In article <[email protected]>, Richard
Cline <[email protected]> wrote:
> Look how the pros ship things. For modest size packages they mostly
> ship by UPS. If you have special requirements you need to look
> elsewhere.
Be aware that when shipping across borders, particularly to Canada, UPS
is extremely expensive for the recipient. They charge outrageous
customs brokerage fees.
If a supplier in the US will only ship UPS, I decline to purchase from
them.
djb
"Mac Cool" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If anyone here ships woodwork, what type of shipping do you use or who do
> you use? Do you call up a trucking company or who? Do these places deliver
> to the door or to a dock? (I suppose probably both) Basically I'm looking
> for general shipping advice. Thanks.
> --
> Mac Cool
What are you shipping? Size and weight?
UPS is hard to beat for small packages. Truck freight is considerably more
and rates vary depending on what classification of goods you are shipping.
High volume shippers get huge discounts. Before you ship by truck, get the
proper classification. 100 pounds of wood ships at a higher rate than 100
pounds of steel that ships at a lower rate than 100 pounds of aluminum that
ships at a different rate that furniture or cellular expanded plastic
articles or fabricated sheet metal or . . . . well, you get the idea.
Knowing the density (pounds per cubic foot) of the product after crating
helps determine the classification.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
Joe N. <[email protected]> writes:
>I have used SBT Small Business Transport several times and have found them to be
>very cost effective. Their website is www.freight101.com but don't use their
>"Instant Quote" instead call them at 888-368-6022 ext 23 and speak to Melissa.
SBT is a freight broker and can obtain really good prices from the freight
companies. I shipped through them three times this spring and have
nothing but good things to say.
Melissa no longer works at SBT as far as I can tell.
Brian Elfert
Admittedly a presumption on my part. Call it rationalization instead
of presumption.
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 16:37:32 GMT, B a r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 08:32:49 -0400, "[email protected]"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>No comparison to help quantify but gut feeling is a bit pricey. I
>>felt an advantage in placing the carton in the luggage section in far
>>corner on West Coast to travel accross country to East Coast
>>destination would mimimize risk compared to transferring from truck to
>>truck.
>
>Do you really think that same bus is going all the way?
>
>Barry
In article <[email protected]>,
B a r r y <nospam*removethis*@snet.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 08:32:49 -0400, "[email protected]"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>No comparison to help quantify but gut feeling is a bit pricey. I
>>felt an advantage in placing the carton in the luggage section in far
>>corner on West Coast to travel accross country to East Coast
>>destination would mimimize risk compared to transferring from truck to
>>truck.
>
>Do you really think that same bus is going all the way?
For Chicago to Los Angles, San Francisco, or Seattle -- for the 'through'
service -- it *is* the same piece of equipment, for the entire run.
Ditto for Chicago to New York, Wash. D.C., and Philadelphia, at least.
I can't speak authoritatively about going through Chicago, but I _think_
there is a 'through' bus, where the same bus that comes in from L.A.
continues on to NYC, and vice-versa.
Everybody gets kicked off the bus at 'servicing stops' (circa 900 miles),
when they go off to gas up, empty the toilet, etc. but you do -not- have
to take your 'carry-on' gear off, and checked baggage stays aboard, too.
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 08:32:49 -0400, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>No comparison to help quantify but gut feeling is a bit pricey. I
>felt an advantage in placing the carton in the luggage section in far
>corner on West Coast to travel accross country to East Coast
>destination would mimimize risk compared to transferring from truck to
>truck.
Do you really think that same bus is going all the way?
Barry
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> said:
> Knowing the density (pounds per cubic foot) of the product after crating
> helps determine the classification.
good tip, thanks.
--
Mac Cool
"JK" <[email protected]> said:
> When FedEx started their ground service, we were excited because we
> thought that FEDEX would use the same care that they displayed with
> their overnight stuff. Well we had all sort of problems with FedEx
> ground like them taking forever to deliver the furniture.
FedEx bought RPS, which was a pretty good alternative to UPS, and
renamed it FedEx Ground. It was a long time before the two companies
integrated and they were effectively two companies for a year or more
afterward. FedEx provides excellent overnight shipping but they have
always been a step or two behind UPS. FedEx customer service for
corporate clients is atrocious. The first level people are often rude
and usually hang up if you ask to be transferred.
> As far as larger pieces, we use a large trucking company. The thing
> is, that unless you ship large orders every day, the trucking
> companies are going to charge a fortune. We don't ship large stuff
> every day, but we have a friend who owns a company that does, so the
> prices we get are a lot lower. Most trucking companies will deliver
> to residential neighborhoods for an extra charge. Some drivers won't
> take the piece off the truck, which is a little awkward for our
> customers. As for shipping companies, we use Watkins and Old
> Dominion.
thanks.
--
Mac Cool
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> said:
> I've boxed up small stuff and taken the package to Greyhound. Three
> days coast-to-coast.
Not bad. How are their prices?
--
Mac Cool
Mac Cool asks:
>"[email protected]" <[email protected]> said:
>
>> I've boxed up small stuff and taken the package to Greyhound. Three
>> days coast-to-coast.
>
>Not bad. How are their prices?
I didn't even know they still did that! Prices used to be among the lowest
going for quick, non-air shipping of modest sized items. Dunno now. Is there a
Greyhound web site?
Charlie Self
"It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from
man."
H. L. Mencken
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:52:02 GMT, Mac Cool <[email protected]> wrote:
>http://www.shipgreyhound.com/
FWIW, I know someone who was a sales exec for Greyhound package
express. He moved on to selling something else because his customer's
shipments were constantly getting pilfered, lost, and damaged.
Do they offer insurance? The problems might be regional, but it's
something to look into before shipping something important.
Barry
[email protected] (Charlie Self) said:
> I didn't even know they still did that! Prices used to be among the
> lowest going for quick, non-air shipping of modest sized items. Dunno
> now. Is there a Greyhound web site?
http://www.shipgreyhound.com/
I did a quick check, 100 lb box, 84" around, $350 value, would be $89.80
and would take 26 hours.
UPS ground would be $65.15 but would take 5 days. Next day UPS would be
$245, so Greyhound is a bargain timewise.
--
Mac Cool
Two shipments I made were insured.
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 01:54:13 GMT, B a r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:52:02 GMT, Mac Cool <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>http://www.shipgreyhound.com/
>
>FWIW, I know someone who was a sales exec for Greyhound package
>express. He moved on to selling something else because his customer's
>shipments were constantly getting pilfered, lost, and damaged.
>
>Do they offer insurance? The problems might be regional, but it's
>something to look into before shipping something important.
>
>Barry
I've boxed up small stuff and taken the package to Greyhound. Three
days coast-to-coast.
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 03:05:52 GMT, Mac Cool <[email protected]> wrote:
>If anyone here ships woodwork, what type of shipping do you use or who do
>you use? Do you call up a trucking company or who? Do these places deliver
>to the door or to a dock? (I suppose probably both) Basically I'm looking
>for general shipping advice. Thanks.
Looked at 3 days coast-coast and assumed same hardware was easiest for
them and therefore cargo. Thanks for amplification.
On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:28:56 +0000, [email protected]
(Robert Bonomi) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>B a r r y <nospam*removethis*@snet.net> wrote:
>>On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 08:32:49 -0400, "[email protected]"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>No comparison to help quantify but gut feeling is a bit pricey. I
>>>felt an advantage in placing the carton in the luggage section in far
>>>corner on West Coast to travel accross country to East Coast
>>>destination would mimimize risk compared to transferring from truck to
>>>truck.
>>
>>Do you really think that same bus is going all the way?
>
>For Chicago to Los Angles, San Francisco, or Seattle -- for the 'through'
>service -- it *is* the same piece of equipment, for the entire run.
>
>Ditto for Chicago to New York, Wash. D.C., and Philadelphia, at least.
>
>
>I can't speak authoritatively about going through Chicago, but I _think_
>there is a 'through' bus, where the same bus that comes in from L.A.
>continues on to NYC, and vice-versa.
>
>Everybody gets kicked off the bus at 'servicing stops' (circa 900 miles),
>when they go off to gas up, empty the toilet, etc. but you do -not- have
>to take your 'carry-on' gear off, and checked baggage stays aboard, too.
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 03:05:52 GMT, Mac Cool <[email protected]> wrote:
>If anyone here ships woodwork, what type of shipping do you use or who do
>you use? Do you call up a trucking company or who? Do these places deliver
>to the door or to a dock? (I suppose probably both) Basically I'm looking
>for general shipping advice. Thanks.
I have used SBT Small Business Transport several times and have found them to be
very cost effective. Their website is www.freight101.com but don't use their
"Instant Quote" instead call them at 888-368-6022 ext 23 and speak to Melissa.
If you can deliver and pick up at a nearby terminal, they are very reasonable.
I paid $162.00 to have a 350 lb bandsaw shipped from N.Carolina to Dallas,
Texas.
Joe
No comparison to help quantify but gut feeling is a bit pricey. I
felt an advantage in placing the carton in the luggage section in far
corner on West Coast to travel accross country to East Coast
destination would mimimize risk compared to transferring from truck to
truck.
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 19:11:31 GMT, Mac Cool <[email protected]> wrote:
>"[email protected]" <[email protected]> said:
>
>> I've boxed up small stuff and taken the package to Greyhound. Three
>> days coast-to-coast.
>
>Not bad. How are their prices?
On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:28:56 +0000, [email protected]
(Robert Bonomi) wrote:
>I can't speak authoritatively about going through Chicago, but I _think_
>there is a 'through' bus, where the same bus that comes in from L.A.
>continues on to NYC, and vice-versa.
I was thinking more like Portland to Portland, LA to Hartford, San
Jose to Philly, etc... I agree that there might be one or two buses
that actually do go the entire distance. With all the
"coast-to-coast" routes offered, the chance of that particular route
not hubbing and spoking was low.
FWIW, I can't imagine retrieving a large package at NYC's Port
Authority Bus Terminal, and I love going to NYC. <G>
Barry
High Mac,
We ship all over the country. Our business is making small side tables, so
most of our furniture can go UPS. The quality of UPS shipping has been a
rocky road. When we first started in 1986, all we did was get a box, and
stick the table inside and ship it. No padding or anything. As UPS grew
their quality seem to go down, so no matter how well be packaged, UPS found
a way to make it firewood. When FedEx started their ground service, we were
excited because we thought that FEDEX would use the same care that they
displayed with their overnight stuff. Well we had all sort of problems with
FedEx ground like them taking forever to deliver the furniture. This made
it very frustrating for our customers who were waiting for pieces to arrive
as Christmas presents.
Soooo, we are now back with UPS. We think they have gotten a lot better.
You still have to double box everything. We place cherry supports between
the legs, metal bars at the corners. It takes our customers almost as much
time to get it out of the box as it does for us to build the table, but they
now get there in one piece, and have been doing that (knock on wood) for a
few years now.
As far as larger pieces, we use a large trucking company. The thing is,
that unless you ship large orders every day, the trucking companies are
going to charge a fortune. We don't ship large stuff every day, but we have
a friend who owns a company that does, so the prices we get are a lot lower.
Most trucking companies will deliver to residential neighborhoods for an
extra charge. Some drivers won't take the piece off the truck, which is a
little awkward for our customers. As for shipping companies, we use Watkins
and Old Dominion.
James
Makers Of Small Table Making Software
http://www.knightlite.com/creative
"Mac Cool" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If anyone here ships woodwork, what type of shipping do you use or who do
> you use? Do you call up a trucking company or who? Do these places deliver
> to the door or to a dock? (I suppose probably both) Basically I'm looking
> for general shipping advice. Thanks.
> --
> Mac Cool