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"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Jan 9, 6:09 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's cool.
> .
> .
> .
> Anybody try this yet?

What if I included the URL, eh? Eh? EH??

http://www.lamello.com/en/downloads/application-videos/neuheiten/fixo.html

Good idea. I can see where that could be very useful.

Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in
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> Just watched TOH and Tommy was using a Domino to make his built-in
> bookcase carcases.
>
> They were also using a Delta line boring machine to do the adjustable
> shelf pin holes ... eatcherheartout, viewers!
>
> I tuned in late, but didn't see any Festool ... :)
>

Looked like they were using the KPAX CMS in the same room painting was
happening, but perhaps that was before the line boring machine.

Puckdropper

On Jan 10, 1:29=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jan 10, 1:19=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
>
>
> > "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >news:[email protected]...
> > On Jan 10, 12:25 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > >news:[email protected].=
..
>
> > > > That's cool.
> > > > .
> > > > .
> > > > .
> > > > Anybody try this yet?
>
> > > I think I have a better solution....the Domino.
>
> > But you're still clamping.
> > This is for Q&D work, not fine furniture.
>
> > Yeah that is true but I have to justify the cost of the Domino,,,, just=
like
> > Lamello is coming up with ways to justify payinf mor for their product.=
.
> > LOL.
>
> > Seriousely though I have made a dozen or so picture frames and used the=
Kreg
> > jig and pocket hole screws to fasten the corners. =A0I made the frame
> > material, 2 pieces, in to long moldings after staining each of the 2 pi=
eces
> > different colors.
>
> > Luckily no tear out in the miters so no touch was needed and the pocket
> > holes closed the miters perfectly.
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4262567565/
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4262567669/
>
> Just did a price check. So far... 50 cents apiece. Sooo. that little
> demo they did, the 4 flat miters and the 4 butt miters. $ 8.00.
> That still makes it Quick & Dirty, but not Cheap & Dirty.
> Hell, I can throw a band clamp on for $ 4.00.. or as you suggested,
> use the Kreg.
> Those Lamello bastards....- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The Paslode corrrugated nailer will do that mitering task for about
$0.25 and quite a bit faster.
Joe G

Leon <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Luckily no tear out in the miters so no touch was needed and the pocket
> holes closed the miters perfectly.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4262567565/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4262567669/

those are coming up as removed :-(
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On Jan 9, 6:10=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's cool.
> Anybody try this yet?
>
> http://www.lamello.com/en/downloads/application-videos/neuheiten/fixo...

There is something just wrong about using an overpriced and patented
piece of plastic in a biscuit joint. For pete's sake, clamping isn't
that difficult. I suspect that the cost of those plastic bits from
Lamello is going to add up pretty quickly for volume work. For low
volume and one-off pieces, the overhead of clamping is better than the
hassle of dealing with yet another tool in the shop.

I think that most of us will admit that we're better off learning how
to adapt a smaller number of tools and techniques to a large number of
applications than try to use the "perfect" tool and technique for each
time. For one, it cuts down on the cost of tools. But more
importantly, it lets us concentrate on mastering our techniques.

On 1/9/2010 5:10 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Jan 9, 6:09 pm, Robatoy<[email protected]> wrote:
>> That's cool.
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> Anybody try this yet?
>
> What if I included the URL, eh? Eh? EH??
>
> http://www.lamello.com/en/downloads/application-videos/neuheiten/fixo.html

Butt ugly, but damn effective. But, how many times do you need to make a
mitered corner with construction lumber?

Kinda reminds me of those ubiquitous corner fasteners my grandfather
used to use to fix window screens, on steroids. :)

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:06:13 -0600, the infamous "Leon"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>
>"Robert Haar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:C76F9686.4850DD%[email protected]...
>> On 1/10/10 1:19 PM, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> The difference is that the Lamello self-clamping biscuits can be used with
>> just about any biscuit slot cutter. You don't have to buy their expensive
>> tool.
>>
>
>You don't have to have a Domino to cut mortises for floating tennons either.
>But what fun would that be? :~)

Y'know, just once here on the Wreck, it would be nice to see that
someone had spent the grand on the bloody tool, done the work on the
pieces, and then actually got the spelling of the damned joint right
when gloating. Just _once_! Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!

"Tenon" has just two Ns in it!

There. I feel better.

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"Robert Haar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 1/10/10 1:19 PM, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> The difference is that the Lamello self-clamping biscuits can be used with
> just about any biscuit slot cutter. You don't have to buy their expensive
> tool.
>

You don't have to have a Domino to cut mortises for floating tennons either.
But what fun would that be? :~)

On Jan 10, 2:17=A0pm, GROVER <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jan 10, 1:29=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 10, 1:19=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > >news:[email protected].=
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> > > On Jan 10, 12:25 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:[email protected]=
m...
>
> > > > > That's cool.
> > > > > .
> > > > > .
> > > > > .
> > > > > Anybody try this yet?
>
> > > > I think I have a better solution....the Domino.
>
> > > But you're still clamping.
> > > This is for Q&D work, not fine furniture.
>
> > > Yeah that is true but I have to justify the cost of the Domino,,,, ju=
st like
> > > Lamello is coming up with ways to justify payinf mor for their produc=
t..
> > > LOL.
>
> > > Seriousely though I have made a dozen or so picture frames and used t=
he Kreg
> > > jig and pocket hole screws to fasten the corners. =A0I made the frame
> > > material, 2 pieces, in to long moldings after staining each of the 2 =
pieces
> > > different colors.
>
> > > Luckily no tear out in the miters so no touch was needed and the pock=
et
> > > holes closed the miters perfectly.
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4262567565/
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4262567669/
>
> > Just did a price check. So far... 50 cents apiece. Sooo. that little
> > demo they did, the 4 flat miters and the 4 butt miters. $ 8.00.
> > That still makes it Quick & Dirty, but not Cheap & Dirty.
> > Hell, I can throw a band clamp on for $ 4.00.. or as you suggested,
> > use the Kreg.
> > Those Lamello bastards....- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> The Paslode corrrugated nailer will do that mitering task for about
> $0.25 and quite a bit faster.
> Joe =A0G

I have one, but it is very crude in its execution. It actually works
on the same principle. Doing what they did in the video with a Paslode
would have had splinters flying everywhere and I'm not sure the butt-
mitre would have worked at all.
The Paslode sure has its place in a countertop shop though. BTW, $
0.01 per fastener is more like it. I bought 4000 for 43.00 US$.
Effective, but crude. Real crude. Those fasteners enter the work-piece
with the force of a small sledgehammer.

On Jan 9, 6:09=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's cool.
> .
> .
> .
> Anybody try this yet?

What if I included the URL, eh? Eh? EH??

http://www.lamello.com/en/downloads/application-videos/neuheiten/fixo.html

On Jan 10, 1:25=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/10/2010 12:19 PM, Leon wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yeah that is true but I have to justify the cost of the Domino,,,, just=
like
> > Lamello is coming up with ways to justify payinf mor for their product.=
.
>
> Just watched TOH and Tommy was using a Domino to make his built-in
> bookcase carcases.
>
> They were also using a Delta line boring machine to do the adjustable
> shelf pin holes ... eatcherheartout, viewers!
>
> I tuned in late, but didn't see any Festool ... :)
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)

The Domino would be a nice fit for my shop. So would a nice powerful
bread-dough mixer for the house. *S* That's a fun hobby so far.
Annnd, as with most hobbies, there's this lunatic fringe which has
quite a presence on the net.
I'm hoping this interest of mine fades. (Butter pecan raisin loaf is
NOT low-cal)....(but farking awesome!!!)

On Jan 10, 1:19=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
> On Jan 10, 12:25 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >news:[email protected]...
>
> > > That's cool.
> > > .
> > > .
> > > .
> > > Anybody try this yet?
>
> > I think I have a better solution....the Domino.
>
> But you're still clamping.
> This is for Q&D work, not fine furniture.
>
> Yeah that is true but I have to justify the cost of the Domino,,,, just l=
ike
> Lamello is coming up with ways to justify payinf mor for their product..
> LOL.
>
> Seriousely though I have made a dozen or so picture frames and used the K=
reg
> jig and pocket hole screws to fasten the corners. =A0I made the frame
> material, 2 pieces, in to long moldings after staining each of the 2 piec=
es
> different colors.
>
> Luckily no tear out in the miters so no touch was needed and the pocket
> holes closed the miters perfectly.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4262567565/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4262567669/

Just did a price check. So far... 50 cents apiece. Sooo. that little
demo they did, the 4 flat miters and the 4 butt miters. $ 8.00.
That still makes it Quick & Dirty, but not Cheap & Dirty.
Hell, I can throw a band clamp on for $ 4.00.. or as you suggested,
use the Kreg.
Those Lamello bastards....

On 1/10/10 1:19 PM, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> On Jan 10, 12:25 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> That's cool.
>>> .
>>> .
>>> .
>>> Anybody try this yet?
>>
>> I think I have a better solution....the Domino.
>
> But you're still clamping.
> This is for Q&D work, not fine furniture.
>
> Yeah that is true but I have to justify the cost of the Domino,,,, just like
> Lamello is coming up with ways to justify payinf mor for their product..

The difference is that the Lamello self-clamping biscuits can be used with
just about any biscuit slot cutter. You don't have to buy their expensive
tool.

"Jerome Meekings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1jcd40o.1qmj8ls1ubu6kiN%[email protected]...
> Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Luckily no tear out in the miters so no touch was needed and the pocket
>> holes closed the miters perfectly.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4262567565/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4262567669/
>
> those are coming up as removed :-(


Sorry those were less than desirable pictures and I removed them last night.
I could email you the jpg's if you like, request via e-mail.

"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Y'know, just once here on the Wreck, it would be nice to see that
> someone had spent the grand on the bloody tool, done the work on the
> pieces, and then actually got the spelling of the damned joint right
> when gloating. Just _once_! Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!
>
> "Tenon" has just two Ns in it!
>
> There. I feel better.


Tinin. there... Happy! ;~)

I is not uh a good speller. I will make no escuses fer dat. But I will
blam my spellin checker. May be had I spended $1000 on the Domino cutter
tool enstead of $750 I wood be a more gooder speller.

I feeeel mucho beder tooo.

"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 1/10/2010 12:19 PM, Leon wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah that is true but I have to justify the cost of the Domino,,,, just
>> like
>> Lamello is coming up with ways to justify payinf mor for their product..
>
> Just watched TOH and Tommy was using a Domino to make his built-in
> bookcase carcases.
>
> They were also using a Delta line boring machine to do the adjustable
> shelf pin holes ... eatcherheartout, viewers!
>
> I tuned in late, but didn't see any Festool ... :)


I have seen them using "your" saw in the las couple of weeks.

Robatoy wrote:

> On Jan 9, 6:09 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> That's cool.
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> Anybody try this yet?
>
> What if I included the URL, eh? Eh? EH??
>
> http://www.lamello.com/en/downloads/application-videos/neuheiten/fixo.html

I could have used that last week. Very cool. I suppose the lamello
biscuits won't work with Porter Cable biscuit joiners, will they?

--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

Robatoy wrote:

> On Jan 9, 7:33 pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 1/9/2010 5:10 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>>
>> > On Jan 9, 6:09 pm, Robatoy<[email protected]>  wrote:
>> >> That's cool.
>> >> .
>> >> .
>> >> .
>> >> Anybody try this yet?
>>
>> > What if I included the URL, eh? Eh? EH??
>>
>> >http://www.lamello.com/en/downloads/application-videos/neuheiten/fixo...
>>
>> Butt ugly, but damn effective. But, how many times do you need to make a
>> mitered corner with construction lumber?
>>
>> Kinda reminds me of those ubiquitous corner fasteners my grandfather
>> used to use to fix window screens, on steroids. :)
>>
>> --www.e-woodshop.net
>> Last update: 10/22/08
>> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
> I think it would work okay with hardwoods.

I'm building a game console to go in our son's room, nothing very fancy,
just some cherry trim and cherry plywood with a laminate top to match his
desktop (which right now has become a game table with a small portable TV on
it (he does his homework in the kitchen so he can pester my wife or myself
with how hard it is and how much help he needs. :-) This would have been
very handy for both the mitered top frame and the miters on the console
base. The biscuits would not be visible and the clamping and pulling the
pieces together would do much better than the in the ends of the frames

--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

On Jan 9, 6:09=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's cool.
> .
> .
> .
> Anybody try this yet?

Very cool. What are they made of?

On Jan 10, 12:25=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > That's cool.
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > Anybody try this yet?
>
> I think I have a better solution....the Domino.

But you're still clamping.
This is for Q&D work, not fine furniture.

On Jan 12, 10:00=A0am, Keith Hanlan <[email protected]> wrote:

>
[common sense snipped]

> yet another tool in the shop.

*gasp* Yes... annnnd????
>
> I think that most of us will admit that we're better off learning how
> to adapt a smaller number of tools and techniques to a large number of
> applications than try to>>>>>>> use the "perfect" tool and technique for =
each
> time. <<<<<<.

Yabbut...yabbut....

On Jan 9, 7:33=A0pm, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/9/2010 5:10 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
> > On Jan 9, 6:09 pm, Robatoy<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >> That's cool.
> >> .
> >> .
> >> .
> >> Anybody try this yet?
>
> > What if I included the URL, eh? Eh? EH??
>
> >http://www.lamello.com/en/downloads/application-videos/neuheiten/fixo...
>
> Butt ugly, but damn effective. But, how many times do you need to make a
> mitered corner with construction lumber?
>
> Kinda reminds me of those ubiquitous corner fasteners my grandfather
> used to use to fix window screens, on steroids. :)
>
> --www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 10/22/08
> KarlC@ (the obvious)

I think it would work okay with hardwoods.

On Jan 9, 11:36=A0pm, Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Jan 9, 6:09=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> That's cool.
> >> .
> >> .
> >> .
> >> Anybody try this yet?
>
> > What if I included the URL, eh? Eh? EH??
>
> >http://www.lamello.com/en/downloads/application-videos/neuheiten/fixo...
>
> =A0 I could have used that last week. =A0Very cool. =A0I suppose the lame=
llo
> biscuits won't work with Porter Cable biscuit joiners, will they?
>
> --
>
> There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
>
> Rob Leatham

The flyer which I received in the mail, had the URL in the review.
They claim any biscuit joiner will work.
here's a bit more.
http://www.lamello.com/uploads/media/Fixo_eng.pdf

"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That's cool.
> .
> .
> .
> Anybody try this yet?

I think I have a better solution....the Domino.

On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:31:47 -0600, the infamous "Leon"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>
>"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Y'know, just once here on the Wreck, it would be nice to see that
>> someone had spent the grand on the bloody tool, done the work on the
>> pieces, and then actually got the spelling of the damned joint right
>> when gloating. Just _once_! Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!
>>
>> "Tenon" has just two Ns in it!
>>
>> There. I feel better.
>
>
>Tinin. there... Happy! ;~)
>
>I is not uh a good speller. I will make no escuses fer dat. But I will
>blam my spellin checker. May be had I spended $1000 on the Domino cutter
>tool enstead of $750 I wood be a more gooder speller.
>
>I feeeel mucho beder tooo.

Goodonya,Mate.

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"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Jan 10, 12:25 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > That's cool.
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > Anybody try this yet?
>
> I think I have a better solution....the Domino.

But you're still clamping.
This is for Q&D work, not fine furniture.

Yeah that is true but I have to justify the cost of the Domino,,,, just like
Lamello is coming up with ways to justify payinf mor for their product..
LOL.

Seriousely though I have made a dozen or so picture frames and used the Kreg
jig and pocket hole screws to fasten the corners. I made the frame
material, 2 pieces, in to long moldings after staining each of the 2 pieces
different colors.

Luckily no tear out in the miters so no touch was needed and the pocket
holes closed the miters perfectly.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4262567565/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4262567669/

Robatoy wrote:

> On Jan 9, 11:36 pm, Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>> > On Jan 9, 6:09 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> That's cool.
>> >> .
>> >> .
>> >> .
>> >> Anybody try this yet?
>>
>> > What if I included the URL, eh? Eh? EH??
>>
>> >http://www.lamello.com/en/downloads/application-videos/neuheiten/fixo...
>>
>> I could have used that last week.  Very cool.  I suppose the lamello
>> biscuits won't work with Porter Cable biscuit joiners, will they?
>>
>> --
>>
>> There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
>>
>> Rob Leatham
>
> The flyer which I received in the mail, had the URL in the review.
> They claim any biscuit joiner will work.
> here's a bit more.
> http://www.lamello.com/uploads/media/Fixo_eng.pdf

Thanks. Definitely going to look into that.


--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:29:48 -0800 (PST), the infamous Robatoy
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:

>On Jan 10, 1:19 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>> On Jan 10, 12:25 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:[email protected]...
>>
>> > > That's cool.
>> > > .
>> > > .
>> > > .
>> > > Anybody try this yet?
>>
>> > I think I have a better solution....the Domino.
>>
>> But you're still clamping.
>> This is for Q&D work, not fine furniture.
>>
>> Yeah that is true but I have to justify the cost of the Domino,,,, just like
>> Lamello is coming up with ways to justify payinf mor for their product..
>> LOL.
>>
>> Seriousely though I have made a dozen or so picture frames and used the Kreg
>> jig and pocket hole screws to fasten the corners.  I made the frame
>> material, 2 pieces, in to long moldings after staining each of the 2 pieces
>> different colors.
>>
>> Luckily no tear out in the miters so no touch was needed and the pocket
>> holes closed the miters perfectly.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4262567565/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/4262567669/
>
>Just did a price check. So far... 50 cents apiece. Sooo. that little
>demo they did, the 4 flat miters and the 4 butt miters. $ 8.00.
>That still makes it Quick & Dirty, but not Cheap & Dirty.
>Hell, I can throw a band clamp on for $ 4.00.. or as you suggested,
>use the Kreg.
>Those Lamello bastards....

Didja know: They're 1/3 the price of Festeringtools.

I looked at more of the Lamello line and laughed out loud at the
InvisX. I'll bet that gets the screw as tight as a 3-year old could
manage with a screwdriver (and zero dexterity.)

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On 1/10/2010 12:19 PM, Leon wrote:

>
> Yeah that is true but I have to justify the cost of the Domino,,,, just like
> Lamello is coming up with ways to justify payinf mor for their product..

Just watched TOH and Tommy was using a Domino to make his built-in
bookcase carcases.

They were also using a Delta line boring machine to do the adjustable
shelf pin holes ... eatcherheartout, viewers!

I tuned in late, but didn't see any Festool ... :)

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