DJ

"Dave Jackson"

03/02/2006 8:30 PM

GLOAT!!!GLOAT!!!GLOAT!!!

I got off work early today due to rain. On the way home I stopped by
our local architectural salvage warehouse that recently opened just to have
a look around. I explored rows and rows of surplus cabinets, doors, stair
parts (etc etc)until I got to the dark back of the warehouse and spied a
bunch of assorted lumber standing against the wall. I just had to pick
through and see what was there. The first thing I moved was several stair
treads. I thought "Damn, those things are heavy". I took one over to the
light and brushed off the dust. No clue as to what kind of wood it was, but
it looked *really* nice. Finally, I asked the guy working there about the
wood. He said it's mahogany. I told him that I've worked with plenty of
mahogany, and I didn't think it was mahogony, but that I didn't know what it
was. He said they are $15 a piece....
Upon further digging through the pile, I pulled out a bunch of boards,
at least 150 bdft, that were dark and *very* heavy, like the stair treads.
They were all in the rough, most well over 12" wide, 10 ft. or so long and
just shy of 2" thick. I still have no clue as to what kind of wood it is,
but there was enough for a nice project. Soon, the guy returned again. I
asked him if he'd take $100 for all the boards minus the stair treads. He
agreed on the condition that I carried them out myself (he didn't want to
lift those heavy things) so I started loading them up....
About the fifth board I carried (more like struggled) out to the truck I
noticed some writing on the board in blue crayon. I brushed off the dust to
reveal the word "JATOBA"
WOOOO HOOOO!
The other 5 boards were not so difficult to load!
Damn, I'm still excited! --dave




This topic has 29 replies

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

04/02/2006 10:56 AM


> Yeah, but by the time you cut it all, you'll have to spend 10 bucks to get
> your blade sharpened.
>
> You suck big time.
>
Might be a good idea to get several blades from HF? Costs less than the
sharpening no doubt, $4 a tooth where I am. The adult ed. shop I attend
just installed a new 12" HF carbide blade to the RAS (a huge old Delta),
teacher said it cuts beautifully compared to the old blade, which was
tearing out the lower edge of the cut, nasty.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=38545
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cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

ER

Enoch Root

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

06/02/2006 1:55 PM

arw01 wrote:
> Do share, I've beem quoted quite a bit more for shipping in those
> quantities to the PNW..

Well, I've been using a total from woodworkerssource (?) as
encouragement for the local distributors.

Even with their current sale on domestic woods they are putting pressure
on them.

What they can't do is let me pick through their stock. :)

Mind you, it may be cheaper to buy wood living in Washington than here
in SD.

er
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"N Hurst"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

03/02/2006 1:15 PM

Congrats!

My $20 Wilton 7" bench vise doesn't seem like such a great find now. :-)

Db

"DamnYankee"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

04/02/2006 3:06 PM


Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> jo4hn wrote:
> > Dave Jackson wrote:
> >
> > [snip of suckage reporting]
> >
> > Remember to use a quality primer before you paint this stuff...
>
>
> Why would he waste his time painting firewood?

Firewood!!!! No way I'd burn good framing lumber like that!

Bryan

kk

"ktc"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

04/02/2006 7:19 PM


AAvK wrote:
> Might be a good idea to get several blades from HF? Costs less than the
> sharpening no doubt, $4 a tooth where I am.

Your saying it would cost more to have a 60 tooth blade sharpened than
it would cost to buy a couple of Forrest WWIIs? Where do you live? I
want to open some businesses there.

ktc

aa

"arw01"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

06/02/2006 7:22 AM

Do share, I've beem quoted quite a bit more for shipping in those
quantities to the PNW..

Alan

jj

jo4hn

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

04/02/2006 8:32 AM

Dave Jackson wrote:

[snip of suckage reporting]

Remember to use a quality primer before you paint this stuff...

:-) j4

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

03/02/2006 9:19 PM

On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 20:43:02 -0500, "Buddy Matlosz" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>B.
>

ummm, care to expond on that?



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mac davis

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

05/02/2006 8:52 AM

On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 10:56:30 -0800, "AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>> Yeah, but by the time you cut it all, you'll have to spend 10 bucks to get
>> your blade sharpened.
>>
>> You suck big time.
>>
>Might be a good idea to get several blades from HF? Costs less than the
>sharpening no doubt, $4 a tooth where I am. The adult ed. shop I attend
>just installed a new 12" HF carbide blade to the RAS (a huge old Delta),
>teacher said it cuts beautifully compared to the old blade, which was
>tearing out the lower edge of the cut, nasty.
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=38545

I'll admit it, Arch.. I never sharpen blades...
I keep 3 or 4 of the HF blades around, stock up when on sale, etc...

They cut very well for a while, then when they start to dull, I chuck them into
the recycle bin and put another $8 blade in... works for my uses..

(of course, since I got the turning bug over a year ago, I can't find my saw
anyway... lol )


mac

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BM

Brooks Moses

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

06/02/2006 2:07 AM

Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> jo4hn wrote:
>>Dave Jackson wrote:
>>[snip of suckage reporting]
>>
>>Remember to use a quality primer before you paint this stuff...
>
> Why would he waste his time painting firewood?

Well, it certainly won't match his oak firewood if he tries to _stain_
them both, now will it?

- Brooks


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"noonenparticular"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

04/02/2006 12:40 AM

Just think of all the stair treads you can make with that!

jc

oh, you suck.

snip of great gloat.

l

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

04/02/2006 6:09 AM

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:19:14 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, Mark
& Juanita <[email protected]> quickly quoth:

>On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 20:43:02 -0500, "Buddy Matlosz" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>B.
>
> ummm, care to expond on that?

Expand or expound? I wonder if it's an advertisement. <gd&r>


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BM

"Buddy Matlosz"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

03/02/2006 8:43 PM

B.

ER

Enoch Root

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

03/02/2006 3:49 PM

Dave Jackson wrote:

[jatoba vacuum, sucked]

Some people have life so easy... you suck.

er (still looking for a cheap lumber source)
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Robatoy

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

03/02/2006 3:47 PM

With all that suction, you're likely to change the weather. I hope you
get wet.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
congrats, tho....:)

CS

"Charles Spitzer"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

03/02/2006 1:42 PM


"Dave Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I got off work early today due to rain. On the way home I stopped by
> our local architectural salvage warehouse that recently opened just to
> have a look around. I explored rows and rows of surplus cabinets, doors,
> stair parts (etc etc)until I got to the dark back of the warehouse and
> spied a bunch of assorted lumber standing against the wall. I just had to
> pick through and see what was there. The first thing I moved was several
> stair treads. I thought "Damn, those things are heavy". I took one over
> to the light and brushed off the dust. No clue as to what kind of wood it
> was, but it looked *really* nice. Finally, I asked the guy working there
> about the wood. He said it's mahogany. I told him that I've worked with
> plenty of mahogany, and I didn't think it was mahogony, but that I didn't
> know what it was. He said they are $15 a piece....
> Upon further digging through the pile, I pulled out a bunch of boards,
> at least 150 bdft, that were dark and *very* heavy, like the stair
> treads. They were all in the rough, most well over 12" wide, 10 ft. or so
> long and just shy of 2" thick. I still have no clue as to what kind of
> wood it is, but there was enough for a nice project. Soon, the guy
> returned again. I asked him if he'd take $100 for all the boards minus
> the stair treads. He agreed on the condition that I carried them out
> myself (he didn't want to lift those heavy things) so I started loading
> them up....
> About the fifth board I carried (more like struggled) out to the truck
> I noticed some writing on the board in blue crayon. I brushed off the
> dust to reveal the word "JATOBA"
> WOOOO HOOOO!
> The other 5 boards were not so difficult to load!
> Damn, I'm still excited! --dave

wasn't there a tornado somewhere in the country yesterday? i think you have
it beat for suckage.

Ob

Odinn

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

04/02/2006 10:34 AM

On 2/3/2006 3:30 PM Dave Jackson mumbled something about the following:
> I got off work early today due to rain. On the way home I stopped by
> our local architectural salvage warehouse that recently opened just to have
> a look around. I explored rows and rows of surplus cabinets, doors, stair
> parts (etc etc)until I got to the dark back of the warehouse and spied a
> bunch of assorted lumber standing against the wall. I just had to pick
> through and see what was there. The first thing I moved was several stair
> treads. I thought "Damn, those things are heavy". I took one over to the
> light and brushed off the dust. No clue as to what kind of wood it was, but
> it looked *really* nice. Finally, I asked the guy working there about the
> wood. He said it's mahogany. I told him that I've worked with plenty of
> mahogany, and I didn't think it was mahogony, but that I didn't know what it
> was. He said they are $15 a piece....
> Upon further digging through the pile, I pulled out a bunch of boards,
> at least 150 bdft, that were dark and *very* heavy, like the stair treads.
> They were all in the rough, most well over 12" wide, 10 ft. or so long and
> just shy of 2" thick. I still have no clue as to what kind of wood it is,
> but there was enough for a nice project. Soon, the guy returned again. I
> asked him if he'd take $100 for all the boards minus the stair treads. He
> agreed on the condition that I carried them out myself (he didn't want to
> lift those heavy things) so I started loading them up....
> About the fifth board I carried (more like struggled) out to the truck I
> noticed some writing on the board in blue crayon. I brushed off the dust to
> reveal the word "JATOBA"
> WOOOO HOOOO!
> The other 5 boards were not so difficult to load!
> Damn, I'm still excited! --dave
>
>
>
>


You suck majorly.

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MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

04/02/2006 11:44 AM

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 06:09:24 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:19:14 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, Mark
>& Juanita <[email protected]> quickly quoth:
>
>>On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 20:43:02 -0500, "Buddy Matlosz" <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>B.
>>
>> ummm, care to expond on that?
>
>Expand or expound? I wonder if it's an advertisement. <gd&r>
>

That's a new compound word that I just made up, a combination of expand
and expound. To be used when the writer is thinking of both words but his
fingers haven't sorted out the appropriate sequence of keystrokes. :-)



>
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If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

03/02/2006 9:03 PM

That really sucks Dave.
Stop by my house and I will gladly help you unload the wood. ;~)

"Dave Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I got off work early today due to rain. On the way home I stopped by
> our local architectural salvage warehouse that recently opened just to
> have a look around. I explored rows and rows of surplus cabinets, doors,
> stair parts (etc etc)until I got to the dark back of the warehouse and
> spied a bunch of assorted lumber standing against the wall. I just had to
> pick through and see what was there. The first thing I moved was several
> stair treads. I thought "Damn, those things are heavy". I took one over
> to the light and brushed off the dust. No clue as to what kind of wood it
> was, but it looked *really* nice. Finally, I asked the guy working there
> about the wood. He said it's mahogany. I told him that I've worked with
> plenty of mahogany, and I didn't think it was mahogony, but that I didn't
> know what it was. He said they are $15 a piece....
> Upon further digging through the pile, I pulled out a bunch of boards,
> at least 150 bdft, that were dark and *very* heavy, like the stair
> treads. They were all in the rough, most well over 12" wide, 10 ft. or so
> long and just shy of 2" thick. I still have no clue as to what kind of
> wood it is, but there was enough for a nice project. Soon, the guy
> returned again. I asked him if he'd take $100 for all the boards minus
> the stair treads. He agreed on the condition that I carried them out
> myself (he didn't want to lift those heavy things) so I started loading
> them up....
> About the fifth board I carried (more like struggled) out to the truck
> I noticed some writing on the board in blue crayon. I brushed off the
> dust to reveal the word "JATOBA"
> WOOOO HOOOO!
> The other 5 boards were not so difficult to load!
> Damn, I'm still excited! --dave
>
>
>
>

MD

"Morris Dovey"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

03/02/2006 8:14 PM

"Buddy Matlosz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

I couldn't have said it better myself! :-)

--
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DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto


DJ

"Dave Jackson"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

05/02/2006 5:54 AM

Hey all,
Not to worry, I bought the WWII to use it. In fact, I was concerned
about my old Rockwell contractors saw (only 1 1/2 hp) being able to handle
that thick Jatoba. I've had problems with it in bogging down with some
North American hardwoods, especially thicker Oak, but, to my surprise, it
did just fine - never missed a beat. I credit that to the recently
purchased WWII. My jointer and planer on the other hand do not like Jatoba.
There is a noticeable drop in RPM's when I machine it. My new DW 718 SCMS
also drops a little in RPM's as well, but the wood does ultimately machine
very nicely. Furthermore, I think this wood will require me to break out
and sharpen my neander tools (i.e. cabinet scrapers) to do the final finish
work. Somehow I think the ROS just wont do it justice. This stuff has been
a real pleasure to work with so far except it's damn heavy. --dave

"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:tifFf.12601$eR.11625@fed1read03...
>
>> Your saying it would cost more to have a 60 tooth blade sharpened than
>> it would cost to buy a couple of Forrest WWIIs? Where do you live? I
>> want to open some businesses there.
>>
>> ktc
>>
>
> 'Bout 90 miles north from Los Angeles on the coast. Drop on by then. But
> you
> wouldn't like the prices of lumber here, you pay out the nose for shipping
> to the
> west coast. $6.95 to $16.xx b/f for hard maple.
>
> I spoze I coulda been wrong though... that price was mentioned to me by
> them
> about sharpening a dado set, he could've meant the inner cutters.
>
> --
> Alex - "newbie_neander" woodworker
> cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
> not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/
>

VB

"Vic Baron"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

03/02/2006 9:14 PM

Nope! - The blue crayon is the giveaway. That's the signature of a noted
tagger - Joe Jatoba - very well known in lumber circles. Don't feel bad -
I'd be happy to take the stuff off your hands.


OH! I almost forgot - you SUCK!


Vic

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

04/02/2006 6:08 PM


"Odinn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> About the fifth board I carried (more like struggled) out to the
>> truck I noticed some writing on the board in blue crayon. I brushed off
>> the dust to reveal the word "JATOBA"
>> WOOOO HOOOO!
>> The other 5 boards were not so difficult to load!
>> Damn, I'm still excited! --dave

Yeah, but by the time you cut it all, you'll have to spend 10 bucks to get
your blade sharpened.

You suck big time.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

05/02/2006 5:34 PM


"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>Might be a good idea to get several blades from HF? Costs less than the
>>sharpening no doubt, $4 a tooth where I am. The adult ed. shop I attend
>>just installed a new 12" HF carbide blade to the RAS (a huge old Delta),
>>teacher said it cuts beautifully compared to the old blade, which was
>>tearing out the lower edge of the cut, nasty.
>>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=38545
>
> I'll admit it, Arch.. I never sharpen blades...
> I keep 3 or 4 of the HF blades around, stock up when on sale, etc...
>
> They cut very well for a while, then when they start to dull, I chuck them
> into
> the recycle bin and put another $8 blade in... works for my uses..

Four bucks a tooth is outrageous.
http://www.ridgecarbidetool.com/html/sharpening.htm
40T blade is $14. They do all brands. My DeWalt for the CMS came back
better than new.

My experience with cheap blades is that they just don't leave a nice finish
when needed. May be OK for cutting some frame work, but not for furniture
grade applications.

md

mac davis

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

05/02/2006 8:50 AM

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:02:22 GMT, Unquestionably Confused
<[email protected]> wrote:

>jo4hn wrote:
>> Dave Jackson wrote:
>>
>> [snip of suckage reporting]
>>
>> Remember to use a quality primer before you paint this stuff...
>
>
>Why would he waste his time painting firewood?
>
>
lights easier?


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

04/02/2006 8:38 PM


> Your saying it would cost more to have a 60 tooth blade sharpened than
> it would cost to buy a couple of Forrest WWIIs? Where do you live? I
> want to open some businesses there.
>
> ktc
>

'Bout 90 miles north from Los Angeles on the coast. Drop on by then. But you
wouldn't like the prices of lumber here, you pay out the nose for shipping to the
west coast. $6.95 to $16.xx b/f for hard maple.

I spoze I coulda been wrong though... that price was mentioned to me by them
about sharpening a dado set, he could've meant the inner cutters.

--
Alex - "newbie_neander" woodworker
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

BM

"Buddy Matlosz"

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

05/02/2006 9:29 PM


"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:02:22 GMT, Unquestionably Confused
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >jo4hn wrote:
> >> Dave Jackson wrote:
> >>
> >> [snip of suckage reporting]
> >>
> >> Remember to use a quality primer before you paint this stuff...
> >
> >
> >Why would he waste his time painting firewood?
> >
> >
> lights easier?
>
Wider choice of colors?

B.

ER

Enoch Root

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

05/02/2006 2:19 AM

AAvK wrote:

> 'Bout 90 miles north from Los Angeles on the coast. Drop on by then. But you
> wouldn't like the prices of lumber here, you pay out the nose for shipping to the
> west coast. $6.95 to $16.xx b/f for hard maple.
>
> I spoze I coulda been wrong though... that price was mentioned to me by them
> about sharpening a dado set, he could've meant the inner cutters.

I'm almost sure you can get a reasonable quote from a distributor in LA.
I'm talking with one here in SD, and they are chopping nice chunks off
the price when I told them I could find better prices online and the
shipping charges are only $100 (approx.) for the 200bf I'm asking bids for.

er
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Unquestionably Confused

in reply to "Dave Jackson" on 03/02/2006 8:30 PM

04/02/2006 5:02 PM

jo4hn wrote:
> Dave Jackson wrote:
>
> [snip of suckage reporting]
>
> Remember to use a quality primer before you paint this stuff...


Why would he waste his time painting firewood?



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