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"Paul"

12/07/2011 12:22 PM

Ok, gonna show my ignorance here

Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to have to
ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is the formula
for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.

--
Paul O.


This topic has 35 replies

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Robatoy

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 3:03 PM

On Jul 12, 6:00=A0pm, k-nuttle <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 7/12/2011 5:18 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 12, 4:48 pm, marc rosen<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
> >> On Jul 12, 3:22 pm, "Paul"<[email protected]> =A0wrote:
>
> >>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to =
have to
> >>> ask this. If I have a =A0hole I want to line with felt, what is the f=
ormula
> >>> for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>
> >>> --
> >>> Paul O.
>
> >> Are you saying you never felt the inside of a hole?
>
> >> Marc
>
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a feeling this thread just went
> > off the rails.
>
> I think you are right, but when the question was asked the direction was
> inevitable.

It does make you wonder what he is making..........

Sc

Sonny

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 1:44 PM

> Did you know they eventually, after pleading and begging, put lemon in
> the Ty-D-Bowl, mon....? *cue some steel drums, mon*- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

2 pi lemons are round. 2 lemon pis are round.

I learnt that on the farm!

Sonny

EA

"Existential Angst"

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 3:51 PM

"Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to have
> to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is the
> formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.

Felt has thickness, so technically, the calc of the hole won't be correck,
altho the diff could be negligible.

Another way to get a perfect fit with no calc at all is to cut it a bit
long, wrap it on the hole, and just cut the overlap (winding up with two
drops), for a perfect fit.
--
EA


>
> --
> Paul O.

EA

"Existential Angst"

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 7:33 PM

"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 7/12/2011 2:51 PM, Existential Angst wrote:
>> "Paul"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to
>>> have
>>> to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is the
>>> formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>>
>> Felt has thickness, so technically, the calc of the hole won't be
>> correck,
>> altho the diff could be negligible.
>
> Well technically the thickness of the felt has noting to do with the
> calculation. He wants to line the hole with felt. That distance is what
> you will need to use to cut the felt. If he cuts the felt longer than the
> perimeter of the hole it will not lay flat. If he cuts the felt shorter
> than the perimeter of the hole it will be too short. The only length that
> is important is the surface. Felt thickness will compress.
>

Yeah, but if you cut it long, and then razor it as it lines the hole, the
fit will be exact -- incl. the angle of the "wall" of the felt, if it were
substantial, would also be angularly correct! You could actually glue the
overly-long felt in the hole, making the cut very easy to coordinate.

Also, the cut doesn't have to be at all straight, bec the ends of the felt
are overlapping, and will match no matter how sloppy the cut -- as long as
the cutting knife catches both overlapped pieces. In fact, one could arger
against a perfectly straight cut, and could even do a kind of "toilet roll
tube spiral" -- depending on what's going in the hole, etc.

For one-offs, this cut'n'match is proly the preferred way. It of course
would not be efficient for production jobs.
--
EA

>
>
>
>>
>> Another way to get a perfect fit with no calc at all is to cut it a bit
>> long, wrap it on the hole, and just cut the overlap (winding up with two
>> drops), for a perfect fit.
>
> What if the hole is 1/2" in diameter or smaller?
>

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 4:49 PM


Existential Angst wrote:

> Another way to get a perfect fit with no calc at all is to cut it a
> bit
> long, wrap it on the hole, and just cut the overlap (winding up with
> two
> drops), for a perfect fit.
-----------------------------------
Standard technique used for doing "Match & Line Up" on a wall paper
job.

Works every time with no error.

Lew

Sk

Steve

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 9:03 PM

On 2011-07-12 16:32:46 -0400, willshak <[email protected]> said:

> A poor farmer worked long and hard to send his eldest son to college.

On the proud day he delivered the boy to the campus, he said to the
math professor, "Make sure he gets some of that there triggernometry.
He can't shoot worth a damn!"

EA

"Existential Angst"

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 9:31 PM

"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Existential Angst wrote:
>
>> Another way to get a perfect fit with no calc at all is to cut it a bit
>> long, wrap it on the hole, and just cut the overlap (winding up with two
>> drops), for a perfect fit.
> -----------------------------------
> Standard technique used for doing "Match & Line Up" on a wall paper job.

And, for example, how you cut blades for welding in a blade welder (with
li'l scissor/chopper) -- no worry about squareness, straightness, no
grinding, nuthin -- until the weld is done, and you grind off the flash.
--
EA


>
> Works every time with no error.
>
> Lew
>
>

EA

"Existential Angst"

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

14/07/2011 12:00 PM

"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 7/13/2011 3:54 PM, Artemus wrote:
>> "willshak"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Artemus wrote the following:
>>>> "Leon"<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>> You are not incorrect but for the fun of supposing, the OP is wanting
>>>>> to
>>>>> line a hole with felt. When does a hole transform into a larger
>>>>> opening? ;~) When I read hole, I pictred a drill bit hole, 1/4"~1/2"
>>>>> in diameter. Perhaps you pictured a 4",5",6"+ diameter hole. LOL. I
>>>>> tried to picture putting felt inside a 1/2" diameter hole, and also
>>>>> some
>>>>> how forcing a razor inside the hole. ;~)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Prezactly.
>>>> And why has everyone assumed the hole is round?
>>>> Art
>>>
>>>
>>> because he asked for the formula. If a rectangle, or triangle, all that
>>> is needed is a tape measure.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> Another unfounded assumption.
>> It could be an oval.
>> Art
>
> OR it could be 45379 and three and one half sixteenths sided. ;~O

Pretty much what I was going to say....
--
EA

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 1:26 PM

On Jul 12, 3:47=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 7/12/11 2:30 PM, Norvin Gordon wrote:
>
> > Paul wrote:
> >> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to
> >> have to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is
> >> the formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>
> > If memory serves me right.......
>
> > c=3D(pi)x d or 3.14 x dia.
>
> I always remember the difference between circumference and area by
> thinking of the Ty-D-Bol Man. =A0The Ty-D-Bol Man goes around the bowl
> (circumference).
> Ty-D rhymes with Pi(d)
>
Did you know they eventually, after pleading and begging, put lemon in
the Ty-D-Bowl, mon....? *cue some steel drums, mon*

Ll

Leon

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

13/07/2011 11:51 PM

On 7/13/2011 3:54 PM, Artemus wrote:
> "willshak"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Artemus wrote the following:
>>> "Leon"<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> You are not incorrect but for the fun of supposing, the OP is wanting to
>>>> line a hole with felt. When does a hole transform into a larger
>>>> opening? ;~) When I read hole, I pictred a drill bit hole, 1/4"~1/2"
>>>> in diameter. Perhaps you pictured a 4",5",6"+ diameter hole. LOL. I
>>>> tried to picture putting felt inside a 1/2" diameter hole, and also some
>>>> how forcing a razor inside the hole. ;~)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Prezactly.
>>> And why has everyone assumed the hole is round?
>>> Art
>>
>>
>> because he asked for the formula. If a rectangle, or triangle, all that
>> is needed is a tape measure.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bill
>
> Another unfounded assumption.
> It could be an oval.
> Art

OR it could be 45379 and three and one half sixteenths sided. ;~O

Ll

Leon

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

13/07/2011 11:48 PM

On 7/13/2011 2:42 PM, Artemus wrote:
> "Leon"<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> You are not incorrect but for the fun of supposing, the OP is wanting to
>> line a hole with felt. When does a hole transform into a larger
>> opening? ;~) When I read hole, I pictred a drill bit hole, 1/4"~1/2"
>> in diameter. Perhaps you pictured a 4",5",6"+ diameter hole. LOL. I
>> tried to picture putting felt inside a 1/2" diameter hole, and also some
>> how forcing a razor inside the hole. ;~)
>>
>
> Prezactly.
> And why has everyone assumed the hole is round?
> Art

We were all hungry and thinking about pie. ;~)

ww

willshak

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

13/07/2011 4:11 PM

Artemus wrote the following:
> "Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> You are not incorrect but for the fun of supposing, the OP is wanting to
>> line a hole with felt. When does a hole transform into a larger
>> opening? ;~) When I read hole, I pictred a drill bit hole, 1/4"~1/2"
>> in diameter. Perhaps you pictured a 4",5",6"+ diameter hole. LOL. I
>> tried to picture putting felt inside a 1/2" diameter hole, and also some
>> how forcing a razor inside the hole. ;~)
>>
>>
>
> Prezactly.
> And why has everyone assumed the hole is round?
> Art


because he asked for the formula. If a rectangle, or triangle, all that
is needed is a tape measure.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Ll

Leon

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

13/07/2011 8:00 AM

On 7/12/2011 6:33 PM, Existential Angst wrote:
> "Leon"<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 7/12/2011 2:51 PM, Existential Angst wrote:
>>> "Paul"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to
>>>> have
>>>> to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is the
>>>> formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>>>
>>> Felt has thickness, so technically, the calc of the hole won't be
>>> correck,
>>> altho the diff could be negligible.
>>
>> Well technically the thickness of the felt has noting to do with the
>> calculation. He wants to line the hole with felt. That distance is what
>> you will need to use to cut the felt. If he cuts the felt longer than the
>> perimeter of the hole it will not lay flat. If he cuts the felt shorter
>> than the perimeter of the hole it will be too short. The only length that
>> is important is the surface. Felt thickness will compress.
>>
>
> Yeah, but if you cut it long, and then razor it as it lines the hole, the
> fit will be exact -- incl. the angle of the "wall" of the felt, if it were
> substantial, would also be angularly correct! You could actually glue the
> overly-long felt in the hole, making the cut very easy to coordinate.

You are not incorrect but for the fun of supposing, the OP is wanting to
line a hole with felt. When does a hole transform into a larger
opening? ;~) When I read hole, I pictred a drill bit hole, 1/4"~1/2"
in diameter. Perhaps you pictured a 4",5",6"+ diameter hole. LOL. I
tried to picture putting felt inside a 1/2" diameter hole, and also some
how forcing a razor inside the hole. ;~)






>
> Also, the cut doesn't have to be at all straight, bec the ends of the felt
> are overlapping, and will match no matter how sloppy the cut -- as long as
> the cutting knife catches both overlapped pieces. In fact, one could arger
> against a perfectly straight cut, and could even do a kind of "toilet roll
> tube spiral" -- depending on what's going in the hole, etc.
>
> For one-offs, this cut'n'match is proly the preferred way. It of course
> would not be efficient for production jobs.

ww

willshak

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 6:30 PM

Leon wrote the following:
> On 7/12/2011 2:51 PM, Existential Angst wrote:
>> "Paul"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to
>>> have
>>> to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is the
>>> formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>>
>> Felt has thickness, so technically, the calc of the hole won't be
>> correck,
>> altho the diff could be negligible.
>
> Well technically the thickness of the felt has noting to do with the
> calculation. He wants to line the hole with felt. That distance is
> what you will need to use to cut the felt. If he cuts the felt longer
> than the perimeter of the hole it will not lay flat. If he cuts the
> felt shorter than the perimeter of the hole it will be too short. The
> only length that is important is the surface. Felt thickness will
> compress.


If - he measures the inside diameter and uses the formula for the inside
circumference to get the length of the felt.

>
>
>
>>
>> Another way to get a perfect fit with no calc at all is to cut it a bit
>> long, wrap it on the hole, and just cut the overlap (winding up with two
>> drops), for a perfect fit.
>
> What if the hole is 1/2" in diameter or smaller?
>


--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

ww

willshak

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 6:38 PM

Bill wrote the following:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 7/12/11 3:22 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 7/12/11 2:30 PM, Norvin Gordon wrote:
>>>>> Paul wrote:
>>>>>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to
>>>>>> have to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is
>>>>>> the formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>>>>>>
>>>>> If memory serves me right.......
>>>>>
>>>>> c=(pi)x d or 3.14 x dia.
>>>>
>>>> I always remember the difference between circumference and area by
>>>> thinking of the Ty-D-Bol Man. The Ty-D-Bol Man goes around the bowl
>>>> (circumference).
>>>> Ty-D rhymes with Pi(d)
>>>
>>> If you remember that there are 2*Pi radians in a circle,
>>> it also gives you C=2(Pi)r, or C=(Pi)d.
>>>
>>> If you've had calculus, thinking of the area of the circle as the
>>> collection of "skins" having thickness dr, you can integrate C dr over
>>> the interval [0,R] to get A=Pi R^2. At least, that's one way. I just
>>> mention this for the readers that are math fans.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>
>> What does that have to do with a toilet?
>>
>
> I was just offering another mnemonic device... I have nothing against
> toilets.

except your ass. :-)


--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

ww

willshak

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 4:32 PM

Bill wrote the following:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 7/12/11 2:30 PM, Norvin Gordon wrote:
>>> Paul wrote:
>>>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to
>>>> have to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is
>>>> the formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>>>>
>>> If memory serves me right.......
>>>
>>> c=(pi)x d or 3.14 x dia.
>>
>> I always remember the difference between circumference and area by
>> thinking of the Ty-D-Bol Man. The Ty-D-Bol Man goes around the bowl
>> (circumference).
>> Ty-D rhymes with Pi(d)
>
> If you remember that there are 2*Pi radians in a circle,
> it also gives you C=2(Pi)r, or C=(Pi)d.
>
> If you've had calculus, thinking of the area of the circle as the
> collection of "skins" having thickness dr, you can integrate C dr over
> the interval [0,R] to get A=Pi R^2. At least, that's one way. I just
> mention this for the readers that are math fans.
>
> Bill
>
A poor farmer worked long and hard to send his eldest son to college. He
looked forward to saying with pride that the family finally had their
first college graduate. Son grew up, went off to college. His father
continued working hard to pay the tuition.
Four years later, son came home with a diploma. Excited to know what the
son had learned, his father asked him to tell him something.
Son replied "Pi r2," which the father heard as "pie are squared."
Shocked and angered, the poor old father tore his straw hat off his head
in disgust, threw it onto the ground and yelled at his son: "You
dingbat! Pie are ROUND...cornbread are square!"


--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 5:12 PM

On Jul 12, 7:49=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> =A0Existential Angst wrote:
> > Another way to get a perfect fit with no calc at all =A0is to cut it a
> > bit
> > long, wrap it on the hole, and just cut the overlap (winding up with
> > two
> > drops), for a perfect fit.
>
> -----------------------------------
> Standard technique used for doing "Match & Line Up" on a wall paper
> job.
>
> Works every time with no error.
>
> Lew

That type of cut is often called a dutchman. (no joke here...for real)

mr

marc rosen

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 1:48 PM

On Jul 12, 3:22=A0pm, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to have=
to
> ask this. If I have a =A0hole I want to line with felt, what is the formu=
la
> for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>
> --
> Paul O.

Are you saying you never felt the inside of a hole?
=20
Marc

Rc

Robatoy

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 2:18 PM

On Jul 12, 4:48=A0pm, marc rosen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 3:22=A0pm, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to ha=
ve to
> > ask this. If I have a =A0hole I want to line with felt, what is the for=
mula
> > for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>
> > --
> > Paul O.
>
> Are you saying you never felt the inside of a hole?
>
> Marc

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a feeling this thread just went
off the rails.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

14/07/2011 5:29 AM

On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:51:07 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 7/13/2011 3:54 PM, Artemus wrote:
>> "willshak"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Artemus wrote the following:
>>>> "Leon"<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>> You are not incorrect but for the fun of supposing, the OP is wanting to
>>>>> line a hole with felt. When does a hole transform into a larger
>>>>> opening? ;~) When I read hole, I pictred a drill bit hole, 1/4"~1/2"
>>>>> in diameter. Perhaps you pictured a 4",5",6"+ diameter hole. LOL. I
>>>>> tried to picture putting felt inside a 1/2" diameter hole, and also some
>>>>> how forcing a razor inside the hole. ;~)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Prezactly.
>>>> And why has everyone assumed the hole is round?
>>>> Art
>>>
>>>
>>> because he asked for the formula. If a rectangle, or triangle, all that
>>> is needed is a tape measure.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> Another unfounded assumption.
>> It could be an oval.
>> Art
>
>OR it could be 45379 and three and one half sixteenths sided. ;~O

QUICK, HIT THE 'CONVERT TO CURVES' KEY COMBO!

--
Learning to ignore things is one of the great paths to inner peace.
-- Robert J. Sawyer

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 7:21 PM

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:45:37 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:

>Which reminds me, I've been meaning to put some felt on my toilet...

"MOM! Bill's feeling up the toilet again!"

--
Fear not those who argue but those who dodge.
-- Marie Ebner von Eschenbach

NG

Norvin Gordon

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 2:30 PM

Paul wrote:
> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to
> have to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is
> the formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>
If memory serves me right.......

c=(pi)x d or 3.14 x dia.

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 2:47 PM

On 7/12/11 2:30 PM, Norvin Gordon wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to
>> have to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is
>> the formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>>
> If memory serves me right.......
>
> c=(pi)x d or 3.14 x dia.

I always remember the difference between circumference and area by
thinking of the Ty-D-Bol Man. The Ty-D-Bol Man goes around the bowl
(circumference).
Ty-D rhymes with Pi(d)


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

BB

Bill

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 4:22 PM

-MIKE- wrote:
> On 7/12/11 2:30 PM, Norvin Gordon wrote:
>> Paul wrote:
>>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to
>>> have to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is
>>> the formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>>>
>> If memory serves me right.......
>>
>> c=(pi)x d or 3.14 x dia.
>
> I always remember the difference between circumference and area by
> thinking of the Ty-D-Bol Man. The Ty-D-Bol Man goes around the bowl
> (circumference).
> Ty-D rhymes with Pi(d)

If you remember that there are 2*Pi radians in a circle,
it also gives you C=2(Pi)r, or C=(Pi)d.

If you've had calculus, thinking of the area of the circle as the
collection of "skins" having thickness dr, you can integrate C dr over
the interval [0,R] to get A=Pi R^2. At least, that's one way. I just
mention this for the readers that are math fans.

Bill

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 4:04 PM

On 7/12/11 3:22 PM, Bill wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 7/12/11 2:30 PM, Norvin Gordon wrote:
>>> Paul wrote:
>>>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to
>>>> have to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is
>>>> the formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>>>>
>>> If memory serves me right.......
>>>
>>> c=(pi)x d or 3.14 x dia.
>>
>> I always remember the difference between circumference and area by
>> thinking of the Ty-D-Bol Man. The Ty-D-Bol Man goes around the bowl
>> (circumference).
>> Ty-D rhymes with Pi(d)
>
> If you remember that there are 2*Pi radians in a circle,
> it also gives you C=2(Pi)r, or C=(Pi)d.
>
> If you've had calculus, thinking of the area of the circle as the
> collection of "skins" having thickness dr, you can integrate C dr over
> the interval [0,R] to get A=Pi R^2. At least, that's one way. I just
> mention this for the readers that are math fans.
>
> Bill
>

What does that have to do with a toilet?


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-MIKE-

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k-nuttle

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 6:00 PM

On 7/12/2011 5:18 PM, Robatoy wrote:
> On Jul 12, 4:48 pm, marc rosen<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Jul 12, 3:22 pm, "Paul"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to have to
>>> ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is the formula
>>> for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>>
>>> --
>>> Paul O.
>>
>> Are you saying you never felt the inside of a hole?
>>
>> Marc
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a feeling this thread just went
> off the rails.

I think you are right, but when the question was asked the direction was
inevitable.

BB

Bill

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 6:25 PM

-MIKE- wrote:
> On 7/12/11 3:22 PM, Bill wrote:
>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 7/12/11 2:30 PM, Norvin Gordon wrote:
>>>> Paul wrote:
>>>>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to
>>>>> have to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is
>>>>> the formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>>>>>
>>>> If memory serves me right.......
>>>>
>>>> c=(pi)x d or 3.14 x dia.
>>>
>>> I always remember the difference between circumference and area by
>>> thinking of the Ty-D-Bol Man. The Ty-D-Bol Man goes around the bowl
>>> (circumference).
>>> Ty-D rhymes with Pi(d)
>>
>> If you remember that there are 2*Pi radians in a circle,
>> it also gives you C=2(Pi)r, or C=(Pi)d.
>>
>> If you've had calculus, thinking of the area of the circle as the
>> collection of "skins" having thickness dr, you can integrate C dr over
>> the interval [0,R] to get A=Pi R^2. At least, that's one way. I just
>> mention this for the readers that are math fans.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>
> What does that have to do with a toilet?
>

I was just offering another mnemonic device... I have nothing against
toilets.

BB

Bill

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 6:45 PM

willshak wrote:
> Bill wrote the following:
>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 7/12/11 3:22 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> On 7/12/11 2:30 PM, Norvin Gordon wrote:
>>>>>> Paul wrote:
>>>>>>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to
>>>>>>> have to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is
>>>>>>> the formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If memory serves me right.......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> c=(pi)x d or 3.14 x dia.
>>>>>
>>>>> I always remember the difference between circumference and area by
>>>>> thinking of the Ty-D-Bol Man. The Ty-D-Bol Man goes around the bowl
>>>>> (circumference).
>>>>> Ty-D rhymes with Pi(d)
>>>>
>>>> If you remember that there are 2*Pi radians in a circle,
>>>> it also gives you C=2(Pi)r, or C=(Pi)d.
>>>>
>>>> If you've had calculus, thinking of the area of the circle as the
>>>> collection of "skins" having thickness dr, you can integrate C dr over
>>>> the interval [0,R] to get A=Pi R^2. At least, that's one way. I just
>>>> mention this for the readers that are math fans.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>
>>> What does that have to do with a toilet?
>>>
>>
>> I was just offering another mnemonic device... I have nothing against
>> toilets.
>
> except your ass. :-)
>

Which reminds me, I've been meaning to put some felt on my toilet...

BB

Bill

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 6:51 PM

willshak wrote:
> Bill wrote the following:
>> willshak wrote:
>>> Bill wrote the following:
>>>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> On 7/12/11 3:22 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>>>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/12/11 2:30 PM, Norvin Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>>> Paul wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little
>>>>>>>>> embarassed to
>>>>>>>>> have to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt,
>>>>>>>>> what is
>>>>>>>>> the formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If memory serves me right.......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> c=(pi)x d or 3.14 x dia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I always remember the difference between circumference and area by
>>>>>>> thinking of the Ty-D-Bol Man. The Ty-D-Bol Man goes around the bowl
>>>>>>> (circumference).
>>>>>>> Ty-D rhymes with Pi(d)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you remember that there are 2*Pi radians in a circle,
>>>>>> it also gives you C=2(Pi)r, or C=(Pi)d.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you've had calculus, thinking of the area of the circle as the
>>>>>> collection of "skins" having thickness dr, you can integrate C dr
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> the interval [0,R] to get A=Pi R^2. At least, that's one way. I just
>>>>>> mention this for the readers that are math fans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What does that have to do with a toilet?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was just offering another mnemonic device... I have nothing against
>>>> toilets.
>>>
>>> except your ass. :-)
>>>
>>
>> Which reminds me, I've been meaning to put some felt on my toilet...
>
> Don't they still make those soft padded toilet seat covers?
>

Yeah, you mean the ones that keep the seat from staying up...lol

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 6:10 PM

On 7/12/11 5:25 PM, Bill wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 7/12/11 3:22 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 7/12/11 2:30 PM, Norvin Gordon wrote:
>>>>> Paul wrote:
>>>>>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to
>>>>>> have to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is
>>>>>> the formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>>>>>>
>>>>> If memory serves me right.......
>>>>>
>>>>> c=(pi)x d or 3.14 x dia.
>>>>
>>>> I always remember the difference between circumference and area by
>>>> thinking of the Ty-D-Bol Man. The Ty-D-Bol Man goes around the bowl
>>>> (circumference).
>>>> Ty-D rhymes with Pi(d)
>>>
>>> If you remember that there are 2*Pi radians in a circle,
>>> it also gives you C=2(Pi)r, or C=(Pi)d.
>>>
>>> If you've had calculus, thinking of the area of the circle as the
>>> collection of "skins" having thickness dr, you can integrate C dr over
>>> the interval [0,R] to get A=Pi R^2. At least, that's one way. I just
>>> mention this for the readers that are math fans.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>
>> What does that have to do with a toilet?
>>
>
> I was just offering another mnemonic device... I have nothing against
> toilets.
>

Well, I should hope not. After all they've done for us.


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"Paul"

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 7:15 PM



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Paul O.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Jul 12, 4:48 pm, marc rosen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 3:22 pm, "Paul" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to
> > have to
> > ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is the formula
> > for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>
> > --
> > Paul O.
>
> Are you saying you never felt the inside of a hole?
>
> Marc

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a feeling this thread just went
off the rails.

I think a couple times along the way. LOL! But thanks guys., a good read.

Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

13/07/2011 12:42 PM


"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> You are not incorrect but for the fun of supposing, the OP is wanting to
> line a hole with felt. When does a hole transform into a larger
> opening? ;~) When I read hole, I pictred a drill bit hole, 1/4"~1/2"
> in diameter. Perhaps you pictured a 4",5",6"+ diameter hole. LOL. I
> tried to picture putting felt inside a 1/2" diameter hole, and also some
> how forcing a razor inside the hole. ;~)
>

Prezactly.
And why has everyone assumed the hole is round?
Art


Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

13/07/2011 1:54 PM


"willshak" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Artemus wrote the following:
> > "Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >> You are not incorrect but for the fun of supposing, the OP is wanting to
> >> line a hole with felt. When does a hole transform into a larger
> >> opening? ;~) When I read hole, I pictred a drill bit hole, 1/4"~1/2"
> >> in diameter. Perhaps you pictured a 4",5",6"+ diameter hole. LOL. I
> >> tried to picture putting felt inside a 1/2" diameter hole, and also some
> >> how forcing a razor inside the hole. ;~)
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Prezactly.
> > And why has everyone assumed the hole is round?
> > Art
>
>
> because he asked for the formula. If a rectangle, or triangle, all that
> is needed is a tape measure.
>
> --
>
> Bill

Another unfounded assumption.
It could be an oval.
Art







Ll

Leon

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 5:12 PM

On 7/12/2011 2:51 PM, Existential Angst wrote:
> "Paul"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little embarassed to have
>> to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt, what is the
>> formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>
> Felt has thickness, so technically, the calc of the hole won't be correck,
> altho the diff could be negligible.

Well technically the thickness of the felt has noting to do with the
calculation. He wants to line the hole with felt. That distance is
what you will need to use to cut the felt. If he cuts the felt longer
than the perimeter of the hole it will not lay flat. If he cuts the
felt shorter than the perimeter of the hole it will be too short. The
only length that is important is the surface. Felt thickness will compress.




>
> Another way to get a perfect fit with no calc at all is to cut it a bit
> long, wrap it on the hole, and just cut the overlap (winding up with two
> drops), for a perfect fit.

What if the hole is 1/2" in diameter or smaller?

ww

willshak

in reply to "Paul" on 12/07/2011 12:22 PM

12/07/2011 6:51 PM

Bill wrote the following:
> willshak wrote:
>> Bill wrote the following:
>>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> On 7/12/11 3:22 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>>> -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/12/11 2:30 PM, Norvin Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>> Paul wrote:
>>>>>>>> Been a loooong time since math in school, and a little
>>>>>>>> embarassed to
>>>>>>>> have to ask this. If I have a hole I want to line with felt,
>>>>>>>> what is
>>>>>>>> the formula for figuring the length of felt to cut? Thanks guys.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If memory serves me right.......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> c=(pi)x d or 3.14 x dia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I always remember the difference between circumference and area by
>>>>>> thinking of the Ty-D-Bol Man. The Ty-D-Bol Man goes around the bowl
>>>>>> (circumference).
>>>>>> Ty-D rhymes with Pi(d)
>>>>>
>>>>> If you remember that there are 2*Pi radians in a circle,
>>>>> it also gives you C=2(Pi)r, or C=(Pi)d.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you've had calculus, thinking of the area of the circle as the
>>>>> collection of "skins" having thickness dr, you can integrate C dr
>>>>> over
>>>>> the interval [0,R] to get A=Pi R^2. At least, that's one way. I just
>>>>> mention this for the readers that are math fans.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What does that have to do with a toilet?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was just offering another mnemonic device... I have nothing against
>>> toilets.
>>
>> except your ass. :-)
>>
>
> Which reminds me, I've been meaning to put some felt on my toilet...

Don't they still make those soft padded toilet seat covers?


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