Although I haven't been there in a while, I noticed yesterday that Home
Depot is carrying "Formaldehyde-free" plywood now (by Columbia Forest
Products). I thought that $39.95 for a 3/4" 4' by 8' sheet was quite fair
based on the prices of similar Formaldehyde-free materials I have seen
described (and availability is another thing altogether..). My
previously-discussed sensitivity to formaldehyde makes living or working
with the "ordinary stuff " impractical. If this stuff lives up to my
expectations, if may re-open doors that I perceived were shut-off to me! I
am hopeful! : ) For $20 they will provide me with a pickup truck for 75
minutes. Question: Can I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in half
on a 30" table saw (without risking kickback)?
Bill
"Swingman" wrote
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCCdGAxz7M8&NR=1
>
> Someone had to say it! ;)
>
And you did!
Tell me, how is that Festool gizmo working out for you? ;-)
I looked at the Festool router demo at the above site. Apparently this
router has a special feature I have not seen on any other router. It plays
music!! And when routing, the music gets louder! How did they put THAT
into the router?
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:59:00 -0500, "Bill" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>How well does interior grade plywood hold up in a garage? My garshop drops
>to about 30 degrees, but the concrete floor probably gets cooler. Among
>other things, I was thinking of putting some plywood under a drill press. I
>assume that the interior grade stuff would probably be fine for jigs and
>things like that--how about a router table?
>
>Major snow storm expected to start here in the next hour or two (4 to 8
>inches)---think spring!!! : )
>
>Bill
>
Any wood stored under cover where it will not get wet will be fine.
However, it is better to store ply flat. Router tables should have a
flat and slick surface such as MDF, topped with formica.
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 00:25:08 -0800, "LDosser" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>#5 is probably the best. Couple sheets of foam on the floor or driveway,
>100" straight edge and a skill saw.
Always wondered about that since I've never tried it. Won't the skill
saw kick up a bunch of foam sheet pieces that stick to everything
because of static electricity? It alway drives me nuts trying to
dispose of static filled foam peanuts from delivery packages.
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:30:18 -0800, "LDosser" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>That's something like it, but the one I saw had a couple wheels for rolling
>the panel to the saw.
Think I remember the cart you're referring to. It was hinged at both
ends at 2' where the middle of a 4x8 sheet of wood would sit in the
cart. One would then swing the 4x8 sheet parallel to the ground and
then slide it onto a flat surface or a table saw for example.
Someone will post the link to it.
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:59:00 -0500, the infamous "Bill"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>How well does interior grade plywood hold up in a garage? My garshop drops
>to about 30 degrees, but the concrete floor probably gets cooler. Among
>other things, I was thinking of putting some plywood under a drill press. I
>assume that the interior grade stuff would probably be fine for jigs and
>things like that--how about a router table?
Most of us prefer Baltic birch for jigs and such. Ply would be fine
on the floor if it remains dry, but most ply is stable to really cold
negative temps.
>Major snow storm expected to start here in the next hour or two (4 to 8
>inches)---think spring!!! : )
A hefty rainstorm started here an hour ago. We had bursts of wind to 8
knots and we're expecting a full quarter of an inch of precipitation!
--
In order that people may be happy in their work, these three things are
needed: They must be fit for it. They must not do too much of it. And
they must have a sense of success in it.
-- John Ruskin, Pre-Raphaelitism, 1850
On 2/9/2010 1:55 PM, Pat Barber wrote:
> You can with a outfeed table like this:
>
> http://home.att.net/~mboceanside/wsb/media/163729/site1011.jpg
>
> But a safer and easier approach is still saw horses and a
> circular saw with a home made jig.
>
> http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip022500wb.html
>
> Make two jigs: (1) 96" (2)48" in length.
>
> I even like the 4x8 piece of foam on the floor and a
> circular saw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCCdGAxz7M8&NR=1
Someone had to say it! ;)
> Bill wrote:
> Question: Can I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in half
>> on a 30" table saw (without risking kickback)?
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:47:57 -0500, "Bill" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>Although I haven't been there in a while, I noticed yesterday that Home
>Depot is carrying "Formaldehyde-free" plywood now (by Columbia Forest
>Products). I thought that $39.95 for a 3/4" 4' by 8' sheet was quite fair
>based on the prices of similar Formaldehyde-free materials I have seen
>described (and availability is another thing altogether..). My
>previously-discussed sensitivity to formaldehyde makes living or working
>with the "ordinary stuff " impractical. If this stuff lives up to my
>expectations, if may re-open doors that I perceived were shut-off to me! I
>am hopeful! : ) For $20 they will provide me with a pickup truck for 75
>minutes. Question: Can I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in half
>on a 30" table saw (without risking kickback)?
>
>Bill
>
The trick is having 8 feet available in the front and 8 feet clear on
the backside, which means you should have 16+ of clear space. Ply is
unlikely to kickback, but it is prudent to have a splitter installed
and make sure the ply edge remains in contact with the fence during
the cut.
Bill wrote:
> Question: Can
> I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in half on a 30" table saw
> (without risking kickback)?
Yes. Especially when following normal precautions.
In addition, it would require a really powerful saw to throw half a sheet of
3/4" plywood instead of:
a) Cutting into the stock, or
b) Stalling the motor
On Feb 8, 5:35=A0am, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2/8/2010 6:33 AM, HeyBub wrote:
>
> > Bill wrote:
> >> =A0 =A0Question: Can
> >> I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in half on a 30" table saw
> >> (without risking kickback)?
>
> > Yes. Especially when following normal precautions.
>
> > In addition, it would require a really powerful saw to throw half a she=
et of
> > 3/4" plywood instead of:
>
> > a) Cutting into the stock, or
> > b) Stalling the motor
>
> A 3HP cabinet saw will kickback a half sheet of 3/4" ply with enough
> force to make you stop talk politics, if only momentarily. ;)
We need a "like" button on usenet. :-)
Luigi
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:48:05 +0000 (UTC), the infamous Larry Blanchard
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:54:56 -0500, Upscale wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 00:25:08 -0800, "LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>#5 is probably the best. Couple sheets of foam on the floor or driveway,
>>>100" straight edge and a skill saw.
>>
>> Always wondered about that since I've never tried it. Won't the skill
>> saw kick up a bunch of foam sheet pieces that stick to everything
>> because of static electricity? It alway drives me nuts trying to dispose
>> of static filled foam peanuts from delivery packages.
>
>Nope. Not if you mean the construction foam, the pink or blue stuff. I
>refloored a 10'X20' porch with plywood cut just that way. Set the saw so
>it only goes into the foam 1/2" or less.
Lay a piece of pipe over the foam, step on it, and create a void where
the saw blade won't cut foam. Also, use a shallow cutting depth, good
side down for the ply, and tape the back. Remove the tape toward the
cut edge so it doesn't splinter.
--
In order that people may be happy in their work, these three things are
needed: They must be fit for it. They must not do too much of it. And
they must have a sense of success in it.
-- John Ruskin, Pre-Raphaelitism, 1850
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:04:17 -0800, "LDosser" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>This reminds me of something I saw in the past year or so. Plan for a cart
>for moving plywood sheets. Cart - like hand cart - swung the sheet up
>parallel to the floor and morphed into an infeed table.
Or perhaps, a tablesaw panel lifter.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=62580&cat=1,41080,51225&ap=1
You can with a outfeed table like this:
http://home.att.net/~mboceanside/wsb/media/163729/site1011.jpg
But a safer and easier approach is still saw horses and a
circular saw with a home made jig.
http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip022500wb.html
Make two jigs: (1) 96" (2)48" in length.
I even like the 4x8 piece of foam on the floor and a
circular saw.
Bill wrote:
Question: Can I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in half
> on a 30" table saw (without risking kickback)?
On 2/8/2010 6:33 AM, HeyBub wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Question: Can
>> I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in half on a 30" table saw
>> (without risking kickback)?
>
> Yes. Especially when following normal precautions.
>
> In addition, it would require a really powerful saw to throw half a sheet of
> 3/4" plywood instead of:
>
> a) Cutting into the stock, or
> b) Stalling the motor
A 3HP cabinet saw will kickback a half sheet of 3/4" ply with enough
force to make you stop talk politics, if only momentarily. ;)
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On 2/8/2010 12:47 AM, Bill wrote:
> Although I haven't been there in a while, I noticed yesterday that Home
> Depot is carrying "Formaldehyde-free" plywood now (by Columbia Forest
> Products). I thought that $39.95 for a 3/4" 4' by 8' sheet was quite fair
> based on the prices of similar Formaldehyde-free materials I have seen
> described (and availability is another thing altogether..). My
> previously-discussed sensitivity to formaldehyde makes living or working
> with the "ordinary stuff " impractical. If this stuff lives up to my
> expectations, if may re-open doors that I perceived were shut-off to me! I
> am hopeful! : ) For $20 they will provide me with a pickup truck for 75
Yeps, you definitely haven't been there for a while. Columbia Forest
Products has been supplying Home Depot with Formaldehyde free plywood
since 2005. ;)
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On 2/9/2010 6:09 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
> "Swingman" wrote
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCCdGAxz7M8&NR=1
>>
>> Someone had to say it! ;)
>>
> And you did!
>
> Tell me, how is that Festool gizmo working out for you? ;-)
Amazing ... I generally cut a good deal of plywood, and, in basically a
one man shop, wrestling sheets onto a table saw, or anywhere, has gotten
tougher the older I get.
There are two sheetgood cuts that are always problematic on a table saw:
the cross cut that exceeds the fence's capacity and is too wide for
using the miter gauge; and those long, angled cuts that seem to pop up
in every kitchen, for corner cabinets, angled cabinets, and the shelves
that go into them.
With this saw, and with the plywood on a 4 x 8 cutting table (loaded off
the tail gate of the truck), I can "rough cut" off a cutting diagram to
manageable size in preparation for batch cutting on the table saw; or,
for those cross cuts too long/wide for the table saw, do one, two or
more "precision" cuts at a time, depending upon the thickness of the ply.
Where the FS75 REALLY shines, and with those guide rails, is making
long, accurate, angled cuts, something that is basically impossible to
do on a table saw with any degree of precision or safety.
And it is a lot cheaper than a sliding table, which still has
limitations for the above.
Plus the fact that no clamping whatsoever is needed for most cuts using
the guide rail(s) saves a ton of time.
> I looked at the Festool router demo at the above site. Apparently this
> router has a special feature I have not seen on any other router. It plays
> music!! And when routing, the music gets louder! How did they put THAT
> into the router?
Nothing surprises me about Festool these days ...
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Question: Can I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in half on a 30"
> table saw (without risking kickback)?
>
The Home Depots around here will do one or two cuts free. I have them rough
cut the sheet into a couple of pieces and do the final cutting at home.
Safer for me and easier to transport.
Luigi Zanasi wrote:
> On Feb 8, 5:35 am, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 2/8/2010 6:33 AM, HeyBub wrote:
>>
>> > Bill wrote:
>> >> Question: Can
>> >> I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in half on a 30" table saw
>> >> (without risking kickback)?
>>
>> > Yes. Especially when following normal precautions.
>>
>> > In addition, it would require a really powerful saw to throw half a sheet of
>> > 3/4" plywood instead of:
>>
>> > a) Cutting into the stock, or
>> > b) Stalling the motor
>>
>> A 3HP cabinet saw will kickback a half sheet of 3/4" ply with enough
>> force to make you stop talk politics, if only momentarily. ;)
>
> We need a "like" button on usenet. :-)
>
> Luigi
Also a "you know" button. Then my grandchildren could compose an
entire email using those two buttons with and occasional word
interspersed now and then.
--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA
Why are Chinese fortune cookies
written in English?
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:47:57 -0500, "Bill" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>minutes. Question: Can I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in half
>on a 30" table saw (without risking kickback)?
You can probably do it without a partner if you go about it the right
way. However, kickbacks can happen even when the safest precautions
have been taken.
That said you can use one of more of the following methods:
1) Don't feed the plywood from right behind it where a kickback might
throw the wood.
2) Have a properly working splitter on the tablesaw.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=51151&cat=1,41080,51225&ap=1
3a) Use kickback pawls on the tablesaw.
3b) Use antikickback rollers on the wood when feeding the wood.
http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2003794/17799/Anti-Kickback-Safety-Roller--Yellow---Clockwise.aspx
3c) Use featherboards on the top of the plywood sheet to hold it down.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=55999&cat=1,42363,42356
4) Use infeed and outfeed tables or supports for cutting (or the help
of a partner)
5) Cut the plywood in half off the tablesaw (handsaw, jigsaw,
powersaw) and then cut the halves to size on the tablesaw.
I'm sure there's a few more safety precautions you can take, but these
above should get you started.
"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Although I haven't been there in a while, I noticed yesterday
> that Home Depot is carrying "Formaldehyde-free" plywood now (by
> Columbia Forest Products). I thought that $39.95 for a 3/4" 4'
> by 8' sheet was quite fair based on the prices of similar
> Formaldehyde-free materials I have seen described (and
> availability is another thing altogether..). My
> previously-discussed sensitivity to formaldehyde makes living or
> working with the "ordinary stuff " impractical. If this stuff
> lives up to my expectations, if may re-open doors that I
> perceived were shut-off to me! I am hopeful! : ) For $20
> they will provide me with a pickup truck for 75 minutes.
> Question: Can I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in half
> on a 30" table saw (without risking kickback)?
>
> Bill
>
The weight of a full sheet, or even half sheet would make kickback
on most contractor's saws (120v) minor. Just keep out of the way
and use outfeed rollers or table, along with something at the
side. When I had a shop, I built a little 12X30" table just the
height of the TS and kept it to the left of the TS. A couple
shelves in the table really added to its utility.
--
Nonny
ELOQUIDIOT (n) A highly educated, sophisticated,
and articulate person who has absolutely no clue
concerning what they are talking about.
The person is typically a media commentator or politician.
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:37:10 -0600, the infamous Swingman
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On 2/9/2010 1:55 PM, Pat Barber wrote:
>> You can with a outfeed table like this:
>>
>> http://home.att.net/~mboceanside/wsb/media/163729/site1011.jpg
>>
>> But a safer and easier approach is still saw horses and a
>> circular saw with a home made jig.
>>
>> http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip022500wb.html
>>
>> Make two jigs: (1) 96" (2)48" in length.
Damn! I relied on my dexterity to make the 90 degree transition the
last time I did a prefab countertop. I'll build one of those jigs for
the next one, that's for sure. It turned out fine, but it was a real
stress point for me. (BTW, any sharp blade will make a perfect cut in
laminate. You don't need a gazillion tooth plywood blade. A 24-tooth
B&D Piranha blade made my cut for me without a hitch.)
>> I even like the 4x8 piece of foam on the floor and a
>> circular saw.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCCdGAxz7M8&NR=1
>
>Someone had to say it! ;)
You Festeringtool addicts, I swear. ;)
Have you and Toy been here? <heh heh heh>
http://www.festooljunkie.com/index.htm
--
In order that people may be happy in their work, these three things are
needed: They must be fit for it. They must not do too much of it. And
they must have a sense of success in it.
-- John Ruskin, Pre-Raphaelitism, 1850
In article <[email protected]>,
Lee Michaels <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I looked at the Festool router demo at the above site. Apparently this
>router has a special feature I have not seen on any other router. It plays
>music!! And when routing, the music gets louder! How did they put THAT
>into the router?
>
It's not _really_ all that difficult to get a song out of a power tool.
All you need is a bearing that is a little out.
Hit the power switch, and you get....
"Squealings....
Nothing more than squealings...
ow,, ow, ow. squealings...."
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:47:57 -0500, "Bill" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>minutes. Question: Can I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in
>>half
>>on a 30" table saw (without risking kickback)?
>
> You can probably do it without a partner if you go about it the right
> way. However, kickbacks can happen even when the safest precautions
> have been taken.
>
> That said you can use one of more of the following methods:
>
> 1) Don't feed the plywood from right behind it where a kickback might
> throw the wood.
>
> 2) Have a properly working splitter on the tablesaw.
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=51151&cat=1,41080,51225&ap=1
>
> 3a) Use kickback pawls on the tablesaw.
>
> 3b) Use antikickback rollers on the wood when feeding the wood.
> http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2003794/17799/Anti-Kickback-Safety-Roller--Yellow---Clockwise.aspx
>
> 3c) Use featherboards on the top of the plywood sheet to hold it down.
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=55999&cat=1,42363,42356
>
> 4) Use infeed and outfeed tables or supports for cutting (or the help
> of a partner)
>
> 5) Cut the plywood in half off the tablesaw (handsaw, jigsaw,
> powersaw) and then cut the halves to size on the tablesaw.
#5 is probably the best. Couple sheets of foam on the floor or driveway,
100" straight edge and a skill saw.
Swingman wrote:
> On 2/8/2010 12:47 AM, Bill wrote:
>> Although I haven't been there in a while, I noticed yesterday that Home
>> Depot is carrying "Formaldehyde-free" plywood now (by Columbia Forest
>> Products). I thought that $39.95 for a 3/4" 4' by 8' sheet was quite
>> fair
>> based on the prices of similar Formaldehyde-free materials I have seen
>> described (and availability is another thing altogether..). My
>> previously-discussed sensitivity to formaldehyde makes living or working
>> with the "ordinary stuff " impractical. If this stuff lives up to my
>> expectations, if may re-open doors that I perceived were shut-off to
>> me! I
>> am hopeful! : ) For $20 they will provide me with a pickup truck
>> for 75
>
> Yeps, you definitely haven't been there for a while. Columbia Forest
> Products has been supplying Home Depot with Formaldehyde free plywood
> since 2005. ;)
The Formaldehyde Departme..,oops I mean the Eco-friendly Fabricated
Building Materials departments is an area I have tended to avoid ; )
I've been carefully inching my way back since I bought a house. I wore
a dust mask at the Woodworkers Show this year and had no problems
(unlike the previous 2 years).
Bill
On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:54:56 -0500, Upscale wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 00:25:08 -0800, "LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>#5 is probably the best. Couple sheets of foam on the floor or driveway,
>>100" straight edge and a skill saw.
>
> Always wondered about that since I've never tried it. Won't the skill
> saw kick up a bunch of foam sheet pieces that stick to everything
> because of static electricity? It alway drives me nuts trying to dispose
> of static filled foam peanuts from delivery packages.
Nope. Not if you mean the construction foam, the pink or blue stuff. I
refloored a 10'X20' porch with plywood cut just that way. Set the saw so
it only goes into the foam 1/2" or less.
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Although I haven't been there in a while, I noticed yesterday that Home
> Depot is carrying "Formaldehyde-free" plywood now (by Columbia Forest
> Products). I thought that $39.95 for a 3/4" 4' by 8' sheet was quite
> fair based on the prices of similar Formaldehyde-free materials I have
> seen described (and availability is another thing altogether..).
What did not occur to me until after I posted, since I haven't bought much
plywood,
is that what I was looking at was surely not "exterior grade"--I recall
seeing some
formaldehyde-free exterior grade plywood online once, and it was around $80
a sheet,
and just available to wholesalers. Still it's nice to know that HD has the
interior grade
plywood.
Bill
How well does interior grade plywood hold up in a garage? My garshop drops
to about 30 degrees, but the concrete floor probably gets cooler. Among
other things, I was thinking of putting some plywood under a drill press. I
assume that the interior grade stuff would probably be fine for jigs and
things like that--how about a router table?
Major snow storm expected to start here in the next hour or two (4 to 8
inches)---think spring!!! : )
Bill
"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:54:56 -0500, Upscale wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 00:25:08 -0800, "LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>#5 is probably the best. Couple sheets of foam on the floor or driveway,
>>>100" straight edge and a skill saw.
>>
>> Always wondered about that since I've never tried it. Won't the skill
>> saw kick up a bunch of foam sheet pieces that stick to everything
>> because of static electricity? It alway drives me nuts trying to dispose
>> of static filled foam peanuts from delivery packages.
>
> Nope. Not if you mean the construction foam, the pink or blue stuff. I
> refloored a 10'X20' porch with plywood cut just that way. Set the saw so
> it only goes into the foam 1/2" or less.
>
Definitely the pink or blue foam. In a pinch the beaded stuff is ok, but
there is the mess. I just always found it simpler to 'rip' a sheet of
plywood this way. That said, if the cut is within safe reaching distance, I
prefer to lay the sheet on saw horses rather than wrestle it onto the table
saw or crawl on it on the floor.
"Nonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Although I haven't been there in a while, I noticed yesterday that Home
>> Depot is carrying "Formaldehyde-free" plywood now (by Columbia Forest
>> Products). I thought that $39.95 for a 3/4" 4' by 8' sheet was quite
>> fair based on the prices of similar Formaldehyde-free materials I have
>> seen described (and availability is another thing altogether..). My
>> previously-discussed sensitivity to formaldehyde makes living or working
>> with the "ordinary stuff " impractical. If this stuff lives up to my
>> expectations, if may re-open doors that I perceived were shut-off to me!
>> I am hopeful! : ) For $20 they will provide me with a pickup truck for
>> 75 minutes. Question: Can I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in
>> half on a 30" table saw (without risking kickback)?
>>
>> Bill
>>
> The weight of a full sheet, or even half sheet would make kickback on most
> contractor's saws (120v) minor. Just keep out of the way and use outfeed
> rollers or table, along with something at the side. When I had a shop, I
> built a little 12X30" table just the height of the TS and kept it to the
> left of the TS. A couple shelves in the table really added to its
> utility.
>
> --
> Nonny
>
> ELOQUIDIOT (n) A highly educated, sophisticated,
> and articulate person who has absolutely no clue
> concerning what they are talking about.
> The person is typically a media commentator or politician.
>
>
This reminds me of something I saw in the past year or so. Plan for a cart
for moving plywood sheets. Cart - like hand cart - swung the sheet up
parallel to the floor and morphed into an infeed table.
Shopnotes?
"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How well does interior grade plywood hold up in a garage? My garshop
> drops to about 30 degrees, but the concrete floor probably gets cooler.
> Among other things, I was thinking of putting some plywood under a drill
> press. I assume that the interior grade stuff would probably be fine for
> jigs and things like that--how about a router table?
If you cover it with melamine or similar. As is, it has too much stiction.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:04:17 -0800, "LDosser" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>This reminds me of something I saw in the past year or so. Plan for a cart
>>for moving plywood sheets. Cart - like hand cart - swung the sheet up
>>parallel to the floor and morphed into an infeed table.
>
> Or perhaps, a tablesaw panel lifter.
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=62580&cat=1,41080,51225&ap=1
That's something like it, but the one I saw had a couple wheels for rolling
the panel to the saw.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:30:18 -0800, "LDosser" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>That's something like it, but the one I saw had a couple wheels for
>>rolling
>>the panel to the saw.
>
> Think I remember the cart you're referring to. It was hinged at both
> ends at 2' where the middle of a 4x8 sheet of wood would sit in the
> cart. One would then swing the 4x8 sheet parallel to the ground and
> then slide it onto a flat surface or a table saw for example.
Sounds like.
>
> Someone will post the link to it.
I searched, but didn't find anything close.
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> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> How well does interior grade plywood hold up in a garage? My garshop
>> drops to about 30 degrees, but the concrete floor probably gets cooler.
>> Among other things, I was thinking of putting some plywood under a drill
>> press. I assume that the interior grade stuff would probably be fine for
>> jigs and things like that--how about a router table?
>
> If you cover it with melamine or similar. As is, it has too much stiction.
So you are saying that it would maintain its structural integrity?
Bill
On 2/9/2010 5:52 AM, LDosser wrote:
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:30:18 -0800, "LDosser" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's something like it, but the one I saw had a couple wheels for
>>> rolling
>>> the panel to the saw.
>>
>> Think I remember the cart you're referring to. It was hinged at both
>> ends at 2' where the middle of a 4x8 sheet of wood would sit in the
>> cart. One would then swing the 4x8 sheet parallel to the ground and
>> then slide it onto a flat surface or a table saw for example.
>
> Sounds like.
>
>>
>> Someone will post the link to it.
>
> I searched, but didn't find anything close.
I kinda like this one:
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/PanelCart/
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Bill wrote:
> "LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> How well does interior grade plywood hold up in a garage? My
>>> garshop drops to about 30 degrees, but the concrete floor probably
>>> gets cooler. Among other things, I was thinking of putting some
>>> plywood under a drill press. I assume that the interior grade stuff
>>> would probably be fine for jigs and things like that--how about a
>>> router table?
>>
>> If you cover it with melamine or similar. As is, it has too much
>> stiction.
>
> So you are saying that it would maintain its structural integrity?
Does it get wet? If not then it will do fine.
"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2/9/2010 5:52 AM, LDosser wrote:
>> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:30:18 -0800, "LDosser" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's something like it, but the one I saw had a couple wheels for
>>>> rolling
>>>> the panel to the saw.
>>>
>>> Think I remember the cart you're referring to. It was hinged at both
>>> ends at 2' where the middle of a 4x8 sheet of wood would sit in the
>>> cart. One would then swing the 4x8 sheet parallel to the ground and
>>> then slide it onto a flat surface or a table saw for example.
>>
>> Sounds like.
>>
>>>
>>> Someone will post the link to it.
>>
>> I searched, but didn't find anything close.
>
> I kinda like this one:
>
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/PanelCart/
>
That's what I'm talking about!!
Morris Dovey wrote:
> On 2/9/2010 2:03 PM, Upscale wrote:
>
>> Playing innocent there Morris? :) Of course, your's is the one I
>> remember.
>
> There are others nicer than mine, but it's difficult to beat the price
> of a couple of 2x4s and a 2x6.
>
Whether you use expensive wood or cheap wood,
the idea is "priceless"! :)
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> Bill wrote:
>> "LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> How well does interior grade plywood hold up in a garage? My
>>>> garshop drops to about 30 degrees, but the concrete floor probably
>>>> gets cooler. Among other things, I was thinking of putting some
>>>> plywood under a drill press. I assume that the interior grade stuff
>>>> would probably be fine for jigs and things like that--how about a
>>>> router table?
>>>
>>> If you cover it with melamine or similar. As is, it has too much
>>> stiction.
>>
>> So you are saying that it would maintain its structural integrity?
>
> Does it get wet? If not then it will do fine.
>
Would you use a plywood surface for a router table?
LDosser wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Bill wrote:
>>> "LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> How well does interior grade plywood hold up in a garage? My
>>>>> garshop drops to about 30 degrees, but the concrete floor probably
>>>>> gets cooler. Among other things, I was thinking of putting some
>>>>> plywood under a drill press. I assume that the interior grade
>>>>> stuff would probably be fine for jigs and things like that--how
>>>>> about a router table?
>>>>
>>>> If you cover it with melamine or similar. As is, it has too much
>>>> stiction.
>>>
>>> So you are saying that it would maintain its structural integrity?
>>
>> Does it get wet? If not then it will do fine.
>>
>
>
> Would you use a plywood surface for a router table.
If its covered with melamine or the like. I used MDF on mine--it works
fine.
"Jim Weisgram" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:04:17 -0800, "LDosser" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>"Nonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> Although I haven't been there in a while, I noticed yesterday that Home
>>>> Depot is carrying "Formaldehyde-free" plywood now (by Columbia Forest
>>>> Products). I thought that $39.95 for a 3/4" 4' by 8' sheet was quite
>>>> fair based on the prices of similar Formaldehyde-free materials I have
>>>> seen described (and availability is another thing altogether..). My
>>>> previously-discussed sensitivity to formaldehyde makes living or
>>>> working
>>>> with the "ordinary stuff " impractical. If this stuff lives up to my
>>>> expectations, if may re-open doors that I perceived were shut-off to
>>>> me!
>>>> I am hopeful! : ) For $20 they will provide me with a pickup truck
>>>> for
>>>> 75 minutes. Question: Can I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in
>>>> half on a 30" table saw (without risking kickback)?
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>> The weight of a full sheet, or even half sheet would make kickback on
>>> most
>>> contractor's saws (120v) minor. Just keep out of the way and use
>>> outfeed
>>> rollers or table, along with something at the side. When I had a shop,
>>> I
>>> built a little 12X30" table just the height of the TS and kept it to the
>>> left of the TS. A couple shelves in the table really added to its
>>> utility.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nonny
>>>
>>> ELOQUIDIOT (n) A highly educated, sophisticated,
>>> and articulate person who has absolutely no clue
>>> concerning what they are talking about.
>>> The person is typically a media commentator or politician.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>This reminds me of something I saw in the past year or so. Plan for a cart
>>for moving plywood sheets. Cart - like hand cart - swung the sheet up
>>parallel to the floor and morphed into an infeed table.
>>
>>Shopnotes?
>
> This one?
> http://www.shopnotes.com/plans/3-ways-to-better-handle-sheet-goods/
>
> Doesn't quite fit the description, but I think the cart could be
> modified to be an infeed table if desired, with some swing down legs.
I think that is the one I remembered. Looks like I imagineered the infeed
table part ...
Morris' cart is much better!
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:25:37 -0600, Morris Dovey <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>> Think I remember the cart you're referring to. It was hinged at both
>>> ends at 2' where the middle of a 4x8 sheet of wood would sit in the
>>> cart. One would then swing the 4x8 sheet parallel to the ground and
>>> then slide it onto a flat surface or a table saw for example.
>I kinda like this one:
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/PanelCart/
Playing innocent there Morris? :) Of course, your's is the one I
remember.
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:04:17 -0800, "LDosser" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Nonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Although I haven't been there in a while, I noticed yesterday that Home
>>> Depot is carrying "Formaldehyde-free" plywood now (by Columbia Forest
>>> Products). I thought that $39.95 for a 3/4" 4' by 8' sheet was quite
>>> fair based on the prices of similar Formaldehyde-free materials I have
>>> seen described (and availability is another thing altogether..). My
>>> previously-discussed sensitivity to formaldehyde makes living or working
>>> with the "ordinary stuff " impractical. If this stuff lives up to my
>>> expectations, if may re-open doors that I perceived were shut-off to me!
>>> I am hopeful! : ) For $20 they will provide me with a pickup truck for
>>> 75 minutes. Question: Can I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in
>>> half on a 30" table saw (without risking kickback)?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>> The weight of a full sheet, or even half sheet would make kickback on most
>> contractor's saws (120v) minor. Just keep out of the way and use outfeed
>> rollers or table, along with something at the side. When I had a shop, I
>> built a little 12X30" table just the height of the TS and kept it to the
>> left of the TS. A couple shelves in the table really added to its
>> utility.
>>
>> --
>> Nonny
>>
>> ELOQUIDIOT (n) A highly educated, sophisticated,
>> and articulate person who has absolutely no clue
>> concerning what they are talking about.
>> The person is typically a media commentator or politician.
>>
>>
>
>
>This reminds me of something I saw in the past year or so. Plan for a cart
>for moving plywood sheets. Cart - like hand cart - swung the sheet up
>parallel to the floor and morphed into an infeed table.
>
>Shopnotes?
This one?
http://www.shopnotes.com/plans/3-ways-to-better-handle-sheet-goods/
Doesn't quite fit the description, but I think the cart could be
modified to be an infeed table if desired, with some swing down legs.
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:47:57 -0500, the infamous "Bill"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>Although I haven't been there in a while, I noticed yesterday that Home
>Depot is carrying "Formaldehyde-free" plywood now (by Columbia Forest
>Products). I thought that $39.95 for a 3/4" 4' by 8' sheet was quite fair
>based on the prices of similar Formaldehyde-free materials I have seen
>described (and availability is another thing altogether..). My
>previously-discussed sensitivity to formaldehyde makes living or working
>with the "ordinary stuff " impractical. If this stuff lives up to my
>expectations, if may re-open doors that I perceived were shut-off to me! I
>am hopeful! : ) For $20 they will provide me with a pickup truck for 75
>minutes. Question: Can I, with a partner, safely cut a full sheet in half
>on a 30" table saw (without risking kickback)?
If your table saw can kick a full sheet of 3/4" ply at you, it's gotta
be at least 20 horsepower.
I use a straightedge and skilsaw to piece plywood, OSB, and doorskins
'cuz Dina's butt isn't that wide or deep.
--
In order that people may be happy in their work, these three things are
needed: They must be fit for it. They must not do too much of it. And
they must have a sense of success in it.
-- John Ruskin, Pre-Raphaelitism, 1850