Jj

JJ

14/07/2006 2:05 PM

Blatant Gloat!

Well, I just started getting my new/used cabinet saw set up.

The story:

I saw a two hour old ad on craigslist that simply said "Tablesaw $350"
in the header. I clicked on it expecting to find an overpriced direct
drive benchtop, but my curiosity was peaked when I read the ad and it
said it was a cabinet saw with a 3HP 220V motor. No mention of brand or
model, but it did mention a Shop Fox fence, so I immediately assumed
"Grizzly". I fired off an email response inquiring as to brand,
mentioned it was probably a Grizzly, and said I would definitely buy it
if it was a model G1023, "pending inspection, of course", and that I
would come look at it and pick it up the next day.

I shortly got a response back that it was a G1023Z, and that I could
indeed come by the next day. A quick look on the Grizzly website showed
the G1023Z as the right tilt cabinet saw with the top of the line Shop
Fox fence that latches front and back.

I hitched up the trailer the next morning and drove up to see the saw.
Top had a layer of rust but no pitting. The woman said I could plug it
in and try it, but when I went to get the cord, I found it still
tie-wrapped with no plug on the end. It was still the way Grizzly ships
their 220V tools, with no plug, but the insulation on the ends cut and
ready to pull off. "When was the last time the saw was used?" I asked.
The woman said she didn't think her husband had ever used it.

I started looking a little more closely and after getting the throat
plate out (which didn't have a scratch on it), I looked inside. Not a
grain of sawdust anywhere. Pulled off the dust chute door. Same thing -
not a grain of sawdust. All there was were a few bits of styrofoam
packing and spider webs. I immediately peeled off $350 and handed it to
the lady.

Turns out, this is a 1999 (from the plate) G1023Z that is still brand
new. Had both throat plates, but no arbor wrench or manual.

Minor additional gloat. The saw was sitting on a Shop Fox heavy duty
mobile base, which was part of the deal.

To top it off, she showed me a Delta 34-190 6" jointer which was still
in the box with the strapping still around it. She said her husband had
bought it about the same time as the saw. She wanted $350 for it also,
but since I already have an 8", I declined.

-jj

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vv

"vdubbs"

in reply to JJ on 14/07/2006 2:05 PM

14/07/2006 8:49 AM


JJ wrote:
> Well, I just started getting my new/used cabinet saw set up.
>
> The story:
>
> I saw a two hour old ad on craigslist that simply said "Tablesaw $350"
> in the header. I clicked on it expecting to find an overpriced direct
> drive benchtop, but my curiosity was peaked when I read the ad and it
> said it was a cabinet saw with a 3HP 220V motor. No mention of brand or
> model, but it did mention a Shop Fox fence, so I immediately assumed
> "Grizzly". I fired off an email response inquiring as to brand,
> mentioned it was probably a Grizzly, and said I would definitely buy it
> if it was a model G1023, "pending inspection, of course", and that I
> would come look at it and pick it up the next day.
>
> I shortly got a response back that it was a G1023Z, and that I could
> indeed come by the next day. A quick look on the Grizzly website showed
> the G1023Z as the right tilt cabinet saw with the top of the line Shop
> Fox fence that latches front and back.
>
> I hitched up the trailer the next morning and drove up to see the saw.
> Top had a layer of rust but no pitting. The woman said I could plug it
> in and try it, but when I went to get the cord, I found it still
> tie-wrapped with no plug on the end. It was still the way Grizzly ships
> their 220V tools, with no plug, but the insulation on the ends cut and
> ready to pull off. "When was the last time the saw was used?" I asked.
> The woman said she didn't think her husband had ever used it.
>
> I started looking a little more closely and after getting the throat
> plate out (which didn't have a scratch on it), I looked inside. Not a
> grain of sawdust anywhere. Pulled off the dust chute door. Same thing -
> not a grain of sawdust. All there was were a few bits of styrofoam
> packing and spider webs. I immediately peeled off $350 and handed it to
> the lady.
>
> Turns out, this is a 1999 (from the plate) G1023Z that is still brand
> new. Had both throat plates, but no arbor wrench or manual.
>
> Minor additional gloat. The saw was sitting on a Shop Fox heavy duty
> mobile base, which was part of the deal.
>
> To top it off, she showed me a Delta 34-190 6" jointer which was still
> in the box with the strapping still around it. She said her husband had
> bought it about the same time as the saw. She wanted $350 for it also,
> but since I already have an 8", I declined.
>
> -jj
>
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I am supposing that the husband died or died soon after being told by
his wife she sold his tablesaw...........or that is one nasty woman to
try to divorce.

bb

"bf"

in reply to JJ on 14/07/2006 2:05 PM

14/07/2006 9:44 AM


What a great story. I just can't imagine what goes through people's
heads. The guy bought a jointer and tablesaw and they just sit there
for 7 years, never being used? LOL

So the guy probably paid around $1500 to have those things in the way
in the garage for 7 years. LOL

Ff

"Frank"

in reply to JJ on 14/07/2006 2:05 PM

14/07/2006 11:08 AM

I'm presuming the poor guy got sick soon after the purchase.

DH

Dave Hall

in reply to JJ on 14/07/2006 2:05 PM

19/07/2006 11:11 AM

No doubt in my mind that the husband either died or became seriously
incapacitated sometime in 1999 or early 2000. The wife just didn't
sell anything until now. My dad died in 1995. It took until around
1998 for my mother to give me his shop tools. His dresser still has
not been touched and all of his clothes are still in the closet. His
desk is gone into only to get out a necessary paper, which will then
most likely be stored with all of the important papers accumulated in
the last 12 years in her desk. These are not "shrines" or anything,
she just does not want to go through his stuff and figures it will be
my siblings and my problem at some point.

I hope that the sale was not initiated out of financial need, but that
the lady finally decided to part with some of her husbands items and
get them to a good home.

Dave Hall

On 14 Jul 2006 09:44:56 -0700, "bf" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>What a great story. I just can't imagine what goes through people's
>heads. The guy bought a jointer and tablesaw and they just sit there
>for 7 years, never being used? LOL
>
>So the guy probably paid around $1500 to have those things in the way
>in the garage for 7 years. LOL

IM

[email protected] (Mike_in_SD)

in reply to JJ on 14/07/2006 2:05 PM

15/07/2006 4:49 AM

[email protected] (Frank) wrote in <1152900489.582203.38500@
75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:

>I'm presuming the poor guy got sick soon after the purchase.
>


I heard a rumour that you knew the guy and stated making
him a nice home brew drink every nite .. rite before his
demise.

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to JJ on 14/07/2006 2:05 PM

14/07/2006 10:18 AM


"JJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, I just started getting my new/used cabinet saw set up.
>
> The story:
>
> I saw a two hour old ad on craigslist that simply said "Tablesaw $350" in
> the header. I clicked on it expecting to find an overpriced direct drive
> benchtop, but my curiosity was peaked when I read the ad and it said it
> was a cabinet saw with a 3HP 220V motor. No mention of brand or model, but
> it did mention a Shop Fox fence, so I immediately assumed "Grizzly". I
> fired off an email response inquiring as to brand, mentioned it was
> probably a Grizzly, and said I would definitely buy it if it was a model
> G1023, "pending inspection, of course", and that I would come look at it
> and pick it up the next day.
>
> I shortly got a response back that it was a G1023Z, and that I could
> indeed come by the next day. A quick look on the Grizzly website showed
> the G1023Z as the right tilt cabinet saw with the top of the line Shop Fox
> fence that latches front and back.
>
> I hitched up the trailer the next morning and drove up to see the saw. Top
> had a layer of rust but no pitting. The woman said I could plug it in and
> try it, but when I went to get the cord, I found it still tie-wrapped with
> no plug on the end. It was still the way Grizzly ships their 220V tools,
> with no plug, but the insulation on the ends cut and ready to pull off.
> "When was the last time the saw was used?" I asked. The woman said she
> didn't think her husband had ever used it.
>
> I started looking a little more closely and after getting the throat plate
> out (which didn't have a scratch on it), I looked inside. Not a grain of
> sawdust anywhere. Pulled off the dust chute door. Same thing - not a grain
> of sawdust. All there was were a few bits of styrofoam packing and spider
> webs. I immediately peeled off $350 and handed it to the lady.
>
> Turns out, this is a 1999 (from the plate) G1023Z that is still brand new.
> Had both throat plates, but no arbor wrench or manual.
>
> Minor additional gloat. The saw was sitting on a Shop Fox heavy duty
> mobile base, which was part of the deal.
>
> To top it off, she showed me a Delta 34-190 6" jointer which was still in
> the box with the strapping still around it. She said her husband had
> bought it about the same time as the saw. She wanted $350 for it also, but
> since I already have an 8", I declined.
>

Yep, that was a gloat.

You got yourself a seven year old, brand new cabinet saw with some rust.
And a mobile base too. You did good!

You stalked your prey and moved in for the kill like a master tool predator!

I assume that Grizzly can provide you with an arbor wrench and manual?


Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to JJ on 14/07/2006 2:05 PM

14/07/2006 11:07 AM


"JJ"
> I saw a two hour old ad on craigslist that simply said "Tablesaw $350"


Congratulation! Thou doest sucketh, big time.

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EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to JJ on 14/07/2006 2:05 PM

14/07/2006 8:04 PM


"JJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message

> Turns out, this is a 1999 (from the plate) G1023Z that is still brand new.
> Had both throat plates, but no arbor wrench or manual.

Sorry to dampen your enthusiasm, but like wine, tablesaws have good and bad
vintages. The 99 is nowhere near as good as a 97. But if you want to trade
. . . . . . . . . .

Jj

JJ

in reply to JJ on 14/07/2006 2:05 PM

14/07/2006 3:40 PM

Lee Michaels wrote:
> "JJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Well, I just started getting my new/used cabinet saw set up.
>>
>>The story:
>>
>>I saw a two hour old ad on craigslist that simply said "Tablesaw $350" in
>>the header. I clicked on it expecting to find an overpriced direct drive
>>benchtop, but my curiosity was peaked when I read the ad and it said it
>>was a cabinet saw with a 3HP 220V motor. No mention of brand or model, but
>>it did mention a Shop Fox fence, so I immediately assumed "Grizzly". I
>>fired off an email response inquiring as to brand, mentioned it was
>>probably a Grizzly, and said I would definitely buy it if it was a model
>>G1023, "pending inspection, of course", and that I would come look at it
>>and pick it up the next day.
>>
>>I shortly got a response back that it was a G1023Z, and that I could
>>indeed come by the next day. A quick look on the Grizzly website showed
>>the G1023Z as the right tilt cabinet saw with the top of the line Shop Fox
>>fence that latches front and back.
>>
>>I hitched up the trailer the next morning and drove up to see the saw. Top
>>had a layer of rust but no pitting. The woman said I could plug it in and
>>try it, but when I went to get the cord, I found it still tie-wrapped with
>>no plug on the end. It was still the way Grizzly ships their 220V tools,
>>with no plug, but the insulation on the ends cut and ready to pull off.
>>"When was the last time the saw was used?" I asked. The woman said she
>>didn't think her husband had ever used it.
>>
>>I started looking a little more closely and after getting the throat plate
>>out (which didn't have a scratch on it), I looked inside. Not a grain of
>>sawdust anywhere. Pulled off the dust chute door. Same thing - not a grain
>>of sawdust. All there was were a few bits of styrofoam packing and spider
>>webs. I immediately peeled off $350 and handed it to the lady.
>>
>>Turns out, this is a 1999 (from the plate) G1023Z that is still brand new.
>>Had both throat plates, but no arbor wrench or manual.
>>
>>Minor additional gloat. The saw was sitting on a Shop Fox heavy duty
>>mobile base, which was part of the deal.
>>
>>To top it off, she showed me a Delta 34-190 6" jointer which was still in
>>the box with the strapping still around it. She said her husband had
>>bought it about the same time as the saw. She wanted $350 for it also, but
>>since I already have an 8", I declined.
>>
>
>
> Yep, that was a gloat.
>
> You got yourself a seven year old, brand new cabinet saw with some rust.
> And a mobile base too. You did good!
>
> You stalked your prey and moved in for the kill like a master tool predator!
>
> I assume that Grizzly can provide you with an arbor wrench and manual?
>
>
>

The wrench is no problem as I have a good selection of english and
metric box end wrenches out in the shop and one of them will fit.
Grizzly has their manuals on their website in pdf format so no problem
there either.

-jj

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