The local HD assembled an end-of-aisle display full of Ridgid's new handheld
powertools. Most of them were very similar to their Ryobi counterparts and
I wasn't too impressed. But I noticed that the 6" ros, hammer drill, and
jig saw were made in Germany. In fact, the jig saw looked remarkably like
the Bosch 1589 with the quick blade release (which Bosch chose not to
release in the US). For the price, they seemed like good values.
Anyway I picked a $100 router, but they were out of stock on the PC sawzalls
that can twist in several directions. Not too bad of a trip though.
They look like Ryobi tools, different color. twice the price.
Just like Black and Decker and Dewalt.
I will rather stay away from Ryobi tools in Rigid outfit.
"AL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The local HD assembled an end-of-aisle display full of Ridgid's new
handheld
> powertools. Most of them were very similar to their Ryobi counterparts
and
> I wasn't too impressed. But I noticed that the 6" ros, hammer drill, and
> jig saw were made in Germany. In fact, the jig saw looked remarkably like
> the Bosch 1589 with the quick blade release (which Bosch chose not to
> release in the US). For the price, they seemed like good values.
>
> Anyway I picked a $100 router, but they were out of stock on the PC
sawzalls
> that can twist in several directions. Not too bad of a trip though.
>
>
I was at Home Depot last week and saw a Rigid representative drive up and park
next to me. So, I took the oppurtunity to ask her about the new line.She said
the are the same as Ryobi, coming from the same factory. She said the new stuff
has a 2 year warranty, verses the old stuff, lifetime. She said if you can find
the old line at a Home Depot that is slower (sales wise). Yes, this was all
coming from a Rigid Rep.
John
Still wouldn't get yer hopes up. I have an older Craftsman TS. It has the
XR-2424 fence and was built by Emerson. The Ridgid TS, also made by
Emerson, has the exact same fence as mine. If the parent company owned the
designs, Emerson wouldn't be able to use the same fence for another
customer. Then again, all depends on how the contract was written.
Robert
"Fred the Red Shirt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "2manytoyz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > I doubt it. That was made by Emerson Electric, who lost the contract.
The
> > new company may come out with another version, but it likely won't be
too
> > close to the original design. FWIW, I have one and really like it. No,
> > it's not industrial by any means, but it works very well. I'd buy it
again.
> > Had mine about two years now, used it again today. The dust collection
port
> > works surprisingly well. I looked at the Delta BOSS, thought this one
had
> > more for the money, no regrets.
> >
>
> I would assume that the RIdge Tool company owns the patents on the design
> so that they could contract out the fabrication of the Rigid design to
> Ryobi, as opposed to simply having Ryobi put the Rigid name and colors on
> a Ryobi design.
>
> So I remain hopeful.
>
> --
>
> FF
>
I doubt it. That was made by Emerson Electric, who lost the contract. The
new company may come out with another version, but it likely won't be too
close to the original design. FWIW, I have one and really like it. No,
it's not industrial by any means, but it works very well. I'd buy it again.
Had mine about two years now, used it again today. The dust collection port
works surprisingly well. I looked at the Delta BOSS, thought this one had
more for the money, no regrets.
Robert
"Fred the Red Shirt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Any idea if they are going to continue the benchtop belt sander?
>
> I liked the layout of the tool, but though the construction was a bit
> flimsy.
>
> --
>
> FF
>
On 2003/10/9 9:53 PM, "Mapdude" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The website is fine if you use IE.
>
>
>
>
>>> The website is screwed up (relies on javascript) but the picture
>>> looks like the old model in the new color scheme.
You must be talking about IE on a Windows system. The web site has problems
under IE on a Mac, better than with Safari but there are still problems with
resizing a window and some of the navigation doesn't work.
MS IE does so many things wrong that saying a web site works fine with IE is
not much of a recommendation.
A recent email newsletter from American Woodworker, Popular Woodworking,
etc. (I forget which one) said that TTI/OWT not just made Ryobi tools but
also made some tools for Fein and Metabo. Maybe this is an example.
> Looks like Ridgid have re-labelled at least the Jigsaw, ROS and some
> others from Metabo. English site at
> http://www.metabo.co.uk/uk/produkte/katalog/
> In Europe Metabo are recognized as premium quality tools.
>
> Rgds
>
> Noel
"2manytoyz" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> If the parent company owned the
> designs, Emerson wouldn't be able to use the same fence for another
> customer.
Well you also have to take into account the fact that Ryobi will sell
existing designs cheaper than new designs to Home Depot because of
development costs. If the old design is more expensive through Ryobi,
you can bet HD will stay away from it regardless of quality, since all
they care about are profit margins.
-Mike
"AL" <[email protected]> wrote
> The local HD assembled an end-of-aisle display full of Ridgid's new handheld
> powertools. Most of them were very similar to their Ryobi counterparts and
> I wasn't too impressed. But I noticed that the 6" ros, hammer drill, and
> jig saw were made in Germany. In fact, the jig saw looked remarkably like
> the Bosch 1589 with the quick blade release (which Bosch chose not to
> release in the US). For the price, they seemed like good values.
>
I'm not familiar with Ridgid tools because they are not available in
(middle) Europe. The R3120 jigsaw displayed on their website looks
exactly like the Metabo STEB 105 Plus.
http://www.metabo.de/metabo/de/de/produkte/stichsaegen/710wattelektronikpendelstichsaegesteb105plus_6-10600-50.html
Regards,
Christian
[email protected] (Christian Aufreiter) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "AL" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> > The local HD assembled an end-of-aisle display full of Ridgid's new handheld
> > powertools. Most of them were very similar to their Ryobi counterparts and
> > I wasn't too impressed. But I noticed that the 6" ros, hammer drill, and
> > jig saw were made in Germany. In fact, the jig saw looked remarkably like
> > the Bosch 1589 with the quick blade release (which Bosch chose not to
> > release in the US). For the price, they seemed like good values.
> >
> I'm not familiar with Ridgid tools because they are not available in
> (middle) Europe. The R3120 jigsaw displayed on their website looks
> exactly like the Metabo STEB 105 Plus.
>
Yip,
Looks like Ridgid have re-labelled at least the Jigsaw, ROS and some
others from Metabo. English site at
http://www.metabo.co.uk/uk/produkte/katalog/
In Europe Metabo are recognized as premium quality tools.
Rgds
Noel
j <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I've seen some of the hand tools and was not overly impressed. This week
> end I saw the new 3650 Table Saw. For $595 you get real T slots, an
> enclosed blade undeneath for dust collection and Highly polished top.The
> winges are cast but not wafel although they do have three elongated
> holes aligned fron to back closer to the main table., Oh yea, and a
> three year warantee )-8
>
Any idea if they are going to continue the benchtop belt sander?
I liked the layout of the tool, but though the construction was a bit
flimsy.
--
FF
"2manytoyz" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I doubt it. That was made by Emerson Electric, who lost the contract. The
> new company may come out with another version, but it likely won't be too
> close to the original design. FWIW, I have one and really like it. No,
> it's not industrial by any means, but it works very well. I'd buy it again.
> Had mine about two years now, used it again today. The dust collection port
> works surprisingly well. I looked at the Delta BOSS, thought this one had
> more for the money, no regrets.
>
I would assume that the RIdge Tool company owns the patents on the design
so that they could contract out the fabrication of the Rigid design to
Ryobi, as opposed to simply having Ryobi put the Rigid name and colors on
a Ryobi design.
So I remain hopeful.
--
FF
[email protected] (Mike Reed) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "2manytoyz" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > If the parent company owned the
> > designs, Emerson wouldn't be able to use the same fence for another
> > customer.
>
> Well you also have to take into account the fact that Ryobi will sell
> existing designs cheaper than new designs to Home Depot because of
> development costs. If the old design is more expensive through Ryobi,
> you can bet HD will stay away from it regardless of quality, since all
> they care about are profit margins.
>
It is clear that over the years the Sears product line has been clones
or minor mods of the manufacturer's pre-existing designs. The Ridge
Tool Company has only recently come out with this line of power tools
so we do not have an established pattern.
As far as I know Rigid Hand Tools remain good quality today so it seems
odd that the company would put it's name on something as shoddy as the
lathe. But they did. So, yeah, I'm not going to get my hopes up for
any improvements in the product line.
--
FF
"2manytoyz" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Well, Ridgid updated their website. Their brand of tools now sport some
> orange paint. Glad to see that my jointer survived and I should be able to
> get blades at least in the near term. The bad news is no sign of the
> oscillating sander. At least the drums & belt are a common size. You might
> send them an e-mail to see if they plan on repainting it and selling it
> again too.
>
Aha!
http://www.ridgid.com/MenuDriver.asp?ParentID=496
The website is screwed up (relies on javascript) but the picture
looks like the old model in the new color scheme.
--
FF
Mapdude <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> The website is fine if you use IE.
>
I observed that myself. However any website that only works right
with a specific browser is screwed up, as is any website that depends
on javascript as surfing with javashit enabled is pretty darned
insecure.
--
FF
>
>
>
> >>The website is screwed up (relies on javascript) but the picture
> >>looks like the old model in the new color scheme.
> >>
> >>--
> >>
> >>FF
> >>
> >
> >
> >
Well, Ridgid updated their website. Their brand of tools now sport some
orange paint. Glad to see that my jointer survived and I should be able to
get blades at least in the near term. The bad news is no sign of the
oscillating sander. At least the drums & belt are a common size. You might
send them an e-mail to see if they plan on repainting it and selling it
again too.
Robert
"Fred the Red Shirt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (Mike Reed) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > "2manytoyz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > > If the parent company owned the
> > > designs, Emerson wouldn't be able to use the same fence for another
> > > customer.
> >
> > Well you also have to take into account the fact that Ryobi will sell
> > existing designs cheaper than new designs to Home Depot because of
> > development costs. If the old design is more expensive through Ryobi,
> > you can bet HD will stay away from it regardless of quality, since all
> > they care about are profit margins.
> >
>
> It is clear that over the years the Sears product line has been clones
> or minor mods of the manufacturer's pre-existing designs. The Ridge
> Tool Company has only recently come out with this line of power tools
> so we do not have an established pattern.
>
> As far as I know Rigid Hand Tools remain good quality today so it seems
> odd that the company would put it's name on something as shoddy as the
> lathe. But they did. So, yeah, I'm not going to get my hopes up for
> any improvements in the product line.
>
> --
>
> FF
>
That's it! As mentioned before, mine still works great. The only complaint
I can muster is the Ridgid brand lettering lifted in several spots and I've
since peeled it off. My shop is 90-95 degrees most of the year (FL), and
that wussy adhesive was no match. No biggie.
Glad to see they're going to offer it again.
Persistence pays once again...
Robert
"Fred the Red Shirt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "2manytoyz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Well, Ridgid updated their website. Their brand of tools now sport some
> > orange paint. Glad to see that my jointer survived and I should be able
to
> > get blades at least in the near term. The bad news is no sign of the
> > oscillating sander. At least the drums & belt are a common size. You
might
> > send them an e-mail to see if they plan on repainting it and selling it
> > again too.
> >
>
>
> Aha!
>
> http://www.ridgid.com/MenuDriver.asp?ParentID=496
>
> The website is screwed up (relies on javascript) but the picture
> looks like the old model in the new color scheme.
>
> --
>
> FF
>
I've seen some of the hand tools and was not overly impressed. This week
end I saw the new 3650 Table Saw. For $595 you get real T slots, an
enclosed blade undeneath for dust collection and Highly polished top.The
winges are cast but not wafel although they do have three elongated
holes aligned fron to back closer to the main table., Oh yea, and a
three year warantee )-8
jw
AL wrote:
> The local HD assembled an end-of-aisle display full of Ridgid's new handheld
> powertools. Most of them were very similar to their Ryobi counterparts and
> I wasn't too impressed. But I noticed that the 6 th" ros, hammer drill, and
> jig saw were made in Germany. In fact, the jig saw looked remarkably like
> the Bosch 1589 with the quick blade release (which Bosch chose not to
> release in the US). For the price, they seemed like good values.
>
> Anyway I picked a $100 router, but they were out of stock on the PC sawzalls
> that can twist in several directions. Not too bad of a trip though.
>
>
I talked a little with a guy who's in charge of purchasing for the local HD.
His opinion is that the Ridgid portable power tools are junk. Also said that
the reason they dropped PC (and maybe some other high-end brands) was because
the profit margins weren't much compared to the Ryobi-produced ones.
GTO(John)
>I've seen some of the hand tools and was not overly impressed. This week
>end I saw the new 3650 Table Saw. For $595 you get real T slots, an
>enclosed blade undeneath for dust collection and Highly polished top.The
>winges are cast but not wafel although they do have three elongated
>holes aligned fron to back closer to the main table., Oh yea, and a
>three year warantee )-8
>
>jw
>
>AL wrote:
>> The local HD assembled an end-of-aisle display full of Ridgid's new
>handheld
>> powertools. Most of them were very similar to their Ryobi counterparts and
>> I wasn't too impressed. But I noticed that the 6 th" ros, hammer drill,
>and
>> jig saw were made in Germany. In fact, the jig saw looked remarkably like
>> the Bosch 1589 with the quick blade release (which Bosch chose not to
>> release in the US). For the price, they seemed like good values.
>>
>> Anyway I picked a $100 router, but they were out of stock on the PC
>sawzalls
>> that can twist in several directions. Not too bad of a trip though.
[email protected] (GTO69RA4) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I talked a little with a guy who's in charge of purchasing for the local HD.
> His opinion is that the Ridgid portable power tools are junk. Also said that
> the reason they dropped PC (and maybe some other high-end brands) was because
> the profit margins weren't much compared to the Ryobi-produced ones.
>
Yes, that's pretty sad.. but as long as plenty of Americans continue
to buy purely on the basis of price, the country will continue to be
flooded with crappy products that don't last long.
I figure that in about 30 years, we are going to be longing for the
1990's, when power tools were made with quality in mind ha ha.