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23/06/2004 8:16 PM

Norm's shakiness

On closeups of Norm's hands, he is visibly shaking. Is it a medical
condition or just too much caffeine?

John


This topic has 25 replies

JD

Jon Deplumme

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

24/06/2004 12:06 PM

I didn't see the video you're referring to, but it could be "benign
essential tremor." I've got a light touch of it, enough to make writing
longhand *extremely* tedious and frustrating, and my handwriting
essentially illegible. It's a heritable trait. My Dad, at 89, shakes
like a friggin' leaf, and has for years.

http://www.essentialtremor.org/

http://my.webmd.com/hw/health_guide_atoz/nord140.asp

Benign Essential Tremor

Synonyms

* Presenile Tremor Syndrome
* Tremor, Familial Essential
* Tremor, Hereditary Benign

Disorder Subdivisions

* None

General Discussion

Benign Essential Tremor is a neurologic movement disorder characterized
by involuntary fine rhythmic tremor of a body part or parts, primarily
the hands and arms (upper limbs). In many affected individuals, upper
limb tremor may occur as an isolated finding. However, in others, tremor
may gradually involve other anatomic regions, such as the head, voice,
tongue, or roof of the mouth (palate), leading to difficulties
articulating speech (dysarthria). Less commonly, tremor may affect
muscles of the trunk or legs.

In individuals with the condition, tremor tends to occur while
voluntarily maintaining a fixed posture against gravity ("postural
tremor") or while performing certain goal-directed movements ("kinetic
intention tremor"). Although tremor is typically absent with rest--i.e.,
when the affected muscle is not voluntary activated--some individuals
with advanced disease may develop resting tremors.

Although symptom onset may occur during childhood or adolescence, the
condition most commonly becomes apparent during adulthood, at an average
age of 45 years. Benign Essential Tremor is generally considered a
slowly progressive disorder. Disease progression is characterized by an
increase in tremor amplitude, causing difficulties in performing fine
motor skills and varying degrees of functional disability. For example,
hand tremor may gradually cause difficulties with manipulating small
objects, drinking fluids from a glass, eating, writing, or dressing. (As
mentioned above, in some affected individuals, disease progression may
also include extension of tremor to other muscle groups.)

Benign Essential Tremor may appear to occur randomly for unknown reasons
(sporadically) or be transmitted as an autosomal dominant trait.
Researchers suggest that changes (mutations) of different genes may be
responsible for the disorder (genetic heterogeneity). For example,
during genetic analysis of several affected families (kindreds),
investigators located a gene for the disorder, known as "FET1," on the
long arm (q) of chromosome 3 (3q13). In another kindred, the disorder
was determined to result from mutations of a gene, designated "ETM2," on
the short arm (p) of chromosome 2 (2p22-p25).


[email protected] wrote:
> On closeups of Norm's hands, he is visibly shaking. Is it a medical
> condition or just too much caffeine?
>
> John

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

24/06/2004 4:59 PM


"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >
> >> I bet LRod would know.
> >
> >I bet LRod would care.
>
> You both lose.



LOL... ;~)

DH

Dave Hinz

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

23/06/2004 8:27 PM

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:16:12 GMT, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> On closeups of Norm's hands, he is visibly shaking. Is it a medical
> condition or just too much caffeine?

I don't know, but it is more noticable in more recent shows.

SC

Scott Cramer

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

24/06/2004 1:10 PM

"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>> On closeups of Norm's hands, he is visibly shaking. Is it a medical
>> condition or just too much caffeine?

> I bet LRod would know.

I bet LRod would care.

LL

LRod

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

24/06/2004 5:22 PM

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:10:50 GMT, Scott Cramer
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>>> On closeups of Norm's hands, he is visibly shaking. Is it a medical
>>> condition or just too much caffeine?
>
>> I bet LRod would know.
>
>I bet LRod would care.

You both lose.


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Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

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MM

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

23/06/2004 9:23 PM

Maybe he heard a rumor that Bob (I'll put my name on anything for a $)
Vila is coming back to TOH. Mark L.

[email protected] wrote:
> On closeups of Norm's hands, he is visibly shaking. Is it a medical
> condition or just too much caffeine?
>
> John

di

dave in fairfax

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

24/06/2004 7:26 PM

[email protected] wrote angrily:
> Listen, a**hole,
> I always thought woodworkers were a laidback group of people but I
> guess there's always a bad apple in every group.....
Go back and reread what Rumpty said. I think you misunderstood
him.
Dave in Fairfax
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ET

"Eric Tonks"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

23/06/2004 10:01 PM

I have noticed that for the past couple of years. Sometimes he has problems
fitting small parts together. They usually cut the shot short and change to
the finished assembly.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On closeups of Norm's hands, he is visibly shaking. Is it a medical
> condition or just too much caffeine?
>
> John

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

23/06/2004 11:09 PM

He's camera shy.

UA100

DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

25/06/2004 3:04 PM

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:06:57 -0500, Jon Deplumme wrote:

> I didn't see the video you're referring to, but it could be "benign
> essential tremor." I've got a light touch of it, enough to make writing
> longhand *extremely* tedious and frustrating, and my handwriting
> essentially illegible. It's a heritable trait. My Dad, at 89, shakes
> like a friggin' leaf, and has for years.

Also, google up "writers cramp".

-Doug

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then you and I will still each have one apple.
But if you have an idea and I have one idea and we exchange these
ideas,then each of us will have two ideas" George B. Shaw

tT

[email protected] (ToolMiser)

in reply to Doug Winterburn on 25/06/2004 3:04 PM

26/06/2004 11:56 AM

My father-in-law also has a shake, but just give him a rifle, and it totally
goes away!

di

dave in fairfax

in reply to Doug Winterburn on 25/06/2004 3:04 PM

01/07/2004 3:40 PM

"[email protected]" wrote:
> BTDT, Doc picked up a scalpel for a small incision and his hand
> stopped shaking.

Resting tremors are like that. Friend of mine is a scrollsaw
wizard, but usually his hands shke like something from Blazing
Saddles.

Dave In Fairfax
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nn

in reply to Doug Winterburn on 25/06/2004 3:04 PM

01/07/2004 7:57 AM

BTDT, Doc picked up a scalpel for a small incision and his hand
stopped shaking.

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:28:48 -0400, [email protected] wrote:

>On 26 Jun 2004 11:56:13 GMT, [email protected] (ToolMiser) wrote:
>
>>My father-in-law also has a shake, but just give him a rifle, and it totally
>>goes away!
>
>That's a comforting thought. <grin>

i

in reply to Doug Winterburn on 25/06/2004 3:04 PM

30/06/2004 9:28 PM

On 26 Jun 2004 11:56:13 GMT, [email protected] (ToolMiser) wrote:

>My father-in-law also has a shake, but just give him a rifle, and it totally
>goes away!

That's a comforting thought. <grin>

BB

Bob Brogan

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

25/06/2004 4:33 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Eric Tonks wrote:
>
> > I have noticed that for the past couple of years. Sometimes he has
> > problems fitting small parts together. They usually cut the shot short and
> > change to the finished assembly.
>
> FWIW, my dad had a non-progressive tremor--don't recall the medical
> terminology but it wasn't life-threatening, just annoying. Might also be a
> problem with blood sugar control--hypoglycemia can cause a tremor. Or
> maybe he should just force himself to take a break for lunch.
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> On closeups of Norm's hands, he is visibly shaking. Is it a medical
> >> condition or just too much caffeine?
> >>
> >> John

Just to note that there are some conditions/malady's/diseases for which
the drugs prescribed cause tremors.
--
Thanks,

Ham

BB

Bob Brogan

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

25/06/2004 4:35 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:

> Listen, a**hole, I happen to love NYW and hope that Norm's condition
> is not serious enough to affect his doing the show. I have learned
> much from him.
>
> I always thought woodworkers were a laidback group of people but I
> guess there's always a bad apple in every group.....

I thought that was an un-useable cut-off in every bin.

>
>
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:47:09 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >>What is yourrrr problem
> >
> >Comment on Norm's woodworking and NOT his physical problems, if any.
--
Thanks,

Ham

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

23/06/2004 9:04 PM

I bet LRod would know.


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On closeups of Norm's hands, he is visibly shaking. Is it a medical
> condition or just too much caffeine?
>
> John

Ld

"Lee"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

24/06/2004 3:01 AM

What is yourrrr problem

"Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > On closeups of Norm's hands, he is visibly shaking. Is it a medical
> > condition or just too much caffeine?
> >
> > John
>
>

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

24/06/2004 7:29 AM

Eric Tonks wrote:

> I have noticed that for the past couple of years. Sometimes he has
> problems fitting small parts together. They usually cut the shot short and
> change to the finished assembly.

FWIW, my dad had a non-progressive tremor--don't recall the medical
terminology but it wasn't life-threatening, just annoying. Might also be a
problem with blood sugar control--hypoglycemia can cause a tremor. Or
maybe he should just force himself to take a break for lunch.

> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On closeups of Norm's hands, he is visibly shaking. Is it a medical
>> condition or just too much caffeine?
>>
>> John

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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

CG

"Creamy Goodness"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

23/06/2004 3:25 PM

Rumpty wrote:
> Who the HELL cares?
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On closeups of Norm's hands, he is visibly shaking. Is it a medical
>> condition or just too much caffeine?
>>
>> John

Geez, chill dude.

I hadn't noticed it. Hope it's not a symptom of a disease and it is just
coffee.

Rr

"Rumpty"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

24/06/2004 10:47 AM

>What is yourrrr problem

Comment on Norm's woodworking and NOT his physical problems, if any.

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"Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:QtrCc.95125$eu.24298@attbi_s02...
> What is yourrrr problem
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> "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Who the HELL cares?
> >
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> > > On closeups of Norm's hands, he is visibly shaking. Is it a medical
> > > condition or just too much caffeine?
> > >
> > > John
> >
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MS

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

24/06/2004 3:56 PM

Rumpty wrote:
>> What is yourrrr problem
>
> Comment on Norm's woodworking and NOT his physical problems, if any.


Have you noticed how much coffee those guys seem to drink on TOH? He probably
just needs to switch to decaf.



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f

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

24/06/2004 6:53 PM

Listen, a**hole, I happen to love NYW and hope that Norm's condition
is not serious enough to affect his doing the show. I have learned
much from him.

I always thought woodworkers were a laidback group of people but I
guess there's always a bad apple in every group.....


On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:47:09 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>>What is yourrrr problem
>
>Comment on Norm's woodworking and NOT his physical problems, if any.

Rr

"Rumpty"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

23/06/2004 4:21 PM

Who the HELL cares?

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<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On closeups of Norm's hands, he is visibly shaking. Is it a medical
> condition or just too much caffeine?
>
> John

VB

"Vic Baron"

in reply to [email protected] on 23/06/2004 8:16 PM

23/06/2004 8:23 PM

Norm's Liability Insurance Carrier.

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> > On closeups of Norm's hands, he is visibly shaking. Is it a medical
> > condition or just too much caffeine?
> >
> > John
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