
enough. I'm guessing that the nailers are about the same quality as the
staplers. If so, there really isn't any other brand that I could recommend.
Bill
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him really know what he's talking about.
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jcatora wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Can someone tell me the difference between the Dewalt 51844 and the
> 51845 air drive nailers? (These are the full head, 20degree models).
> About the only difference I can see is the color of the magazine
> (xxx44 has black, xxx45 has silver). Specs seem the same. Any
> clarification?
>
I see a couple of differences:
51844
Jam Clearing Requires 5mm or 3/16" Allen Key
Integrated Rafter Hook No
51845
Jam Clearing Tool-free
Integrated Rafter Hook Yes
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
Patriarch wrote:
> "jcatora" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1172973300.773003.184290@
> 64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com:
>> Also, any experience with the 'factory refurb' models? Fixing to get
>> started with a shop construction project and figured this makes sense
>> - but after that, use will be occasional, so maybe saving a few
>> dollars would make sense. Advise respectfully requested.
Like Patriarch, I too have Porter-Cable air nailers though not the
framer - yet!<g>
I'd address your query about refurbished though.
Here's how I view it:
New - Most get a cursory inspection as they roll off the line; few get
detailed checking, i.e. disassembly, etc. to check to make sure
everything is just right. These have a warranty.
Refurbished - Most likely made it past the inspectors, failed and got
sent back for "retraining/reeducation"<g> These units, before they
return to the general population, face the scrutiny and attention of one
or two folks whose sole job it is to make sure they function properly.
Most often, these also carry the standard warranty.
For my money, minor cosmetic blemishes and the "stigma" of being used
notwithstanding, I'll take the refurbed unit at the inevitable discount
over brand new on any day of the week.
"jcatora" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Folks,
>
> Can someone tell me the difference between the Dewalt 51844 and the
> 51845 air drive nailers? (These are the full head, 20degree models).
> About the only difference I can see is the color of the magazine
> (xxx44 has black, xxx45 has silver). Specs seem the same. Any
> clarification?
>
> Also, any experience with the 'factory refurb' models? Fixing to get
> started with a shop construction project and figured this makes sense
> - but after that, use will be occasional, so maybe saving a few
> dollars would make sense. Advise respectfully requested.
>
> (Then again, if these nailers are 'dogs', any enlightenment there
> would be appreciated, as well).
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -- john.
Take this for what it's worth, but in discussions I've read regarding
framing nailers, I seem to hear a lot of bad talk about the Dewalts. I own a
Porter-Cable FC350, which is a clipped-head nailer. It has a problem with
not feeding nails that I haven't solved. (I also have a PC coil roofing
nailer that works just fine).When I framed my garage, my carpentry
contractor friend and a couple of his carpenters came over to help. The pro
carpenters said they liked Bostich the best. I had my dad's Bostich framer
and had no problems with it at all.
todd
"jcatora" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1172973300.773003.184290@
64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com:
> Folks,
>
> Can someone tell me the difference between the Dewalt 51844 and the
> 51845 air drive nailers? (These are the full head, 20degree models).
> About the only difference I can see is the color of the magazine
> (xxx44 has black, xxx45 has silver). Specs seem the same. Any
> clarification?
>
> Also, any experience with the 'factory refurb' models? Fixing to get
> started with a shop construction project and figured this makes sense
> - but after that, use will be occasional, so maybe saving a few
> dollars would make sense. Advise respectfully requested.
>
> (Then again, if these nailers are 'dogs', any enlightenment there
> would be appreciated, as well).
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -- john.
>
>
I've used a Porter Cable FR350 full head nailer for the same type of use
- building out framing in a shed, a fencing project, garage shelving,
rejoisting part of the living room floor. It worked well. And it was
cheap! The neighbor (who started me on the wooddorking habit, BTW) had
one that he loaned me, with all the nails anyone could ever need. Even
wheeled the bigger compressor and longer, better air hose over. (he's a
gloatable guy, too.)
But we've seen these refurbed (this one was) at the woodshows for very
reasonable prices. Probably online, too. AllPro Tools, maybe?
Patriarch
"jcatora" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Folks,
>
> Can someone tell me the difference between the Dewalt 51844 and the
> 51845 air drive nailers? (These are the full head, 20degree models).
> About the only difference I can see is the color of the magazine
> (xxx44 has black, xxx45 has silver). Specs seem the same. Any
> clarification?
>
> Also, any experience with the 'factory refurb' models? Fixing to get
> started with a shop construction project and figured this makes sense
> - but after that, use will be occasional, so maybe saving a few
> dollars would make sense. Advise respectfully requested.
>
> (Then again, if these nailers are 'dogs', any enlightenment there
> would be appreciated, as well).
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -- john.
>
A little word of advice here. I just bought a new Framing nailer and had
moderate experience with a gas operated Paslode. I own 4 other guns that I
have had up to 18 years so I am not new to nail guns. Nailshooter has a
wealth of knowledge concerning framing nailers as he owns and has owned
quite a few through out the past years. I have noticed that every one has
hopped on the band wagon and offer their won bagged line of nailers. I
would be leery of the new kid on the block brands. If they have not been
building guns for 8 to 10 years I did not really consider them for serious
consideration.
There are numerous factors to consider when purchasing a Framing gun.
Unlike most all other type guns you have to consider and choose whether to
go with wire, paper, or plastic collated, full or clipped head, single shot
or bump fire, power to drive long nails in a variety of materials, and the
list goes on.
I went with a Bostitch nailer as per Nailshooter's recommendation. Still
American made and now has a 7 year limited warranty. Cheap too, by
comparison. I could have gotten one on Amazon for $169.00 but went local
and paid $30 more for that piece of mind of buying from the repair and
supply company.
The gun performed faultlessly on its first job shooting some 800-900 nails.
Something to think about.