Jj

Jim

25/02/2004 4:54 AM

Need recommendation on a book on planes

My grandfather gave me several planes that his father had used and a couple
that he knew that HIS grandfather had used. After cleaning them up and
sharpening the blades (amazing how little some of that old iron rusts) I
have the "normal" planes (adjustment knob and blade mounted to an iron
plate which is mounted to a piece of wood) working ok, but I don't have a
clue how to referbish or even use the old wood planes.

Can anyone recommend a decent book on the use/care/restoration of planes?

Although I haven't given up on my power tools by any means, I have found
that I am enjoying using a nice sharp plane for some tasks. Who knew those
things were more than pretty shop nick-nacks ;)

Thanks,
Jim


This topic has 14 replies

Rb

"RWM"

in reply to Jim on 25/02/2004 4:54 AM

24/02/2004 9:28 PM


"Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My grandfather gave me several planes that his father had used and a
couple
> that he knew that HIS grandfather had used. After cleaning them up and
> sharpening the blades (amazing how little some of that old iron rusts) I
> have the "normal" planes (adjustment knob and blade mounted to an iron
> plate which is mounted to a piece of wood) working ok, but I don't have a
> clue how to referbish or even use the old wood planes.
>
> Can anyone recommend a decent book on the use/care/restoration of planes?
>
> Although I haven't given up on my power tools by any means, I have found
> that I am enjoying using a nice sharp plane for some tasks. Who knew
those
> things were more than pretty shop nick-nacks ;)
>
> Thanks,
> Jim

How about the Hand Plane book by Garret Hack.

Bob McBreen

di

dave in fairfax

in reply to Jim on 25/02/2004 4:54 AM

26/02/2004 2:41 AM

Jim wrote:
> My grandfather gave me several planes that his father had used and a couple
> that he knew that HIS grandfather had used. After cleaning them up and
> sharpening the blades (amazing how little some of that old iron rusts) I
> have the "normal" planes (adjustment knob and blade mounted to an iron
> plate which is mounted to a piece of wood) working ok, but I don't have a
> clue how to referbish or even use the old wood planes.
> Although I haven't given up on my power tools by any means, I have found
> that I am enjoying using a nice sharp plane for some tasks. Who knew those
> things were more than pretty shop nick-nacks ;)

Assuming that this isn't a troll, or a drive-by. That metal
bodied planes were you left. Take a look at
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0.htm and try matching them
to pictures if you don't know much about planes, although if
you've got them sharpened up and working properly it would seem
that you do. Regardless, congratulations on the heirlooms and
keeping them in the family, and working.

Dave in Fairfax
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"George"

in reply to Jim on 25/02/2004 4:54 AM

25/02/2004 6:29 AM

http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0.htm

http://www.amgron.clara.net/

Of course, you could also get a book.

"Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My grandfather gave me several planes that his father had used and a
couple
> that he knew that HIS grandfather had used. After cleaning them up and
> sharpening the blades (amazing how little some of that old iron rusts) I
> have the "normal" planes (adjustment knob and blade mounted to an iron
> plate which is mounted to a piece of wood) working ok, but I don't have a
> clue how to referbish or even use the old wood planes.
>
> Can anyone recommend a decent book on the use/care/restoration of planes?
>
> Although I haven't given up on my power tools by any means, I have found
> that I am enjoying using a nice sharp plane for some tasks. Who knew
those
> things were more than pretty shop nick-nacks ;)
>
> Thanks,
> Jim

cC

[email protected] (Conan the Librarian)

in reply to Jim on 25/02/2004 4:54 AM

26/02/2004 6:24 AM

Jim <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> Can anyone recommend a decent book on the use/care/restoration of planes?

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Michael Dunbar's _Restoring,
Tuning and Using Classic Woodworking Tools_. Hack's book and
Patrick's website are better sources of info on the various types of
planes, but Dunbar is probably better on the nuts-and-bolts of getting
the things to work.


Chuck Vance

wH

[email protected] (Hylourgos)

in reply to Jim on 25/02/2004 4:54 AM

26/02/2004 11:16 AM

Jim,

Lately I've been impressed by David Finck's book, Making and Mastering
Wood Planes. It's now out of print, but most libraries can get a copy
through Interlibrary Loan.

Regards,
H

Jim <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> My grandfather gave me several planes that his father had used and a couple
> that he knew that HIS grandfather had used. After cleaning them up and
> sharpening the blades (amazing how little some of that old iron rusts) I
> have the "normal" planes (adjustment knob and blade mounted to an iron
> plate which is mounted to a piece of wood) working ok, but I don't have a
> clue how to referbish or even use the old wood planes.
>
> Can anyone recommend a decent book on the use/care/restoration of planes?
>
> Although I haven't given up on my power tools by any means, I have found
> that I am enjoying using a nice sharp plane for some tasks. Who knew those
> things were more than pretty shop nick-nacks ;)
>
> Thanks,
> Jim

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to Jim on 25/02/2004 4:54 AM

25/02/2004 2:08 PM


"Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> My grandfather gave me several planes that his father had used

Several planes? Damn, you are lucky. All I ever got was a ride in a Piper
Tri-Pacer and a J-3. Never got to own a single plane let alone be left
several of them. .
Ed

Jj

Jim

in reply to Jim on 25/02/2004 4:54 AM

26/02/2004 5:01 AM

Bob,
I had seen some positive reviews of this book, but it didn't look like
there was much on the USE of planes and how to use the various types of
planes. Of course I was only looking at the screen shots on Amazon.

Does the book cover this?

Thanks,
jim
"RWM" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:


>
> How about the Hand Plane book by Garret Hack.
>
> Bob McBreen
>
>
>

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Jim on 26/02/2004 5:01 AM

26/02/2004 10:52 AM

Jim asks:

>I had seen some positive reviews of this book, but it didn't look like
>there was much on the USE of planes and how to use the various types of
>planes. Of course I was only looking at the screen shots on Amazon.
>
>Does the book cover this?

Sure does. Chapter 5 covers techniques.

Charlie Self
I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

Jj

Jim

in reply to Jim on 25/02/2004 4:54 AM

27/02/2004 4:13 AM

Thanks chuck/mike/charlie!
I think I'll buy both.

Jim


[email protected] (Mike) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> [email protected] (Conan the Librarian) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> Jim <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:<[email protected]>...
>>
>> > Can anyone recommend a decent book on the use/care/restoration of
>> > planes?
>>
>> I'm surprised no one has mentioned Michael Dunbar's _Restoring,
>> Tuning and Using Classic Woodworking Tools_. Hack's book and
>> Patrick's website are better sources of info on the various types of
>> planes, but Dunbar is probably better on the nuts-and-bolts of
>> getting the things to work.
>
> I agree. Most resources concentrate on tuning Bailey style planes but
> Dunbar's book devotes a large section to tuning and using wooden
> planes (both bench and specialty). He also spends time on the iron
> planes so you get help with that as well.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike

Jj

Jim

in reply to Jim on 25/02/2004 4:54 AM

26/02/2004 5:05 AM

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:D%1%[email protected]:

>
> "Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> My grandfather gave me several planes that his father had used
>
> Several planes? Damn, you are lucky. All I ever got was a ride in a
> Piper Tri-Pacer and a J-3. Never got to own a single plane let alone
> be left several of them. .
> Ed
>
>
>
Well that is EXACTLY the problem Ed. There are several and for the life
of me I can't figure out where to attach the wings or even sit! I have
to admit it is kind of fun sitting on them and yelling CLEAR but it isn't
all that productive....and my kids keep giving me funny looks.

hM

in reply to Jim on 25/02/2004 4:54 AM

26/02/2004 5:20 PM

[email protected] (Conan the Librarian) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Jim <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> > Can anyone recommend a decent book on the use/care/restoration of planes?
>
> I'm surprised no one has mentioned Michael Dunbar's _Restoring,
> Tuning and Using Classic Woodworking Tools_. Hack's book and
> Patrick's website are better sources of info on the various types of
> planes, but Dunbar is probably better on the nuts-and-bolts of getting
> the things to work.

I agree. Most resources concentrate on tuning Bailey style planes but
Dunbar's book devotes a large section to tuning and using wooden
planes (both bench and specialty). He also spends time on the iron
planes so you get help with that as well.

Cheers,
Mike

Bn

Bridger

in reply to Jim on 25/02/2004 4:54 AM

26/02/2004 9:28 AM

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 05:11:50 GMT, Jim <[email protected]> wrote:


>Of course since they have been in the family so long, I'm kind of glad
>they aren't worth much. Doesn't even tempt me into selling them!
>My main goal is to put them back into proper working order and figure out
>the proper way to use them. Given the limited knowledge I have right now
>I already like them but, in general, I like using a tool the right way
>better.



the thing is to hand them off to your kids in better shape than you
got them.

wood bodied and transitional planes work just fine. the whisper thin
curlies that come off of a well tuned plane don't care what age or
body the plane is....
Bridger

Jj

Jim

in reply to Jim on 25/02/2004 4:54 AM

26/02/2004 5:11 AM

dave in fairfax <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Jim wrote:
>> My grandfather gave me several planes that his father had used and a
>> couple that he knew that HIS grandfather had used. After cleaning
>> them up and sharpening the blades (amazing how little some of that
>> old iron rusts) I have the "normal" planes (adjustment knob and blade
>> mounted to an iron plate which is mounted to a piece of wood) working
>> ok, but I don't have a clue how to referbish or even use the old wood
>> planes. Although I haven't given up on my power tools by any means, I
>> have found that I am enjoying using a nice sharp plane for some
>> tasks. Who knew those things were more than pretty shop nick-nacks
>> ;)
>
> Assuming that this isn't a troll, or a drive-by. That metal
> bodied planes were you left. Take a look at
> http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0.htm and try matching them
> to pictures if you don't know much about planes, although if
> you've got them sharpened up and working properly it would seem
> that you do. Regardless, congratulations on the heirlooms and
> keeping them in the family, and working.
>
> Dave in Fairfax

Certainly not a troll!
I did look up the planes. None of the wooden planes appear to be worth
much and the metal bodied plane didn't look to be too prized either. I
think they were all extremely common in the day.

Of course since they have been in the family so long, I'm kind of glad
they aren't worth much. Doesn't even tempt me into selling them!
My main goal is to put them back into proper working order and figure out
the proper way to use them. Given the limited knowledge I have right now
I already like them but, in general, I like using a tool the right way
better.

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Jim on 25/02/2004 4:54 AM

25/02/2004 11:39 AM

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> Several planes? Damn, you are lucky. All I ever got was a ride in a Piper
> Tri-Pacer and a J-3. Never got to own a single plane let alone be left
> several of them. .

Me neither. A Beechcraft Siera once, and a Beechcraft Sundowner I think.

Oh well. I couldn't afford the insurance or av-gas anyway.

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