LH

"Lew Hodgett"

24/08/2009 12:00 AM

RE: Saw Horse




This saw horse is listed in Mother Earth.

Built several, worked quite well.

Make sure to follow cut list, there is almost 100% utilization of
2x4s.

http://tinyurl.com/moplnx

Lew



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Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

24/08/2009 8:30 AM


"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> This saw horse is listed in Mother Earth.
>>
>> Built several, worked quite well.
>>
>> Make sure to follow cut list, there is almost 100% utilization of
>> 2x4s.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/moplnx
>>
>
> I imagine building it would be fun, but what would you actually DO with it
> after you get it built? It's too cumbersome and heavy to move around - I
> guess you could build a house around it...


It really only weighs 3, 2x4 studs. I have step stools that are heavier
than that.

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

25/08/2009 6:41 AM


"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/PanelCart/

Dang Morris! You've got a lot of shop space there. Must be nice.

Sc

Sonny

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

23/08/2009 7:02 PM

> Now, if he would only reveal where to find 8' 2x4s for $2.

I get my framing stock, all kinds, free.... in the dumpsters at
construction sites. Lots of other goodies, there, also. That's
maximizing utilization.

That saw horse is not only heavy to haul around, you can't carry them
easily or stack them easily on one another, out of the way, when not
in use.

The ones I've made are relatively light weight, last years and I can
stack 5 high before they're too tall for comfortable, easy reach....
and probably less than $2 each, not counting the 10 to 15 minutes
labor it takes to make one.

Sonny

Rr

RonB

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

24/08/2009 1:37 PM

When we were building our house our framer had three wooden horses
that looked like they had been around for 20 years. Beat to hell,
full of saw cuts and open screw holes where all kinds of temporary
things had been attached. I commented on the age and he said "Yeah,
I get a year or two out of them and then make new ones."

Hg

Hoosierpopi

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

25/08/2009 11:39 AM

"probably less than $2 each, not counting the 10 to 15 minutes labor
it takes to make one."



Sonny,

You sure work cheap. at $2 for fifteen minutes of skilled labor, it
works out to minimum wage. At $16/hr, that time would equate to Four
Dollars w/o benefits.

Gooey

Hg

Hoosierpopi

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

25/08/2009 11:47 AM

" saw horse is listed in Mother Earth."


I'm sure it has its function. But absent the need for whatever it was
invented / created to do, I'll stick with my old design.

Though I would like to see details and pics on the Folding Sawhorse
mentioned here.

And details on which of the folding metal horses also mentioned here
that writer found so useful. Perhaps the yellow horses sold at Home
Depot?

zz

zxcvbob

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

24/08/2009 9:34 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> This saw horse is listed in Mother Earth.
>
> Built several, worked quite well.
>
> Make sure to follow cut list, there is almost 100% utilization of
> 2x4s.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/moplnx
>
> Lew



I got tired of having to store sawhorses, so I built a pair of folding
ones. Two three foot 2x4's for the top, hinged together at the bottom
with a pair of 3" butt hinges. The legs are 30" 1x6's, let into the
ends of the 2x4's with 12° lap joints, then glued with construction
adhesive and nailed with roofing nails.

They are immensely strong, light weight, and they fold flat when you
hang them on the wall. The top is cut from a six foot 2x4, and the legs
from a ten foot 1x6. The only waste is the little wedges that you cut
from each end of the top pieces.

(the 12° lap joints were a little hard to cut without a bandsaw)

Bob

Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

24/08/2009 2:21 PM

Leon wrote:
> "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> This saw horse is listed in Mother Earth.
>>>
>>> Built several, worked quite well.
>>>
>>> Make sure to follow cut list, there is almost 100% utilization of
>>> 2x4s.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/moplnx
>>>
>>
>> I imagine building it would be fun, but what would you actually DO
>> with it after you get it built? It's too cumbersome and heavy to
>> move around - I guess you could build a house around it...
>
>
> It really only weighs 3, 2x4 studs. I have step stools that are
> heavier than that.

You're right, of course. I was comparing it to the two plastic sawhorses I
use that weigh 2.5 pounds apiece. And upon thinking on it, I retract my
comment about "cumbersome." I figure you could disassemble the thing to
carry to the next job site.

'Course you'd have to save the nails, too, or it wouldn't be quite right.

SQ

"Stephen Quinn"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

25/08/2009 7:21 AM

Mike

> How do they stack, I can't figure it out.

At a guess - swap the legs end 2 end - single leg fits in the 'clamp'

Similar to the - Using a clamp-on vise pix - visualise the single leg as the
clampee<g>

CYA
Steve

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

25/08/2009 3:07 PM

"Morris Dovey" wrote:

> I can't recall that I've ever actually used one to support material
> being sawed...

Something the ME saw horse handles quite well since it was designed
specificfally to handle that task without suffering accidental cuts.

Lew


Ll

"Leon"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

24/08/2009 2:39 PM


"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon wrote:
>> "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>> This saw horse is listed in Mother Earth.
>>>>
>>>> Built several, worked quite well.
>>>>
>>>> Make sure to follow cut list, there is almost 100% utilization of
>>>> 2x4s.
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/moplnx
>>>>
>>>
>>> I imagine building it would be fun, but what would you actually DO
>>> with it after you get it built? It's too cumbersome and heavy to
>>> move around - I guess you could build a house around it...
>>
>>
>> It really only weighs 3, 2x4 studs. I have step stools that are
>> heavier than that.
>
> You're right, of course. I was comparing it to the two plastic sawhorses I
> use that weigh 2.5 pounds apiece. And upon thinking on it, I retract my
> comment about "cumbersome." I figure you could disassemble the thing to
> carry to the next job site.
>
> 'Course you'd have to save the nails, too, or it wouldn't be quite right.


LOL, I prefer the light weight plastic ones my self.

Rr

RonB

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

24/08/2009 11:44 AM

On Aug 23, 7:42=A0pm, notbob <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2009-08-24, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Make sure to follow cut list, there is almost 100% utilization of
> > 2x4s.
>
> Now, if he would only reveal where to find 8' 2x4s for $2.
>
> nb

$1.88 in Pittsburg, Ks. Fairly good too.

IMHO wooden horses are too much trouble and too cumbersome. I have a
set of the good, fold-able metal horses and a set of the fairly heavy
duty plastic ones. The metal ones have a 1,000 load rating when in
their lowest adjustable position and they double as a base for my part-
time assembly table. All fit well against side of my pickup bed. One
pair of wooden horses will occupy 1/2 of the bed.

Ron

nn

notbob

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

24/08/2009 12:42 AM

On 2009-08-24, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Make sure to follow cut list, there is almost 100% utilization of
> 2x4s.

Now, if he would only reveal where to find 8' 2x4s for $2.

nb

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

23/08/2009 9:14 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> This saw horse is listed in Mother Earth.
>
> Built several, worked quite well.
>
> Make sure to follow cut list, there is almost 100% utilization of
> 2x4s.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/moplnx
>
> Lew
>

They forgot to put a top on that work bench. :-)


--

-MIKE-

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MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

24/08/2009 9:50 PM

-MIKE- wrote:

> They forgot to put a top on that work bench. :-)

Want a horse with a flat work top? Try these

http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/SawHorse/

They stack, /can't/ wobble, and you'll probably need a pretty serious
saw to cut one in half. :)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

24/08/2009 10:51 PM

Morris Dovey wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>
>> They forgot to put a top on that work bench. :-)
>
> Want a horse with a flat work top? Try these
>
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/SawHorse/
>
> They stack, /can't/ wobble, and you'll probably need a pretty serious
> saw to cut one in half. :)
>

Yeah, I still like those. :-)

...especially how you can use it as a clamp.

How do they stack, I can't figure it out.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
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MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

25/08/2009 5:27 AM

Stephen Quinn wrote:
> Mike
>
>> How do they stack, I can't figure it out.
>
> At a guess - swap the legs end 2 end - single leg fits in the 'clamp'
>
> Similar to the - Using a clamp-on vise pix - visualise the single leg as the
> clampee<g>

Don't swap end-to-end. The single leg /is/ the clampee for the sawhorses
below. Each adds about 5" to the stack.

The only time I've ever stacked mine was to test stackability.

I can't recall that I've ever actually used one to support material
being sawed - what I don't cut with a stationary saw usually goes on this:

http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/PanelCart/

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

25/08/2009 6:22 AM

Upscale wrote:
> "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/PanelCart/
>
> Dang Morris! You've got a lot of shop space there. Must be nice.

You'd think so, but it's amazing how fast the place shrinks when I'm
gluing up a batch of 8'x6' solar panels. :(

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

25/08/2009 10:41 AM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Morris Dovey" wrote:
>
>> I can't recall that I've ever actually used one to support material
>> being sawed...
>
> Something the ME saw horse handles quite well since it was designed
> specificfally to handle that task without suffering accidental cuts.

I noticed that, too. If I had a TMEN horse, I'd still use my RAS (which
also seems well-designed for the task). :)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

25/08/2009 1:53 PM

Hoosierpopi wrote:
> "probably less than $2 each, not counting the 10 to 15 minutes labor
> it takes to make one."
>
>
> Sonny,
>
> You sure work cheap. at $2 for fifteen minutes of skilled labor, it
> works out to minimum wage. At $16/hr, that time would equate to Four
> Dollars w/o benefits.
>
> Gooey
>


I'm starting to understand why others think you have a reading
comprehension problem. :-)

"not counting"


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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TT

Tanus

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

25/08/2009 6:34 PM

Upscale wrote:
> "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/PanelCart/
>
> Dang Morris! You've got a lot of shop space there. Must be nice.
>
>

He's got more than shop space. Everything I've ever seen of Morris'
setup is elegantly ...engineered.. I think that's the appropriate word here.

Tanus

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

25/08/2009 6:52 PM

Tanus wrote:

> He's got more than shop space. Everything I've ever seen of Morris'
> setup is elegantly ...engineered.. I think that's the appropriate word
> here.

Thank you, but you should know that I don't bother to take photos of the
things that don't turn out so well - or the stuff that's less likely to
be interesting.

My budget is pretty tight, and most of what I might otherwise spend on
"ready-made" stuff goes into solar R&D. When I absolutely have to have
something, I look for inexpensive ways to build it for myself - which is
why you see all the 1x4, 2x4, and inexpensive plywood in my shop
equipment - and since I can't afford to waste even that, I usually build
the stuff several times in my head and on paper before I work up the
courage to make any sawdust.

Every now and then, when I have time, I take a short tour of websites
belonging to regulars here, and I've never failed to be inspired by the
ingenuity and polish of the projects I see. For anyone who's never done
that, I think you'll find a lot to admire and think about.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

24/08/2009 3:43 PM

"HeyBub" wrote:

> I imagine building it would be fun, but what would you actually DO
> with it after you get it built? It's too cumbersome and heavy to
> move around - I guess you could build a house around it...

Eat your Wheaties to start your day, then think?

Lew


Hh

"HeyBub"

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 24/08/2009 12:00 AM

24/08/2009 8:19 AM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> This saw horse is listed in Mother Earth.
>
> Built several, worked quite well.
>
> Make sure to follow cut list, there is almost 100% utilization of
> 2x4s.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/moplnx
>

I imagine building it would be fun, but what would you actually DO with it
after you get it built? It's too cumbersome and heavy to move around - I
guess you could build a house around it...


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